Guest guest Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Well said. Sue rheumatic List purpose Dear Group, When there is discord our ability to fulfill the purpose of this list -to help people interested in AP - is greatly diminished. How inviting is it for a new person looking for desperately needed advice to come to this list to find participants going on about unrelated subjects and being discourteous toward each other? We also risk losing our old time members. They don't post so much because many have their lives back, but they hold a wealth of experience that they share when needed. This is a valuable resource we would be poorer to be without. Take care, Ute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Dear Ute: I commend you for your words. I have been lucky to have gone into remission due to the AP and the diet. I donot post either as the site I have belonged to for almost 20 years has changed. God Bless You Janet rheumatic List purpose Dear Group, When there is discord our ability to fulfill the purpose of this list -to help people interested in AP - is greatly diminished. How inviting is it for a new person looking for desperately needed advice to come to this list to find participants going on about unrelated subjects and being discourteous toward each other? We also risk losing our old time members. They don't post so much because many have their lives back, but they hold a wealth of experience that they share when needed. This is a valuable resource we would be poorer to be without. Take care, Ute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Point taken. I apologize for my outburst this morning. I started to offer an excuse, but none is acceptable. I usually try to live by the " better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt " rule...but failed today. In fact, maybe the " get off the computer " comment hit too close to home. I'm not usually sensitive to things...unless they contain some truth. Humbly, Ute <nowyoga@...> wrote: Dear Group, When there is discord our ability to fulfill the purpose of this list -to help people interested in AP - is greatly diminished. How inviting is it for a new person looking for desperately needed advice to come to this list to find participants going on about unrelated subjects and being discourteous toward each other? We also risk losing our old time members. They don't post so much because many have their lives back, but they hold a wealth of experience that they share when needed. This is a valuable resource we would be poorer to be without. Take care, Ute --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Ute, can you tell me if there are moderators on this list? Who are they? Will moderators help members unsubscribe? I assume so. Why else would old time members (such as Norm and Janet) send an 'UNSUBSCRIBE' message to the group? An old time member would know about this. Also, perhaps the moderators could consider setting up an automatic message with the list rules that goes out to the members once a month. This is common practice of groups with . The list rules may include a provision to say topics of politics and religion are not appropriate. That might have stopped the first post from ever coming through. Amy Ute wrote: > > Dear Group, > When there is discord our ability to fulfill the purpose of this list -to > help people interested in AP - is greatly diminished. How inviting is it > for a new person looking for desperately needed advice to come to this > list > to find participants going on about unrelated subjects and being > discourteous toward each other? We also risk losing our old time members. > They don't post so much because many have their lives back, but they > hold a > wealth of experience that they share when needed. This is a valuable > resource we would be poorer to be without. > Take care, > Ute > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 On 2/27/08 7:33 AM, " Amy " <Evanesce@...> wrote: > Ute, can you tell me if there are moderators on this list? Who are they? The moderators are Ethel Snooks, who posted yesterday, and who has already indicated she was helping Norm, and and Adlard. posts every little bit, too. They help folks as need be, but wouldn't always announce individual concerns to the entire list. > Will moderators help members unsubscribe? I assume so. Why else would > old time members (such as Norm and Janet) send an 'UNSUBSCRIBE' message > to the group? An old time member would know about this. Just because a member has had arthritis for a long time doesn't mean they have a lot of interest in how email groups work. Most messages from most groups have the unsubscribe tag in the footer. Most folks overlook it. I try to think in terms of " what if that were my mother, or an elderly aunt, making that post that is a little ignorant of email lists and procedures " .. I would like them to be treated politely if they were here, and suspect that many of the folks who post here are no more prepared to deal with the minutia of how an email list works than my mother is. You have to assume that folks are here because they need help with arthritis, not because they are computer pros. > Also, perhaps the moderators could consider setting up an automatic > message with the list rules that goes out to the members once a month. This group sends out an FAQ on the antibiotic protocol once a month. I doubt most people read it after the first month, but it goes out every month. It wouldn't hurt to send out list rules, but there aren't a lot of rules here, other than it is expected we will be nice to each other... > This is common practice of groups with . The list rules may > include a provision to say topics of politics and religion are not > appropriate. That might have stopped the first post from ever coming > through. The first post was from a long time member who knew he was throwing a bomb, but did it anyway. Nothing wrong with sending a link to some information you would like to share... The group mentality of a list often escalates in response to controversial subjects rather than diffusing them, though, so it is probably best to steer clear of posts that seem likely to ignite controversy. When one does come through, it is probably best to resist the urge to fan the flames. -- Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Dear Jean. I am literate enough to know how to click on the blue. When I do here is what I get in return. We are unable to deliver a message from my (email address) to unsubscribe. Your message was sent to a group that does not exist. So, have any other suggestions. As an afterthought, this site saved me from a world of pain and suffering due to RA. I wish I could stay on the group. " God Bless you. Janet Re: rheumatic List purpose On 2/27/08 7:33 AM, " Amy " <Evanesce@...