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Suzanne,

Unfortunately, we - meaning people with rheumatic illnesses - are put in

the position to choose our poison (so to speak)

Here are a couple of questions for you to explore,

What would be the consequences of not treating the rheumatic illness?

What meds would you use instead to deal with your rheumatic illness and

what are the side effects of those?

Then choose what seem like the most effective and least toxic drugs.

I do agree that you need to deal with candida. I hope that people on

this list with experience of taking anti-fungal drugs with AP will respond

Take care,

Ute

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Yes Ute, we are forced to chose our poison.

I sure hope people with candida related issues will respond to my post too.

Thanks for sorting out my thinking.

Have a great day.

Suzanne

>

> Suzanne,

> Unfortunately, we - meaning people with rheumatic illnesses - are put in

> the position to choose our poison (so to speak)

>

> Here are a couple of questions for you to explore,

>

> What would be the consequences of not treating the rheumatic illness?

>

> What meds would you use instead to deal with your rheumatic illness and

> what are the side effects of those?

>

> Then choose what seem like the most effective and least toxic drugs.

>

>

> I do agree that you need to deal with candida. I hope that people on

> this list with experience of taking anti-fungal drugs with AP will respond

>

> Take care,

> Ute

>

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Hello Suzanne,

I don't have candida (???), but about 2 yrs ago did have someone come to my

house and do " live blood " testing. It really showed what a clumped mess of

cells I have. She saw some fungas (thought could be from the prednisone). I've

been taking Lauriciden for 5 months now. It's anti viral, fungas, parasite,

bacteria, etc (and an alternative to antibiotics) It's been mentioned on this

group. I'm staying with the antibiotics. Me also " been feelin so bad for so

long...don't know what to do " I eat a 80% organic, vegtarian, raw food diet.

No wheat, dairy, sugar, caffeen. It's pretty easy for me since I'm home, but

once in awhile a friend will bring over a " treat " ....but my body is always happy

to get back to my " real " food.

Wishing you a good day to day Suzanne, Sally

rheumatic concerned about taking minocin

Hello everyone,

I am experiencing some indecisiveness over here.

I have had a prescription for Minocin for about 2 weeks but I haven't started it

yet.

I am putting it off because I am trying to get a candida infection under control

before I start using Minocin. I think this is a smart approach because I know

the Minocin will only cause more yeast overgrowth.

But there is a part of me that is concerned about taking the Minocin even though

I had success with it before. When I took it back in 2001 I didn't know much

about anything; now I am very well-informed about health and about the side

effects that antibiotics have on the immune system. I spent about 4 years trying

to get yeast under control after taking minocin and never completely eradicated

it.

Has anyone else on this group experienced this kind of confusion when making a

decision as to whether or not to go on the antibiotic protocol? I guess I have

been feeling awful for so long that I can't make a decision these days.

To put it another way, I am so confused. Help. I would love to hear your

thoughts and comments.

Suzanne

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Hi Sue;

I have been in the same situation.Yeast is really hard to get rid

of and I had to totally change my diet,no carbs or sugar.Took grapefruit

seed extract and actually got to like the darn stuff.Added a couple

teaspoons of turmeric and coconut oil as well as the med. Diflucan.It

took over 6 months to get control of it.I also took tons of probiotics

Lynne

> Yes Ute, we are forced to chose our poison.

>

> I sure hope people with candida related issues will respond to my post

> too.

>

> Thanks for sorting out my thinking.

>

> Have a great day.

>

> Suzanne

>

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I am suspicious that I might have the same problem. How did u go about

getting it diagnosed? What specific tests were run? What were your main

symptoms?

Thanks!

Carey

On Nov 29, 2010 10:37 PM, " Lynne and Santos " <lynneandsantos@...>

wrote:

> Hi Sue;

> I have been in the same situation.Yeast is really hard to get rid

> of and I had to totally change my diet,no carbs or sugar.Took grapefruit

> seed extract and actually got to like the darn stuff.Added a couple

> teaspoons of turmeric and coconut oil as well as the med. Diflucan.It

> took over 6 months to get control of it.I also took tons of probiotics

> Lynne

>

>

>> Yes Ute, we are forced to chose our poison.

>>

>> I sure hope people with candida related issues will respond to my post

>> too.

>>

>> Thanks for sorting out my thinking.

>>

>> Have a great day.

>>

>> Suzanne

>>

>

>

>

>

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Carey,

My doctor ran a mycoplasma pneumonia test and a specific candida test. That's

how I found out for sure.

My symptoms include muscle weakness and wasting, rashes, losing hair,

depression, digestive upset, hyperpigmentation on the face, joint pain, etc.

I hope this helps and I hope you get some answers soon.

