Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Holy, cow! No wonder you feel terrible. Let me take some time and go through this and I will answer your questions. Do you have a saliva cortisol test too? Cheri -----Original Message----- Here's my recent labs, I've put some questions where I have NO CLUE what the stuff means? If anyone can help tell me what these mean or refer to, I would greatly appreciate it. THe doc said Im looking at at least three organs burnt out. Trying to find answers. Thanks. My Lipid Panal Triglycerides 281 H <150mg = WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? Cholesterol, Total 160 125-200mg HDL Cholesterol 49 >OR 40 mg LDL Cholesterol 55 <130mg (calc) Chol/HDLC Ratio 3.3 <OR 5.0(calc) GGT 15 3-40= WHATS THIS REFER TO?? A tricky one: Thanks all, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 My comments below on the ones out of range: -----Original Message----- THe doc said Im looking at at least three organs burnt out. Trying to find answers. Thanks. My Lipid Panel http://www.webmd.com/cholesterol-management/tc/lipid-panel-topic-overview Triglycerides 281 H <150mg = WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? That is the saturated fat found in your blood and yours is way too high. http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4778 a.. Having a high triglyceride level along with a high LDL cholesterol may increase your chances of having heart disease more than having only a high LDL cholesterol level. Some medical experts recommend routine cholesterol and triglyceride testing to screen for problems that affect the way cholesterol is produced, used, carried in the blood, or disposed of by the body. Others may choose to routinely measure only total cholesterol and HDL levels. b.. Thyroid Peroxidase 495 H <35 IU/ml= WHICH ANTODIES ARE THESE? Antibodies are attacking your thyroid aka Hashis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thyroid_peroxidase Reverse T3 27 11-32= Just in October my reverse t3 was through the roof- HOW CAN THIS CHANGE?? Ask about your ratio of T3 to Rt3...I don't know the method. Free T3 269 230-420 = ISN " T THIS LOW?? Yes, this is low Various Hormones Insulin 31 H <17= WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? Your pancreas is having major problems which means you have blood sugar issues. http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/003700.htm Progesterone 0.7 mid cycle ref range 4.4-28.0 You are EXTREMELY low in progesterone. Comp Metabolic Panal Stuff Bun/ Creatine 26 H 6-22= WHATS THIS MEAN OR REFER TO? Has to do with your kidney function: " Blood urea nitrogen (BUN) and creatinine tests can be used together to find the BUN-to-creatinine ratio (BUN:creatinine). " A BUN-to-creatinine ratio can help your doctor check for problems, such as dehydration, that may cause abnormal BUN and creatinine levels. http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/creatinine-and-creatinine-clearance Liboprotein < 10 <75nmol= WHATS THIS MEAN? *says it was verified by repeat analysis I think you mean " lipo " protein. Refers to fats in blood. Yours is very low. Not sure if that is a problem only know that high is a problem. I think this is related to your hepatitis since it is low in people with virus frequently. http://www.drlam.com/opinion/Lp(a).cfm Magnesium/ RBC= 3.2 L 4.0- 6.4mg= WHATS THIS MEAN?? Magnesium deficiency Hepatitis B surface Antibody QL= reactive = AHHHHHH!He didn't mention this! Does this mean there is Hep B in my system somewhere? YES and long term chronic hepatitis B destroys the liver. Thanks all, . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 No saliva yet. Im past the cycle time to do it. I'd be at day 25 instead of 18-21. Im going to ask the doc if he recommends doing it then. After all, around my period is when I feel my worse, we might see just how bad off I really am. Otherwise, I'll have to wait to spit until next month and save the money. > > Holy, cow! No wonder you feel terrible. Let me take some time and go through > this and I will answer your questions. Do you have a saliva cortisol test > too? > > Cheri > -----Original Message----- > > > > Here's my recent labs, I've put some questions where I have NO CLUE > what the stuff means? If anyone can help tell me what these mean or > refer to, I would greatly appreciate it. THe doc said Im looking at > at least three organs burnt out. Trying to find answers. Thanks. > > My Lipid Panal > Triglycerides 281 H <150mg = WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? > Cholesterol, Total 160 125-200mg > HDL Cholesterol 49 >OR 40 mg > LDL Cholesterol 55 <130mg (calc) > Chol/HDLC Ratio 3.3 <OR 5.0(calc) > GGT 15 3-40= WHATS THIS REFER TO?? > > A tricky one: > > > > Thanks all, > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 >>Reverse T3 27 11-32= Just in October my reverse t3 was through the roof- HOW CAN THIS CHANGE?? Ask about your ratio of T3 to Rt3...I don't know the method. Free T3 269 230-420 = ISN " T THIS LOW?? Yes, this is low<< Not sure why it lowered I would have t have your old T3/T4 labs t even guess, And what thyroid you are taking and were taking if any. Your ratio is still bad. STILL too muhc RT3 the ratio you have is 9.9 and should be 19 or hgher. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 WOw, thank you so much, you're awesome. I found out some stuff too myself. > Triglycerides I also found out can be high due to hypothyroidism which is me all the way. > Thyroid Peroxidase 495 H <35 IU/ml= WHICH ANTODIES ARE > THESE? > > Antibodies are attacking your thyroid aka Hashis: > > > > > > Insulin 31 H <17= > > Your pancreas is having major problems which means you have blood sugar > issues. ALL ME AGAIN!!! I have to eat every three hours at least to stop feeling extra weird. hypoglycemia right??? which is also linked to low cortisol/hypothyroidism. > > > Progesterone 0.7 mid cycle ref range 4.4-28.0 > > You are EXTREMELY low in progesterone. Well, the doc wants me to try Prometrium Progesterone supplements for 10 days out of my cycle next month, Im scared though this will straighten out on its own too once the cortisol and thryoid is fixed. But, if Im that low, supplements won't hurt me, right?? > > Bun/ Creatine 26 H 6-22= WHATS THIS MEAN OR REFER TO? > > Has to do with your kidney function: " Blood urea nitrogen (BUN) and THis scared the hooey out of me, because I always have flank pain...> .. > Magnesium/ RBC= 3.2 L 4.0- 6.4mg= WHATS THIS MEAN?? > Magnesium deficiency I also read it can be caused by hypothyroidism. GOt to supplement this ASAP!! > > Hepatitis B surface Antibody QL= reactive = AHHHHHH!He didn't mention > this! > Does this mean there is Hep B in my system somewhere? > > YES and long term chronic hepatitis B destroys the liver. > I read about this one, and it says that with that part being positive it only means that I have formed antibodies that sucessfully fought off the hep b virus, because I was injected with the hep b virus (aka vaccination). I will double check with the doc, but im pretty sure the reason only this one came up reactive was because of the vacination. I hate vaccinations!!! Does this mean I've got flu- swimming inside me because Ive had that too. What if my system fails, are all these viruses going to come to life again? Scary thought huh? Thank you so much. I want to know how he got the pituitary issues, my FSH, LH, PROLACTIN ,etc didnt look too low. Don't know, I'm nervous! Thanks again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 > > Free T3 269 230-420 = ISN " T THIS LOW?? Yes, this is low<< > > Not sure why it lowered I would have t have your old T3/T4 labs t even guess, And what thyroid you are taking and were taking if any. Your ratio is still bad. STILL too muhc RT3 the ratio you have is 9.9 and should be 19 or hgher. > > -- > My old labs done back then didnt include the free t3. I was shocked though. The whole time, I've been on 75mcg og levothyroxine crap. Weird huh? So, with my free t3 being that low, and free t4 being there (1.3 range 0.8-1.8), Can I start adding a little bit of Armour(like 1/2 grain) to my levo crap? Thats the docs suggestions. I just dont want too much t4. he wants me to start adding one grain to the levo, and then up and up and up and eventually take out the levo crap. I think starting with half a grain would be ok, or even 1/8 grain because of my low adrenals. Your advice based on these labs? THANKS, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 I would not do the progesterone pills but do a good quality cream instead. Yes, cortisol may help progesterone but I would also try the cream because adrenals need progesterone. Don't get the soy or wild yam, but actual progesterone cream. The pills have a lot more problems and since more than one organ is involved and you seem to have potential liver issues, I would avoid the pills which will only aggravate your liver. I am doing the cream again now and find it helps my cortisol. With the cream, there is a lot less potential for having problems, especially if you avoid fatty tissues where it can be stored. For me personally, progesterone cream has really helped and I am on the cheap wild yam form. Getting on Milk Thistle will help your liver and it is cheap. How long ago did you have the vaccination? Yes, it is antibodies but that is the point. The antibodies are fighting off HepB but they aren't a success if they still are showing up. A doc told me this in 1990 about my high white blood cell count and my swollen