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HI Jackie :)

I saw this show last night and was repulsed. My take on it was he is a man

who needs attention lol why he says the most shocking remarks.........reminds

me of my son at age 6 lololol ALSO who in the world would take a man

seriously while he's wearing black sox with shorts heehee......anyone catch

that clip lololol

Kathy mom to Sara 10

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I saw that!!! The black socks with shorts...kinda gave him a little less

credibility, didn't it?

I tried to listen to him with an open mind...he is a very, very pathetic

excuse for a human, huh?

Sue

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One can only hope that when he is someday frail, his (Singer's) relatives

won't take him at his word and euthanize him.

Elaine

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> HI Jackie :)

>

> I saw this show last night and was repulsed. My take on it was he is a man

> who needs attention lol why he says the most shocking

remarks.........reminds

> me of my son at age 6 lololol ALSO who in the world would take a man

> seriously while he's wearing black sox with shorts heehee......anyone

catch

> that clip lololol

>

> Kathy mom to Sara 10

>

>

>

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Hey Donna, Thanks!!!

I never take the time to check listing, but feel great regret that i miss shows like the one you listed! What a great service! Thanks again,

Lynn

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Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 14:36:42 EDT

Subject: FYI

Thought some of y'all may be interested! DonnaTV Listings Episode, Human Hardware -- Discovery Health <http://health.discovery.com/schedule/episode.jsp?episode=2084293000>

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--- Hey Lori,

Sorry about that - I never post items correctly!

Go to keepkidshealthy.com

On that main page there is a section down the bottom next to a

picture of a BBQ called " Summertime food safety " follow that link to

the article -at the end of the article there are additional links.

The link you want to choose is called " Non-meat recalls " the

information and letters concerning that drug and additional ones are

there.

If you need anythng else, let me know.

'

Mom of 5 year old -Partial complex seizure disorder

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Carol, you are so right about this. The listowner of another list I am on told

us about this. It can be prevented by installing a firewall on your PC. Mac

owners don't have to worry about this. You can protect yourself with free

firewalls that can be downloaded on the internet. I have the Kerio firewall,

and my husband has Zone Alarm. You can go into www.dogpile.com and put in " free

firewall " to find out how you can download them.

I am amazed at how many times I am alerted to different websites, trying to get

into my computer. I thought my virus protection would be enough, but it only

covers e-mail. I love it - even when McAfee tries to update my virus

protection, I get a notification asking me if I want to let it through.

I totally destroyed my husband's business computer a couple of years ago by

opening a virus attachment, so I'm very sensitive to these things.

Marilyn

FYI

FYI, Just In Time For The Holidays: Those cute little electronic greeting

cards you occasionally get from friends may be a real problem. The ones I'm

speaking of are those where there's a link that says " [some Name] has sent you a

greeting card. Go here to get your greeting card " .

There's a new card company called " FriendGreetings.com " . When you get a card

notification from them and click on the link, it will take you to their site.

You will be notified that you have to install an ActiveX control in order to

view the card. When you begin to install, the first thing that pops up is what

is known as a " EULA " (End User License Agreement). It is very long, and you will

not read it. They're counting on that. When you scroll to the bottom of it and

click " Accept, " you have agreed to the terms of the EULA.

Part of what you will have agreed to is to have monitoring/spyware software

installed on your computer which will periodically report a vast array of data

back to the card company. The other part that you've agreed to is to have the

software send mail to EVERY SINGLE ADDRESS IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK.

In short, you've voluntarily agreed to install a virus-type product on your

machine. This is not a good thing.

See: <http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t269-s2124528,00.html> for details.

Since there is no virus in the email, and since you're VOLUNTARILY agreeing to

install the ActiveX component, VIRUS CHECKERS WILL NOT CATCH THIS.

Just a reminder: DO NOT OPEN EMAIL ATTACHMENTS when you are not expecting

them, and DO NOT RUN ANYTHING FROM THE INTERNET WHICH REQUIRES A EULA AGREEMENT.

Click on this site to view information stating the above information is TRUE.

Urban Legends Reference Pages: Search Engine

^^^ Thanks to Terry for sharing this... I remember reading about this at the

Symantic web site.^^

CAROL

I am not senile!!!!my mind is a filing cabinet.

The more information that I put in the longer it takes

to sort through it and retrieve a specific file!

Old people are not senile - it just takes

us longer to process all those files

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I got this fake email and reported it to Paypal. The same day I got

another one from a fake ebay that I forwarded to ebay. The ebay one

is about the 4th I've gotten. The first one nearly had me. I ended up

having to change my password and one of my credit card accounts. At

least I caught it before any damage was done. These people are scum

in the worst sense of the word. Karolyn

>

> Beware of an urgent email from security@P... to update your

> account.

>

> " It has come to our attention that your eBay Billing Information

records

> are

> out of date. That requires you to update the Billing Information.

If

> you

> could please take 5-10 minutes out of your online experience and

update

> your

> billing records, you will not run into any future problems with

eBay's

> online service. However, failure to update your records will

result in

> account termination. Please update your records in maximum 24

hours. "

>

> The link provides a web page that requests: username/password/email,

> creditcard/CCV, bank account/ABA... whole 9 yards. The

presentation is

> extremely convincing, with Paypal graphics deep-linked from official

> Paypal

> servers and all links programmed to show the Paypal.com URL in the

> browser

> status window on mouseover.

>

> The webpage requesting update of info is not an SHTTP page (ssl)

and the

> URL

> is a numerical IP to mask the identity, which goes to a bogus

> " elemantary "

> school in Korea: http://211.34.252.132/

>

> FBI Cybercrime Division confirms this is a new scam that is similar

to

> one

> which masqueraded as AOL and several other online service

providers. If

> you

> receive email that provides a link with a destination page

requesting

> personal information, you should be very suspicious. Generally, you

> should

> never give out personal information unless you go to that service

> provider's

> site and physically log into your account with your user-name and

> password.

>

> Please feel free to circulate this to anyone that can benefit.

