edema

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Hi Janet,

Glad you posted. This is a great group to find out info. Do you have the test

results. That

would be most helpful for any of us to recomend further treatment. I do get

swollen feet,

legs and ankles. This has greatly improved since I started Armour. Actually,

my whole

body was swollen and this is typical symptoms for hypoT. The other symptoms you

talk

about are also typical. If you can post your test results we can be more

helpful.

Venizia

>

> Hi. I have been a member for a while but I did not post. I have been

> taking my health for granted and I need to be more proactive

> especially about thyroid issues.I have hypothyroidism. I went to my

> primary care for TSH test. I have more water on my legs that I like.

> My mother has edema but she has a bad heart. Does anyone else with

> thyroid experience water in the lower ankles and legs?

> Also what do you do for weight loss? I need to increase my muscle but

> I am always taking a nap? I do not know if I am depressed or fatigued.

> The test results may help? What do you do for more energy? I am

> tempted to eat but I am just at the borderline for my height and do

> not want to gain any more weight?

>

[Guest guest]

You are in fact Paying for YOUR labs. Ask the lab to send a copy not only to

your physician but also to you at your home. Lab-Corp here in Delaware does

this all the time for me......BUT.... I have to ask them to do it EVERY time

I go.

In a message dated 10/5/2007 3:36:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

jwalker8869@... writes:

I had some lab work done recently but can't seem to get my

doc to send me a copy of my results. " they are busy " .

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Hi I've also been a member for a while but didn't post either.. I'm

having the same problem I've gained 20lbs in the past 6wks a total of

125-35 over the past 2yrs.Ive been hypO for the past 19 yrs along with

hashi's I was on synthroid which about killed me and recently started on

the natural T3 T4 in june of 06 lost 68lbs from june of o6 unitil april

of 07 then had surgery and totally relapsed and gained it all back

despite walking and going to curves not to mention chasing 4 kids

around.now I'm on 75mcg time released T3T4 and then straight T3 75mcg

at Noon then I crash about 6pm the fatique ,pain and sensitivity to

about everything,brainfog is unreal and the SOB I have other health

issues like Fibro/CFS Hypercoagulation, adrenal Insuff., Neurotoxicity

anyhoo.. I blow up like a blowfish I swell everywhere I have pockets of

fluid below my knees, and my body when you squeeze it looks like

spongebob (that's what my 3yr old calls me) I don't look human, it's

very very frustrating ... I drink water and gain weight so I pretty much

don't eat. I had some lab work done recently but can't seem to get my

doc to send me a copy of my results. " they are busy " . I love this group

eventhough It helps me mentally to read the other posts.

>

> Hi. I have been a member for a while but I did not post. I have been

> taking my health for granted and I need to be more proactive

> especially about thyroid issues.I have hypothyroidism. I went to my

> primary care for TSH test. I have more water on my legs that I like.

> My mother has edema but she has a bad heart. Does anyone else with

> thyroid experience water in the lower ankles and legs?

> Also what do you do for weight loss? I need to increase my muscle but

> I am always taking a nap? I do not know if I am depressed or fatigued.

> The test results may help? What do you do for more energy? I am

> tempted to eat but I am just at the borderline for my height and do

> not want to gain any more weight?

>

[Guest guest]

What do you mean by 75 mcg of time released T3T4? Is this a synthetic?

You need to change docs and changed quick! Get on Armour and if the doc

wont give it to you, you can get it yourself online. Your kids deserve all

of you. I know how hard having kids (I have 5) and being hypo and sick can

be. 75 mcg of anything is too little despite your labs. Increase now!!!!!

-- Re: edema

Hi I've also been a member for a while but didn't post either.. I'm

having the same problem I've gained 20lbs in the past 6wks a total of

125-35 over the past 2yrs.Ive been hypO for the past 19 yrs along with

hashi's I was on synthroid which about killed me and recently started on

the natural T3 T4 in june of 06 lost 68lbs from june of o6 unitil april

of 07 then had surgery and totally relapsed and gained it all back

despite walking and going to curves not to mention chasing 4 kids

around.now I'm on 75mcg time released T3T4 and then straight T3 75mcg

at Noon then I crash about 6pm the fatique ,pain and sensitivity to

about everything,brainfog is unreal and the SOB I have other health

issues like Fibro/CFS Hypercoagulation, adrenal Insuff., Neurotoxicity

anyhoo.. I blow up like a blowfish I swell everywhere I have pockets of

Fluid below my knees, and my body when you squeeze it looks like

spongebob (that's what my 3yr old calls me) I don't look human, it's

very very frustrating ... I drink water and gain weight so I pretty much

don't eat. I had some lab work done recently but can't seem to get my

doc to send me a copy of my results. " they are busy " . I love this group

eventhough It helps me mentally to read the other posts.

