Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 I too would be interested in knowing of any decent BP meds. My BP has gone up and refuses to come down - I feel that my doc will want to put me on BP meds the next time I go in. So if I have an idea which one(s) are decent that would be extremely helpful. Thanks Christi Randall www.singingwomenoftexas.com >Is there a blood pressure med that does not bother adrenals or thyroid???< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 With a body temp over 98.6 you should not start thyroid. Thsi si showing a too high metabolic rate already. Something else is wrong. How much HC are you on? I used Dyazide for BP and for fluid retention for many years and just recently weaned off it and now my BP is staying good! As is the fluid. But it did no harm at all and I was on it for many years. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 ->---- Original Message ---- From: artisticgroomer@... I used Dyazide for BP and for fluid retention for many years and just recently weaned off it and now my BP is staying good!< , Do you know of any other BP meds that are halfway decent? I do not have fluid retention at all and this med is not for use by those who are diabetic - as I do. So, any other suggestions? Thanks for your help. Christi Randall www.singingwomenoftexas.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 I am Diabetic and nevr had any problems with it there either! You could also try Triamterene/HCTZ but I think they are pretty much the same things. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Val, Does this also mean that if our body temps average 98.6 BUT we have lots of low thyroid symptoms that we still shouldn't take thyroid? BTW- Does too high a dose of HC also raise your temp even if you are still hypo? Thanks, Re: BP With a body temp over 98.6 you should not start thyroid. Thsi si showing a too high metabolic rate already. Something else is wrong. How much HC are you on? I used Dyazide for BP and for fluid retention for many years and just recently weaned off it and now my BP is staying good! As is the fluid. But it did no harm at all and I was on it for many years. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Ok. Thanks. Question: since I do not retain water - do I need the diuretic? Christi Randall www.singingwomenoftexas.com Re: BP I am Diabetic and nevr had any problems with it there either! You could also try Triamterene/HCTZ but I think they are pretty much the same things. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 I am also allergic to Sulfa and thus cannot use either of the two you have mentioned. Just lovely...well I will keep searching. Christi Randall www.singingwomenoftexas.com Re: BP I am Diabetic and nevr had any problems with it there either! You could also try Triamterene/HCTZ but I think they are pretty much the same things. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 I do not think high cortisol causes a high temp, BUT I am not positive abotu this just going on my own stuff here as I have had high cortisol and still lwo temps. I also would not say anyone wiht a normal temp cannot be a bit hypo but I do think higher then 98.6 temps you should investigate the cause! I would at the very least ask for a CBC and look at white blod cells (elevated for infeciton) and sodium levels or potassium as I have seen weird temps cahnges wioht people with off sodium levels. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 The diuretic is what lowers BP. Usually in hypo there is SOME fluid retention even if you don;t notice it and this is corrected by the diuretic. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Then I would look for an Ace Inhibitor, but make certain it is not also a Beta Blockers as those should be avouided in hypothyroid people. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Sounds reasonable. But I cannot use the diaretic BP meds since I am allergic to sulpha drugs. I am looking for another. What is really weird to me is 1. HBP does not run in my family (either side) 2. the only other time I had HBP was prior to being diagnosed as diabetic, for a bout a year prior to that diagnosis my doc put me on BP meds (ended up on 3 and it just kept going higher and higher) and I kept telling him that SOMETHING was causing it - I do not have problems with my BP. Well, lo and behold -it was the diabetes, because as soon as I got my sugars under tight control the BP went down and the BP meds went by the wayside. So I know that again this time it is being caused by something not right with my body and I am leaning towards the adrenals being shot. So I am really just trying to maybe find a BP med to help as my numbers are not that high, but since both my parents died of heart attacks at young ages (47 and 52) I need to get it down and keep it down while I work on getting the adrenals fixed. I really feel that once that happens my BP will come down again and stay down. But I don't want to have a heart attack before I can get them healed. Thanks for all your help and patience with my questions. Christi Randall www.singingwomenoftexas.com Re: BP The diuretic is what lowers BP. Usually in hypo there is SOME fluid retention even if you don;t notice it and this is corrected by the diuretic. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 >Then I would look for an Ace Inhibitor, but make certain it is not also a Beta Blockers as those should be avouided in hypothyroid people.