Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 couldnt agree more! --- patricia_gilbert_49 <no_reply > wrote: > [uS federal]...judge declared Barrett to be a > " zealot " > whose " testimony should be accorded little, if any, > credibility " . > > Barrett's stories about " The Shady Activities of Dr. > Kurt Donsbach " > are transparent character assassination attempts by > a man who himself > has international credibility isues. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_National_Council_Against_Health_Fraud > > There is plenty of valid health info out there > without resorting to a > reeking agenda site for information and potentially > being tarred by > the same brush. > > By the way, apparently Coretta King died without > having received > treatment from Dr. Kurt Donsbach, yet this > Quackwatch NCAHF zealot > group still promotes something entirely > different...? It's a wonder > they aren't all in jail. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 Hey there, It seems to me that the bowels are the first issue to deal with. If the bowels are not working then the toxins wont come out, and the bad stuff gets reabsorbed. Testing can be such a helpful starting point, to see what needs attention and start there. I would start a food journal and just for a week or two keep track of food and behavior, sleep, etc. This is the only way I can figure out when my son is not tolerating something. Then you may see really obvious things that need to be removed or rotated, and look for patterns in food that is eaten, like if its all potatoes or rice, etc. This is kind of a pain, but I would keep it simple. I have a clip board that I have paper that I print out lines and date for, in fact I can send it as an attachment. Hope this helps Elaine --------------------------------- Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 February 22, 2007 (Thursday) Community Information Night: Beyond Labels: Neurodevelopmental Perspectives on Behavior and Learning Location: Dunwoody Springs Office Center Suite B-90 (Juice Plus) 6160 Peachtree Dunwoody Road Atlanta Ga. 30328 Time: 7:00 PM - 9:00 PM Course Fee: FREE Information: Presented by Judith Bluestone, founder of the HANDLE Institute and developer of the HANDLE approach. For directions, contact : # 770-458-5619, The HANDLE Institute provides an effective, non-drug alternative for identifying and treating most neurodevelopmental disorders across the lifespan including Autism, ADD, ADHD, Dyslexia and Tourette's Syndrome. HANDLE incorporates research and techniques from many disciplines. It includes principles and perspectives from medicine, rehabilitation, psychology, education and nutrition. It is founded on an interactive, developmental model of human functioning. The HANDLE Institute International, LLC offers clinical services, community information, and professional training programs. http://www.handle. org/ Flyer for tonight's program attached dlacey@... wrote: I am anxious to hear from anyone whose seizures, especially children's, have been reduced or eliminated after hyperbaric treatments. Thanks, Lacey, MD, PhD Department of Neurology Dayton Children's Medical Center -------------- Original message from medicaid : -------------- Medicaid for HBOT Messages In This Digest (4 Messages) 1. New Group From: rgominger 2. can HBO help this child From: rdbadge@... 3. FOCUS From: dfreels@... 4. Re: Dystonia/ Mitochondrial Dysfunction From: Mare Millon View All Topics | Create New Topic Messages 1. New Group Posted by: " rgominger " gominger@... rgominger Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:00 am (PST) If anyone is interested, there is a new group called Alternatives for Chronic Diseases. Troublemakers will be banned. The purpose of this group is to teach others about alternative therapies while learning about different therapies ourselves. Thank-you! altchronicdx/ Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (1) 2. can HBO help this child Posted by: " rdbadge@... " rdbadge@... accrusia Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:29 pm (PST) I am looking into finding my friend some info on HBO to see if it can help her son. The info below is about her son. has Hypolmelanosis of Ito. It is a nuerocutaneous disorder that affects the CNS. has seizures, hypotonia, scoliosis, asthma, osteoporosis & developmental delay. He functions on a 3-5 month old level. His MRI's show a pretty much normal brain. He has one ventrical a little larger than the other & the latest MRI showed more " white matter " than normal or changes in the white matter. Thanks Rita ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 Sharon- what are the credenials of whoever is presentng this? Who are the sponsors? Sue sharon lang <flipperlang@...