Re: ASTMA

[Guest guest]

Sonja-

>But really, is there no cheaper alternative that would be just as good?

I really don't know -- but I think the alternatives may well be few and far

between. I used to use Sel de Mer, an actual sea salt (though I'm not

sure how refined it was) so it's striking to me that there was such a

difference going not from your average industrial waste table salt to

Celtic sea salt but from one sea salt to another. Now, that said there are

a handful of other " dirty " " real " salts out there -- pink salts from the

earth and grey salts from the sea and maybe some others, and maybe some of

them are just as good. The price of the Celtic certainly gives me

pause! And I'd imagine it's not a renewable resource, either. But at this

point I'm not willing to spend a lot more money experimenting -- the Celtic

works for me. However, there are a few other salts that also get the

" Best " recommendation in the WAP shopping guide.

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[Guest guest]

Was I being too obvious? ;-)

At 10:00 PM 2/26/2002 -0600, you wrote:

>Dear Mark

>You wrote:

>

> " I just chew on those fat pieces

>when I'm eating other foods. These are nice, suitable alternatives when

>raw dairy is not available.

>

>So this is where the expression " chewing the fat " came from?!!

>I've always wondered

>Sonja ; )

[Guest guest]

Nothing special. I wasn't really trying to compare them - they are both raw

fats and we need those raw fats in our diet for optimal health. And I was

addressing the poster who was lamenting his impending loss of dairy. When

dairy isn't available (and that used to happen more regularly to me) I

don't stop eating fats - I just seek out other fats that are available. I

generally try to get a variety of fats into my diet.

Regards,

-=mark=-

At 08:35 AM 2/27/2002 -0600, you wrote:

> " I just chew on those fat pieces when I'm eating other foods. These are

>nice, suitable alternatives when

>raw dairy is not available. "

>

>Dear Mark:

>

> I was just wondering: in what way are those fat pieces suitable

> alternatives to raw dairy?

>thanks

>Sonja

[Guest guest]

Sonja-

>...could you tell me where is this shopping guide?

It's not online, AFAIK; it was mailed to WAP Foundation members. Perhaps

if you join now you could still get a copy? Dunno.

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[Guest guest]

Dr. Marasco,

Thanks for responding to my post on asthma.

< Even with people who have smoked for years I have never seen an

asthma case that did not involve a significant digestion and immune

system problem. >

Apparently, young children who are passive smokers are at high risk to

developing respiratory

disease, even if they do not smoke themselves. My asthma first broke out after

potent exposure to

animals (sleeping in same room with a dog and her litter), having a cat in our

appartment, and

living in old housing with a moldy smell rising from the cellar--three separate

events from age 17 -

20. Since then--every summer, an allergy to grass and mold.

I can easily believe that about the digestive system and immune

problems--including the immune

system of the lung itself. I've tried inhaling steam containing tree tea oil to

kill off any fungal

growth in the lungs that might be complicating the asthma. Allergy to molds

often indicates fungal

overgrowth in the body. That was somewhat helpful but hasn't brought a

break-through. I did

pranayama last fall (yogic breathing exercises) and they helped with mild

symptoms, but they aren't

sufficient in summer when the asthma is exacerbated by allergies. I know this

because I am a

flautist and practised pranayama in conjunction with the flute for many years,

without seeing my

asthma improved.

Apparently, some people have good success by inhaling a mist of colloidal

silver--both to kill off

fungus and to promote healthy tissue growth. I am thinking of trying that soon.

< Address those two and there should be very little

problem if any. I will however give the caveat here that it is not

always that simple, however even when its more complicated I have yet

to see a case of asthma that did not involve a significant digestive

issue which when left long enough especially with medication exposure

ultimately compromises the immune function also. Feel free to post

back to this list or email me anytime if you have any questions or

need clarification. >

I would like to hear more. If you think this is not the right forum for it,

feel free to email me

privately.

Thanks so much,

son

[Guest guest]

Asthma?

An acupuncturist friend of mine mentioned during a break from a

Japanese moxibustion class we were both taking that the way

Koreans do moxibustion makes very obvious permanent scars

(unlike the tiny moxas of the method we were learning in class)

but they claim to have a very high cure rate for asthma when

burnt at Ren (conception vessel) 17.

He comment was that he didn't think he could do it to a client

unless he'd tried it out on himself first (because it left such a

scar)

and since he didn't have asthma there was small chance of that.

He also commented that if he did have asthma, the scar would be

well worth it for a life long cure.

People can die of asthma.

Of course, whether to use moxa at Ren 17 or not would be determined

by assessment to see if the asthma was cold pathology or not. (And by

" cold " I do not mean as Westerners say " catch a cold " . By " cold "

pathology I'm talking about the energetic quality of the adventure.)

Some times asthma is a heat energy disorder.

Moxibustion is usually avoided in conditions of heat except with the

Japanese. Some Japanese practitioners use moxa for everything, but

then their moxibustion is quite different from the Korean's.

In choosing herbs for the condition one would have to check for the

energetic temperature as well. I suppose perhaps one could

extrapolate this over to Western mind thought as the difference

between sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems.

I'd use pulse and tongue assessment for this.

Without assessment of what is really going on, treating the disorder

purely by its symptoms is like taking a shot in the dark.

Penel

[Guest guest]

<snip>

> can you tell us more? how old is it?thanx;Rica

Traditional Chinese Medicine goes back a couple thousand years in

written form. Before that it probably was verbal. There are 4

branches; acupuncture, moxibustion, herbalism and bodywork.

Acupuncture and moxibustion tend to be more Confucian in theory and

the herbalism and bodywork branches more Taoist.

What is taught in the People's Republic of China now is devoid of the

religious underpinnings.

A good basic book on the subject is " The Web That Has No Weaver " by

Ted Kaptchuk which is probaly the very first book most TCM schools

have their first year masters degree students read.

[Guest guest]

hi everyone,

thanks for all the information, i will print it out for him. one more

if i may. what foods is he going to look at? what food should be

avoided and what should he be eating. i found out that he is already

taking teas for his lungs. any suggestions would be great, thanks

again, rik

[Guest guest]

Rik wrote:

>

> hi everyone,

> thanks for all the information, i will print it out for him. one more

> if i may. what foods is he going to look at? what food should be

> avoided and what should he be eating. i found out that he is already

> taking teas for his lungs. any suggestions would be great, thanks

> again, rik

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Hi Rik,

He should only be looking at non-mucus forming foods. IE....fresh fruits

and vegetables, sprouted grains, seeds and nuts. All raw, all fresh and

preferrably organic.

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