>

> Zasada

> Communications Director

> FBI InfraGard Connecticut

> http://www.InfraGard-CT.org

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Enjoy your trip Vivian and try not to overdo it, but have FUN :)

Connie

FYI

> Going to " no mail " until next weekend. family is going to ton, SC

tomorrow for a friends wedding, then turning around Saturday to go to Orlando

for the rest of the week.

> I have packed an extra foam liner for my brace (so I can get in the hotel pool

and hot tub), extra pain meds, my wheelchair, and a smile to wear while I watch

everyone else ride all the rides. <sigh>

>

> Ya'll have a safe week, don't overdo it, and nothing exciting happen until I

get back. LOL

>

> Vivian H.

>

> Vivian H.

>

>

>

>

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All in a base of freeze-dried multiple glandulars including thyroid

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Contains about 40 mcg. (micrograms) of iodine per tablet. Iodine is

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it is not Rx, it is OTC

looks to be thyroid supportive (unless you have autoimmune) but not a good

substitute for medicine.

Gracia

> WHY DON'T DOCTORS PRESCRIBE THYODINE?

>

> tina83862 <tina8386@...> wrote:

> Click to Zoom 4. Thyodine

> SKU: 13

>

> Superb thyroid support. After years of seeking an effective product

> for hypothyroid conditions, we are thrilled to have discovered

> Thyodine. Contains dulse, bladderwrack, L-Tyrosine, Irish moss, and

> homeopathics in a base of multiple glandulars.

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Thyodine is a dietary supplement. It's merely nourishment for the body, not a

synthetic substance.

Jane <maryjane_39180@...> wrote:WHY DON'T DOCTORS PRESCRIBE THYODINE?

tina83862 wrote:

Click to Zoom 4. Thyodine

SKU: 13

Superb thyroid support. After years of seeking an effective product

for hypothyroid conditions, we are thrilled to have discovered

Thyodine. Contains dulse, bladderwrack, L-Tyrosine, Irish moss, and

homeopathics in a base of multiple glandulars. Since we introduced

this product, we have had numerous reports from customers who told us

that it not only helped their thyroid function, but that in many

cases it worked better than their prescription thyroid medications

like Synthroid. Rather than adding hormones to your body from an

outside source, Thyodine stimulates the thyroid gland to produce

normal amounts of thyroid hormone again.

If you have Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, please consult your practitioner

before using Thyodine. (Some people with Hashimoto's, especially if

it is mild, are helped by Thyodine. In other cases, Thyodine might

aggravate the condition, as it stimulates the thyroid gland.) Not

indicated for those whose thyroid function has been destroyed through

the use of radioactive iodine. Thyodine has been on the market for

over 10 years and has helped many thousands of people.* Our single

most popular product. Will last one month at an average dose. (60

tablets for $20.00; 6 or more for $18.00 each.)

[Testimonials page] We have dozens of testimonials for Thyodine.

[Thyodine FAQ] Please click on FAQ link for answers to most of your

questions about Thyodine and thyroid health.

Ingredients:

Each tablet of Thyodine contains the following:

Dulse 400 mg., Bladderwrack 15 mg., and Irish Moss 40 mg. (seaweeds

which are rich in trace minerals and naturally occurring iodine)

L-Tyrosine 30 mg. (an amino acid which is required for the production

of thyroid hormone)

Selenium (amino acid chelate; helps the body to convert T4 to T3) 100

mcg

Calcarea fluorica 6x and Lycopus virginicus 6x (homeopathic remedies

for healthy thyroid function)

All in a base of freeze-dried multiple glandulars including thyroid

(100 mg.), adrenal (50 mg.), pituitary (15 mg.), spleen (5 mg.), and

thymus (5 mg.), and others.

Contains about 40 mcg. (micrograms) of iodine per tablet. Iodine is

also required for the body to produce thyroid hormone.

Other ingredients: plant cellulose, vegetable stearates, magnesium

stearate, and natural silica.

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Dear All,

Dora is correct! I do have a flu. A very very bad flu. I am on day 7

or 8!!! Have NOT been to work all week. I do not plan to field much

fo r a few days. So I am calling on everyone especially TEXPERTS to

keep the site active and with correct information.

Just as I asked Dora to post this message from me, I just had to

respond to Laurie regarding law. Then I found a great site that I

posted about. But I will be in the background. There have been days

when I have not been on line and the site was suffering while I was

sick. Glad to see it is active again.

But I will not be fielding questions as often for a while.

Thanks

Love to all....cough... cough.. hack.. hack... hairball..yuck!

Jeanetta CPhT

Founder/Owner

> Hi all-

> Jeanetta has the flu and will be 'offline' for a few days while

she

> recovers. Feel free to continue your posts as usual, and

> the 'textperts' will do our best to field your questions.

>

> Sincerely,

> Dora

> Group Mod

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Hi all,

We're living proof that systemics can get iritis.

Stacia and Hunter,8,systemic,iritis

> My news is for the first time I was told that it is now

recommended that

> every sub-type of JRA get their eyes checked every 6 months,even

the polys and

> systemics.Although rare it can and does happen.

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Hi Stacia,

I was just told that it is now recomended that every child with JRA see the

optho every 6 months,even though it is rare with systemic.The whole visit was

awful, so bad I missed the joint exam.Mayby Georgina will find something while

hunting down info.I am known for rambling but I can't even talk about our

appointment without wanting to hit something.I just wanted to pass my info

along.I

think Hunter is the only systemic child that I know about in almost 3 years

with Iritis but just like you said he is living proof that it can happen and

considering there is usualy no noticable sighns every 6 months works for me.

Hugs

Becki and 5 systemic

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Becki,

I found it very interesting that the doctor brought up more frequent

visits --- did he offer any supporting data or new statistics to

substantiate the more frequent checkups for all? I'm very curious.

I can't remember if I asked our ophth. if he's ever seen another

systemic iritis case in his 20 years of practice. Isn't this all

just so interesting. Just when you're feeling fairly comfortable

with your knowledge....boom.