> wrote: February 22, 2007 (Thursday) Community Information Night: Beyond Labels: Neurodevelopmental Perspectives on Behavior and Learning Location: Dunwoody Springs Office Center Suite B-90 (Juice Plus) 6160 Peachtree Dunwoody Road Atlanta Ga. 30328 Time: 7:00 PM - 9:00 PM Course Fee: FREE Information: Presented by Judith Bluestone, founder of the HANDLE Institute and developer of the HANDLE approach. For directions, contact : # 770-458-5619, The HANDLE Institute provides an effective, non-drug alternative for identifying and treating most neurodevelopmental disorders across the lifespan including Autism, ADD, ADHD, Dyslexia and Tourette's Syndrome. HANDLE incorporates research and techniques from many disciplines. It includes principles and perspectives from medicine, rehabilitation, psychology, education and nutrition. It is founded on an interactive, developmental model of human functioning. The HANDLE Institute International, LLC offers clinical services, community information, and professional training programs. http://www.handle. org/ Flyer for tonight's program attached dlacey@... wrote: I am anxious to hear from anyone whose seizures, especially children's, have been reduced or eliminated after hyperbaric treatments. Thanks, Lacey, MD, PhD Department of Neurology Dayton Children's Medical Center -------------- Original message from medicaid : -------------- Medicaid for HBOT Messages In This Digest (4 Messages) 1. New Group From: rgominger 2. can HBO help this child From: rdbadge@... 3. FOCUS From: dfreels@... 4. Re: Dystonia/ Mitochondrial Dysfunction From: Mare Millon View All Topics | Create New Topic Messages 1. New Group Posted by: " rgominger " gominger@... rgominger Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:00 am (PST) If anyone is interested, there is a new group called Alternatives for Chronic Diseases. Troublemakers will be banned. The purpose of this group is to teach others about alternative therapies while learning about different therapies ourselves. Thank-you! altchronicdx/ Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (1) 2. can HBO help this child Posted by: " rdbadge@... " rdbadge@... accrusia Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:29 pm (PST) I am looking into finding my friend some info on HBO to see if it can help her son. The info below is about her son. has Hypolmelanosis of Ito. It is a nuerocutaneous disorder that affects the CNS. has seizures, hypotonia, scoliosis, asthma, osteoporosis & developmental delay. He functions on a 3-5 month old level. His MRI's show a pretty much normal brain. He has one ventrical a little larger than the other & the latest MRI showed more " white matter " than normal or changes in the white matter. Thanks Rita ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 Yes, I ordered on Saturday and they charged my account yesterday so they are still shipping for now. Lynda G. > > Hi all. Just wanted to let everyone know that drugdelivery.ca sent me > an email letting me know that they will be able to continue shipping > hcg to the US. They had a cut-off date of 05/12, but they've worked > things out, at least for now. Good news for those of you who haven't > purchased yours yet or will need more later on. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 No easy fix, true BUT have you been able to rule out metabolic stuff behind any of this? Pam wrote: >I thought this mother's comments were interesting~ >Love, Mama > Baumann wrote: > > >>Interesting that this post happened today. >> >>I read this group since our youngest has apraxia/pdd-nos. Our middle >>child started with articulation issues (dealt with via early Childhood >>Special Education). Then his teacher suggested we have him tested via >>the schoold district for ASD. The district returned an educational dx >>(they cannot provide a medical dx) of Aspergers. We had him evaluated >>by a local Children's Hospital psychologist who just today told us >>that he is a quandry to her. He has a few markers that may indicate >>Aspergers, a few markers that indicate anxiety and a few markers that >>indicate a nonverbal learning disability. How is that for specificity? >> >>In response to your question, I have a few reactions... >>1. Yes, it is extremely frustrating. As the parent, my first reaction >>is to fall into the " find it so I can fix it " frame of mind. However I >>also need to remember that our son is a work in progress and I need to >>be open to all the opinions that are offered to me. I also need to >>remember that we, as a culture, know relatively very little about how >>the brain works and the reality of our world is that there probably is >>*no* easy fix for this stuff that confronts our kids. That totally >>sucks, but it is the truth. >>2. Regardless of the name given to how he learns, my focus (in my >>opinion) needs to be on what happens to him on a daily basis: do the >>therapies/interventions/modifications he encounters help him or hinder >>him? I am learning to ask the question, " what will that do to help >>him " when someone suggests we try something new. Concretely, with