node. Well, the node continues to be swollen after 18 years and I instinctively knew the doc was wrong that having a high white blood count on more than one test and ongoing swollen nodes are indicative of something more. Too bad docs don't take our issues more seriously. Did you post FSH and them? I don't remember seeing that but yes, those are the ones that have to do with pituitary. So, what 3 organs did the doc say were failing? Cheri Re: My new Labs.... some concerns/ please help WOw, thank you so much, you're awesome. I found out some stuff too myself. > Triglycerides I also found out can be high due to hypothyroidism which is me all the way. > Thyroid Peroxidase 495 H <35 IU/ml= WHICH ANTODIES ARE > THESE? > > Antibodies are attacking your thyroid aka Hashis: > Insulin 31 H <17= > > Your pancreas is having major problems which means you have blood sugar > issues. ALL ME AGAIN!!! I have to eat every three hours at least to stop feeling extra weird. hypoglycemia right??? which is also linked to low cortisol/hypothyroidism. > > > Progesterone 0.7 mid cycle ref range 4.4-28.0 > > You are EXTREMELY low in progesterone. Well, the doc wants me to try Prometrium Progesterone supplements for 10 days out of my cycle next month, Im scared though this will straighten out on its own too once the cortisol and thryoid is fixed. But, if Im that low, supplements won't hurt me, right?? > > Bun/ Creatine 26 H 6-22= WHATS THIS MEAN OR REFER TO? > > Has to do with your kidney function: " Blood urea nitrogen (BUN) and THis scared the hooey out of me, because I always have flank pain...> . > Magnesium/ RBC= 3.2 L 4.0- 6.4mg= WHATS THIS MEAN?? > Magnesium deficiency I also read it can be caused by hypothyroidism. GOt to supplement this ASAP!! > > Hepatitis B surface Antibody QL= reactive = AHHHHHH!He didn't mention > this! > Does this mean there is Hep B in my system somewhere? > > YES and long term chronic hepatitis B destroys the liver. > I read about this one, and it says that with that part being positive it only means that I have formed antibodies that sucessfully fought off the hep b virus, because I was injected with the hep b virus (aka vaccination). I will double check with the doc, but im pretty sure the reason only this one came up reactive was because of the vacination. I hate vaccinations!!! Does this mean I've got flu- swimming inside me because Ive had that too. What if my system fails, are all these viruses going to come to life again? Scary thought huh? Thank you so much. I want to know how he got the pituitary issues, my FSH, LH, PROLACTIN ,etc didnt look too low. Don't know, I'm nervous! Thanks again! . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Armour can increase RT3 depending on your conversion and cellular resistant issues, especially with your low cortisol. I personally think you need to get on cortisol replacement first or you will further stress adrenals. Cheri -----Original Message----- So, with my free t3 being that low, and free t4 being there (1.3 range 0.8-1.8), Can I start adding a little bit of Armour(like 1/2 grain) to my levo crap? Thats the docs suggestions. I just dont want too much t4. he wants me to start adding one grain to the levo, and then up and up and up and eventually take out the levo crap. I think starting with half a grain would be ok, or even 1/8 grain because of my low adrenals. Your advice based on these labs? THANKS, . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 With the cream, there is a lot less > potential for having problems, especially if you avoid fatty tissues where > it can be stored. Where do I apply it?? > Getting on Milk Thistle will help your liver and it is cheap. > > How long ago did you have the vaccination? Yes, it is antibodies but that is > the point. The antibodies are fighting off HepB but they aren't a success if I had it years ago, like at least 4-7 years ago, it was the three part vacine. I will mention it to him. Or, do you know any further testing to find out if the Hep B virus is still active in you?? > > So, what 3 organs did the doc say were failing? he was very confusing said 3 were failing and listed 4, pituitary, thryoid, adrenal, and pineal. So, I'll be asking him this too. My FSH was 3.8 3.1-17.7 mid cycle range LH was 15.9 8.7- 76.3 mid cycle range- he marked this one Prolactin was 6.7 3.0-30.0 THanks again, Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 > > Armour can increase RT3 depending on your conversion and cellular resistant > issues, especially with your low cortisol. I personally think you need to > get on cortisol replacement first or you will further stress adrenals. > > Cheri True, I just really want to start Armour, I've been waiting forever. Hopefully he offers me Cortef again. I was hesitant