Guest guest Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 hi Cookie, I've been on Lauricidin for about 5 months. I've talked to at Co. several times and herx can/does happen. I like all the " anti " stuff it addresses. Also an alternative to antibiotics. I'm taking both. For me, each hour/day is different with RA. Is it Lauriciden? antibiotics? etc etc.....or just this crappy disease??? Sally rheumatic anyone on Lauricidin?? I have not been on this site in about a month so I'm not sure if any more people are on Lauricidin. I started taking it it last week and I am having herx (or maybe my RA got worse). If you are on Lauricidin and especially if you have had any increase in symptoms ..please write and let me know. Thanks. Cooky RA and fibro since 1997..symptoms have returned 3/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 So, Sally what do you think the Lauricidin is doing so far? I just started last week. I also take it with Minocin. Thanks cooky Subject: Re: rheumatic anyone on Lauricidin?? hi Cookie, I've been on Lauricidin for about 5 months. I've talked to at Co. several times and herx can/does happen. I like all the " anti " stuff it addresses. Also an alternative to antibiotics. I'm taking both. For me, each hour/day is different with RA. Is it Lauriciden? antibiotics? etc etc.....or just this crappy disease??? Sally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 What s Lauricidin? M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 I just copied this off a web site on google. I'm not really into it yet. But it does not interfere with Minocin so I am cool with it. My doc suggested it. I need to read more about it. information on <http://www.aviva.ca/../shop/products.asp?itemid=2354 & catid=249> LauricidinR (monolaurin) for the Health Professional The antiviral, antibacterial, and antiprotozoal properties of lauric acid and monolaurin have been recognized for nearly three decades by only a small number of researchers: their work, however, has resulted in 50 or more research papers an numerous U.S. and foreign patents. Prof. Dr. Jon J. Kabara performed the original seminal research in this area of fat research. Kabara (1968) first patented certain fatty acids (FAs) and their derivatives (e.g., monoglycerides (MGs) can have adverse effects on various microorganisms. While nontoxic and approved as a direct food additive by the FDA, monolaurin adversely affects bacteria, yeast, fungi, and enveloped viruses. Kabara found that the properties that determine the anti-infective action of lipids are related to their structure: e.g., free fatty acids & monoglycerides. The monoglycerides are active; diglycerides and triglycerides are inactive. Of the saturated fatty acids, lauric acid has greater antiviral activity than either caprylic acid (C-8), capric acid (C-10), or myristic acid (C-14). Fatty acids and monoglycerides produce their killing/inactivating effects by several mechanisms. An early postulated mechanism was the perturbing of the plasma membrane lipid bilayer. The antiviral action attributed to monolaurin is that of fluidizing the lipids and phospholipids in the envelope of the virus, causing the disintegration of the microbial membrane. More recent studies indicate that one antimicrobial effect in bacteria is related to monolaurin's interference with signal transduction/toxin formation (Projan et al 1994). Another antimicrobial effect in viruses is due to lauric acid's interference with virus assembly and viral maturation (Hornung et al 1994). The third mode of action may be on the immune system itself (Witcher et al, 1993). Hierholzer and Kabara (1982) first reported the antiviral activity of the monoglyceride of lauric acid (monolaurin) on viruses that affect humans.. They showed virucidal effects of monolaurin on enveloped RNA and DNA viruses. This work was done at the Center for Disease Control of the U.S. Public Health Service. This study was carried out using selected virus prototypes or recognized representative strains of enveloped human viruses. All these viruses have a lipid membrane. The presence of a lipid membrane on viruses makes them especially vulnerable to lauric acid and its derivative monolaurin. These initial findings have been confirmed by many other studies. Research has shown that enveloped viruses are inactivated by added fatty acids and monoglycerides in both human and bovine milk (Isaacs et al 1991). Others (Isaacs et al 1986, 1990, 1991, 1992; Thormar et al 1987) have confirmed Kabara's original statements concerning the effectiveness of monolaurin. Some of the viruses inactivated by these lipids are the measles virus, herpes simplex virus (HSV-1 