this >>new piece of information about nonverbal learning disability I plan on >>talking to his teacher at school this week before school starts (he is >>going into Kindergarten) to get her feedback on what resources he has >>avalible. Since he is identified as ASD in his IEP, what will be added >>or changed to accomodate this new information? Even though his >>educational dx is ASD and I have been told that isn't an accurate dx, >>the services he will receive under that dx won't hurt him, and are >>reasonable services for working with his probable nonverbal learning >>issues. As has been alluded to many times on this group--the issues we >>all are dealing >>with have MANY commonalities-even if they are not all the same from a >>label point of view, so when we talk to each other, and share our >>expreiences, we better help our children >>3. I need to be his advocate. There is no one else who has all the >>pieces to his puzzle except for me (and my big purple binder) so I >>need to let the right people know what they need to know to best help >>him. I am not his therapist, nor have I gone to school to be one. I am >>also not his doctor or his teacher. I am his mother and I have to both >>educate myself, but also rely on the information others give me to >>decide what is best for him--whether that be going GCFC, seeing a >>specialist, transitioning out of speech through the district or whatever. >> >>I hope that this helps you. I am sorry that I can't give a clear cut >>answer, but alas, we are not dealing with clear cut problems. Feel >>free to backchannel me for specifics of this never ending journey. >> >> Baumann >> >>--------------------------------- >>Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 Northern Region Sussex, Passaic, Bergen, Hudson, , Warren Day Session: December 7, 2007 Learning Resource Center 322 American Road Plains, NJ 07950 10:00 AM - 2:30 PM Evening Session: April 8, 2008 Public Library 274 Main Street Hackensack, NJ 07601 6:00 PM - 8:30 PM Saturday Session: December 8, 2007 Wayne Public Library 461 Valley Road Wayne, NJ 07470 10:30 AM - 1:00 PM Upper Central Region Union, Essex, Somerset Day Session: April 4, 2008 Learning Resource Center 7 Glenwood Avenue, 2nd Floor, Suite 201 East Orange, NJ 07017 10:00 AM - 2:30 PM Evening Session: May 7, 2008 Millburn Public Library 200 Glen Avenue Millburn, NJ 6:00 PM - 8:30 PM Saturday Session: March 8, 2008 Public Library 303 Westfield Avenue , NJ 07066 10:00 AM - 12:30 PM Lower Central Region Monmouth, Ocean, Mercer, Middlesex, Hunterdon Day Session: October 24, 2007 Learning Resource Center 2351 Route 130 South, Suite 3 Dayton, NJ 08810 10:00 AM - 2:30 PM Evening Session: May 13, 2008 North Hunterdon High School 1445 State Route 31 ndale, NJ 08801 6:00 PM - 8:30 PM Saturday Session: April 26, 2008 Arc of Monmouth 1158 Wayside Road Tinton Falls, NJ 07712 10:00 AM - 12:30 PM Southern Region Burlington, Camden, Gloucester, Cumberland, Salem, Atlantic, Cape May Day Session: December 14, 2007 Learning Resource Center 606 Delsea Drive Sewell, NJ 08080 10:00 AM - 2:30 PM Evening Session: March 11, 2008 Atlantic Community College 5100 Black Horse Pike Mays Landing, NJ 08330 6:00 PM - 8:30PM Saturday Session: September 29, 2007 Mullica Hills Library 389 Wolfert Station Road Mullica Hills, NJ 08062 10:00 AM - 12:30 PM fyi > FYI: > Pathways to Adult Life - Register Online Today! > The Division of Developmental Disabilities invites you to an Education and > Information Session for Pathways to Adult Life, click here for the > 2007-2008 > Statewide Schedule of Information Sessions. To learn more about Transition > Services and Self Direction for young adults transitioning from school to > adult > life, click here to view informational flyer. Students with developmental > disabilities age 14 -19 and their families are encouraged to attend. > Please register > online or by calling the Family Support Center at > (800)FSC-NJ10 or (800)372-6510. > > Margaret Hefferle > SPAN > START Project > Parent Support Group Specialist > 973 971-5313 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Izzadora: thanks for checking in. We will keep all in our prayers. Sending prayers & happy thoughts, Beth :-) fyi we are fine from the fires still good...im sleeppy...just fyi-- "I am not sick. I am broken. But I am happy as long as I can paint." --Frida Kahlo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Hi Abbe, Glad you are feeling balanced. Can you share what happened when you thought you were going to die? Do you have hashi? What did you do specifically in terms of supplements?? Also, are you on a special diet like Gluten Free or Vegan? Thanks!! MIchelle Abbe <abbe_online@...