Stacia and Hunter,8,systemic,iritis

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Hi ,

Is this something new where the Dr tells you what he does during the operation my dr never told me anything about the operation just gave me a booklett telling me with to do after the operation I think the way you had your operation where they don't cut you is way people heal better :-)I feel like he took more then the bone out I feel like part of my muscles was taking out I had 38 staples and in the book he gave me it said 18 to 20 staples and I always feel like theirs something in their my dr says it bad scar tissue I wish I would have had a site like this five years ago .Well you have a good day:- Regards juneflower Susiekasia6720042 <kasia6720042@...> wrote:

Hey everyone, I just thought that I would add a bit of info to the board here. A lot of people seem to be pushing the mis zimmer mini hip lately and when I looked into it the big plus seemed to be the small incision site as well as the fact that the doctor does not cut muscle, tendons, etc, just pushes them aside. I just had a traditional TLHR on April 1st and my doctor did NOT do the mis mini, however he also did not cut any muscles, tendons, etc. He said that he just pushed everything aside. Also my incision is only 7 inches long (longer than the mis, but not as long as some others). My dr also said that a benefit of doing the traditional method is that he could see everything to make sure it is installed perfectly. Anyway, just thought I would share that there are many different ways of doing

the surgery as I am sure everyone here will testify to. - :-)

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Amen to that.. even the daily digest is a great option.

> Hello Everyone,

>

> Just some FYI. Alot of members end up unsubscribing due to the

> volume of mail they receive. If you don't like receiving all of

the

> mail but want to remain a member of the group, find your name in

the

> members list and select the " no email " option. That way you can

> come to the site and view only messages you want, instead of

> receiving every single message.

>

> Email if you have any questions or problems at

> iambored97601@y...

>

> Michele, Group Moderator

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I have gone through your mail informing those who are

working with organisations and especially men from

western regions that can help teach HIV/AIDS

homosexuality. am a member of edteck kenya which is

mainly concerned with highliting the community to the

importance of communication and in order to bridge the

gap between information poor to the information rich.

am an iterested party to know more about what is going

to be discussed.please, help me know how i can join.

Regards.

Samwel Omboke.> I send this to you all from a friend

of mine in The

> Netherlands, maybe

> anyone

> knows groups like this in African countries.

>

> Warmly

> Ingrid

> See text below:

>

> Dear Friends,

>

> The Dutch development aid organisation HIVOS is

> organising a symposium on

> HIV/AIDS and homosexualities in October. (see

> www.hivos.nl ). As I was

> talking to the organisers I found out that only a

> few gay men from western

> and central Africa are able to visit this symposium,

> so I stressed the need

> to have more men from this region represented at the

> symposium. Today they

> called me that I could present some men from this

> region and they will try

> to get some of them at the symposium. If there are

> any gay men from Western

> or Central Africa working on HIV/AIDS who are

> interested in this symposium,

> let me know and send me a short biography. As the

> symposium is already in

> October I need these names and addresses as soon as

> possible!!!!

>

> greetings from Amsterdam,

> Tanne de Goei

>

> Ingrid Kloet

> New Mexico Poz Coalition

> 5300 Eubank Blvd. #-9-D

> Albuquerque, NM 87111

> Phone: 505-298-2644

> Cell 505-280-2218

> Email: Ingrid@...

> www.gnpplus.net

> www.actalive.org

> www.planetpoz.org

> www.worldaidsmarathon.com

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

>

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In a message dated 3/28/2005 1:19:26 PM Pacific Standard Time, Ariquantum writes:

