Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 There si definitely a problem with your low cholesterol and as MANY hormones are made from it this may well be the cause of your weak adrneal function. No raw material to make ti from. I do nto knwo how to correct low cholesterol but I have heard of ti before. And it can cause low cortisol. I hope one of these docs can help you get straightened out and live funciton would be ONE cause of low T3 for sure, but T3 is made in other parts of the bosdy as well. but supplementing T3 only I feel would cerytianly help you as well as the light therapy. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Thanks Val, I knew that you too would come to see that for me, this is more than just a hypothyroid problem. I wish somebody knew how I could raise my cholesterol. I don't know that just sitting down and eating a dozen eggs and a pound of butter a day would be the way to go, but who knows? Re: cholesterol labs There si definitely a problem with your low cholesterol and as MANY hormones are made from it this may well be the cause of your weak adrneal function. No raw material to make ti from. I do nto knwo how to correct low cholesterol but I have heard of ti before. And it can cause low cortisol. I hope one of these docs can help you get straightened out and live funciton would be ONE cause of low T3 for sure, but T3 is made in other parts of the bosdy as well. but supplementing T3 only I feel would cerytianly help you as well as the light therapy. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 I think is right about the adrenal thing. I think I have read that somewhere before. I think this will take time. The liver and cholesterol are closely related. You might want to look into doing a castor oil pack on your liver several times a week. K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 If it's any comfort, I am also hypoT, and have low cholesterol. I know you have been down the mercury / chelation path, which I am still doing. It could still be related to that. Do you take DHEA, and eat saturated fats? Do you have the liver condition Gilberts symdrome - low cholesterol seems to go hand in hand with that. Best Nicola -- In NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS , " Gikas " wrote: > > Again, I am the mystery weirdo of the Hypo bunch here. I just got new lab results from a doc's visit over one week ago. What do you guys make of these cholesterol levels? I don't think these go along with a hypoT person, but I have read extensively they go along with depression and anxiety disorder... > > Total cholesterol- 120 > LDL- 81 (one point over the lowest end of reference range) > Triglycerides 54 (a couple of points over lowest end of reference range) > HDL- 32 (this is low, but is it really when you look at the total picture? > It's the ratios that matter. > > Here's what I am thinking: > > I must have an abnormality in my liver that: > > A: Isn't producing enough cholesterol for health > B: Isn't converting T4-T3 adequately > C: is causing a T3 PLUS serotonin deficit in my brain which all started with seasonal effective disorder once October came. > > Val, I am NOT clear cut case. Hypo goes with HIGH cholesterol. I've got much more complex issues and I believe I need some timed release T3 plus an SSRI in order to come out of this. > My biggest symptoms are major depression and anxiety disorder to the point that I have become agorophobic ever since the clocks changed and there was cold and lack of light. > > Dr. Arem discusses quite a bit of this in his book. I'd fit a 's thyroid syndrome person better than a hypoT person, but according to Arem, those are all symptoms of depression as well. Which came first? Low T3 causing depression or depression and seasonal affective disorder causing low serotonin and low T3 in my brain? > > Dr. Blanchard received a letter I wrote him and called me yesterday morning. He said he's going to get me in as soon as possible even though his secretary had told me the week before that it would take about 3 months. I said to heck with that and sent him a melodramatic letter since I'm good with the melodramatics. It worked as he called me as soon as he got it. I am interested in getting timed release T3 from him (which he prescribes) because Cytomel and I aren't agreeing too well (major headache) and too wired up in the brain. Once I get the timed release T3, I'm going to see how it goes and then consider adding in some lexapro. Then, next September I'm starting light therapy with a light box as to not ever have to go through this nightmare of winter blues again. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Gikas wrote: > Total cholesterol- 120 > LDL- 81 (one point over the lowest end of reference range) > Triglycerides 54 (a couple of points over lowest end of reference range) > HDL- 32 (this is low, but is it really when you look at the total picture? > have you had a complete blood work up on liver function? sol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Nicola, What's your TOTAL cholesterol number? Do you have Gilbert's syndrome? Re: cholesterol labs If it's any comfort, I am also hypoT, and have low cholesterol. I know you have been down the mercury / chelation path, which I am still doing. It could still be related to that. Do you take DHEA, and eat saturated fats? Do you have the liver condition Gilberts symdrome - low cholesterol seems to go hand in hand with that. Best Nicola -- In NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS , " Gikas " wrote: > > Again, I am the mystery weirdo of the Hypo bunch here. I just got new lab results from a doc's visit over one week ago. What do you guys make of these cholesterol levels? I don't think these go along with a hypoT person, but I have read extensively they go along with depression and anxiety disorder... > > Total cholesterol- 120 > LDL- 81 (one point over the lowest end of reference range) > Triglycerides 54 (a couple of points over lowest end of reference range) > HDL- 32 (this is low, but is it really when you look at the total picture? > It's the ratios that matter. > > Here's what I am thinking: > > I must have an abnormality in my liver that: > > A: Isn't producing enough cholesterol for health > B: Isn't converting T4-T3 adequately > C: is causing a T3 PLUS serotonin deficit in my brain which all started with seasonal effective disorder once October came. > > Val, I am NOT clear cut case. Hypo goes with HIGH cholesterol. I've got much more complex issues and I believe I need some timed release T3 plus an SSRI in order to come out of this. > My biggest symptoms are major depression and anxiety disorder to the point that I have become agorophobic ever since the clocks changed and there was cold and lack of light. > > Dr. Arem discusses quite a bit of this in his book. I'd fit a 's thyroid syndrome person better than a hypoT person, but according to Arem, those are all symptoms of depression as well. Which came first? Low T3 causing depression or depression and seasonal affective disorder causing low serotonin and low T3 in my brain? > > Dr. Blanchard received a letter I wrote him and called me yesterday morning. He said he's going to get me in as soon as possible even though his secretary had told me the week before that it would take about 3 months. I said to heck with that and sent him a melodramatic letter since I'm good with the melodramatics. It worked as he called me as soon as he got it. I am interested in getting timed release T3 from him (which he prescribes) because Cytomel and I aren't agreeing too well (major headache) and too wired up in the brain. Once I get the timed release T3, I'm going to see how it goes and then consider adding in some lexapro. Then, next September I'm starting light therapy with a light box as to not ever have to go through this nightmare of winter blues again. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Yes I do have Gilberts syndrome. I am sure that with all the testing you have had now, it would have been spotted. It is elevated bilirubin with otherwise normal liver function tests. My last blood test was in September, and the cholesterol results are a bit complicated. I am in Europe, which may be different to the US. Total cholesterol - 143 (range 105 - 190) HDL - 53 (range 46 - 75) LDL 83 - range <115 VLDL cholesterol - 7 (range 15 - 35) seems that my cholesterol is still low in some areas - these results seem to be showing that it is recovering slightly. I eat two eggs a day, and red meat a few times a week. Best Nicola -- In NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS , " Gikas " wrote: > > Nicola, > > What's your TOTAL cholesterol number? Do you have Gilbert's syndrome? > > > Re: cholesterol labs > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Yours is much better. Even though 143 is still on the low side, you have a good HDL (good cholesterol level) whereas mine is very low at 31 and my total is 120 (much too low) but it's good to know somebody else with hypoT has low cholesterol. and no, my bilirubin is never elevated. Thanks, Re: cholesterol labs > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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