> wrote: > Ute, can you tell me if there are moderators on this list? Who are they? The moderators are Ethel Snooks, who posted yesterday, and who has already indicated she was helping Norm, and and Adlard. posts every little bit, too. They help folks as need be, but wouldn't always announce individual concerns to the entire list. > Will moderators help members unsubscribe? I assume so. Why else would > old time members (such as Norm and Janet) send an 'UNSUBSCRIBE' message > to the group? An old time member would know about this. Just because a member has had arthritis for a long time doesn't mean they have a lot of interest in how email groups work. Most messages from most groups have the unsubscribe tag in the footer. Most folks overlook it. I try to think in terms of " what if that were my mother, or an elderly aunt, making that post that is a little ignorant of email lists and procedures " .. I would like them to be treated politely if they were here, and suspect that many of the folks who post here are no more prepared to deal with the minutia of how an email list works than my mother is. You have to assume that folks are here because they need help with arthritis, not because they are computer pros. > Also, perhaps the moderators could consider setting up an automatic > message with the list rules that goes out to the members once a month. This group sends out an FAQ on the antibiotic protocol once a month. I doubt most people read it after the first month, but it goes out every month. It wouldn't hurt to send out list rules, but there aren't a lot of rules here, other than it is expected we will be nice to each other... > This is common practice of groups with . The list rules may > include a provision to say topics of politics and religion are not > appropriate. That might have stopped the first post from ever coming > through. The first post was from a long time member who knew he was throwing a bomb, but did it anyway. Nothing wrong with sending a link to some information you would like to share... The group mentality of a list often escalates in response to controversial subjects rather than diffusing them, though, so it is probably best to steer clear of posts that seem likely to ignite controversy. When one does come through, it is probably best to resist the urge to fan the flames. -- Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 On 2/27/08 5:43 PM, " Norman & Janet Moss " <enterprz@...> wrote: > Dear Jean. I am literate enough to know how to click on the blue. When I do > here is what I get in return. > We are unable to deliver a message from my (email address) to unsubscribe. > Your message was sent to a group that does not exist. So, have any other > suggestions. Well, we did notice that one of the links on the bottom of each email is very old, and from egroups instead of from ... Are you clicking a link in a delivered email, or on a group page on the web site? For the latter, see this page: (1) <rheumatic/join> If you used a link in an email message, did you use this address? (2) <rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups> Or this address? (3) <rheumatic-unsubscribe > Do they all fail? As Amy pointed out, the group owner can manually remove you, and sometimes group moderators can... That depends upon how the group is set up. can definitely remove you, but I don't know if he is around and reading. may be at some point. You could try sending an email requesting to be removed to this address: <rheumatic-owner > This should go to 's email address, but I cannot guarantee it will. If any of these work, let me know offlist, and I'll tell the list how it turned out. Warm regards and best of luck... Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 > > > Ute, can you tell me if there are moderators on this list? Who are they? > > The moderators are Ethel Snooks, who posted yesterday, and who has already > indicated she was helping Norm, and and Adlard. posts > every little bit, too. > > They help folks as need be, but wouldn't always announce individual concerns > to the entire list. > > > Will moderators help members unsubscribe? I assume so. Why else would > > old time members (such as Norm and Janet) send an 'UNSUBSCRIBE' message > > to the group? An old time member would know about this. > > Just because a member has had arthritis for a long time doesn't mean they > have a lot of interest in how email groups work. Most messages from most > groups have the unsubscribe tag in the footer. Most folks overlook it. > > I try to think in terms of " what if that were my mother, or an elderly aunt, > making that post that is a little ignorant of email lists and procedures " .. > I would like them to be treated politely if they were here, and suspect that > many of the folks who post here are no more prepared to deal with the > minutia of how an email list works than my mother is. > > You have to assume that folks are here because they need help with > arthritis, not because they are computer pros. > > > Also, perhaps the moderators could consider setting up an automatic > > message with the list rules that goes out to the members once a month. > > This group sends out an FAQ on the antibiotic protocol once a month. I doubt > most people read it after the first month, but it goes out every month. > > It wouldn't hurt to send out list rules, but there aren't a lot of rules > here, other than it is expected we will be nice to each other... > > > This is common practice of groups with . The list rules may > > include a provision to say topics of politics and religion are not > > appropriate. That might have stopped the first post from ever coming > > through. > > The first post was from a long time member who knew he was throwing a bomb, > but did it anyway. Nothing wrong with sending a link to some information you > would like to share... The group mentality of a list often escalates in > response to controversial subjects rather than diffusing them, though, so it > is probably best to steer clear of posts that seem likely to ignite > controversy. When one does come through, it is probably best to resist the > urge to fan the flames. > > -- > Jean > FOUND MY WAY OUT--HAVE SWITCHED OVER TO DAILY-DIGEST BUT YOU CAN ALSO UNSUBSCRIBE FOLLOWING SAME STEPS. > There are two routs. > 1- go to toolbar at top of page and find 'goups'icon,click arrow then click rheumatic. It will bring you back to your original subscription page where you can either unsubscribe or switch to other options. It was that easy once i found the rout. > 2--is a bit trickier, go to bottom of any posting and find just under 'to unsubscribe,email etc... (printed in black) there is an inch and a half grey window with a quarter inch dash displayed inside. click this. It's fairly obscure and just above 'change settings via the web' It will take you to then go to 'finding, joining, & mannaging your ' click eventually you will come across in the upper right hand corner, printed in black 'group name-blog-help' go to help and click. I think I've gotten this as straight forward as possible. GOOD LUCK and catch you all on the daily-digest Suzanne, Lynne's little sis > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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