Subject: Hathors ~ Moving into appreciation/blissTOM KENYONJANUARY 2, 2005THE BIG ISLAND, HAWAIIWe have been besieged by an unprecedented number of requests from many people for my take on the recent earthquake/tsunami disaster in Asia. Quite frankly, I find such requests a bit unnerving--as if someone might be giving my thoughts more credence than they deserve. In any event, I went into meditation a few days ago to sense what might be in the ethers, so to speak, and in that process I asked the Hathors (who are interdimensional beings I have been working with since the early nineties), what they thought. They told me to go back and read something they had given me seven months earlier. When I did, I was stunned.The message below is what they gave me last June (2004). It addresses a wide range of issues, including future Earth changes. At the time I found it too disturbing to release to the public. The last thing I wanted to do was add to the New Age glut of Earth prophecies, dooms day scenarios and general millennium madness. I decided, for better or worse, to wait it out, and see if any of what they foresaw actually took place.Now, as I sit in the pouring rain at Kealakekua Bay in Hawaii, several days after the earthquake and tsunamis in Asia, I am sobered by what the Hathors told me back in June. Given the nature of their message, I wanted to talk about it a little in order to give it a broader context.For those of you who don't know who the Hathors are, and would like a little more info, you can hop up onto the web and do a search for Hathors (not to be confused with the Egyptian fertility goddess, Hator--though they are related)*. There are many people now working with the Hathors in one way or another. For the record, I work with thirteen mentors out of an intergalactic/interdimensional civilization of several million (if you accept that mythos).What I am trying to say here is that this viewpoint is one small cross section of a culture. To say that this message is a message from "The" Hathors, is like saying that a message is from The Hopi. There is no "The Hopi". There are many individuals making up the Hopi and thus many diverse opinions as to what should, or should not be done. Just look at the recent history of the US government bringing water pipes into the pueblos and you will see what I am talking about. Some Hopi were for the pipes, while others were not--fearing the enslavement of water bills and taxes. My point is that there is almost always a plethora of opinions, and the Hathors are no different. In this instance, however, at least as far as I can tell, the thoughts expressed by my Group are the consensus opinion of the vast majority of the Hathor culture. There are differing opinions as to the timeline, since--as they have told me repeatedly--the future is not a predetermined certainty but rather a multi-dimensional set of probabilities and possibilities.I will say this again because I think it is vital to understand in our current situation: The future is not a predetermined certainty, but rather a multi-dimensional set of probabilities and possibilities.The message, below, addresses several areas of concern, most notably climatic and Earth changes, but their take, as in so many things, is quite unique. Essentially they are saying that we are in a very dangerous passage in regard to our physical survival, and that, seemingly unknown to us, we collectively hold a key to our survival--if we will only use it. The key to which they refer is the act of living in ever-increasing levels of appreciation. They have commented on this to me on numerous occasions..The quasi-science on this (meaning this view is theoretical as opposed to being generally accepted by mainstream science) is that our DNA responds to our emotional state (our feelings) and then emits light and energy-patterns that affect matter. In other words, our DNA somehow affects our external reality through a process of vortex mechanics. I am not going to try to describe this here because most people aren't interested. You can find research reports on this type of thing by doing an internet search on--DNA and consciousness. Especially check out the work of The Heart Math Institute.In my own personal experiments with appreciation, I have found that when it is experienced for longer than a few minutes, it often produces a hypnotic-type feeling of bliss, which I equate to an increase in endorphins. At the very least, I think most of us would benefit from regular periods of appreciation/bliss in the course of our day-to-day lives. The challenge for many persons is how to feel appreciation when there is seemingly no reason for it. I have actually addressed this question in a previous letter, when the Hathors gave a message on the importance of this emotion, about a year ago.I think we are facing a collective and global intelligence test. If we fail to wake up in time to our power as creator-gods, taking both action and responsibility, knowing that our consciousness affects external events, we will pass into oblivion--much like the dinosaurs of old and integrity in government..We are in a time of immense chaos and transformation. Interestingly, the Chinese word for transformation consists of two ideograms--both danger and opportunity. Unquestionably, we live in dangerous times. I don't think anyone would deny that. And the evolutionary task, I think, is for each of us to find the opportunities and take the actions to transform ourselves even in the midst of life's increasing dangers. It would be far easier to contract into ourselves and re-treat from the world, but I think that would be a grave mistake--literally.To make things ever more daunting, we are living in the midst of a dying wor ld, both literally and figuratively. Just read the latest scientific reports on the condition of the ecosystem, including the melting of the polar ice caps, and it becomes crystal clear what dire shape things are in. But the death of our world also includes the collapse of our modern ways of living because, quite frankly, they are unsustainable. It hurts both the Earth and its inhabitants. So what will the new world look like on the other side of this metaphorical (or perhaps literal) death? I don't think anyone really knows for sure.What the Hathors say is that we collectively hold a key to our own survival and destiny. The question is whether we will wake up in time to use it.Final Thoughts on PragmatismI am a practical person and I don't usually go for things that are too-pie-in-the-sky, so when the Hathors' suggested that appreciation is the key for changing destiny, I hesitated. I mean how many of us will it take living in appreciation to tip the gyroscopic balance of our destiny in favor of our collective survival? And just how many hours a day does it require to be in appreciation to be effective? To be honest, I can't sustain a continual state of this emotion for more than a few hours. Something always comes along to blow it. So I find myself having to regroup my mental carnival from time to time in order to re-enter the appreciative state. But when I do, it is well worth the effort. And that may be the main reason for this mental/emotional discipline--it increases well being.

In a similar vein, I think we will collectively need to abandon some of the rules we have been given on how to live a life--like not making waves and pretending that everything is alright and that we can continue to live like we are used to. If we don't change how we are living on this planet (both in terms of outer action and inner feelings) I suspect that soon we will not have a life worth living. Unpredictable miracles can and do occur (along with horrors, but that's another story).

The point is that we are in a highly volatile time and the course of events can change in a moment's notice.I pray for this change of course every day, and in my optimistically flavored moments,I see reasons to hope that it shall be so.But whatever the outcome, the show isn't over. And it won't be over--to use Carlin's politically correct turn of phrase--until the weight challenged lady sings! I guess what I want to say personally here, to answer those people who have asked for my take on the current state of affairs--is to enjoy your life more. Find things to appreciate and practice senseless moments of appreciation just for the heck of it. It will help make you more creative, resourceful and intelligent and less of a stick-in-the-mud and evolutionary slacker. And who knows, maybe if enough of us try it, we just might tip the scales in favor of our survival as a species.And now here is what the Hathors had to say in early June, 2004. Remember, the truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off, or scare the shit out of you. Have a great life and keep smiling! *Suggested reading: The Hathor Material, Tom Kenyon and Virginia Essene, SEE PublishingA MESSAGE FOR THE LIFE SUSTAINERSA MESSAGE FROM THE HATHORS THROUGH TOM KENYONJune 21, 2004You are at a pivotal point in the fulcrum of consciousness. Your earth is about to undergo a purification the likes of which have not been seen for 26,000 years. The timelines of this would have been sooner were it not for the intervention of beings in many realms and the efforts of what you call light workers, which we view as "life sustainers." There is a highly catalytic energy coming from deep space, which is striking the Great Central Sun (of your galaxy) and the Sun of your solar system.Your Sun is experiencing immense changes in its magnetic field, and this is, in turn, affecting the magnetic field of your Earth. This is altering many dynamic systems on your planet including, but not limited to, the oceanic conveyer belt. This deep-space energy that is affecting both the Sun and your Earth is essentially an energy of accelerating self-awareness and spiritual evolution..The universe (or at least this part of it) is waking up to itself in new and different ways. And this process of increased self-awareness is speeding things up, so to speak. It is important to realize that what looks like a disturbance at one level of consciousness can be seen as a catalyst at another level.Whether life is allowed to continue on this planet or not, will be decided collectively through a reaction to the choices you make as humanity. If the collective is able to receive these energies from deep space and make an evolutionary and spiritual leap, the disturbance of the electromagnetic fields, specifically the magnetic poles, will not affect the conveyer belt the way that it is now..Think of yourself as living on a giant gyroscope. The slightest movement of a gyroscope creates tremendous movement in the rings of the gyroscope, the stabilizing rings. So the gyroscope of Earth is fluctuating, but this fluctuation can be expressed as physical manifestation, or as elevations of consciousness. But if the collective consciousness of this Earth does not elevate quick enough, then the gyroscope will simply transfer the energy to the physical dimension, specifically the magnetic poles and the magnetic field, which, in turn, affects the conveyer belt. If the conveyer stops, life, as you know it, will become very difficult or end altogether, quickly. We would say to you that you are very close to this point.As to weather, expect increasingly turbulent storms of greater strength and amplitude. We wish to convey to you a clear understanding that these storms are an out-picturing of the violence, the misdirected energy, and the imbalance of human consciousness. If, somehow, enough individual consciousnesses within the collective are able to elevate themselves into the fifth or higher dimensions of consciousness, the energies from deep space will be integrated through the process of elevation.If, collectively, you are not able to attain this, these energies will affect the physical aspect of Earth's gyroscope, to use that metaphor. And life as you know it and have experienced it will be very difficult due to climatic and Earth changes. You are about to see a tremendous increase in geothermal activity, including volcanoes and earthquakes. You are already seeing a tremendous increase in tornadoes and this will only escalate. The hurricanes that will be coming in the next year and the years to follow will make previous hurricanes seem like a gentle breeze.So let us summarize the first idea we wish to convey. The impulse for increased consciousness is flowing from deep space, striking your Sun, and affecting the subtle energies of your earth. If humanity is able to rise to a level of spiritual mastery these affects will be decreased, transmuted, and become a source for further elevation. If humanity is not able to attain this, then the physical act of purification must take place--simply because energy cannot be destroyed..We are not alarmists. This message is not intended to create distress, but rather to create awareness of the need for taking care of yourself and your loved ones in specific ways.There are two areas of action we suggest. The first has to do with spiritual preparation and the second has to do with physical survival. From the standpoint of yourselves as souls, it is immaterial whether your present embodiment continues or not. Spiritual preparation means to prepare for the possibility of your death through a recommitment to your life--to living and choosing what is essential for ever-increasing experiences of appreciation and joy.