< -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV Great that is what I needed to know. Now I have been doing some research and on the ACE Inhibitors I see where you are not supposed to take potassium and I do take a potassium pill as my potassium is low. What would be your suggestions to deal with this? Thanks for your help and your knowledge. Christi Randall www.singingwomenoftexas.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Usually unless oyu are in beginning stages of AF the Cortisol and thus BP is low. but hypothyroid causes high BP too so it could be either. Have you done the adrenal saliva testing to see where your adrenal function is? If it is early stges with high cortils it can feel the same as low but you will have more tendency to high BP and high glucose. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Have not been able to get the money to do the testing. But my BS is well under control and I have been hypoT for over 16 years with treatment of syntroid for 11 years and have been trying to use armour since Oct 06. I have battled depression/sever anxiety/feeling of doom for at least 17 or more years. I have gone through periods where I had the energy to just go, go ,go, but for the last 4 years it has been all downhill. I am only 42 and there is no way I should be feeling the way I do. I cannot even use 1/4 grain of armour as it causes heart palps/pulse to jump from normal of about 78-80 to over 100 and the BP to go way up. So I am leaning towards the adrenals being shot and I am on the downhill slide real quick. I also cannot do any type of excercise as it just wears me out to the point of not being able to do ANYTHING for several days. I am in school 3/4 to full time and I have to pretty much conserve all my energy to be able to focus and complete my classes. Luckily I am taking online classes so and I can work when it is better for me and I do not have to go sit in a class (no way could I do that right now and be able to learn anything). Anyway - thanks Christi Randall www.singingwomenoftexas.com Re: BP Usually unless oyu are in beginning stages of AF the Cortisol and thus BP is low. but hypothyroid causes high BP too so it could be either. Have you done the adrenal saliva testing to see where your adrenal function is? If it is early stges with high cortils it can feel the same as low but you will have more tendency to high BP and high glucose. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Christi, My BP went very high when I took too much T3. It stayed that way until I finally did a saliva test & started on HC. When I reached 25mg of HC my BP dropped back to normal, 120/70. For me untreated adrenals caused my high BP from Hypo. Gale > > Sounds reasonable. But I cannot use the diaretic BP meds since I am allergic to sulpha drugs. I am looking for another. What is really weird to me is 1. HBP does not run in my family (either side) 2. the only other time I had HBP was prior to being diagnosed as diabetic, for a bout a year prior to that diagnosis my doc put me on BP meds (ended up on 3 and it just kept going higher and higher) and I kept telling him that SOMETHING was causing it - I do not have problems with my BP. Well, lo and behold -it was the diabetes, because as soon as I got my sugars under tight control the BP went down and the BP meds went by the wayside. So I know that again this time it is being caused by something not right with my body and I am leaning towards the adrenals being shot. So I am really just trying to maybe find a BP med to help as my numbers are not that high, but since both my parents died of heart attacks at young ages (47 and 52) I need to get it down > and keep it down while I work on getting the adrenals fixed. I really feel that once that happens my BP will come down again and stay down. But I don't want to have a heart attack before I can get them healed. > Thanks for all your help and patience with my questions. > Christi Randall > www.singingwomenoftexas.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Gale, That is what I am thinking is going on here for myself as well. I am trying to come up with the money for the salivia testing, but it is hard (I know, many,many others know this all too well). I am actually trying to decide if there are any of my supplements that I can forgo purchasing for a month or so to get the money together (I only have about $15 a month left over after all bills are paid). That is why it is so hard for me to get the money. Christi Randall www.singingwomenoftexas.com Re: BP Christi, My BP went very high when I took too much T3. It stayed that way until I finally did a saliva test & started on HC. When I reached 25mg of HC my BP dropped back to normal, 120/70. For me untreated adrenals caused my high BP from Hypo. Gale > > Sounds reasonable. But I cannot use the diaretic BP meds since I am allergic to sulpha drugs. I am looking for another. What is really weird to me is 1. HBP does not run in my family (either side) 2. the only other time I had HBP was prior to being diagnosed as diabetic, for a bout a year prior to that diagnosis my doc put me on BP meds (ended up on 3 and it just kept going higher and higher) and I kept telling him that SOMETHING was causing it - I do not have problems with my BP. Well, lo and behold -it was the diabetes, because as soon as I got my sugars under tight control the BP went down and the BP meds went by the wayside. So I know that again this time it is being caused by something not right with my body and I am leaning towards the adrenals being shot. So I am really just trying to maybe find a BP med to help as my numbers are not that high, but since both my parents died of heart attacks at young ages (47 and 52) I need to get it down > and keep it down while I work on getting the adrenals fixed. I really feel that once that happens my BP will come down again and stay down. But I don't want to have a heart attack before I can get them healed. > Thanks for all your help and patience with my questions. > Christi Randall > www.singingwomenoftexas.