Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Pregnenolone ois a precursor to many things. I am not really big on takign precursor hormones and only take things if I am actually low in THEM, not their precursors. Taking a precursor hormones does not guarantee you will raise the hormones you are low in, but it can mean it may convert to things you don;t need. I think the only people that should take Pregnenolone are people that are low in IT. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 My progesterone is low but I cannot tolerate taking progesterone cream...I get fatigued every time so my NP started me on pregnonolone. I've only been on it a couple days though so it's too soon to tell if it will help. Pregnenolone ois a precursor to many things. I am not really big on takign precursor hormones and only take things if I am actually low in THEM, not their precursors. Taking a precursor hormones does not guarantee you will raise the hormones you are low in, but it can mean it may convert to things you don;t need. I think the only people that should take Pregnenolone are people that are low in IT. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 How would you test your pregnonolone? Thank you Re: pregnenolone My progesterone is low but I cannot tolerate taking progesterone cream...I get fatigued every time so my NP started me on pregnonolone. I've only been on it a couple days though so it's too soon to tell if it will help. Pregnenolone ois a precursor to many things. I am not really big on takign precursor hormones and only take things if I am actually low in THEM, not their precursors. Taking a precursor hormones does not guarantee you will raise the hormones you are low in, but it can mean it may convert to things you don;t need. I think the only people that should take Pregnenolone are people that are low in IT. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.1/1219 - Release Date: 1/11/2008 10:19 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 It's a blood test. Mine showed very low, so I have been supplementing pregnenolone for a few months. From later blood tests, levels are increasing. -Sharon pat wrote: > How would you test your pregnonolone? > > Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 I have found that if I use less progesterone cream than the tube says to use then the progesterone helps. If I use the recommended amount I feel awful. Also, I only take it at night before bed and just the week before my period. It truly helps me sleep and now since using it this way for several months, my migraines have been less severe. Robin > > Pregnenolone ois a precursor to many things. I am not really big on > takign precursor hormones and only take things if I am actually low in > THEM, not their precursors. Taking a precursor hormones does not > guarantee you will raise the hormones you are low in, but it can mean > it may convert to things you don;t need. I think the only people that > should take Pregnenolone are people that are low in IT. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.1/1219 - Release Date: 1/11/2008 10:19 AM > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 When I tried pregnenolone it felt like it converted right to P. And I can't tolerate P very well either. You might try taking a very small dose of preg and working up. -AG Begin forwarded message: > > My progesterone is low but I cannot tolerate taking progesterone > cream...I get fatigued every time so my NP started me on pregnonolone. > I've only been on it a couple days though so it's too soon to tell if > it will help. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 If one is low at dhea may naturopath says that it can be taken without testing.it is mother of all steroid hormones. I am taking it and i wouldn't be abel to do withouit it. bw Nil Re: pregnenolone It's a blood test. Mine showed very low, so I have been supplementing pregnenolone for a few months. From later blood tests, levels are increasing. -Sharon pat wrote: > How would you test your pregnonolone? > > Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 I took my progesterone before bed in a very low dose (mine was prescribed) and it made me very fatigued. My NP said some people just can't tolerate it, even a drop of it. So that's why I started taking pregnonolone and so far my body is responding much better to it. > I have found that if I use less progesterone cream than the tube says > to use then the > progesterone helps. If I use the recommended amount I feel awful. > Also, I only take it at > night before bed and just the week before my period. It truly helps > me sleep and now > since using it this way for several months, my migraines have been > less severe. > > Robin > > > > > Pregnenolone ois a precursor to many things. I am not really big on > > takign precursor hormones and only take things if I am actually low > in > > THEM, not their precursors. Taking a precursor hormones does not > > guarantee you will raise the hormones you are low in, but it can > mean > > it may convert to things you don;t need. I think the only people > that > > should take Pregnenolone are people that are low in IT. > > > > -- > > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > ----------- > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.1/1219 - Release Date: > 1/11/2008 10:19 > AM > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Hi Val, Thanks for responding. I know cortisol, estrogen, testostrgen (spelling?), progestergen(spelling?) are some of the hormones. What would be some of the main hormones it might affect.. Would insulin and things like that be affected? One of my docs. said I might have adrenal fatigue and I asked for some of the things I could do to help it and he said the pregnenolone. I've looked online and found that you needed to get about 11 hours sleep a night from 10pm to 9am. suppose to eat seasalt,, I can't eat that it makes me swell up like big time. Do you have any suggestions? thanks again Bev > > Pregnenolone ois a precursor to many things. I am not really big on > takign precursor hormones and only take things if I am actually low in > THEM, not their precursors. Taking a precursor hormones does not > guarantee you will raise the hormones you are low in, but it can mean > it may convert to things you don;t need. I think the only people that > should take Pregnenolone are people that are low in IT. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Cortisol, aldosterone, estrogen, progesterone, DHEA, Pregnenolone, Testosterone, insulin, thyroid and probably more can all be invoilved in AF problems. I would start with a saliva test through www.canaryclub.org before doign anything. Get baseline labs ot knwo what is going oin. I would not take Pregnenolone or any hormone withotu knowing what I am low in forst. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Or did you mean what hormones can Pregnenolone affect? If so it is a precursor to : http://health.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/photos/vi\ ew/fe08?b=1 It is a precuursor to ALL the above hormones,and could be used ot make ANY of them. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 I'm on Soc. Sec. and have no money for thing that my insur. don't pay for. I had a ACTH Stim. test done last year. The baseline was borderline low, the second draw was low & the last draw was borderline low.. The docs. say they are ok. Yes, I haven't bought the preg. yet because I am hesitant about taking something I'm not sure about. thanks for you help Bev > > Cortisol, aldosterone, estrogen, progesterone, DHEA, Pregnenolone, > Testosterone, insulin, thyroid and probably more can all be invoilved in > AF problems. I would start with a saliva test through www.canaryclub.org > before doign anything. Get baseline labs ot knwo what is going oin. I > would not take Pregnenolone or any hormone withotu knowing what I am low > in forst. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 I yea, I meant what main hormones the preg. will affect. > > Or did you mean what hormones can Pregnenolone affect? If so it is a > precursor to : > http://health.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENAL S/photos/view/fe08?b=1 > > It is a precuursor to ALL the above hormones,and could be used ot make > ANY of them. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 pregnenolone can be used to help adrenals...but it can also raise estrogen as it did with me. I have read that it should be used periodically and not constantly. I'd have to agree with that. I would just caution watching for side effects. It made me feel better mentally, but it did return my symptoms of estrogen dominance and I had to raise my progesterone cream to try to combat those symptoms. Ultimately I stopped using it, as the benefits were not worth the side effects of breast pain, heavy periods, bad cramps...etc. It does work nicely for many people. But I was not aware that it could do this until it happened, then I looked it up...just something for those with estrogen problems to be aware of. > > How would you test your pregnonolone? > > > > Thank you > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Hi Jada, I know this post isn't for me but I'm wondering if one is going through menopause and already has low estrogen would the pregnenolone help for adrenal fatigue, IYO? thanks Bev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 >>I had a ACTH Stim. test done last year. The baseline was borderline low, the second draw was low & the last draw was borderline low.. << Your numbers should have doubled from baseline to the first draw. If they did not then it shows adren; exhaustion or failure. Not just adrenal fatigue, worse. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Bev, if you can't do any testing right now... You may want to try supplements that support adrenal function, like licorice or adrenal cortex. You can also self test adrenals using temperature monitoring and some other methods to give you an idea. While it won't tell you exactly what is low...it will tell you that you do or don't have adrenal fatigue/thyroid problems. Meanwhile..save up $141 for a saliva test. Also on SS here, and Medicare insurance will just assume let you die before they pay for something that might actually help you. It's a sad fact...but they just don't cover anything not mainstream or cheap. I save money people give me for gifts, and what ever little I can scrape up to pay for supplements and tests etc. > > > > Cortisol, aldosterone, estrogen, progesterone, DHEA, Pregnenolone, > > Testosterone, insulin, thyroid and probably more can all be > invoilved in > > AF problems. I would start with a saliva test through > www.canaryclub.org > > before doign anything. Get baseline labs ot knwo what is going > oin. I > > would not take Pregnenolone or any hormone withotu knowing what I > am low > > in forst. > > > > -- > > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane > WV > > > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 That depends on how your body handles it. I am not in menopause yet, so personally I can't vouch for it helping in that sense. I do know that many women in menopause do well on progesterone cream despite the indications that low estrogen in the reason for symptoms. It seems that even though estrogen levels are declining, their progesterone is still way lower in comparison. Adrenals are supposed to help make hormones when the ovaries slow down, but in one with adrenal fatigue, this does not happen. Which makes me wonder if that is why so many