SUzanne

> > Hi Sue;

> > I have been in the same situation.Yeast is really hard to get rid

> > of and I had to totally change my diet,no carbs or sugar.Took grapefruit

> > seed extract and actually got to like the darn stuff.Added a couple

> > teaspoons of turmeric and coconut oil as well as the med. Diflucan.It

> > took over 6 months to get control of it.I also took tons of probiotics

> > Lynne

> >

> >

> >> Yes Ute, we are forced to chose our poison.

> >>

> >> I sure hope people with candida related issues will respond to my post

> >> too.

> >>

> >> Thanks for sorting out my thinking.

> >>

> >> Have a great day.

> >>

> >> Suzanne

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

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If was my experience, in fighting systemic yeast infection, that once I had all

of my mercury (amalgam) fillings removed, that the yeast infection subsided.

Those of you dealing with yeast might find the following links interesting. the

last one, a you tube video on the mercury vapor released from our fillings, my

dentist actually told me about. I love him for recognizing the dangers of dental

mercury.

I have been on minocycline about 10 weeks and have done a 10-day round of

Augmentin (in the penicillin family) and now completing a 30-day round of

Augmentin with no yeast problems (knock on wood). I do take a probiotic daily.

I hope this helps someone.

Amy in NC.

http://www.yeastconnection.com/getting_ask.html

http://www.cleansing-for-depression.com/candida-yeast.html

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> I am experiencing some indecisiveness over here.

>

> I have had a prescription for Minocin for about 2 weeks but I haven't started

it yet.

>

> I am putting it off because I am trying to get a candida infection under

control before I start using Minocin. I think this is a smart approach because

I know the Minocin will only cause more yeast overgrowth.

>

> But there is a part of me that is concerned about taking the Minocin even

though I had success with it before. When I took it back in 2001 I didn't know

much about anything; now I am very well-informed about health and about the side

effects that antibiotics have on the immune system. I spent about 4 years

trying to get yeast under control after taking minocin and never completely

eradicated it.

>

> Has anyone else on this group experienced this kind of confusion when making a

decision as to whether or not to go on the antibiotic protocol? I guess I have

been feeling awful for so long that I can't make a decision these days.

>

> To put it another way, I am so confused. Help. I would love to hear your

thoughts and comments.

>

> Suzanne

>

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Confusion should be the middle name for all of these diseases because these

diseases have so many twists and turns. Sometimes, you're damned if you do and

damned if you don't and every drug comes with its' very own side effects. Thank

goodness I didn't get any systemic yeast or fungal infections. While I am

currently in remission, at last, one of the last symptom to subside was the

gastro problems which were multiple and included continuous diarhhea and

vomiting.  This could have been caused by yeast.  Don't know!  Gatric doc

found nothing, after 4 years of multiple testing..  But just when I was about

to give up and try to find another way of dealing with it, the diarrhea suddenly

stop as did the nausea. .I guess I took enough probiotics to set the flora in my

stomach back to the acidic state it is supposed to be in and now I am

eliminating normally at last.  That went on for more than 4 years.  Yes, I

lost all the bby fat that should have

remained with the baby in the first place.  I am at my normal weight once

again.  Lost much and was anemic for a while, but in time everything wrong,

 righted itself.  I know it is difficult to think about taking antibiotic

which increases the chance of allowing the fungus to grow wild.  You could take

both the antifungal and the Minocin.  Lynne has the same problem and I thnk she

lives on Difulcan and Minocin.  She also has the complication of having celiac

disease, so the foods she eats also do damage if she is not careful.She wrote to

you.  The only other alternative is, and I don't recommend it, is to start on

the toxic drugs.  but then you are opening up another entire can of worms.  I

would start with the least toxic meds.  The antibiotic attacks the micoplasmas

which is the root cause of the disease, so I wouldn't cancel that one out. 

There are a list of foods to avoid that will help with the yeast and

inflammation.  There is

medication you can take.for it as well.  At least it won't shut down your

immune system which the toxic drugs do. The thing that scares me about taking

those toxic drugs is that when the immune system is shut off, you can die from

any infection that may be going around because you have no immune system left

to fight with. With micoplasma pneumonae, the lungs are the most vulerable and

pneumonia unchecked can be deadly.I had multiple organ damage from scleroderma,

but the lungs were the worst.  Believe it or not, my lungs are fine now.  I

have perfectly normal PFT's and just a trace of fibrosis at the bases whereas

once, my entire lungs were filled with fibrotic tissue and I was given only a

few months to live.  I get fungus still on my toenails from the pool.  Just

came from the odiatrist.  I paint this liquid on my toes every night and I

think it is starting to work.  I also take my Minocin 50 mg twice daily on

MWF.  That is my maintenance

dose to keep myself from getting reinfected all over again.  Because it can

happen.  Micoplasmas are every where and quite common.  Most people carry the

antibodies in thei blood.  My question is if it is so common, how come

Scleroderma is considered a rare disease.  That makes no sense to me.  Well,

take care~~Take the antibiotics and one day this will all be behind

you.~~~~~ It did for me!   Take care, Dolores  In remisssion for the past 18

months.  Was diagnosed in 2005 with scleroderma, MCTD and R/A.  Had been

getting sicker and sicker for several years before my diagnosis and was

traveling in a downward spiral to my final day when I heard about the A/P, went

on it and the the rest is history.  I'm still here and doing fantastic.   