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Thanks for the info, sorry it took long time to answer as had to go do some shopping. I am on 10-7.5-5-5. You upped me on Jan 3 from 25mg to 27.5mg after my blood work and tellilng you about my cold and my stress dosing. My rT3 was high you said from blood work a month ago, was waiting for cytomel which takes about 3 weeks to get here. Should be here soon,l but I got a perscrilption from my doc the 3rd for the cytomel, am waiting to start taking it, but waiting for my cold to get better and my temps to straighten out. Here they are again for the past few days. I also lhave been taking my armour even tho the rT3 as you said till I can start tapering it off. Jan 1...98.4 starting of cold Jan 2...98.7....stressed dose today-cold Jan 3...99.0 Jan 4...98.4...upped HC 2.5mg Jan 5...98.8...stress dosed today-cold Jan 6...98.8 Jan 7...I have not finished my averaging today, but what I have done is 98.6 and 98.4, still have anothere to go yet. It is nice to know about the ace inhibitor as that is what my doc thought was causing the problem not the beta blocker, because the metoprolol was a beta blocker. My systolic has gone up over 20 points since quitting lisinopril and diastolic the same, can the hypo cause it to go up also??? Can't wait to start T3.... > With a body temp over 98.6 you should not start thyroid. Thsi si showing > a too high metabolic rate already. Something else is wrong. How much HC > are you on? I used Dyazide for BP and for fluid retention for many years > and just recently weaned off it and now my BP is staying good! As is the > fluid. But it did no harm at all and I was on it for many years. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Hypo WILL cause high BP. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 BTW I also think you may be gettign thyroid dumps from the stres dosing. That could explain your leevated temps . Or if you are real sick it could be a fever. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 I wasn't real real sick, runny nose was not colored. Had scratchy throat and runny nose, just did not feel too good. Then could it have been the stress dosing that might have caused a thyroid dump? I didn't have palps or shakiness, just weak and tired....and BP up...WHAT SHOULD I DO VAL???? I just took my last temp, the average is 98.5 for today....much better huh? > BTW I also think you may be gettign thyroid dumps from the stres dosing. > That could explain your leevated temps . Or if you are real sick it > could be a fever. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 >>Hmmm. This is interesting. One of the ways I am minding my HC doses as I stabilize is to take my BP. I was under the impression that low BP was a low cortisol indicator. So if my BP goes a bit high it might also mean low cortisol? Or low aldosterone?<< Low BP is NOT always an indicator. If you are having alot of adnrelain in your system you can have quite high BP an still be low in cortisl The sitting to standing BP is a pretty good indocator however. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 My main concern is my BP at the moment it was 183/64 today again. Are you certain this is accurate? I am asking as I would NOT take BP meds for this. Your Diastolic is LOW. Lowering that further could cause you problems. I thin I would recheck BP wiht a stor BP machine or your doctor's . No I would not stay at double the HC. My guess is it was a fever. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 I noticed something strange.. I am up than get tired. I measure my BP just before I go resting. Than i lay down and rest. after resting i get another BP measurement and i see that it gets lower. example.. it is 102 when i am up and goes down to 90 after resting. This must be what you are mebtioning about. Nil Re: Re: BP Low BP is NOT always an indicator. If you are having alot of adnrelain in your system you can have quite high BP an still be low in cortisl The sitting to standing BP is a pretty good indocator however. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Resting is relaxing. ANYTHING that excites or stresses you raises BO in a heartbeat. Thsi si why hoime BP testing is SO much more acurate than in a docs or lab. Whta I am talking abotu is not after resting but just sit down and test BP then stand up and immediately take it again. If your cortisllevels are good it will rise when you stand at least 10 points on the Systolic. Idf cortiosls low it will fall. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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