It sounds odd, but following your deepest sense of joy will lead you to be in the places where you will most likely survive, should the Earth go into a period of purification.Spiritual preparation also includes clearing away the obstructions between you and your own psychic knowing, and being willing to move in an instant's notice, and a willingness to move even if those around you insist on remaining where they are. Should the Earth go into its travail of purification, you must be prepared to follow your own inner knowing, for that is the only compass you will have, both literally and figuratively. In terms of physical survival, at the very least, you will need to obtain and store food and emergency supplies, including water and warm clothing, even if you live currently in a mild to tropical environment..Get to know your friends and neighbors, for it may require a level of cooperation you are not used to, in order to physically survive the purification. Even if outright catastrophe is averted, there will be a radical increase in aberrant weather and possible challenges to food production.Finally we would say to begin a discipline of connecting with your spiritual aspect, in whatever ways you find most effective. You will want to strengthen these connections, for if the Earth enters into travail, there will be much chaos and many voices from those in distress and in confusion, and you will need to have access to your innermost self--to the small silent voice within--to tell you where to go and what to do, and sometimes that may mean going nowhere and doing nothing.For those living within the US, know that you are being lied to, both politically and economically. It is not our focus to discuss these issues facing you. Anyone interested in such things can find the information. Let us just say that it is quite possible that the US economy will falter within the next year or two. Simple logic and common sense are your allies here. Preparing for a possible economic downturn means to become financially self-reliant. Should this occur, you will find that life gets much simpler..For one who has achieved a detachment from their monetary expectations, the devaluing of money will be a difficulty, to be sure, but not an emotional and spiritual catastrophe. Build your house upon solid ground, not the shifting sands. And in this case, the shifting sands are your monetary system. The solid ground is your connection to your own God-Self, to the spiritual dimensions where you dwell, even as you live on Earth.Finally we wish to say to you that as difficult as the challenges are, you are still the Masters of your destiny, although you slumber in forgetfulness. If you are to survive you must awaken. In our world we have a ritualistic object. It is made of the finest gold that has been culled from the ninth dimension. In this box there are three symbolic stones. We refer to this box as the Ark of Humanity, as a symbol for that which will carry you (humanity) into a new dimension.The three stones represent the three within humanity. There are those who would rather kill and die than awaken to the truth of themselves as Creator Gods. They remain asleep, though dangerous, since they sleepwalk and appear to be like everyone else. These are the people of the first stone.The second stone represents those who do not wish to be bothered; do not wish to change how they live life. They are not particularly violent, just numb.The third stone represents those who are awakening and have awakened to themselves as Creator Gods, understanding that they are responsible for their aspect of Creation and who willingly accept the responsibility of living upward through joy and harmony in a world so full of conflict.The Ark of Humanity holds all three stones, and if the Ark of Humanity is to carry the entire collective into the fifth dimension and beyond, it must carry all three stones. The task for collective transmutation rests upon the shoulders of those of the third stone. Even though you are late in the hour (so to speak), total catastrophe can be averted. Ironically it has more to do with how the third stone of humanity chooses to live their life..If you succumb to the emotions of fear and horror, the Ark of Humanity will not be carried into the fifth dimension and beyond, because the purification will destroy most life on Earth. If this occurs, you will simply find that you will return to the spiritual realm according to the level of your development and spiritual attainment.So we speak not to the first or second stones, for they cannot hear us; although their eyes may see these words or their ears hear the words, they will not comprehend. This is for those of you of the third stone. You know who you are. For you will have been electrified by what you have just read.

