FYI

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From: natasha x <ladysweetsky@...>Subject: Re: FYIno-forced-vaccination Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 5:45 PM

Military Planning For Possible H1N1 Outbreakh1n1The U.S. military wants to establish regional teams of military personnel to assist civilian authorities in the event of a significant outbreak of the H1N1 virus this fall, according to Defense Department officials.The proposal is awaiting final approval from Defense Secretary Gates.The officials would not be identified because the proposal from U.S. Northern Command's Gen. Victor Renuart has not been approved by the secretary.The plan calls for military task forces to work in conjunction with the Federal Emergency Management Agency. There is no final decision on how the military effort would be manned, but one source said it would likely include personnel from all branches of the military.Don't Miss* U.S. students face second quarantine in China* School: No shortage of volunteers for swine flu trialsIt has yet to be determined how

many troops would be needed and whether they would come from the active duty or the National Guard and Reserve forces.Civilian authorities would lead any relief efforts in the event of a major outbreak, the official said. The military, as they would for a natural disaster or other significant emergency situation, could provide support and fulfill any tasks that civilian authorities could not, such as air transport or testing of large numbers of viral samples from infected patients.SourceThis story comes to us via Homeland Security - National Terror Alert. National Terror Alert is America's trusted source for homeland security news and information.

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From: natasha x <ladysweetsky@...>Subject: Re: FYIno-forced-vaccination Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 5:45 PM

Military Planning For Possible H1N1 Outbreakh1n1The U.S. military wants to establish regional teams of military personnel to assist civilian authorities in the event of a significant outbreak of the H1N1 virus this fall, according to Defense Department officials.The proposal is awaiting final approval from Defense Secretary Gates.The officials would not be identified because the proposal from U.S. Northern Command's Gen. Victor Renuart has not been approved by the secretary.The plan calls for military task forces to work in conjunction with the Federal Emergency Management Agency. There is no final decision on how the military effort would be manned, but one source said it would likely include personnel from all branches of the military.Don't Miss* U.S. students face second quarantine in China* School: No shortage of volunteers for swine flu trialsIt has yet to be determined how

many troops would be needed and whether they would come from the active duty or the National Guard and Reserve forces.Civilian authorities would lead any relief efforts in the event of a major outbreak, the official said. The military, as they would for a natural disaster or other significant emergency situation, could provide support and fulfill any tasks that civilian authorities could not, such as air transport or testing of large numbers of viral samples from infected patients.SourceThis story comes to us via Homeland Security - National Terror Alert. National Terror Alert is America's trusted source for homeland security news and information.

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On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 5:45 PM, natasha x <ladysweetsky@...> wrote:

 

Military Planning For Possible H1N1 Outbreakh1n1The U.S. military wants to establish regional teams of military personnel to assist civilian authorities in the event of a significant outbreak of the H1N1 virus this fall, according to Defense Department officials.

The proposal is awaiting final approval from Defense Secretary Gates.The officials would not be identified because the proposal from U.S. Northern Command's Gen. Victor Renuart has not been approved by the secretary.

The plan calls for military task forces to work in conjunction with the Federal Emergency Management Agency. There is no final decision on how the military effort would be manned, but one source said it would likely include personnel from all branches of the military.

Don't Miss* U.S. students face second quarantine in China* School: No shortage of volunteers for swine flu trialsIt has yet to be determined how many troops would be needed and whether they would come from the active duty or the National Guard and Reserve forces.

Civilian authorities would lead any relief efforts in the event of a major outbreak, the official said. The military, as they would for a natural disaster or other significant emergency situation, could provide support and fulfill any tasks that civilian authorities could not, such as air transport or testing of large numbers of viral samples from infected patients.

SourceThis story comes to us via Homeland Security - National Terror Alert. National Terror Alert is America's trusted source for homeland security news and information.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for sharing this. When I asked my son's teacher about observing my son's

classroom I was discouraged. I have never felt welcome since.

>

> New Illinois State Law Gives Parents and Independent Evaluators the Right to

Observe the Student's Current and Proposed Programs 

>      Governor Quinn has signed HB  628, (105 ILCS 5/14-8.02 (g) (5))

which amends the Illinois School Code to allow parents, as well as their

independent evaluators or other qualified professionals, to have " reasonable

access " to their child's classroom, facilities, and personnel, including the

right to observe the class and program and to meet and talk with school staff

working with the student.  These observations must be consistent with school

visitation policies.  However, the school policies cannot conflict with the new

statute.   In addition, the new law allows not only for observation of the

child's current program, but of any program proposed for the student.   The

specific language of the new law can be found thru this link:   

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/billstatus.asp?DocNum=628 & GAID=10 & GA=96 & DocTypeI\

D=HB & LegID=41403 & SessionID=76

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for sharing this. When I asked my son's teacher about observing my son's

classroom I was discouraged. I have never felt welcome since.

