Re: Friendly vegetarian messages

[Guest guest]

I know of *no* vegans who don't cheat (although I'm sure there are some),

including when I went temporarily insane in college and was a vegan

myself for a VERY SHORT TIME. Non- vegans aren't really vegetarians, just

people who abstain from *certain* kinds of animal foods while partaking

in other kinds of animal foods depending on their particular

sensibilities. One day we will be able to put that semantic nonsense

aside. BTW, I just finished reading about a notable *former* vegetarian,

Harvey Diamond of " Fit For Life " fame. Imagine that!

Bianca

On Wed, 06 Mar 2002 13:16:04 -1000 " Dr. Byrnes "

<daxx404@...> writes:

Here is a gem I received a few days ago. We are obviously striking some

nerves in the vegetarian/vegan community. I also received another one

today

from EX-vegans who are about to go public with their recent change to

meat-eating and subsequent improved health. Apparently, though I've never

heard of them, they are big deals in the vegan movement. I wish I could

post

the letter to our group, but the author asked to remain anonymous until

they

go public with their switch.

I wrote a stinging response to the author of the below letter (hey--I

give

as good as I get). Its been my experience that people who claim to have

been

vegan for X number of years and are healthy, that they ALWAYS cheat from

time to time. I even know one couple who own a health food store here in

Honolulu who say they are vegetarians, but then confess to eating fish

once

a week!

Anyway, enjoy.

All the best,

Byrnes, PhD, RNCP

http://www.PowerHealth.net

[Guest guest]

Bianca, please tell us more about Harvey Diamond, or where to find the info you

saw. How interesting!

Thanks.

Meighen

>>> bianca3@... 03/06/02 03:29PM >>>

I know of *no* vegans who don't cheat (although I'm sure there are some),

including when I went temporarily insane in college and was a vegan

myself for a VERY SHORT TIME. Non- vegans aren't really vegetarians, just

people who abstain from *certain* kinds of animal foods while partaking

in other kinds of animal foods depending on their particular

sensibilities. One day we will be able to put that semantic nonsense

aside. BTW, I just finished reading about a notable *former* vegetarian,

Harvey Diamond of " Fit For Life " fame. Imagine that!

Bianca

On Wed, 06 Mar 2002 13:16:04 -1000 " Dr. Byrnes "

<daxx404@...> writes:

Here is a gem I received a few days ago. We are obviously striking some

nerves in the vegetarian/vegan community. I also received another one

today

from EX-vegans who are about to go public with their recent change to

meat-eating and subsequent improved health. Apparently, though I've never

heard of them, they are big deals in the vegan movement. I wish I could

post

the letter to our group, but the author asked to remain anonymous until

they

go public with their switch.

I wrote a stinging response to the author of the below letter (hey--I

give

as good as I get). Its been my experience that people who claim to have

been

vegan for X number of years and are healthy, that they ALWAYS cheat from

time to time. I even know one couple who own a health food store here in

Honolulu who say they are vegetarians, but then confess to eating fish

once

a week!

Anyway, enjoy.

All the best,

Byrnes, PhD, RNCP

http://www.PowerHealth.net

[Guest guest]

Hi Meighen,

It is in his latest book (can't recall the name) authored just by him (he

is no longer married to Marilyn Diamond). He says that he eats animal

flesh about 3x a week. I appreciate *popular* authors who have the

courage to admit publically that they have changed their view.

Bianca

On Wed, 06 Mar 2002 18:42:05 -0500 " Meighen "

<russellm@...> writes:

Bianca, please tell us more about Harvey Diamond, or where to find the

info you saw. How interesting!

Thanks.

Meighen

>>> bianca3@... 03/06/02 03:29PM >>>

I know of *no* vegans who don't cheat (although I'm sure there are some),

including when I went temporarily insane in college and was a vegan

myself for a VERY SHORT TIME. Non- vegans aren't really vegetarians, just

people who abstain from *certain* kinds of animal foods while partaking

in other kinds of animal foods depending on their particular

sensibilities. One day we will be able to put that semantic nonsense

aside. BTW, I just finished reading about a notable *former* vegetarian,

Harvey Diamond of " Fit For Life " fame. Imagine that!

Bianca

On Wed, 06 Mar 2002 13:16:04 -1000 " Dr. Byrnes "

<daxx404@...> writes:

Here is a gem I received a few days ago. We are obviously striking some

nerves in the vegetarian/vegan community. I also received another one

today

from EX-vegans who are about to go public with their recent change to

meat-eating and subsequent improved health. Apparently, though I've never

heard of them, they are big deals in the vegan movement. I wish I could

post

the letter to our group, but the author asked to remain anonymous until

they

go public with their switch.

I wrote a stinging response to the author of the below letter (hey--I

give

as good as I get). Its been my experience that people who claim to have

been

vegan for X number of years and are healthy, that they ALWAYS cheat from

time to time. I even know one couple who own a health food store here in

Honolulu who say they are vegetarians, but then confess to eating fish

once

a week!

Anyway, enjoy.

All the best,

Byrnes, PhD, RNCP

http://www.PowerHealth.net

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Bianca. It does show integrity on his part, I think.

Meighen

>>> bianca3@... 03/06/02 03:53PM >>>

Hi Meighen,

It is in his latest book (can't recall the name) authored just by him (he

is no longer married to Marilyn Diamond). He says that he eats animal

flesh about 3x a week. I appreciate *popular* authors who have the

courage to admit publically that they have changed their view.