We bow to you, the protectors and the guardians of the human spirit. We bow to you, sages and masters, for your spiritual courage to have incarnated upon this Earth at this time. Live more fully. Laugh more heartily. Forgive more completely. You are the Masters of your destiny. Be Happy. The Hathors@Copyright 2005 Tom Kenyon website: www.tomkenyon.comNote: You may duplicate this information in any format and share it withothers so long as you do not alter its content in any way and give credit to Tom Kenyon (including the address of his website and this notice

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Subject: Hathors ~ Moving into appreciation/blissTOM KENYONJANUARY 2, 2005THE BIG ISLAND, HAWAIIWe have been besieged by an unprecedented number of requests from many people for my take on the recent earthquake/tsunami disaster in Asia. Quite frankly, I find such requests a bit unnerving--as if someone might be giving my thoughts more credence than they deserve. In any event, I went into meditation a few days ago to sense what might be in the ethers, so to speak, and in that process I asked the Hathors (who are interdimensional beings I have been working with since the early nineties), what they thought. They told me to go back and read something they had given me seven months earlier. When I did, I was stunned.The message below is what they gave me last June (2004). It addresses a wide range of issues, including future Earth changes. At the time I found it too disturbing to release to the public. The last thing I wanted to do was add to the New Age glut of Earth prophecies, dooms day scenarios and general millennium madness. I decided, for better or worse, to wait it out, and see if any of what they foresaw actually took place.Now, as I sit in the pouring rain at Kealakekua Bay in Hawaii, several days after the earthquake and tsunamis in Asia, I am sobered by what the Hathors told me back in June. Given the nature of their message, I wanted to talk about it a little in order to give it a broader context.For those of you who don't know who the Hathors are, and would like a little more info, you can hop up onto the web and do a search for Hathors (not to be confused with the Egyptian fertility goddess, Hator--though they are related)*. There are many people now working with the Hathors in one way or another. For the record, I work with thirteen mentors out of an intergalactic/interdimensional civilization of several million (if you accept that mythos).What I am trying to say here is that this viewpoint is one small cross section of a culture. To say that this message is a message from "The" Hathors, is like saying that a message is from The Hopi. There is no "The Hopi". There are many individuals making up the Hopi and thus many diverse opinions as to what should, or should not be done. Just look at the recent history of the US government bringing water pipes into the pueblos and you will see what I am talking about. Some Hopi were for the pipes, while others were not--fearing the enslavement of water bills and taxes. My point is that there is almost always a plethora of opinions, and the Hathors are no different. In this instance, however, at least as far as I can tell, the thoughts expressed by my Group are the consensus opinion of the vast majority of the Hathor culture. There are differing opinions as to the timeline, since--as they have told me repeatedly--the future is not a predetermined certainty but rather a multi-dimensional set of probabilities and possibilities.I will say this again because I think it is vital to understand in our current situation: The future is not a predetermined certainty, but rather a multi-dimensional set of probabilities and possibilities.The message, below, addresses several areas of concern, most notably climatic and Earth changes, but their take, as in so many things, is quite unique. Essentially they are saying that we are in a very dangerous passage in regard to our physical survival, and that, seemingly unknown to us, we collectively hold a key to our survival--if we will only use it. The key to which they refer is the act of living in ever-increasing levels of appreciation. They have commented on this to me on numerous occasions..The quasi-science on this (meaning this view is theoretical as opposed to being generally accepted by mainstream science) is that our DNA responds to our emotional state (our feelings) and then emits light and energy-patterns that affect matter. In other words, our DNA somehow affects our external reality through a process of vortex mechanics. I am not going to try to describe this here because most people aren't interested. You can find research reports on this type of thing by doing an internet search on--DNA and consciousness. Especially check out the work of The Heart Math Institute.In my own personal experiments with appreciation, I have found that when it is experienced for longer than a few minutes, it often produces a hypnotic-type feeling of bliss, which I equate to an increase in endorphins. At the very least, I think most of us would benefit from regular periods of appreciation/bliss in the course of our day-to-day lives. The challenge for many persons is how to feel appreciation when there is seemingly no reason for it. I have actually addressed this question in a previous letter, when the Hathors gave a message on the importance of this emotion, about a year ago.I think we are facing a collective and global intelligence test. If we fail to wake up in time to our power as creator-gods, taking both action and responsibility, knowing that our consciousness affects external events, we will pass into oblivion--much like the dinosaurs of old and integrity in government..We are in a time of immense chaos and transformation. Interestingly, the Chinese word for transformation consists of two ideograms--both danger and opportunity. Unquestionably, we live in dangerous times. I don't think anyone would deny that. And the evolutionary task, I think, is for each of us to find the opportunities and take the actions to transform ourselves even in the midst of life's increasing dangers. It would be far easier to contract into ourselves and re-treat from the world, but I think that would be a grave mistake--literally.To make things ever more daunting, we are living in the midst of a dying wor ld, both literally and figuratively. Just read the latest scientific reports on the condition of the ecosystem, including the melting of the polar ice caps, and it becomes crystal clear what dire shape things are in. But the death of our world also includes the collapse of our modern ways of living because, quite frankly, they are unsustainable. It hurts both the Earth and its inhabitants. So what will the new world look like on the other side of this metaphorical (or perhaps literal) death? I don't think anyone really knows for sure.What the Hathors say is that we collectively hold a key to our own survival and destiny. The question is whether we will wake up in time to use it.Final Thoughts on PragmatismI am a practical person and I don't usually go for things that are too-pie-in-the-sky, so when the Hathors' suggested that appreciation is the key for changing destiny, I hesitated. I mean how many of us will it take living in appreciation to tip the gyroscopic balance of our destiny in favor of our collective survival? And just how many hours a day does it require to be in appreciation to be effective? To be honest, I can't sustain a continual state of this emotion for more than a few hours. Something always comes along to blow it. So I find myself having to regroup my mental carnival from time to time in order to re-enter the appreciative state. But when I do, it is well worth the effort. And that may be the main reason for this mental/emotional discipline--it increases well being.

In a similar vein, I think we will collectively need to abandon some of the rules we have been given on how to live a life--like not making waves and pretending that everything is alright and that we can continue to live like we are used to. If we don't change how we are living on this planet (both in terms of outer action and inner feelings) I suspect that soon we will not have a life worth living. Unpredictable miracles can and do occur (along with horrors, but that's another story).