..  .     . 

From: Amy <muttville@...>

Subject: rheumatic Re: concerned about taking minocin

rheumatic

Date: Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 8:33 PM

 

If was my experience, in fighting systemic yeast infection, that once I had all

of my mercury (amalgam) fillings removed, that the yeast infection subsided.

Those of you dealing with yeast might find the following links interesting. the

last one, a you tube video on the mercury vapor released from our fillings, my

dentist actually told me about. I love him for recognizing the dangers of dental

mercury.

I have been on minocycline about 10 weeks and have done a 10-day round of

Augmentin (in the penicillin family) and now completing a 30-day round of

Augmentin with no yeast problems (knock on wood). I do take a probiotic daily.

I hope this helps someone.

Amy in NC.

http://www.yeastconnection.com/getting_ask.html

http://www.cleansing-for-depression.com/candida-yeast.html

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> I am experiencing some indecisiveness over here.

>

> I have had a prescription for Minocin for about 2 weeks but I haven't started

it yet.

>

> I am putting it off because I am trying to get a candida infection under

control before I start using Minocin. I think this is a smart approach because I

know the Minocin will only cause more yeast overgrowth.

>

> But there is a part of me that is concerned about taking the Minocin even

though I had success with it before. When I took it back in 2001 I didn't know

much about anything; now I am very well-informed about health and about the side

effects that antibiotics have on the immune system. I spent about 4 years trying

to get yeast under control after taking minocin and never completely eradicated

it.

>

> Has anyone else on this group experienced this kind of confusion when making a

decision as to whether or not to go on the antibiotic protocol? I guess I have

been feeling awful for so long that I can't make a decision these days.

>

> To put it another way, I am so confused. Help. I would love to hear your

thoughts and comments.

>

> Suzanne

>

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Mike,

Congrats on your health! That is great and gives the rest of us hope. With your

success story of healing from taking antibiotics, I hope you will participate in

the internet arthritis registry. It covers all rheumatic illnesses. It is our

chance to let the medical community know that antibiotics are a cure! I

encourage you and everyone with RA, ReA, Scleroderma, lupus, fibro, cfids, etc.

to sign up. It is an online questionnaire (or they can mail you a printed

version). an initial one, then twice a year they ask you to update your

condition. Please look into it.

http://www.arthritis.org/arthritis-internet-registry.php

Thanks. Amy in NC

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I too had my mercury fillings replaced about 15 yrs ago and preventative.

However, I still have a root canal. This " Body Tune Up " sure gets expensive!

sally

rheumatic Re: concerned about taking minocin

If was my experience, in fighting systemic yeast infection, that once I had all

of my mercury (amalgam) fillings removed, that the yeast infection subsided.

Those of you dealing with yeast might find the following links interesting. the

last one, a you tube video on the mercury vapor released from our fillings, my

dentist actually told me about. I love him for recognizing the dangers of dental

mercury.

I have been on minocycline about 10 weeks and have done a 10-day round of

Augmentin (in the penicillin family) and now completing a 30-day round of

Augmentin with no yeast problems (knock on wood). I do take a probiotic daily.

I hope this helps someone.

Amy in NC.

http://www.yeastconnection.com/getting_ask.html

http://www.cleansing-for-depression.com/candida-yeast.html

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> I am experiencing some indecisiveness over here.

>

> I have had a prescription for Minocin for about 2 weeks but I haven't started

it yet.

>

> I am putting it off because I am trying to get a candida infection under

control before I start using Minocin. I think this is a smart approach because I

know the Minocin will only cause more yeast overgrowth.

>

> But there is a part of me that is concerned about taking the Minocin even

though I had success with it before. When I took it back in 2001 I didn't know

much about anything; now I am very well-informed about health and about the side

effects that antibiotics have on the immune system. I spent about 4 years trying

to get yeast under control after taking minocin and never completely eradicated

it.

>

> Has anyone else on this group experienced this kind of confusion when making a

decision as to whether or not to go on the antibiotic protocol? I guess I have

been feeling awful for so long that I can't make a decision these days.

>

> To put it another way, I am so confused. Help. I would love to hear your

thoughts and comments.

>

> Suzanne

>

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Thanks everyone for your comments. I guess I just need to work through the

yeast issues before I start taking the minocin. Got to get 1 rectified before I

deal with another.

I appreciate each and everyone of you taking time to repond.

Suzanne

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