>

> New Illinois State Law Gives Parents and Independent Evaluators the Right to

Observe the Student's Current and Proposed Programs 

>      Governor Quinn has signed HB  628, (105 ILCS 5/14-8.02 (g) (5))

which amends the Illinois School Code to allow parents, as well as their

independent evaluators or other qualified professionals, to have " reasonable

access " to their child's classroom, facilities, and personnel, including the

right to observe the class and program and to meet and talk with school staff

working with the student.  These observations must be consistent with school

visitation policies.  However, the school policies cannot conflict with the new

statute.   In addition, the new law allows not only for observation of the

child's current program, but of any program proposed for the student.   The

specific language of the new law can be found thru this link:   

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/billstatus.asp?DocNum=628 & GAID=10 & GA=96 & DocTypeI\

D=HB & LegID=41403 & SessionID=76

>

>

[Guest guest]

Wel, I've always observed current and future classrooms without any challenge, I

didn't realize it wasn't the law before, that's where this HIPAA thing goes

really overboard, they don't want you to see any one elses kid!

H.

Re: fyi

Thanks for sharing this. When I asked my son's teacher about observing my son's

classroom I was discouraged. I have never felt welcome since.

>

> New Illinois State Law Gives Parents and Independent Evaluators the Right to

Observe the Student's Current and Proposed Programs?

> ???? Governor Quinn has signed HB? 628, (105 ILCS 5/14-8.02 (g) (5))

which amends the Illinois School Code to allow parents, as well as their

independent evaluators or other qualified professionals, to have " reasonable

access " to their child's classroom, facilities, and personnel, including the

right to observe the class and program and to meet and talk with school staff

working with the student.? These observations must be consistent with school

visitation policies.? However, the school policies cannot conflict with the new

statute.?? In addition, the new law allows not only for observation of the

child's current program, but of any program proposed for the student.?? The

specific language of the new law can be found thru this link:???

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/billstatus.asp?DocNum=628 & GAID=10 & GA=96 & DocTypeI\

D=HB & LegID=41403 & SessionID=76

>

>

[Guest guest]

Wel, I've always observed current and future classrooms without any challenge, I

didn't realize it wasn't the law before, that's where this HIPAA thing goes

really overboard, they don't want you to see any one elses kid!

H.

Re: fyi

Thanks for sharing this. When I asked my son's teacher about observing my son's

classroom I was discouraged. I have never felt welcome since.

>

> New Illinois State Law Gives Parents and Independent Evaluators the Right to

Observe the Student's Current and Proposed Programs?

> ???? Governor Quinn has signed HB? 628, (105 ILCS 5/14-8.02 (g) (5))

which amends the Illinois School Code to allow parents, as well as their

independent evaluators or other qualified professionals, to have " reasonable

access " to their child's classroom, facilities, and personnel, including the

right to observe the class and program and to meet and talk with school staff

working with the student.? These observations must be consistent with school

visitation policies.? However, the school policies cannot conflict with the new

statute.?? In addition, the new law allows not only for observation of the

child's current program, but of any program proposed for the student.?? The

specific language of the new law can be found thru this link:???

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/billstatus.asp?DocNum=628 & GAID=10 & GA=96 & DocTypeI\

D=HB & LegID=41403 & SessionID=76

>

>

[Guest guest]

This is one way for a techer to get a dedicatede room mother. Volunteer to

decorate the classroom or make copies... One concern , a family was moving

from their house in the city and wanted to make a correct choice in the

suburbs. Some of the suburban schools let the parents obseve the high

schhols with nor issue, others said the only way they would allow observatin

is if the parents had a 'to buy' contract in the school district. How does

one know they want to buy in an area unless they view the school. Anyone

out in IPADD know how the law impacts ovserving for a potential move in.

This HIPA is such silly stuff...especially since all our information has

been broadcast to the unions. Wonder if we want to observe a school we file

a Freedo m of info request. ARGH!!