> wrote: Over the past two years, I've had many ups/downs trying to come into balance once again. I suffered a lot and at one point thought I might even die. I am now in balance. I have trusted my own sense of what I needed or did not need. In line with that I never took HC or any of the other products like it. I used iodine at a low dose for about 3 months and then stopped it. I had a very serious reaction to iodine when I stopped using it and notice now the same thing happens if I have some things with iodine in them, but since the dose is low the symptoms are not as bad. While I had this bad experience after stopping iodine, I still think it helped in turning my health around. I was supervised by my own physician while I took it. It was not his recommendation to stop, it was my own sense that stopping was the right thing for me to do. For most of the time I used iodine I was not using any thyroid replacement medication. I did use magnesium, celtic sea salt, and brazil nuts for selenium. While still on iodine, I began using Armour. It's been about a year and a half since I started. My most recent tests are all in the normal range and I feel fine. Except for a few supplements, Armour, in a low dose compared to what most people report taking, is all I use. Abbey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Abbe, I too, am so glad you are doing well. It is encouraging to know that there can be a light at the end of this very long and dark tunnel. I also have a question. You said you stopped the iodine. Can you tell me what symptoms you were having that made you stop or were your symptoms after you stopped? What were they? Venizia -- In hypothyroidism , and Irwin <familyirwin@...> wrote: > > Hi Abbe, > Glad you are feeling balanced. Can you share what happened when you thought you were going to die? Do you have hashi? What did you do specifically in terms of supplements?? > Also, are you on a special diet like Gluten Free or Vegan? > Thanks!! > MIchelle > > Abbe <abbe_online@...> wrote: > Over the past two years, I've had many ups/downs trying to come into > balance once again. I suffered a lot and at one point thought I might > even die. I am now in balance. > > I have trusted my own sense of what I needed or did not need. In line > with that I never took HC or any of the other products like it. I used > iodine at a low dose for about 3 months and then stopped it. I had a > very serious reaction to iodine when I stopped using it and notice now > the same thing happens if I have some things with iodine in them, but > since the dose is low the symptoms are not as bad. While I had this > bad experience after stopping iodine, I still think it helped in > turning my health around. I was supervised by my own physician while I > took it. It was not his recommendation to stop, it was my own sense > that stopping was the right thing for me to do. For most of the time I > used iodine I was not using any thyroid replacement medication. I did > use magnesium, celtic sea salt, and brazil nuts for selenium. > > While still on iodine, I began using Armour. It's been about a year > and a half since I started. My most recent tests are all in the normal > range and I feel fine. Except for a few supplements, Armour, in a low > dose compared to what most people report taking, is all I use. > > Abbey > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 > > Hi Abbe, > Glad you are feeling balanced. Can you share what happened when you thought you were going to die? Do you have hashi? What did you do specifically in terms of supplements?? > Also, are you on a special diet like Gluten Free or Vegan? > Thanks!! > MIchelle Diagnosed with Hashimoto's Thyroiditis approximately twenty years ago. On low dose of synthetic hormone replacement medication up to the point of crisis. Up to that point my health was excellent. At the crisis I was under extraordinary stress, which I think was what upset the balance. I went to the ER because I was unable to sit still or lay down. I mean I had to keep walking back/forth in my home. I kept hoping whatever it was would pass. At about 3:00 am, I decided it wasn't going to stop and I might be having a heart attack. On arriving at the ER, medical personnel apparently also thought I might be having a heart attack because they immediately hooked me up to monitors, etc. My blood pressure was 190. (I had low blood pressure all of my life). Numerous tests were taken, I was given a beta blocker. The beta blocker brought me down. When the results were in the ER doctor told me I had been 'poisoned' by the hormone replacement medication, to stop taking it and consult my doctor later that day. Following this, I was unable to take any hormone replacement without problems. I've never been so ill in my life. My heart went between racing, pounding, *no* energy, swelling of ankles. Many reactions to different foods and supplements. I went from someone who was very healthy, high energy and active, walking twice daily, doing weights every other day to not being able to do anything at all. I recall one evening meeting a friend in front of a restaurant for dinner and I thought I was not going to be able to