Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 " sossityb " wrote: > I started Armour last week. Things seem fine so far except my > stomach has been very upset. Sorry for the graphic details but...I have a " movement " at least twice a day now which isn't bad but I often have loose stool and a grumbly tummy. Just wondering if other have experienced this and if it is b/c of the Armour. How much Armour did you take in one dose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 My doc prescribed 1 grain which is what I've been taking. I was just getting ready to search the boards on dosing. I haven't read much on it since I just started the Armour but it looks like people increase their own doses. I know it's a little off the subject but is that correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Yes, I did experience this and it was from the Armour. When I got on adequate adrenal support, the diarrhea stopped and has not come back. >>>Hi All! I haven't been here in a while as not much has happened lately except I started Armour last week. Things seem fine so far except my stomach has been very upset. Sorry for the graphic details but...I have a " movement " at least twice a day now which isn't bad but I often have loose stool and a grumbly tummy. Just wondering if other have experienced this and if it is b/c of the Armour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 " sossityb " wrote: > My doc prescribed 1 grain which is what I've been taking. I was just > getting ready to search the boards on dosing. I haven't read much on it > since I just started the Armour but it looks like people increase their > own doses. I know it's a little off the subject but is that correct? Standard recommendation for someone starting Armour is to start with 1/4 grain, and then increase by 1/4 grain every week till you get to 2 grains, or temps get closer to 98.6. Some people hit 98.6 at 2 grains, others are still far away. Once you get closer, and you'll know cause your other hypo symptoms like fatigue, brain-fog, cold hands/feet etc go away, then you only raise your dose every 4 weeks, because it takes time for the T4 to build up, and once it does, it also converts to T3 and adds to your dose. Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 What is the reasoning for starting out so low? Is it b/c of the stomach issue or is this just a problem I am having from something else? If I can handle the stomach upset, would it be ok to stick with the 1 grain? Sorry for all of the questions but suprise, suprise, the doc told me NOTHING! I have seen the posts about temps but frankly, I'm not sure I have it in me to deal with all of that. Is it vital? If so, where should I look for some background and guidance on this approach? Thanks so much for your help everyone! Grr...my tummy is super icky right now!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Thanks for your reply! So what are you doing for your adrenal support? I read posts about holding off on starting Armour until the adrenals were in check but I guess I jumped the gun. However, other than the icky tummy, I feel pretty good. I get my saliva results tomorrow and hopefully we'll start on the path to healthy adrenals. Whatever that may be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Here is a site to help you in your temp graphing. Yes, it's vital if you want to feel better. http://www.drrind.com/tempgraph.asp Then read this one, devour it. www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/adrenal-info Re: Armour causing stomach upset? What is the reasoning for starting out so low? Is it b/c of the stomach issue or is this just a problem I am having from something else? If I can handle the stomach upset, would it be ok to stick with the 1 grain? Sorry for all of the questions but suprise, suprise, the doc told me NOTHING! I have seen the posts about temps but frankly, I'm not sure I have it in me to deal with all of that. Is it vital? If so, where should I look for some background and guidance on this approach? Thanks so much for your help everyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 " sossityb " wrote: > What is the reasoning for starting out so low? People with tender adrenals cannot HANDLE large starting doses of Armour. It gives some people major palpitations, anxiety, and they just don't feel good. If your adrenals are fine, and they might be because you're still exercising, while most here would pass out, then sure, 1 grain might not be a problem. Guess you'll know tomorrow when you get your saliva results how your adrenals really are. G'nite, Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Are you taking it under your tongue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Yeah, I may have jumped to conclusions about my adrenals b/c I was feeling so cruddy for so long. What has made the biggest change for me is my eating. I realized I simply wasn't eating enough and when I did eat, I wasn't eating the right things. So I was ending up w/ migraines waaaaay too frequently and I had absoultely no energy. While I have had hypo T for a few years, the eating may have been a big part of my problem. We shall see! Still wondering though, is the upset tummy a common side effect of the Armour? Would it help to cut my dose some and then ease back up to my current dose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 No, I'm not. I started another thread about that b/c I didn't know I was supposed to. Should I be?? And if so, would that somehow make a difference w/ my stomach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Re: Armour causing stomach upset? " sossityb " wrote: > My doc prescribed 1 grain which is what I've been taking. I was just > getting ready to search the boards on dosing. I haven't read much on it > since I just started the Armour but it looks like people increase their > own doses. I know it's a little off the subject but is that correct? Standard recommendation for someone starting Armour is to start with 1/4 grain, and then increase by 1/4 grain every week till you get to 2 grains, or temps get closer to 98.6. Some people hit 98.6 at 2 grains, others are still far away. Once you get closer, and you'll know cause your other hypo symptoms like fatigue, brain-fog, cold hands/feet etc go away, then you only raise your dose every 4 weeks, because it takes time for the T4 to build up, and once it does, it also converts to T3 and adds to your dose. Barb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.6/1229 - Release Date: 1/17/2008 11:12 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Barb, I read with interest your recommendations for starting Armour. I'm close to ramping up again - but not on Armour, as I've had conversion problemsall my life resulting in lots of RT3. Do you have good clear recommendations for T3? I completely understood the instructions on Armour, so thought maybe you had experience with T3. If not, please just disregard this post. Many thank's Pat Re: Armour causing stomach upset? " sossityb " wrote: > My doc prescribed 1 grain which is what I've been taking. I was just > getting ready to search the boards on dosing. I haven't read much on it > since I just started the Armour but it looks like people increase their > own doses. I know it's a little off the subject but is that correct? Standard recommendation for someone starting Armour is to start with 1/4 grain, and then increase by 1/4 grain every week till you get to 2 grains, or temps get closer to 98.6. Some people hit 98.6 at 2 grains, others are still far away. Once you get closer, and you'll know cause your other hypo symptoms like fatigue, brain-fog, cold hands/feet etc go away, then you only raise your dose every 4 weeks, because it takes time for the T4 to build up, and once it does, it also converts to T3 and adds to your dose. Barb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.6/1229 - Release Date: 1/17/2008 11:12 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 " pat " wrote: >Do you have good clear recommendations for T3? Sorry, no personal experience with T3, but common sense says that going VERY slowly and forward, is better than one step forward and two steps back. I would say to do your increases in the smallest increments you can cut, and let your body's reactions guide you in when to increase. That would be temps, symptoms, BP, etc. The program I have my DH on is 1/8 grain Armour increases about every 4 days instead of 1/4 grain every week. Some people even react to 1/8 grain, but he seems to be handling it well, and these small increases allowed me to quickly get him up to 4x/day dosing at only 1/2 grain total/per day, with 1/8 grain at breakfast, lunch, dinner, and bedtime. Good luck. Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Thanks! I will give that a try. I've gone down to 1/2 a grain for the past two days. My stomach has done much better but it starts to get sick again in the evening--which I think is strange since I take the Armour in the a.m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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