[Guest guest]

This is one way for a techer to get a dedicatede room mother. Volunteer to

decorate the classroom or make copies... One concern , a family was moving

from their house in the city and wanted to make a correct choice in the

suburbs. Some of the suburban schools let the parents obseve the high

schhols with nor issue, others said the only way they would allow observatin

is if the parents had a 'to buy' contract in the school district. How does

one know they want to buy in an area unless they view the school. Anyone

out in IPADD know how the law impacts ovserving for a potential move in.

This HIPA is such silly stuff...especially since all our information has

been broadcast to the unions. Wonder if we want to observe a school we file

a Freedo m of info request. ARGH!!

[Guest guest]

The reasons that districts give are not always the whole story.  Privacy rights

of other kids are partly an excuse by school district lawyers.

For some kids, having the parent in the room changes how the kid

behaves--sometimes better, sometimes worse, generally distracted--and this is

true of all kids, disabled or not.

In some spec ed classrooms, any visitor is going to be very disruptive to

students who are difficult to manage when the routine is different.

For elementary, the easy option is to be room mom.  For older grades, there are

sometimes options to participate as an Art Smart visitor, or school volunteer. 

The more often you are in the building as a helper, the more favorably staff

will view you.

However, I do think at the high school level it is harder to get a good view. 

For my son, he had a variety of teachers, some spec ed and some not.  What was

an issue in my district was that no one was allowed to tell a regular ed teacher

that a kid was disabled and/or had an IEP without the parent's permission.  I

found this out a couple of months into freshman year.

Neal's case manager/English teacher was a gem, and after learning this, I

emailed her at the start of every school year, telling her that she had blanket

permission to " explain " Neal to any teacher he interacted with.

When it comes to viewing a prospective classroom, what they are very

worried about is a parent lobbying for her kid to be placed in a

classroom that's a bad fit.  I actually got around this one and was

able to visit some classrooms before Neal got to them, by pointing out

that I did not want him in a classroom that was not a good fit.   In some cases,

that meant being willing to visit a classroom that I thought wasn't going to

work, in order to get to see another.

For people wishing to go see classrooms in a district they don't (yet) live in,

I think the best way to get the low-down is to ask around on online forums, or

start calling friends to network.  The districts haven't met your kid and

haven't seen his IEP.  They have no clue, other than your word, as to what your

kid's abilities are.  (For that matter, they can't be sure that you have a kid

that age...You could be a reporter wanting to do an expose.)  Districts with

more than one high school do not always run the exact same programs in each

school. 

We moved between Neal's first grade and second grade years.  After calling a few

friends in nearby towns, we decided that we were just as well off with the

district that we knew, and so we moved within district.

-Gail

From: Cindi Swanson <cbswanson@...>

Subject: Re: Re: fyi

IPADDUnite

Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 7:39 AM

 

This is one way for a techer to get a dedicatede room mother.

Volunteer to

decorate the classroom or make copies... One concern , a family was moving

from their house in the city and wanted to make a correct choice in the

suburbs. Some of the suburban schools let the parents obseve the high

schhols with nor issue, others said the only way they would allow observatin

is if the parents had a 'to buy' contract in the school district. How does

one know they want to buy in an area unless they view the school. Anyone

out in IPADD know how the law impacts ovserving for a potential move in.

This HIPA is such silly stuff...especially since all our information has

been broadcast to the unions. Wonder if we want to observe a school we file

a Freedo m of info request. ARGH!!

[Guest guest]

The reasons that districts give are not always the whole story.  Privacy rights

of other kids are partly an excuse by school district lawyers.

For some kids, having the parent in the room changes how the kid

behaves--sometimes better, sometimes worse, generally distracted--and this is

true of all kids, disabled or not.

In some spec ed classrooms, any visitor is going to be very disruptive to

students who are difficult to manage when the routine is different.

For elementary, the easy option is to be room mom.  For older grades, there are

sometimes options to participate as an Art Smart visitor, or school volunteer. 

The more often you are in the building as a helper, the more favorably staff

will view you.

However, I do think at the high school level it is harder to get a good view. 

For my son, he had a variety of teachers, some spec ed and some not.  What was

an issue in my district was that no one was allowed to tell a regular ed teacher

that a kid was disabled and/or had an IEP without the parent's permission.  I

found this out a couple of months into freshman year.

