Guest guest Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 Hi, ! All I can tell you is what I am taking for psoriatic, rheumatoid, and fibromyalgia. I'm taking 200mg each day of minocin and 250mg each day of azithromycin. I am about 5 months into the protocol. I had a lot stronger herxheimer reaction than I probably would have had if I had started at a lower dose, but my doc seems to treat fairly aggressively. I do have occasional, minor episodes of dizziness akin to standing up too quickly. I do have to take the meds with food in spite of labeling otherwise because I simply cannot avoid a vicious heartburn otherwise. So, that probably reduces their effectiveness a bit. Hope that helps. Blessings! Terri _____ From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On Behalf Of doolan_a Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 11:26 PM rheumatic Subject: rheumatic Advice needed on dosage Hi All, Australian naturopath here. I have had a new lady present to me after hearing the ABC report on AP and being referred from the RB. She has had psoriatic arthritis for 8 years and had her right hand in a splint with lots of pain and inflammation, that was until she took the Minocin. She hasn't needed the splint since the day she first took Minocin. She was taking 100mg twice a day everyday until she felt the side effects were too much, dizziness and an awful metallic taste in her mouth. She is now doing 100mg/day, everyday and doing well. I said to her that many people here seem to do 100mg twice a day on Mon, Wed and Fri to avoid the reactions. Would this be a better regime than her current one? Also, my other client whose pain level has not changed from the 25% reduction and has managed to reduce her pain medication 25% is keen to add in one extra day and do 200mg M, W, F and Sat or is it better for us to just be patient, she is around 4 months into the protocol? Could you please advise on these situations? Thank you so much, Kindest regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 , the reason Dr. Brown, the rheumatologist who developed this protocol, pulsed the therapy was because he found that the organisms causing the disease were slow in cell division - varying between 24 and 48 hours so it wasn't necessary to 'throw' medication at them daily - putting the patient at risk for more gut problems. Having said that though, he varied the protocol during the treatment period - depending on the patient - always prescribing sufficient probiotics. In the early days of using this therapy he had the drug company make up capsules of tetracycline in 50 mg. child dose size to start people off - prescribing it to be taken once or twice a week - to avoid the Herxheimer, and they responded over time to that low dose. Now days, some doctors prescribe the Minocin in 50 mg. doses to start. We have found over the years that starting slowly is usually much easier on the patient. Tailor the protocol to the patient. In a conference back in 1991 for doctors using this therapy, each doctor had developed their own protocol. Dr. Bingham (now deceased) made the statement " I think large doses given every other day, other than at the beginning, are sort of a waste. We don't see a difference in daily doses and three times a week after the patient has been on it a while. " In psoriatic arthritis,omitting most grain products may prove to be helpful. As for your second patient, we have to remember this therapy is a slow process, but if she has hit a plateau, you may need to look for other problems that need addressing in order for the Minocin to work again, and do make sure to keep that gut in balance. If there are no other problems, then you could try increasing the dosage. Ethel rheumatic Advice needed on dosage > Hi All, > Australian naturopath here. I have had a new lady present to me after > hearing the ABC report on AP and being referred from the RB. She has > had psoriatic arthritis for 8 years and had her right hand in a splint > with lots of pain and inflammation, that was until she took the > Minocin. She hasn't needed the splint since the day she first took > Minocin. She was taking 100mg twice a day everyday until she felt the > side effects were too much, dizziness and an awful metallic taste in > her mouth. She is now doing 100mg/day, everyday and doing well. I > said to her that many people here seem to do 100mg twice a day on Mon, > Wed and Fri to avoid the reactions. Would this be a better regime than > her current one? Also, my other client whose pain level has not > changed from the 25% reduction and has managed to reduce her pain > medication 25% is keen to add in one extra day and do 200mg M, W, F and > Sat or is it better for us to just be patient, she is around 4 months > into the protocol? Could you please advise on these situations? > > Thank you so much, > > Kindest regards, > > > > ------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribe@...! Groups > Links > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 Thanks so much Ethel, you make everything so clear. Kind regards, . From: Ethel Snooks <emsnooks@...> Subject: Re: rheumatic Advice needed on dosage rheumatic Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 1:57 PM , the reason Dr. Brown, the rheumatologist who developed this protocol, pulsed the therapy was because he found that the organisms causing the disease were slow in cell division - varying between 24 and 48 hours so it wasn't necessary to 'throw' medication at them daily - putting the patient at risk for more gut problems. Having said that though, he varied the protocol during the treatment period - depending on the patient - always prescribing sufficient probiotics. In the early days of using this therapy he had the drug company make up capsules of tetracycline in 50 mg. child dose size to start people off - prescribing it to be taken once or twice a week - to avoid the Herxheimer, and they responded over time to that low dose. Now days, some doctors prescribe the Minocin in 50 mg. doses to start. We have found over the years that starting slowly is usually much easier on the patient. Tailor the protocol to the patient. In a conference back in 1991 for doctors using this therapy, each doctor had developed their own protocol. Dr. Bingham (now deceased) made the statement " I think large doses given every other day, other than at the beginning, are sort of a waste. We don't see a difference in daily doses and three times a week after the patient has been on it a while. " In psoriatic arthritis,omitting most grain products may prove to be helpful.. As for your second patient, we have to remember this therapy is a slow process, but if she has hit a plateau, you may need to look for other problems that need addressing in order for the Minocin to work again, and do make sure to keep that gut in balance. If there are no other problems, then you could try increasing the dosage. Ethel rheumatic Advice needed on dosage > Hi All, > Australian naturopath here. I have had a new lady present to me after > hearing the ABC report on AP and being referred from the RB. She has > had psoriatic arthritis for 8 years and had her right hand in a splint > with lots of pain and inflammation, that was until she took the > Minocin. She hasn't needed the splint since the day she first took > Minocin. She was taking 100mg twice a day everyday until she felt the > side effects were too much, dizziness and an awful metallic taste in > her mouth. She is now doing 100mg/day, everyday and doing well. I > said to her that many people here seem to do 100mg twice a day on Mon, > Wed and Fri to avoid the reactions. Would this be a better regime than > her current one? Also, my other client whose pain level has not > changed from the 25% reduction and has managed to reduce her pain > medication 25% is keen to add in one extra day and do 200mg M, W, F and > Sat or is it better for us to just be patient, she is around 4 months > into the protocol? Could you please advise on these situations? > > Thank you so much, > > Kindest regards, > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscri begroups (DOT) com > Links > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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