before. He's starting me on a Vitamin regiman, maybe that will be enough. I cant wait till my follow up Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 I apply it to places where it gets into the blood stream easily like inner elbows, behind knees, etc. But any dry, thin skinned area will work. You can put it on fatty areas, but it tends to be stored so I only do that before I go to bed since it releases slower and can help with sleep. I don't know of further Hep testing. Maybe you can google for more info, but after 4 years if antibodies are still showing up, to me, that would be a concern. Sometimes vaccinations can actually cause the virus since a lot of vaccinations contain the virus of the thing they are trying to vaccinate against. Well known side effect of vaccinations. I definitely would google more on this. Definitely ask about how he knows about the pineal since none of your tests told me that. The others I can see. I think my pineal gland is full of toxins and shrank and would love to know how to address that. LH is on the low end but I really don't think those results indicate anything based on that only. Please share what he tells you when you talk to him. I am very curious about his analysis and how he arrived at it. Cheri -----Original Message----- Where do I apply it?? > > How long ago did you have the vaccination? Yes, it is antibodies but that is > the point. The antibodies are fighting off HepB but they aren't a success if I had it years ago, like at least 4-7 years ago, it was the three part vacine. I will mention it to him. Or, do you know any further testing to find out if the Hep B virus is still active in you?? THanks again, . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 If he offers you Cortef, get the prescription. You can always decide later if you want to use it but for how hard it is for the rest of us to get our docs to listen, you really want to take advantage and have that handy. Especially if you have an adrenal crisis down the road. Better safe then sorry and if you never need it, then you are no worse off. Something tells me you have a toxicity issue too, and they is why so many organs are in trouble. Have you ever had a hair test or other tests for things like heavy metal poisoning? Cheri -----Original Message----- True, I just really want to start Armour, I've been waiting forever. Hopefully he offers me Cortef again. I was hesitant before. He's starting me on a Vitamin regiman, maybe that will be enough. I cant wait till my follow up Monday. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Based on these labs I would start wiht no more than 1/4 grain of Armru but I would lower the Levo immediately as it is juts feeding the RT3. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 No, never had that. I wouldn't be surprised though. I have had fillings that are older. Also, I was quite the partier when younger. I'd be most interested. > > If he offers you Cortef, get the prescription. You can always decide later > if you want to use it but for how hard it is for the rest of us to get our > docs to listen, you really want to take advantage and have that handy. > Especially if you have an adrenal crisis down the road. Better safe then > sorry and if you never need it, then you are no worse off. > > Something tells me you have a toxicity issue too, and they is why so many > organs are in trouble. Have you ever had a hair test or other tests for > things like heavy metal poisoning? > > Cheri > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > True, I just really want to start Armour, I've been waiting forever. > Hopefully he offers me Cortef again. I was hesitant before. He's > starting me on a Vitamin regiman, maybe that will be enough. > I cant wait till my follow up Monday. > > > > > . > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Won't the armour feed the reverse t3 too seeing as how it contains t4 also? With my t3 that low, I thought my adrenals could handle a tad bit. Thanks > > Based on these labs I would start wiht no more than 1/4 grain of Armru > but I would lower the Levo immediately as it is juts feeding the RT3. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 >>Won't the armour feed the reverse t3 too seeing as how it contains t4 also? With my t3 that low, I thought my adrenals could handle a tad bit. << The Armoru MAY add to the RT3 but getting some thyroid in you when that low is advisable. With adrneals really low it is not a good time to try straight T3 as it can be really rough on the adrneas. Once you get good adrenal support in place it is a good idea ot recheck for RT3 then if needed you can go to all T3. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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