The point is that we are in a highly volatile time and the course of events can change in a moment's notice.I pray for this change of course every day, and in my optimistically flavored moments,I see reasons to hope that it shall be so.But whatever the outcome, the show isn't over. And it won't be over--to use Carlin's politically correct turn of phrase--until the weight challenged lady sings! I guess what I want to say personally here, to answer those people who have asked for my take on the current state of affairs--is to enjoy your life more. Find things to appreciate and practice senseless moments of appreciation just for the heck of it. It will help make you more creative, resourceful and intelligent and less of a stick-in-the-mud and evolutionary slacker. And who knows, maybe if enough of us try it, we just might tip the scales in favor of our survival as a species.And now here is what the Hathors had to say in early June, 2004. Remember, the truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off, or scare the shit out of you. Have a great life and keep smiling! *Suggested reading: The Hathor Material, Tom Kenyon and Virginia Essene, SEE PublishingA MESSAGE FOR THE LIFE SUSTAINERSA MESSAGE FROM THE HATHORS THROUGH TOM KENYONJune 21, 2004You are at a pivotal point in the fulcrum of consciousness. Your earth is about to undergo a purification the likes of which have not been seen for 26,000 years. The timelines of this would have been sooner were it not for the intervention of beings in many realms and the efforts of what you call light workers, which we view as "life sustainers." There is a highly catalytic energy coming from deep space, which is striking the Great Central Sun (of your galaxy) and the Sun of your solar system.Your Sun is experiencing immense changes in its magnetic field, and this is, in turn, affecting the magnetic field of your Earth. This is altering many dynamic systems on your planet including, but not limited to, the oceanic conveyer belt. This deep-space energy that is affecting both the Sun and your Earth is essentially an energy of accelerating self-awareness and spiritual evolution..The universe (or at least this part of it) is waking up to itself in new and different ways. And this process of increased self-awareness is speeding things up, so to speak. It is important to realize that what looks like a disturbance at one level of consciousness can be seen as a catalyst at another level.Whether life is allowed to continue on this planet or not, will be decided collectively through a reaction to the choices you make as humanity. If the collective is able to receive these energies from deep space and make an evolutionary and spiritual leap, the disturbance of the electromagnetic fields, specifically the magnetic poles, will not affect the conveyer belt the way that it is now..Think of yourself as living on a giant gyroscope. The slightest movement of a gyroscope creates tremendous movement in the rings of the gyroscope, the stabilizing rings. So the gyroscope of Earth is fluctuating, but this fluctuation can be expressed as physical manifestation, or as elevations of consciousness. But if the collective consciousness of this Earth does not elevate quick enough, then the gyroscope will simply transfer the energy to the physical dimension, specifically the magnetic poles and the magnetic field, which, in turn, affects the conveyer belt. If the conveyer stops, life, as you know it, will become very difficult or end altogether, quickly. We would say to you that you are very close to this point.As to weather, expect increasingly turbulent storms of greater strength and amplitude. We wish to convey to you a clear understanding that these storms are an out-picturing of the violence, the misdirected energy, and the imbalance of human consciousness. If, somehow, enough individual consciousnesses within the collective are able to elevate themselves into the fifth or higher dimensions of consciousness, the energies from deep space will be integrated through the process of elevation.If, collectively, you are not able to attain this, these energies will affect the physical aspect of Earth's gyroscope, to use that metaphor. And life as you know it and have experienced it will be very difficult due to climatic and Earth changes. You are about to see a tremendous increase in geothermal activity, including volcanoes and earthquakes. You are already seeing a tremendous increase in tornadoes and this will only escalate. The hurricanes that will be coming in the next year and the years to follow will make previous hurricanes seem like a gentle breeze.So let us summarize the first idea we wish to convey. The impulse for increased consciousness is flowing from deep space, striking your Sun, and affecting the subtle energies of your earth. If humanity is able to rise to a level of spiritual mastery these affects will be decreased, transmuted, and become a source for further elevation. If humanity is not able to attain this, then the physical act of purification must take place--simply because energy cannot be destroyed..We are not alarmists. This message is not intended to create distress, but rather to create awareness of the need for taking care of yourself and your loved ones in specific ways.There are two areas of action we suggest. The first has to do with spiritual preparation and the second has to do with physical survival. From the standpoint of yourselves as souls, it is immaterial whether your present embodiment continues or not. Spiritual preparation means to prepare for the possibility of your death through a recommitment to your life--to living and choosing what is essential for ever-increasing experiences of appreciation and joy.

It sounds odd, but following your deepest sense of joy will lead you to be in the places where you will most likely survive, should the Earth go into a period of purification.Spiritual preparation also includes clearing away the obstructions between you and your own psychic knowing, and being willing to move in an instant's notice, and a willingness to move even if those around you insist on remaining where they are. Should the Earth go into its travail of purification, you must be prepared to follow your own inner knowing, for that is the only compass you will have, both literally and figuratively. In terms of physical survival, at the very least, you will need to obtain and store food and emergency supplies, including water and warm clothing, even if you live currently in a mild to tropical environment..Get to know your friends and neighbors, for it may require a level of cooperation you are not used to, in order to physically survive the purification. Even if outright catastrophe is averted, there will be a radical increase in aberrant weather and possible challenges to food production.Finally we would say to begin a discipline of connecting with your spiritual aspect, in whatever ways you find most effective. You will want to strengthen these connections, for if the Earth enters into travail, there will be much chaos and many voices from those in distress and in confusion, and you will need to have access to your innermost self--to the small silent voice within--to tell you where to go and what to do, and sometimes that may mean going nowhere and doing nothing.For those living within the US, know that you are being lied to, both politically and economically. It is not our focus to discuss these issues facing you. Anyone interested in such things can find the information. Let us just say that it is quite possible that the US economy will falter within the next year or two. Simple logic and common sense are your allies here. Preparing for a possible economic downturn means to become financially self-reliant. Should this occur, you will find that life gets much simpler..For one who has achieved a detachment from their monetary expectations, the devaluing of money will be a difficulty, to be sure, but not an emotional and spiritual catastrophe. Build your house upon solid ground, not the shifting sands. And in this case, the shifting sands are your monetary system. The solid ground is your connection to your own God-Self, to the spiritual dimensions where you dwell, even as you live on Earth.Finally we wish to say to you that as difficult as the challenges are, you are still the Masters of your destiny, although you slumber in forgetfulness. If you are to survive you must awaken. In our world we have a ritualistic object. It is made of the finest gold that has been culled from the ninth dimension. In this box there are three symbolic stones. We refer to this box as the Ark of Humanity, as a symbol for that which will carry you (humanity) into a new dimension.The three stones represent the three within humanity. There are those who would rather kill and die than awaken to the truth of themselves as Creator Gods. They remain asleep, though dangerous, since they sleepwalk and appear to be like everyone else. These are the people of the first stone.The second stone represents those who do not wish to be bothered; do not wish to change how they live life. They are not particularly violent, just numb.The third stone represents those who are awakening and have awakened to themselves as Creator Gods, understanding that they are responsible for their aspect of Creation and who willingly accept the responsibility of living upward through joy and harmony in a world so full of conflict.The Ark of Humanity holds all three stones, and if the Ark of Humanity is to carry the entire collective into the fifth dimension and beyond, it must carry all three stones. The task for collective transmutation rests upon the shoulders of those of the third stone. Even though you are late in the hour (so to speak), total catastrophe can be averted. Ironically it has more to do with how the third stone of humanity chooses to live their life..If you succumb to the emotions of fear and horror, the Ark of Humanity will not be carried into the fifth dimension and beyond, because the purification will destroy most life on Earth. If this occurs, you will simply find that you will return to the spiritual realm according to the level of your development and spiritual attainment.So we speak not to the first or second stones, for they cannot hear us; although their eyes may see these words or their ears hear the words, they will not comprehend. This is for those of you of the third stone. You know who you are. For you will have been electrified by what you have just read.

