Guest guest Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 Be very careful wiht the Armoru on that LOW a dose of HC. Most women end up on 30-35mg a day and men need more! If you can tolerate the Armoru you may be able to get by it will not likely start when you get higher it will start bad sympotms right away! -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 sorry but recap a bit then some more info... while back started 1/4 grain of Armour and felt good for 4 days then went downhill fast.. was only on nutritional support for Adrenals and really felt they were shot..so started on HC per STTM and had massive Thyroid dump 1st day. Think I then should have ramped up faster but continued to go slow. Felt bad/weak for few days then had full-fledged panic attack that had me call 911 and spent Christmas Eve in ER. Continued to have periods of great anxiety and ramped up to 20mgs HC. Was on that dose and no Armour for a week. This past Monday began 1/4 of Armour again and yesterday and today have been on 25mg HC. Today was the best I have felt in long time. Just now at 2:10 AM woke up feeling a panic attack was coming on again. Downed 5mg HC and subsiding enought for me to come on here. QUESTIONS.... 1. Is it possible that even on 25mg HC my Adrenals still cant handle 1/4 grain of Armour? 2. OR is it possible that its the Armour itself I cant handle - meaning I should be one of the ones on T4 (Synthroid ) or T4 + T3 (Cytomel)? Could this be a reaction to Armour? Everyone talks about Armour being the Holy Grail for all.. but I wonder about this in my case. thank you. > > >>Question... if I feel good on this dose.. how long to I hold before > attempting to try 1/4 grain of Armour.<< > > The very best way ti tell if you are oin enough cortisl to be able to tolerate thyroidis to graph your temps per www.drrind.com > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 First how are you dosing that 25mg HC? That can make a HUGE differencein how your body tolerates thyroid. TYou also have nto been on the HC long ewnough ot build any cortiosl reserves which are eeded to be able to tolerate thyroid. PATIENCE! I knwo you guys have trouble wiht that, btu in the long run it willsave you! LOL Also 25mg is not a high dose for a man. men need more cortisl than women, and you may just need more. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 I am dosing... 10mg upon waking - takign along w/ 1/4 grain of Armour 5mg in 4 hours 5mg in 4 hours 2.5mg in 4 hours 2.5mg at bedtime I took 5mg lats night when panic attack was coming on so thst would be 30 for yeserday. any luck w/ Medrol? Florinef? > > First how are you dosing that 25mg HC? That can make a HUGE differencein > how your body tolerates thyroid. TYou also have nto been on the HC long > ewnough ot build any cortiosl reserves which are eeded to be able to > tolerate thyroid. PATIENCE! I knwo you guys have trouble wiht that, btu > in the long run it willsave you! LOL Also 25mg is not a high dose for a > man. men need more cortisl than women, and you may just need more. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 this is second reply to ur note, so please see previous as well.... are u saying u dont think I should be on Armour yet.. give it another week? 2 weeks of just HC? > > First how are you dosing that 25mg HC? That can make a HUGE differencein > how your body tolerates thyroid. TYou also have nto been on the HC long > ewnough ot build any cortiosl reserves which are eeded to be able to > tolerate thyroid. PATIENCE! I knwo you guys have trouble wiht that, btu > in the long run it willsave you! LOL Also 25mg is not a high dose for a > man. men need more cortisl than women, and you may just need more. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 >>10mg upon waking - takign along w/ 1/4 grain of Armour 5mg in 4 hours 5mg in 4 hours 2.5mg in 4 hours 2.5mg at bedtime I took 5mg lats night when panic attack was coming on so thst would be 30 for yeserday.<< OK having a panic attack in the night is a sure sign your dose is too low. I would try this dosing 10MG waking 7.5mg 4 hours 5mg 4 hours 2.5mg 4 hours 5mg Bedtime. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 I think it is fine to try low doses of Amour butif these reactions continue you may have to wait a bit longer till your adrneals are more stable. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 dont feel comfortable goign up to 30mg HC without dr knowing. She has been good to me and I dont wanan go behind her back. OS maybe I'll just stop the Armour until Monday and then giver her a call. Amazing. my 8AM cortisol test was 13.. not awful.. but who knows anythign can cause a quick spike. this really sucks. Wonder fo I just need to be on 25mg HC for longer to gte Adrenal stronger. My pupils are def better on 25mg. so maybe just need more time. What do you know about Medrol? > > I think it is fine to try low doses of Amour butif these reactions > continue you may have to wait a bit longer till your adrneals are more > stable. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 What I know of Medrol is it is miserable to adjust the dose as you have no rythm wiht it. Unless oyu had pituitary issues I don;t really recommend it. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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