and -2), herpes family members (HIV, hepatitis C, vesicular, stomatitis virus (VSV), visna virus, and cytomegalovirus (CMV). Many of the pathogenic organisms reported to be inactivated by these antimicrobial lipids are those know to be responsible for opportunistic infections in HIV -positive individuals. For example, concurrent infection with cytomegalovirus is recognized as a serious complication for HIV positive individuals (Macallan et al 1993). Thus, it would appear imperative to investigate the practical aspects and the potential benefit of a nutritional supplement such as monolaurin (Lauricidin) for microbial infected individuals. Until now few nutritionists in mainstream nutrition community seem to have recognized the added benefit of antimicrobial lipids in the support of infected patients. These antimicrobial fatty acids and their derivatives are essentially nontoxic to man. According to the published research, lauric acid is one of the best " inactivating " fatty acids, and its monoglyceride is even more effective than the fatty acid alone (Kabara 1978, Sands et al 1978, Fletcher et al 1985, Kabara 1985). It should be emphasized that lauric acid cannot be taken orally because it is severally irritating. LauricidinR on the other hand, a derivative of lauric acid chemically bonded to glycerol to form monolaurin, can be taken orally without any problem. The lipid-coated (envelope) viruses, bacteria and other microorganisms are dependent on host lipids for their lipid constituents. The variability of fatty acids in the foods of individuals as well as the variability from de novo synthesis accounts for the variability of fatty acids in their membranes. Monolaurin does not appear to have an adverse effect on desirable gut bacteria, but rather on only potentially pathogenic microorganisms. For example, Isaacs et al (1991) reported no inactivation of the common Esherichiacoli or Salmonella enteritidis by monolaurin, but major inactivation of Hemophilus influenza, Staphylococcus epidermis and Group B gram positive streptococcus. The potentially pathogenic bacteria inactivated by monolaurin include Listeria monocytogenes, Staphylococcus aureus, Streptococcus agalactiae, Groups A, streptococci-gram-positive organisms, and some gram-negative organisms (Vibrio parahaemolyticus and Helicobacter pylori). Decreased growth of Staphylococcus aureus and decreased production of toxic shock syndrome toxin-l was shown with monolaurin (Holland et al 1994). Monolaurin was 5000 times more inhibitory against Listeria monocytogenes than ethanol (Oh & Marshall 1993). In vitro monolaurin rapidly inactivate Helicobacter pylori. Of greater significance there appears to be very little development of resistance of the organism to the bactericidal effects (Petschow et al 1996) of these natural antimicrobials. A number of fungi, yeast, and protozoa are also inactivated or killed by monolaurin. The fungi include several species of ringworm (Isaacs et al 1991). The yeast reported to be affected is Candida albicans (Isaacs et al 1991) The protozoan parasite Giardia lamblia is killed by monoglycerides from hydrolyzed human milk (Hemell et al 1986, Reiner et al 1986, Crouch et al 1991, Isaacs et al 1991). Chlamydia trachomatis is inactivated by monolaurin (Bergsson et al 1998). Hydrogels containing monocaprin/monolaurin are potent in vitro inactivators of sexually transmitted viruses such as HSV-2 and HIV-1 and bacteria such as Neisserian gonorrhea (Thormar 1999). From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On Behalf Of eson@... Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 10:23 AM rheumatic Subject: rheumatic Re: anyone on Lauricidin?? What s Lauricidin? M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 http://www.lauricidin.com/ rheumatic Re: anyone on Lauricidin?? What s Lauricidin? M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 Hi Cooky, So far..........I don't know if anything is working (except short period of time when I was on methotrexate and I could actually leave my house!) About 2 years ago I had a live blood analysis where she could see some fungas and candida. So, when I was told of Lauricidin, it made since that it could address some of these issues. I feel like I need to have live blood analysis done again to see what's going on. When done before.......my cells were not at all happy/or happy looking. I was highly recommended to take Lauricidin and had good talks with at the company....saying it could take up to a year to fight some of this stuff. The way I feel right now, I just want to go get in bed.....so that's where I'm headed. sally Re: rheumatic anyone on Lauricidin?? hi Cookie, I've been on Lauricidin for about 5 months. I've talked to at Co. several times and herx can/does happen. I like all the " anti " stuff it addresses. Also an alternative to antibiotics. I'm taking both. For me, each hour/day is different with RA. Is it Lauriciden? antibiotics? etc etc.....or just this crappy disease??? Sally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 Sally, Did your rheumy run the blood analysis and find fungus and candida? Carey On Dec 16, 2010 4:42 PM, <mannasal@...