We bow to you, the protectors and the guardians of the human spirit. We bow to you, sages and masters, for your spiritual courage to have incarnated upon this Earth at this time. Live more fully. Laugh more heartily. Forgive more completely. You are the Masters of your destiny. Be Happy. The Hathors@Copyright 2005 Tom Kenyon website: www.tomkenyon.comNote: You may duplicate this information in any format and share it withothers so long as you do not alter its content in any way and give credit to Tom Kenyon (including the address of his website and this notice).

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i must also inform all of you that he never did

respond to my post nor take me " up " on my offers.

jenny

--- Hauf <jennyhauf@...> wrote:

> wanted all of you to read it here first...i have

> been

> notified that my posting is making the rounds on the

> internet...

>

>

>

>

> Wednesday, February 01, 2006More on the alternative

> medicine clinics in Mexico where Coretta King

> died:

>

> The Tijuana area has been a mecca for alternative

> medicine for more than 40 years, reaching the height

> of its fame in 1980 after actor Steve McQueen was

> treated for cancer at another rito Beach clinic

> with laetrile, a treatment made from apricot pits.

> McQueen died a few months after his treatment.

>

> Donsbach has had a long and controversial career

> promoting treatments that many medical and

> health-fraud experts consider useless or unproven.

> His

> clinic's Web site touts such therapies as microwave

> energy for " heating " cancer cells, and anti-cancer

> nutritional supplements formulated by Donsbach.

>

> Though the clinic's Web site refers to Donsbach as

> " Dr. " and says he has " successfully treated

> thousands

> of critically ill patients, " it fails to mention

> that

> Donsbach has no medical degree. Nor does the Web

> site

> cite Donsbach's conviction in 1996 for federal tax

> evasion and smuggling illegal medicines across the

> border.

>

> Dr. Barrett, director of Quackwatch, a

> nonprofit group that combats medical fraud, said the

> U.S. government should pressure Mexico to " clean up

> the Tijuana 'alternative' clinic cess pool. "

>

> " When someone well-known and highly respected goes

> there it just demonstrates how vulnerable people

> are, "

> Barrett said.

> Posted by @ 9:16 AM | Comments (1)

>

> Comments:

> ,

> I noticed that you have a link to a report regarding

> Coretta King, although you fail to mention the

> fact that she had not started treatment at the

> Tijuana

> clinic, she died of respitory failure.

> Steve McQueen was treated at a clinic in

> rito,however, he did not die of cancer, he died

> with cancer. He actually died during complications

> during surgery for a ruptured appendix.

> My son was diagnoised with terminal brain cancer in

> 1991, astrocytoma, grade 4. I took him to a clinic

> in

> Tijuana, he received laetrile, immune therapy, along

> with other natural, alternative treatments. It took

> one year of treatment and his tumor was gone!

> He is now 28 years old, cancer free and a very

> healty,

> happy, successful young man. Without, I might add,

> chemo or radiation.

> What is the success rate for chemo and/or radiation?

> I challange you to post and respond to my post. I

> have

> been helping patients for over 13 years find the

> help

> they are seeking. I am a firm believer in freedom of

> choice. Is the alternative route for everyone? No.

> Is

> it 100%? No. It is the individual's biological

> response to the treatment. Alternative therapy can

> work.

> Not all clinic's in Tijuana are " cess pools " . I also

> challange you to this: I will personally take you to

> several Tijuana clinic's and show you how up to

> date,

> advanced, and clean they are. I put my only childs

> life in their hands and they saved him. That is more

> than I can say for our wonderful western medical

> community. Are you up to the challanges? Feel free

> to

> email me at: gorkaginny58@...

>

>

>

> # posted by : 10:31 PM

>

>

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[uS federal]...judge declared Barrett to be a " zealot "

whose " testimony should be accorded little, if any, credibility " .

Barrett's stories about " The Shady Activities of Dr. Kurt Donsbach "

are transparent character assassination attempts by a man who himself

has international credibility isues.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_National_Council_Against_Health_Fraud

There is plenty of valid health info out there without resorting to a

reeking agenda site for information and potentially being tarred by

the same brush.

By the way, apparently Coretta King died without having received

treatment from Dr. Kurt Donsbach, yet this Quackwatch NCAHF zealot

group still promotes something entirely different...? It's a wonder

they aren't all in jail.

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