stand. I had to call her to tell her I was going into the restaurant because I needed to sit down. Doctor(s) did not seem to understand what was happening to me and kept pushing the hormone replacement meds on me, which I could not tolerate. The thought occurred to me that I might be at the beginning of the end. That is, that I was going to die. Finally, I decided I would only do what I *sensed* was right for me. Thankfully, I found a doctor (endo) who was willing to superivise my efforts. I stopped taking any thyroid replacement for about three months. During that period I took 12.5 mg of an iodine product. It seemed, immediately, my health began to turn around. My energy improved. I had some digestive problems related to the iodine at first but took an oxygenated magnesium product and that resolved those problems. I also used brazil nuts for the selenium, B complex, C, and E. My TSH went up so high, the doctor required me to sign a release if I wanted to continue without thyroid replacement. At this point I started taking a very small dose of Armour and was able to tolerate it. It has taken about 1-1/2 years to get to a dose that is optimum for me and it is much, much lower than what most people on these lists report. All along I was on these lists reading others experiences. From the start, I had a strong *sense* not to take HC. My doctor had no problem with my using a bioidentical dose of it and gave me a script which I had filled, but I never took it because of my own *sense* that I should not. Now, I only take B complex, B12 sublingual, and magnesium. Prior to the crisis I was on a gluten free diet for many years and ate only chicken, occasionally fish. I ate lots of vegetables. No smoking, drinking, or drug use of any kind. I no longer eat that way. I mean I am not doing the gluten free diet, I do eat meat, and probably eat less vegetables than I did previously. Bascially, I'm eating what I *sense* I need now and not using any particular diet plan. Abbey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 > > Abbe, > > I too, am so glad you are doing well. It is encouraging to know that > there can be a light at the end of this very long and dark tunnel. I > also have a question. You said you stopped the iodine. Can you tell > me what symptoms you were having that made you stop or were your > symptoms after you stopped? What were they? > > > Venizia > Except for some digestive system problems when I started taking iodine, which were resolved with an oxygenated magnesium product no problems while taking the iodine. I stopped because my *sense* was that I should. My doctor had no problem at all with my continuing on it. I don't manage my health according to tests or any other person's ideas about what I should do. I manage it according to my inner *sense* of what is right for me. And I had a strong *sense* that I should stop taking iodine. The symptoms I had are listed in the instructions as indications to stop taking the product. But, I didn't have them while taking it, it was when I stopped. The symptoms were in both throat and sinus. My throat became so sore and glands so swollen in the beginning I had to take a little iodine to get relief before stopping completely. The sinus problem impacted my teeth. I had severe pain and went to the dentist. After examination he recommended a surgial procedure to remove a root. I was leaving on a trip and asked him for meds to control the problem until I returned when I would have the surgery. The pain meds barely impacted the pain and the antibiotics screwed up my system. Within, about two weeks, however, the problem resolved and I thought this too may have been related to stopping the iodine. That trip, stood in the way of my having unnecessary surgery. This is two years later and I have had no dental problem. What confirmed for me that these problems were caused by iodine (in some form) is several experiences following when I ingested iodine in foods and would have the same reaction, except milder, of course and it would take about two weeks to resolve. Abbey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Hi Abbey, Thanks for your reply. Yes, it is scarey when our bodies are screaming at us. It is good that you had that 'still small voice' and listened. It sounds like it really paid off for you. I think we should all listen to our 'gut' more often. Glad you are feeling better, Blessings, Abbe <abbe_online@...