>

> Hi. I have been a member for a while but I did not post. I have been

> taking my health for granted and I need to be more proactive

> especially about thyroid issues.I have hypothyroidism. I went to my

> primary care for TSH test. I have more water on my legs that I like.

> My mother has edema but she has a bad heart. Does anyone else with

> thyroid experience water in the lower ankles and legs?

> Also what do you do for weight loss? I need to increase my muscle but

> I am always taking a nap? I do not know if I am depressed or fatigued.

> The test results may help? What do you do for more energy? I am

> tempted to eat but I am just at the borderline for my height and do

> not want to gain any more weight?

>

[Guest guest]

As far as I know we have a right to get all reports,

films, lab results and doctor and hospital records,

including itemitzed bills, even if our insurance pays

for the work.

Roni

--- AlanticLdy@... wrote:

>

> You are in fact Paying for YOUR labs. Ask the lab to

> send a copy not only to

> your physician but also to you at your home.

> Lab-Corp here in Delaware does

> this all the time for me......BUT.... I have to ask

> them to do it EVERY time

> I go.

>

> In a message dated 10/5/2007 3:36:35 PM Eastern

> Daylight Time,

> jwalker8869@... writes:

>

> I had some lab work done recently but can't seem to

> get my

> doc to send me a copy of my results. " they are

> busy " .

>

>

>

>

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this is rx T4/T3 THYROID SR (W) 75/75 MCG VEG CAPS it's natural i get it through

ITC compounding & natural wellness pharmacy. I take that at 6am with my cortisol

and then around noon I take TRIIODO-L-THYRONINE SOD S.R. (W) 75 MCG VEG CAPS I

feel half way decent until around 6 then I crash and crash hard. I have all

kinds of dosages from 2.5 to 3.5 I thought about taking them on my own around 6

and see what happens..

Joy L

Re: edema

Hi I've also been a member for a while but didn't post either.. I'm

having the same problem I've gained 20lbs in the past 6wks a total of

125-35 over the past 2yrs.Ive been hypO for the past 19 yrs along with

hashi's I was on synthroid which about killed me and recently started on

the natural T3 T4 in june of 06 lost 68lbs from june of o6 unitil april

of 07 then had surgery and totally relapsed and gained it all back

despite walking and going to curves not to mention chasing 4 kids

around.now I'm on 75mcg time released T3T4 and then straight T3 75mcg

at Noon then I crash about 6pm the fatique ,pain and sensitivity to

about everything,brainfog is unreal and the SOB I have other health

issues like Fibro/CFS Hypercoagulation, adrenal Insuff., Neurotoxicity

anyhoo.. I blow up like a blowfish I swell everywhere I have pockets of

Fluid below my knees, and my body when you squeeze it looks like

spongebob (that's what my 3yr old calls me) I don't look human, it's

very very frustrating ... I drink water and gain weight so I pretty much

don't eat. I had some lab work done recently but can't seem to get my

doc to send me a copy of my results. " they are busy " . I love this group

eventhough It helps me mentally to read the other posts.

>

> Hi. I have been a member for a while but I did not post. I have been

> taking my health for granted and I need to be more proactive

> especially about thyroid issues.I have hypothyroidism. I went to my

> primary care for TSH test. I have more water on my legs that I like.

> My mother has edema but she has a bad heart. Does anyone else with

> thyroid experience water in the lower ankles and legs?

> Also what do you do for weight loss? I need to increase my muscle but

> I am always taking a nap? I do not know if I am depressed or fatigued.

> The test results may help? What do you do for more energy? I am

> tempted to eat but I am just at the borderline for my height and do

> not want to gain any more weight?

>

[Guest guest]

Joy,

There is nothing in nature that makes T4 and T3 in those proportions,

let alone T3 alone. Perhaps you mean the vegetarian capsules are

natural. According to the pharmacy, what they are providing is a timed

release version. They can also legitimately state that these are

bio-identical hormones, although they almost certainly start with

synthetic ingredients.

With a timed release version, you should not be crashing at 6:00 unless

you are under dosed, which seems likely. OTOH, there are other things

that can cause edema, such as allergies, and a daily cycle of energy and

collapse, diabetes, for example.