Bianca

On Wed, 06 Mar 2002 18:42:05 -0500 " Meighen "

<russellm@...> writes:

Bianca, please tell us more about Harvey Diamond, or where to find the

info you saw. How interesting!

Thanks.

Meighen

>>> bianca3@... 03/06/02 03:29PM >>>

I know of *no* vegans who don't cheat (although I'm sure there are some),

including when I went temporarily insane in college and was a vegan

myself for a VERY SHORT TIME. Non- vegans aren't really vegetarians, just

people who abstain from *certain* kinds of animal foods while partaking

in other kinds of animal foods depending on their particular

sensibilities. One day we will be able to put that semantic nonsense

aside. BTW, I just finished reading about a notable *former* vegetarian,

Harvey Diamond of " Fit For Life " fame. Imagine that!

Bianca

On Wed, 06 Mar 2002 13:16:04 -1000 " Dr. Byrnes "

<daxx404@...> writes:

Here is a gem I received a few days ago. We are obviously striking some

nerves in the vegetarian/vegan community. I also received another one

today

from EX-vegans who are about to go public with their recent change to

meat-eating and subsequent improved health. Apparently, though I've never

heard of them, they are big deals in the vegan movement. I wish I could

post

the letter to our group, but the author asked to remain anonymous until

they

go public with their switch.

I wrote a stinging response to the author of the below letter (hey--I

give

as good as I get). Its been my experience that people who claim to have

been

vegan for X number of years and are healthy, that they ALWAYS cheat from

time to time. I even know one couple who own a health food store here in

Honolulu who say they are vegetarians, but then confess to eating fish

once

a week!

Anyway, enjoy.

All the best,

Byrnes, PhD, RNCP

http://www.PowerHealth.net

[Guest guest]

You all might want to read an excellent article called " Natural Health Gurus

Eat Animals Too " by Chet Day and posted at http://www.chetday.com. It has

the info on Diamond, as well as several other reputed vegetarians like

Norman and Bragg. Trust me: vegetarians they were not.

SCB

>From: bianca3@...

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: " Friendly " vegetarian messages

>Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:53:34 -0800

>

>Hi Meighen,

>

>It is in his latest book (can't recall the name) authored just by him (he

>is no longer married to Marilyn Diamond). He says that he eats animal

>flesh about 3x a week. I appreciate *popular* authors who have the

>courage to admit publically that they have changed their view.

>

>Bianca

>

>On Wed, 06 Mar 2002 18:42:05 -0500 " Meighen "

><russellm@...> writes:

>Bianca, please tell us more about Harvey Diamond, or where to find the

>info you saw. How interesting!

>

>Thanks.

>Meighen

>

> >>> bianca3@... 03/06/02 03:29PM >>>

>I know of *no* vegans who don't cheat (although I'm sure there are some),

>including when I went temporarily insane in college and was a vegan

>myself for a VERY SHORT TIME. Non- vegans aren't really vegetarians, just

>people who abstain from *certain* kinds of animal foods while partaking

>in other kinds of animal foods depending on their particular

>sensibilities. One day we will be able to put that semantic nonsense

>aside. BTW, I just finished reading about a notable *former* vegetarian,

>Harvey Diamond of " Fit For Life " fame. Imagine that!

>

>Bianca

>

>On Wed, 06 Mar 2002 13:16:04 -1000 " Dr. Byrnes "

><daxx404@...> writes:

>Here is a gem I received a few days ago. We are obviously striking some

>nerves in the vegetarian/vegan community. I also received another one

>today

>from EX-vegans who are about to go public with their recent change to

>meat-eating and subsequent improved health. Apparently, though I've never

>

>heard of them, they are big deals in the vegan movement. I wish I could

>post

>the letter to our group, but the author asked to remain anonymous until

>they

>go public with their switch.

>

>I wrote a stinging response to the author of the below letter (hey--I

>give

>as good as I get). Its been my experience that people who claim to have

>been

>vegan for X number of years and are healthy, that they ALWAYS cheat from

>time to time. I even know one couple who own a health food store here in

>Honolulu who say they are vegetarians, but then confess to eating fish

>once

>a week!

>

>Anyway, enjoy.

>

>All the best,

>

> Byrnes, PhD, RNCP

>http://www.PowerHealth.net

>

>

[Guest guest]

Here is the exact address, http://chetday.com/healthgurus.htm

Enjoy!!

B

On Wed, 06 Mar 2002 20:46:51 -1000 " Dr. Byrnes "

<daxx404@...> writes:

You all might want to read an excellent article called " Natural Health

Gurus

Eat Animals Too " by Chet Day and posted at http://www.chetday.com. It has

the info on Diamond, as well as several other reputed vegetarians like

Norman and Bragg. Trust me: vegetarians they were not.

SCB

>From: bianca3@...

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: " Friendly " vegetarian messages

>Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:53:34 -0800

>

>Hi Meighen,

>

>It is in his latest book (can't recall the name) authored just by him

(he

>is no longer married to Marilyn Diamond). He says that he eats animal

>flesh about 3x a week. I appreciate *popular* authors who have the

>courage to admit publically that they have changed their view.

>

>Bianca

>

[Guest guest]

haha, that was funny! I've never looked at the books of WAP

foundation, but considering that they are far more likely to bring an

end to factory farming than PETA, I think they're the last people the

dairy industry would fund!