> wrote: > > Hi Abbe, > Glad you are feeling balanced. Can you share what happened when you thought you were going to die? Do you have hashi? What did you do specifically in terms of supplements?? > Also, are you on a special diet like Gluten Free or Vegan? > Thanks!! > MIchelle Diagnosed with Hashimoto's Thyroiditis approximately twenty years ago. On low dose of synthetic hormone replacement medication up to the point of crisis. Up to that point my health was excellent. At the crisis I was under extraordinary stress, which I think was what upset the balance. I went to the ER because I was unable to sit still or lay down. I mean I had to keep walking back/forth in my home. I kept hoping whatever it was would pass. At about 3:00 am, I decided it wasn't going to stop and I might be having a heart attack. On arriving at the ER, medical personnel apparently also thought I might be having a heart attack because they immediately hooked me up to monitors, etc. My blood pressure was 190. (I had low blood pressure all of my life). Numerous tests were taken, I was given a beta blocker. The beta blocker brought me down. When the results were in the ER doctor told me I had been 'poisoned' by the hormone replacement medication, to stop taking it and consult my doctor later that day. Following this, I was unable to take any hormone replacement without problems. I've never been so ill in my life. My heart went between racing, pounding, *no* energy, swelling of ankles. Many reactions to different foods and supplements. I went from someone who was very healthy, high energy and active, walking twice daily, doing weights every other day to not being able to do anything at all. I recall one evening meeting a friend in front of a restaurant for dinner and I thought I was not going to be able to stand. I had to call her to tell her I was going into the restaurant because I needed to sit down. Doctor(s) did not seem to understand what was happening to me and kept pushing the hormone replacement meds on me, which I could not tolerate. The thought occurred to me that I might be at the beginning of the end. That is, that I was going to die. Finally, I decided I would only do what I *sensed* was right for me. Thankfully, I found a doctor (endo) who was willing to superivise my efforts. I stopped taking any thyroid replacement for about three months. During that period I took 12.5 mg of an iodine product. It seemed, immediately, my health began to turn around. My energy improved. I had some digestive problems related to the iodine at first but took an oxygenated magnesium product and that resolved those problems. I also used brazil nuts for the selenium, B complex, C, and E. My TSH went up so high, the doctor required me to sign a release if I wanted to continue without thyroid replacement. At this point I started taking a very small dose of Armour and was able to tolerate it. It has taken about 1-1/2 years to get to a dose that is optimum for me and it is much, much lower than what most people on these lists report. All along I was on these lists reading others experiences. From the start, I had a strong *sense* not to take HC. My doctor had no problem with my using a bioidentical dose of it and gave me a script which I had filled, but I never took it because of my own *sense* that I should not. Now, I only take B complex, B12 sublingual, and magnesium. Prior to the crisis I was on a gluten free diet for many years and ate only chicken, occasionally fish. I ate lots of vegetables. No smoking, drinking, or drug use of any kind. I no longer eat that way. I mean I am not doing the gluten free diet, I do eat meat, and probably eat less vegetables than I did previously. Bascially, I'm eating what I *sense* I need now and not using any particular diet plan. Abbey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 So I would say you are allergic to iodine, would you ? Bev > Except for some digestive system problems when I started taking > iodine, which were resolved with an oxygenated magnesium product no > problems while taking the iodine. I stopped because my *sense* was > that I should. My doctor had no problem at all with my continuing on > it. I don't manage my health according to tests or any other > person's ideas about what I should do. I manage it according to my > inner *sense* of what is right for me. And I had a strong *sense* > that I should stop taking iodine. > > The symptoms I had are listed in the instructions as indications to > stop taking the product. But, I didn't have them while taking it, it > was when I stopped. > > The symptoms were in both throat and sinus. My throat became so sore > and glands so swollen in the beginning I had to take a little iodine > to get relief before stopping completely. The sinus problem impacted > my teeth. I had severe pain and went to the dentist. After > examination he recommended a surgial procedure to remove a root. I > was leaving on a trip and asked him for meds to control the problem > until I returned when I would have the surgery. The pain meds barely > impacted the pain and the antibiotics screwed up my system. Within, > about two weeks, however, the problem resolved and I thought this too > may have been related to stopping the iodine. That trip, stood in > the way of my having unnecessary surgery. > > This is two years later and I have had no dental problem. What > confirmed for me that these problems were caused by iodine (in some > form) is several experiences following when I ingested iodine in > foods and would have the same reaction, except milder, of course and > it would take about two weeks to resolve. > > Abbey > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Wow Abbe, fascinating, thank you for sharing. Something that I noticed that you wrote was that you had problems with foods and supplements. I too have that and what I found out is that I have a sulfite sensitivity (sorry to those that have heard this before) I have to watch VERY carefully what I eat and any meds or supplements I take, I call the companies to make sure there are no sulfites. They do not have to list them if they are less than 10 parts per million or billion (sorry don't remember right now) but even that amount is a problem for me. Now even a multiple vitamin can be a problem for me if it includes Biotin....it has sulfites. So, it is very difficult to sort all this out but if you think this is your problem there is a group where you can find out so much more. If you are interested, nomoresulfites Venizia -- In hypothyroidism , " Abbe " <abbe_online@...> wrote: > > > > > > Abbe, > > > > I too, am so glad you are doing well. It is encouraging to know > that > > there can be a light at the end of this very long and dark tunnel. > I > > also have a question. You said you stopped the iodine. Can you tell > > me what symptoms you were having that made you stop or were your > > symptoms after you stopped? What were they? > > > > > > Venizia > > > > > Except for some digestive system problems when I started taking > iodine, which were resolved with an oxygenated magnesium product no > problems while taking the iodine. I stopped because my *sense* was > that I should. My doctor had no problem at all with my continuing on > it. I don't manage my health according to tests or any other > person's ideas about what I should do. I manage it according to my > inner *sense* of what is right for me. And I had a strong *sense* > that I should stop taking iodine. > > The symptoms I had are listed in the instructions as indications to > stop taking the product. But, I didn't have them while taking it, it > was when I stopped. > > The symptoms were in both throat and sinus. My throat became so sore > and glands so swollen in the beginning I had to take a little iodine > to get relief before stopping completely. The sinus problem impacted > my teeth. I had severe pain and went to the dentist. After > examination he recommended a surgial procedure to remove a root. I > was leaving on a trip and asked him for meds to control the problem > until I returned when I would have the surgery. The pain meds barely > impacted the pain and the antibiotics screwed up my system. Within, > about two weeks, however, the problem resolved and I thought this too > may have been related to stopping the iodine. That trip, stood in > the way of my having unnecessary surgery. > > This is two years later and I have had no dental problem. What > confirmed for me that these problems were caused by iodine (in some > form) is several experiences following when I ingested iodine in > foods and would have the same reaction, except milder, of course and > it would take about two weeks to resolve. > > Abbey > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 > > So I would say you are allergic to iodine, would you ? > Bev > Well, I don't know. The reaction I have is not the same as the allergic reactions I have experienced. I have updated my emergency medical information, noting I *may* be allergic to it and pointing out that iodine based products are often used as scrubs in surgical procedures. It seemed to me, if I was in that bad of a condition that emergency surgery was required, having to cope with what happens to me from iodine *now* would just make things worse. I write *now* because as a child my mother used iodine on my scrapes and cuts and I didn't have reaction then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 > > Wow Abbe, fascinating, thank you for sharing. > > Something that I noticed that you wrote was that you had problems with > foods and supplements. I too have that and what I found out is that I > have a sulfite sensitivity (sorry to those that have heard this > before) I have to watch VERY carefully what I eat and any meds or > supplements I take, I call the companies to make sure there are no > sulfites. They do not have to list them if they are less than 10 > parts per million or billion (sorry don't remember right now) but even > that amount is a problem for me. Now even a multiple vitamin can be a > problem for me if it includes Biotin....it has sulfites. So, it is > very difficult to sort all this out but if you think this is your > problem there is a group where you can find out so much more. If > you are interested, nomoresulfites > > Venizia Thank you. One of the things I've noticed is I can become sensitive to things and then