Chuck

>

>

> this is rx T4/T3 THYROID SR (W) 75/75 MCG VEG CAPS it's natural i get it

> through ITC compounding & natural wellness pharmacy. I take that at 6am

> with my cortisol and then around noon I take TRIIODO-L-THYRONINE SOD

> S.R. (W) 75 MCG VEG CAPS I feel half way decent until around 6 then I

> crash and crash hard. I have all kinds of dosages from 2.5 to 3.5 I

> thought about taking them on my own around 6 and see what happens..

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you for the information, Joy. I have found that

other than the diltiazem I am on, when I am not

getting enough thyroid medication is when I unwind

like a clock spring.

Roni

--- Joy <jwalker8869@...> wrote:

> this is rx T4/T3 THYROID SR (W) 75/75 MCG VEG CAPS

> it's natural i get it through ITC compounding &

> natural wellness pharmacy. I take that at 6am with

> my cortisol and then around noon I take

> TRIIODO-L-THYRONINE SOD S.R. (W) 75 MCG VEG CAPS I

> feel half way decent until around 6 then I crash and

> crash hard. I have all kinds of dosages from 2.5 to

> 3.5 I thought about taking them on my own around 6

> and see what happens..

>

> Joy L

>

>

>

> Re: edema

>

> Hi I've also been a member for a while but didn't

> post either.. I'm

> having the same problem I've gained 20lbs in the

> past 6wks a total of

> 125-35 over the past 2yrs.Ive been hypO for the past

> 19 yrs along with

> hashi's I was on synthroid which about killed me and

> recently started on

> the natural T3 T4 in june of 06 lost 68lbs from june

> of o6 unitil april

> of 07 then had surgery and totally relapsed and

> gained it all back

> despite walking and going to curves not to mention

> chasing 4 kids

> around.now I'm on 75mcg time released T3T4 and then

> straight T3 75mcg

> at Noon then I crash about 6pm the fatique ,pain and

> sensitivity to

> about everything,brainfog is unreal and the SOB I

> have other health

> issues like Fibro/CFS Hypercoagulation, adrenal

> Insuff., Neurotoxicity

> anyhoo.. I blow up like a blowfish I swell

> everywhere I have pockets of

> Fluid below my knees, and my body when you squeeze

> it looks like

> spongebob (that's what my 3yr old calls me) I don't

> look human, it's

> very very frustrating ... I drink water and gain

> weight so I pretty much

> don't eat. I had some lab work done recently but

> can't seem to get my

> doc to send me a copy of my results. " they are busy "

> . I love this group

> eventhough It helps me mentally to read the other

> posts.

>

> >

> > Hi. I have been a member for a while but I did not

> post. I have been

> > taking my health for granted and I need to be more

> proactive

> > especially about thyroid issues.I have

> hypothyroidism. I went to my

> > primary care for TSH test. I have more water on my

> legs that I like.

> > My mother has edema but she has a bad heart. Does

> anyone else with

> > thyroid experience water in the lower ankles and

> legs?

> > Also what do you do for weight loss? I need to

> increase my muscle but

> > I am always taking a nap? I do not know if I am

> depressed or fatigued.

> > The test results may help? What do you do for more

> energy? I am

> > tempted to eat but I am just at the borderline for

> my height and do

> > not want to gain any more weight?

> >

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[Guest guest]

thesprout writes:

> Has anyone got any recommendation

try pau d'arco tea..good for edema and good for cancer.

[Guest guest]

hello my wife also gets edema also juiced watermelon is a great diuretic also

get a small paint roller starting slowly up her legs starting at her feet all

the way up it will get the lymph flowing, brett

>

> My partner has cancer of the liver and pancreas. She is suffering

> from water buildup from her waist to her feet. Anyone have the same

> problem or know of a treatment? She is taking water pills but they

> don't seem to be doing much. She has only had 3 chemo treatments so

> far.

>

> Thanks

>

[Guest guest]

Yes but for some men they will hold water I have been on a low dose water pill I

take it every 3 days to keep this down.

Triamterene/HCTZ 37.5/25 mgs

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: phildude43 <phildude43@...>

> Subject: edema

>

> Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 8:35 AM

> Gained about 5 lbs since first 200mg

> injection.Fingers are much larger and I haven't varied my

> way of eating so I feel certain this is all fluid

> retention.Will the edema improve with more frequent, smaller

> dose injections?