women have bad menopause problems versus years ago when they didn't. Maybe they too have low adrenal. I know my grandmother had said, she went through menopause with hardly and blink as did most women in her generation. In the case of someone with low estrogen (I would verify that by either symptoms of low estrogen or some testing) then it stands to say, they that person might do better on pregnenolone. No guarantees. All of this is rather..trial and error..we all seem to react differently. I know many who love pregnenolone and do well on it. > > Hi Jada, > I know this post isn't for me but I'm wondering if one is going > through menopause and already has low estrogen would the pregnenolone > help for adrenal fatigue, IYO? > thanks > Bev > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 I even had a second opinion from another endo that told me she thought they were ok and she wouldn't have even did a 3rd draw. So, yea, I can feel it sometmes.. I can feel it very much at the gym when I'm lifting weights one day I can do 50lbs on lifting one weight and the very next day I can't budge it, then the very next day I'm at 50 again.. it's a trip. And some days I feel like the rug has just been pulled from under me, that's the only way I can explain it.. But,,,,,, I'm on a 's group and I listen to them & I don't want to start cortef or any steriod unless I just have too cause of all of the side effects I hear them talk about since they've started steriods..and diabetes is one of the side effects... sometimes I feel like I'm bewteen a rock & a hard spot.... I want to thank you for all your help. Bev > > >>I had a ACTH Stim. test done last year. The baseline was > borderline low, the second draw was low & the last draw was > borderline low.. << > > Your numbers should have doubled from baseline to the first draw. If they did not then it shows adren; exhaustion or failure. Not just adrenal fatigue, worse. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Thanks for the info Jada, Where do I get licorice or adrenal cortex and what is adrenal cortex? I have did the temp chart for my doc. that ask me to the one that has helped me get on Armour & ect. and my temps are low even though my Ft3 is at the top or a but over and I feel so much better, not great just alot better. I can do things now when I'm not sick and I have been all of fall and now winter.. this happens every winter. Right now I'm going through menopause and I have a new high on flashes...lol.. now I'm freezing when I have hot flashes. I think it's from freezing from being hypothyoid and burning up from the hot flashes..I know it's hard to know how one can do both at the same time........it's my it's every place except my trunk that freezes and my trunck and head that burns up & sweats..it's a trip. Bev > Bev, if you can't do any testing right now... > You may want to try supplements that support adrenal function, like > licorice or adrenal cortex. You can also self test adrenals using > temperature monitoring and some other methods to give you an idea. > While it won't tell you exactly what is low...it will tell you that > you do or don't have adrenal fatigue/thyroid problems. > Meanwhile..save up $141 for a saliva test. > Also on SS here, and Medicare insurance will just assume let you die > before they pay for something that might actually help you. It's a sad > fact...but they just don't cover anything not mainstream or cheap. > I save money people give me for gifts, and what ever little I can > scrape up to pay for supplements and tests etc. > > > > > > > > Cortisol, aldosterone, estrogen, progesterone, DHEA, Pregnenolone, > > > Testosterone, insulin, thyroid and probably more can all be > > invoilved in > > > AF problems. I would start with a saliva test through > > www.canaryclub.org > > > before doign anything. Get baseline labs ot knwo what is going > > oin. I > > > would not take Pregnenolone or any hormone withotu knowing what I > > am low > > > in forst. > > > > > > -- > > > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane > > WV > > > > > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Thanks for the info and thoughts. I had forgotten about when the ovaries go the adrenals step in.. I'm getting ready to have one of each of my ovaries & tubes out on the 28th of Jan. so I might find out a little sooner.. Bev > That depends on how your body handles it. I am not in menopause yet, > so personally I can't vouch for it helping in that sense. I do know > that many women in menopause do well on progesterone cream despite the > indications that low estrogen in the reason for symptoms. It seems > that even though estrogen levels are declining, their progesterone is > still way lower in comparison. Adrenals are supposed to help make > hormones when the ovaries slow down, but in one with adrenal fatigue, > this does not happen. Which makes me wonder if that is why so many > women have bad menopause problems versus years ago when they didn't. > Maybe they too have low adrenal. I know my grandmother had said, she > went through menopause with hardly and blink as did most women in her > generation. > In the case of someone with low estrogen (I would verify that by > either symptoms of low estrogen or some testing) then it stands to > say, they that person might do better on pregnenolone. No guarantees. > All of this is rather..trial and error..we all seem to react > differently. I know many who love pregnenolone and do well on it. > > > > > > Hi Jada, > > I know this post isn't for me but I'm wondering if one is going > > through menopause and already has low estrogen would the pregnenolone > > help for adrenal fatigue, IYO? > > thanks > > Bev > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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