after a while it passes and I'm not sensitive to it any more. Strange. During my crisis period I simply could not tolerate calcium supplements, even mixed with magnesium in the right proportion. I read up on thyroid and issues with calcium but did not identify any of the symptoms. Now, I see some very recent *scientific* research (see news) indicating people who took calcium supplements in their study had heart attacks more often than those who did not. I'd like to think and inability to tolerate some thing is my body saying no good for you. I suspected *sulfur* at one point but did not identify with any of the symptoms that go with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 The iodine used on scrapes and things as a child had alcohol in it. I don't think it does now. Roni Abbe <abbe_online@...> wrote: > > So I would say you are allergic to iodine, would you ? > Bev > Well, I don't know. The reaction I have is not the same as the allergic reactions I have experienced. I have updated my emergency medical information, noting I *may* be allergic to it and pointing out that iodine based products are often used as scrubs in surgical procedures. It seemed to me, if I was in that bad of a condition that emergency surgery was required, having to cope with what happens to me from iodine *now* would just make things worse. I write *now* because as a child my mother used iodine on my scrapes and cuts and I didn't have reaction then. --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 My allergy doc. said that an allergy can come at any time. Bev > > > > So I would say you are allergic to iodine, would you ? > > Bev > > > > > Well, I don't know. > > The reaction I have is not the same as the allergic reactions I have > experienced. > > I have updated my emergency medical information, noting I *may* be > allergic to it and pointing out that iodine based products are often > used as scrubs in surgical procedures. > > It seemed to me, if I was in that bad of a condition that emergency > surgery was required, having to cope with what happens to me from > iodine *now* would just make things worse. I write *now* because as > a child my mother used iodine on my scrapes and cuts and I didn't > have reaction then. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 > > The iodine used on scrapes and things as a child had alcohol in it. I don't think it > does now. > > Roni Not sure about back then, but a bottle of topical iodine I have now is 47% alcohol by volume and I think I had a reaction to that *too* about 6 months ago when I used it for an insect bite. It did not occur to me that I was reacting to alcohol. I have often put rubbing alcohol on muscles after unusal workouts and never had a reaction to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 > > My allergy doc. said that an allergy can come at any time. > Bev That's true, but my point was that my reaction was *not* like allergic reactions I've had. The impact, from my view, was more systemic and/or organ related. I don't know if such a reaction counts as allergic reaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Sorry, my thyroid has my mind and I don't even remember what this is about... Bev > > My allergy doc. said that an allergy can come at any time. > > Bev > > > That's true, but my point was that my reaction was *not* like allergic > reactions I've had. The impact, from my view, was more systemic and/or > organ related. I don't know if such a reaction counts as allergic > reaction. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Allergies and sensitivities show up suddenly, and you don't have to have a history of that substance bothering you previously. As a person with environmental allergies myself, I can well understand the confusion and concern. I would suggest you keep benedryl (over the counter) with you at all times, in case you need it. Roni Abbe <abbe_online@...> wrote: > > The iodine used on scrapes and things as a child had alcohol in it. I don't think it > does now. > > Roni Not sure about back then, but a bottle of topical iodine I have now is 47% alcohol by volume and I think I had a reaction to that *too* about 6 months ago when I used it for an insect bite. It did not occur to me that I was reacting to alcohol. I have often put rubbing alcohol on muscles after unusal workouts and never had a reaction to that. --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 I have had both kinds of reactions. It seems to depend on the severity of the exposure. Roni Abbe <abbe_online@...> wrote: > > My allergy doc. said that an allergy can come at any time. > Bev That's true, but my point was that my reaction was *not* like allergic reactions I've had. The impact, from my view, was more systemic and/or organ related. I don't know if such a reaction counts as allergic reaction. --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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