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

For those individuals, yes. But diuretics are, IMPO, vastly over prescribed.

Most individuals live their lives chronically dehydrated, and " the solution to

pollution is dilution " .

>

> > From: phildude43 <phildude43@...>

> > Subject: edema

> >

> > Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 8:35 AM

> > Gained about 5 lbs since first 200mg

> > injection.Fingers are much larger and I haven't varied my

> > way of eating so I feel certain this is all fluid

> > retention.Will the edema improve with more frequent, smaller

> > dose injections?

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I hear ya but in my case it's water big time my hands and feel would swell so

bad I felt like I was walking on balloons and could not make a fist with my

hands.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: <drjohn@...>

> Subject: Re: edema

>

> Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 2:00 PM

> For those individuals, yes. But

> diuretics are, IMPO, vastly  over prescribed. Most

> individuals live their lives chronically dehydrated, and

> " the solution to pollution is dilution " .

>

>

> >

> > > From: phildude43 <phildude43@...>

> > > Subject: edema

> > >

> > > Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 8:35 AM

> > > Gained about 5 lbs since first 200mg

> > > injection.Fingers are much larger and I haven't

> varied my

> > > way of eating so I feel certain this is all

> fluid

> > > retention.Will the edema improve with more

> frequent, smaller

> > > dose injections?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Yes this is very true as I have seen in many people as well. I suspect >70% of

the population is dehydrated despite drinking plenty of fluids. When asked how

much coffe average client drinks over 40% of the consumption of liquid comes

from soft drinks and and coffee. Crystaline fructose is a huge factor in

causing potentially alot of health issues. Sugar is modern man's poison. I am

very firm beleiver detoxifcation over a prolong peroid of time which has seen

great clinical response to getting the junk out and cleaning the matrix..

> >

> > > From: phildude43 <phildude43@>

> > > Subject: edema

> > >

> > > Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 8:35 AM

> > > Gained about 5 lbs since first 200mg

> > > injection.Fingers are much larger and I haven't varied my

> > > way of eating so I feel certain this is all fluid

> > > retention.Will the edema improve with more frequent, smaller

> > > dose injections?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Caffeine is not nearly the diuretic it is supposed to be.

The problem with sodas are-even if one does not have issues with artificial

sweeteners-they are basically a glass of chemicals.

Be well!

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> Caffeine is not nearly the diuretic it is supposed to be.

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Yes, I have been battling dependent edema for 15 plus years. The edema has

caused me many ulcers and much pain for years, not to mention $$$.

Here are my suggestions:

use something to elevate your feet eight inches above your heart...I have a flat

foam pillow and a hospital bed which goes up.

Wear elastic hose that are put on before you get out of bed to prevent

swelling...every hour get up and walk around to make the valves in your leg

veins bring blood up toward your heart instead of pooling.

watch the salt.

HTH

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Just thought I would chime in to say that I too had bouts of edema following

surgery. I really noticed it the most in the summer period following

surgery...so for me it was most noticeable between 4 and 8 months post op. I do

still occasionally get swelling (and for me it is also more pronounced in the

left leg). I think this kind of peripheral edema can be any number of things,

and likely a combination of things for me...my guess is the warm weather

combined with some kind of crazy hormonal/surgically induced peri-menopause!

When I travel long distances by car, and especially when I fly overseas, I

always wear support knee highs. I also use them at home, and sometimes overnight

in bed when I have had too much salt in my diet and I have developed " kankles "

after a a sushi dinner!

Of course particularly following surgery and sedentary periods you must always

be concerned that this kind of swelling is related to clots and you should check

it out with your doctor.

Take Care, Cam

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Dandelion leaf tea is a potassium sparing diuretic

You could try drinking 1-2 cups/ day - not after late afternoon or you'll be up

visiting the bathroom often

Lymphatic teas can help too

Chickweed

Cleavers

You could Add nettles for more nutritive support

Wishing you Light & Love & Ease of well being

Randy

On Nov 2, 2010, at 3:04 PM, kmanguish@... wrote:

>

> I'm feeling better than usual. My biggest problem is edema. Lots of edema.

> Currently on cat's claw, knotweed,(both 3each 3x daily), crytolepsis,

lymphonest, artemisin, progesterone cream (as needed), and re-started eleuthero.

(might be the eleuthero making me feel better) Need to make the next batch of

American Indian tea and first batch of stephania tea .

> Suggestions for dealing with edema?

>

>