Neal's case manager/English teacher was a gem, and after learning this, I

emailed her at the start of every school year, telling her that she had blanket

permission to " explain " Neal to any teacher he interacted with.

When it comes to viewing a prospective classroom, what they are very

worried about is a parent lobbying for her kid to be placed in a

classroom that's a bad fit.  I actually got around this one and was

able to visit some classrooms before Neal got to them, by pointing out

that I did not want him in a classroom that was not a good fit.   In some cases,

that meant being willing to visit a classroom that I thought wasn't going to

work, in order to get to see another.

For people wishing to go see classrooms in a district they don't (yet) live in,

I think the best way to get the low-down is to ask around on online forums, or

start calling friends to network.  The districts haven't met your kid and

haven't seen his IEP.  They have no clue, other than your word, as to what your

kid's abilities are.  (For that matter, they can't be sure that you have a kid

that age...You could be a reporter wanting to do an expose.)  Districts with

more than one high school do not always run the exact same programs in each

school. 

We moved between Neal's first grade and second grade years.  After calling a few

friends in nearby towns, we decided that we were just as well off with the

district that we knew, and so we moved within district.

-Gail

From: Cindi Swanson <cbswanson@...>

Subject: Re: Re: fyi

IPADDUnite

Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 7:39 AM

 

This is one way for a techer to get a dedicatede room mother.

Volunteer to

decorate the classroom or make copies... One concern , a family was moving

from their house in the city and wanted to make a correct choice in the

suburbs. Some of the suburban schools let the parents obseve the high

schhols with nor issue, others said the only way they would allow observatin

is if the parents had a 'to buy' contract in the school district. How does

one know they want to buy in an area unless they view the school. Anyone

out in IPADD know how the law impacts ovserving for a potential move in.

This HIPA is such silly stuff...especially since all our information has

been broadcast to the unions. Wonder if we want to observe a school we file

a Freedo m of info request. ARGH!!

[Guest guest]

It's not a HIPPA or anything that doesn't allow you to go into a program or

classroom, it is a school or teacher policy. Anytime I've had that thrown

in my face I marched right up to the principal's office and informed them

that in order for me to collaborate and be a good partner in my child's

education which was part of the school district's mission statement for a

" tradition of excellence " BAM I was in that classroom.

Don't let hurt feelings or anger prevent you from doing what you have a

right to do. Anytime they want our dollars or help with school projects the

door is wide open...it goes both ways.

Propheter

[Guest guest]

It's not a HIPPA or anything that doesn't allow you to go into a program or

classroom, it is a school or teacher policy. Anytime I've had that thrown

in my face I marched right up to the principal's office and informed them

that in order for me to collaborate and be a good partner in my child's

education which was part of the school district's mission statement for a

" tradition of excellence " BAM I was in that classroom.

Don't let hurt feelings or anger prevent you from doing what you have a

right to do. Anytime they want our dollars or help with school projects the

door is wide open...it goes both ways.

Propheter

[Guest guest]

Gail, you raise some valid points.  Whenever I am present, Angel's ready to go

home.  I've purposely have shown up at destinations of her field trips and

sometimes, she wanted to go home with me.

I agree that it's important to give parents the options to observe the

classroom.  I have noticed that staff in Angel's programs do not answer any

questions regarding the other students with the exception of the child's first

name.

From: Cindi Swanson <cbswansonjuno (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Re: fyi

IPADDUnite@gro ups.com

Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 7:39 AM

 

This is one way for a techer to get a dedicatede room mother. Volunteer to

decorate the classroom or make copies... One concern , a family was moving

from their house in the city and wanted to make a correct choice in the

suburbs. Some of the suburban schools let the parents obseve the high

schhols with nor issue, others said the only way they would allow observatin

is if the parents had a 'to buy' contract in the school district. How does

one know they want to buy in an area unless they view the school. Anyone

out in IPADD know how the law impacts ovserving for a potential move in.

This HIPA is such silly stuff...especially since all our information has

been broadcast to the unions. Wonder if we want to observe a school we file

a Freedo m of info request. ARGH!!

[Guest guest]

Gail, you raise some valid points.  Whenever I am present, Angel's ready to go

home.  I've purposely have shown up at destinations of her field trips and

sometimes, she wanted to go home with me.

I agree that it's important to give parents the options to observe the

classroom.  I have noticed that staff in Angel's programs do not answer any

questions regarding the other students with the exception of the child's first

name.