> wrote: > > Hi Cooky, > So far..........I don't know if anything is working (except short period of time when I was on methotrexate and I could actually leave my house!) About 2 years ago I had a live blood analysis where she could see some fungas and candida. So, when I was told of Lauricidin, it made since that it could address some of these issues. I feel like I need to have live blood analysis done again to see what's going on. When done before.......my cells were not at all happy/or happy looking. I was highly recommended to take Lauricidin and had good talks with at the company....saying it could take up to a year to fight some of this stuff. The way I feel right now, I just want to go get in bed.....so that's where I'm headed. sally > > > > > > > Re: rheumatic anyone on Lauricidin?? > > hi Cookie, > I've been on Lauricidin for about 5 months. I've talked to at Co. several times and herx can/does happen. I like all the " anti " stuff it addresses. Also an alternative to antibiotics. I'm taking both. For me, each hour/day is different with RA. Is it Lauriciden? antibiotics? etc etc.....or just this crappy disease??? Sally > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 No Carey, first, I haven't been back to rhemy for over 2 years. Plus, doing live blood work not done by drs. This woman brought over to my house her powerful ...gads, whats the name scientist look through these in labs???...oh, microscope....along with laptop and computer program. she took blood from my finger and put in glass to look at. computer ran the program and we could actually watch red cells (mine were all clumped together....although I did see one beautiful healthy cell!--reading showed liver very toxic and colon. She commented that whatever was attacking me, she felt it was passed on to me by my mother before birth. I've had live blood reading done years back. It is much more accurate of whats really going on than average blood work dr. draw. Maybe docs can do the same now?? I dodn't have MD either. I just feel so crappy and don't go anywere. Maybe I'm really missing the boat by not having any doctors????? Women doing this in Fairfied has done for years, and works closely with Young and ph levels. sally http://biomedx.com/microscopes/training/LBintro.html Re: rheumatic anyone on Lauricidin?? > > hi Cookie, > I've been on Lauricidin for about 5 months. I've talked to at Co. several times and herx can/does happen. I like all the " anti " stuff it addresses. Also an alternative to antibiotics. I'm taking both. For me, each hour/day is different with RA. Is it Lauriciden? antibiotics? etc etc.....or just this crappy disease??? Sally > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 also, not a lot of yeast showed up. Women thought what did, could be from me taking prednisone. sally Re: rheumatic anyone on Lauricidin?? > > hi Cookie, > I've been on Lauricidin for about 5 months. I've talked to at Co. several times and herx can/does happen. I like all the " anti " stuff it addresses. Also an alternative to antibiotics. I'm taking both. For me, each hour/day is different with RA. Is it Lauriciden? antibiotics? etc etc.....or just this crappy disease??? Sally > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 Thanks Sally. Hope you feel better. Cooky Subject: Re: rheumatic anyone on Lauricidin?? Hi Cooky, So far..........I don't know if anything is working (except short period of time when I was on methotrexate and I could actually leave my house!) About 2 years ago I had a live blood analysis where she could see some fungas and candida. So, when I was told of Lauricidin, it made since that it could address some of these issues. I feel like I need to have live blood analysis done again to see what's going on. When done before.......my cells were not at all happy/or happy looking. I was highly recommended to take Lauricidin and had good talks with at the company....saying it could take up to a year to fight some of this stuff. The way I feel right now, I just want to go get in bed.....so that's where I'm headed. sally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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