From: Cindi Swanson <cbswansonjuno (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Re: fyi

IPADDUnite@gro ups.com

Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 7:39 AM

 

This is one way for a techer to get a dedicatede room mother. Volunteer to

decorate the classroom or make copies... One concern , a family was moving

from their house in the city and wanted to make a correct choice in the

suburbs. Some of the suburban schools let the parents obseve the high

schhols with nor issue, others said the only way they would allow observatin

is if the parents had a 'to buy' contract in the school district. How does

one know they want to buy in an area unless they view the school. Anyone

out in IPADD know how the law impacts ovserving for a potential move in.

This HIPA is such silly stuff...especially since all our information has

been broadcast to the unions. Wonder if we want to observe a school we file

a Freedo m of info request. ARGH!!

[Guest guest]

To add to that note I always made it a huge effort to volunteer in

everything and roll up my sleeves in other areas, whether PTO, room mom or

whatever. When it came to getting into the High School level I actually had

more issues with that, but did go to higher levels to " get in the door " and

I also sent in an aide that was hand picked by me and I had developed a

great relationship with to take my child to the school to " view " and give

feedback. Incidently, we did not choose the high school in our

district...we went to another one where she thrived, graduated with High

Academic Honors and more importantly had the most amazing High School

experience that we wish all our " typical " kids would have.

[Guest guest]

To add to that note I always made it a huge effort to volunteer in

everything and roll up my sleeves in other areas, whether PTO, room mom or

whatever. When it came to getting into the High School level I actually had

more issues with that, but did go to higher levels to " get in the door " and

I also sent in an aide that was hand picked by me and I had developed a

great relationship with to take my child to the school to " view " and give

feedback. Incidently, we did not choose the high school in our

district...we went to another one where she thrived, graduated with High

Academic Honors and more importantly had the most amazing High School

experience that we wish all our " typical " kids would have.

[Guest guest]

Chris...I agree...being part of the system is so important. When teachers,

staff and administrators see you as useful and involved in helping them, they

will usually be much more open to helping you and your child in every way

possible.

One hand washes the other. For those who work long hours, there is usually some

way you can be involved, or perhaps a grandparent, aunt or uncle can take your

place in some volunteer capacity.

It really helps.

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskb@...

Re: fyi

To add to that note I always made it a huge effort to volunteer in

everything and roll up my sleeves in other areas, whether PTO, room mom or

whatever. When it came to getting into the High School level I actually had

more issues with that, but did go to higher levels to " get in the door " and

I also sent in an aide that was hand picked by me and I had developed a

great relationship with to take my child to the school to " view " and give

feedback. Incidently, we did not choose the high school in our

district...we went to another one where she thrived, graduated with High

Academic Honors and more importantly had the most amazing High School

experience that we wish all our " typical " kids would have.

[Guest guest]

Chris...I agree...being part of the system is so important. When teachers,

staff and administrators see you as useful and involved in helping them, they

will usually be much more open to helping you and your child in every way

possible.

One hand washes the other. For those who work long hours, there is usually some

way you can be involved, or perhaps a grandparent, aunt or uncle can take your

place in some volunteer capacity.

It really helps.

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskb@...

Re: fyi

To add to that note I always made it a huge effort to volunteer in

everything and roll up my sleeves in other areas, whether PTO, room mom or

whatever. When it came to getting into the High School level I actually had

more issues with that, but did go to higher levels to " get in the door " and

I also sent in an aide that was hand picked by me and I had developed a

great relationship with to take my child to the school to " view " and give

feedback. Incidently, we did not choose the high school in our

district...we went to another one where she thrived, graduated with High

Academic Honors and more importantly had the most amazing High School

experience that we wish all our " typical " kids would have.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for doing this! I think he deserves a Nobel prize for what his protocol

is doing for my boys. People who haven't seen them for a few months are amazed

at the change.

TJ

________________________________

From: homewithb <elizabethsoliday@...>

Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 9:08:22 AM

Subject: [ ] FYI

 

If you have anything you would like to add, please let me know. esolidaygmail (DOT)

com

Dear ,

Thank you for your nomination of Cutler for the NSB Public Service Award.

While was not selected for the 2009 award, his nomination will remain

under consideration for two more years (all nominations are considered for three

years, including the year of nomination). We encourage you to revisit your

nomination materials and submit any revisions or updates. There are two options

for revising or updating your nomination package:

1) Submit revisions or updates to me by email, indicating where they should be

inserted in the original nomination package.

2) Submit a complete new nomination package to me by email, or via NSF's

Fastlane website (https://www. fastlane. nsf.gov/fastlane .jsp).

Please visit http://www.nsf. gov/nsb/awards/ public.jsp for complete information

about the award, and feel free to contact me with any questions.

Best regards,

s

Executive Secretary, ad hoc Committee on Honorary Awards

National Science Board Office

National Science Foundation

Tel: (703) 292-4521

Fax: (703) 292-9008

jlricharnsf (DOT) gov

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Every now and then I speak up and comment after years of being on this list and

peeking in to see whats being discussed. The Cutler protocol is the only one I

would ever use on my child.He is going on 15 now .He's on the honor roll,a

linebacker for the school football team and just today I overheard him ask a

girl out.Andy should get a Nobel.Just my 2 cent input.

R

[Guest guest]

, thanks for posting this. We are just starting AC, we have one round

under our belt, and we love hearing stuff like this. Thank you.

>

> Hi,

> Every now and then I speak up and comment after years of being on this list

and peeking in to see whats being discussed. The Cutler protocol is the only one

I would ever use on my child.He is going on 15 now .He's on the honor roll,a

linebacker for the school football team and just today I overheard him ask a

girl out.Andy should get a Nobel.Just my 2 cent input.

> R

>

[Guest guest]

I agree with this. Our 5 yr old kid says or does something that amazes me every

day since starting AC protocol about a year ago. Tonight he said, " Look at

this! " and made a toy car go across the room. This was a kid who wouldn't even

pick up a toy car. Maggied.

>

> Hi,

> Every now and then I speak up and comment after years of being on this list

and peeking in to see whats being discussed. The Cutler protocol is the only one

I would ever use on my child.He is going on 15 now .He's on the honor roll,a

linebacker for the school football team and just today I overheard him ask a

girl out.Andy should get a Nobel.Just my 2 cent input.

> R

>

[Guest guest]

I personally think there's something weird going on with all these dessicated

thyroid meds. Something other than what they are saying must be happening

for so many people to have so many problems on meds that have been safe

for so many years. JMO

Roni

<>Just because something

isn't seen doesn't mean it's

not there<>

From: abbe_online <abbe_online@...>

Subject: FYI

hypothyroidism

Date: Monday, December 28, 2009, 2:20 PM

FYI

About 6 -8 weeks ago due to the Armour debacle,

I switched to Nature-Throid. In the beginning

myself and a few others had a problem with

Nature-Throid's coating on the pill which made

it difficult to take sublingually. Someone

said they would just run it around with their

tongue until it began to melt and I did the same

thing. I noted, though, it never did melt like

Armour did.

I was doing great for a while, better than when

on Armour, then all of a sudden I began to have

problems. I thought, once again, I had become

resistant to the meds. Cut down, but still had

the symptoms, stopped altogether for three days

and went in for testing. My TSH was over 20.

I know from experience, it takes a lot longer

than a few days for a TSH to go up that high,

at least for me. I have concluded that I was

not getting enough med due to the way Nature-

throid is manufactured, that, if any, not

enough gets into my system. I started taking

it with food and so far I'm doing fine.

Just thought to let you all know this in case

anyone else is having difficulty with Nature-

Throid.

Abbey

------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

I had to go back to T4 only. I was getting worse on the Armour and with the

Naturethroid out for so long and being pregnant I went back on it. I lost

weight even with being pregnant!

CW

-- FYI

FYI

About 6 -8 weeks ago due to the Armour debacle,

I switched to Nature-Throid. In the beginning

myself and a few others had a problem with

Nature-Throid's coating on the pill which made

it difficult to take sublingually. Someone

said they would just run it around with their

tongue until it began to melt and I did the same

thing. I noted, though, it never did melt like

Armour did.

I was doing great for a while, better than when

on Armour, then all of a sudden I began to have

problems. I thought, once again, I had become

resistant to the meds. Cut down, but still had

the symptoms, stopped altogether for three days

and went in for testing. My TSH was over 20.

I know from experience, it takes a lot longer

than a few days for a TSH to go up that high,

at least for me. I have concluded that I was

not getting enough med due to the way Nature-

throid is manufactured, that, if any, not

enough gets into my system. I started taking

it with food and so far I'm doing fine.

Just thought to let you all know this in case

anyone else is having difficulty with Nature-

Throid.

Abbey