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From: mprice0823 <mprice823@...>

Subject: rheumatic ok, here goes...

rheumatic

Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 7:02 PM

 

Another newbie here. I've been reading for a little over a week and I guess I'm

ready to start posting...

I am a 34 year old mother of 3. I was diagnosed with RA about 8 months ago after

about 6 months of being told that I had chronic EBV by my family Dr.

I have completely normal blood work and no swelling. My diagnoses was based on

morning stiffness and the fact that 1 erosion showed up on x-ray. I have, from

the beginning questioned my diagnosis and the treatment plan (methotrexate) that

my rheumatologist recommended. Here's how it started...

I woke up one morning with a scratchy throat. The next day it was worse and

looked red with white spots. I NEVER get sick and have never had strep. I

assumed that I had a little virus. We were going out of town and I'm not one to

let a little sore throat ruin a family trip. The next day it was even worse and

I had a fever and chills and was just exhausted. I was out of town with no

access to our local Dr. I decided to wait and see and make an appointment if I

wasn't better the next day when we got home. The next day I WAS feeling better.

I was on the mend! I had 2 good days, we worked in the yard, everything was

great. I went to bed one night and woke up the next morning in agony. My entire

body was on fire. I was so stiff that I literally could not get out of bed (I

know that many of you have been there).

I loaded the kids up in the car to go to the store for some ibuprofen and I

couldn't even shift the gear shifter. I was in tears trying to hold onto the

steering wheel! I decided that the yard work was just too much too soon after

being sick, but I knew that this was different than just being sore. I finally

went into the Dr. They did a strep and mono quick test and both were negative. I

was told that it was mono, that the test was surely a false negative. Given a

scrip for Celebrex and sent on my way. At the time, I was CONVINCED that I did

NOT have mono. I've always believed that antibiotics are overprescribed by drs,

but I was upset that they wouldn't give me an antibiotic. I was SURE that

whatever I had would be helped by a simple antibiotic.

The Celebrex did help, but I was still in lots of pain and very stiff in the

mornings and after sitting for more than 30 minutes. I went back to the Dr two

weeks later. They told me that it was still mono and at my urging, did further

blood work. Everything looked normal and I showed EBV antibodies, the dr told me

to just let it run it's course. To get lots of rest (haha! I have 3 small

children!) and that I would feel better in a couple of weeks.

Two months later, still in pain, I went back to the Dr again. This time I was

told that it must be chronic EBV and that I would just have it for the rest of

my life. At this point, I was calling BS. I KNEW that something else was wrong

with me! I did research and my symptoms did seem to match, but in my gut, I felt

that it was the wrong diagnosis.

I decided to up the ante and a nurse friend recommended that I see a

rheumatologist. She is fairly confident that it is RA, and it still might be,

but I still feel like it is not an exact fit.

Here are the arguments for and against...

I have one wrist that showed erosions, but I have had an injury to that wrist

and have had problems with it for 8 years, so the x-rays could be showing damage

other than RA.

The onset was sudden. Sudden onset does happen in RA, but it seems to be fairly

rare.

I am seronegative. Again, that does happen.

I have NEVER had an elevated sed rate. I have had 8 set of bloodwork over the

course of 15 months and even when I was at my worst, nothing in my bloodwork was

out of the ordinary.

My stiffness is worse in the morning and when I've been sitting (typical RA)

After a shot of prednisone in the rear I was almost symptom free. The dr said it

would last from 2-6 weeks, mine started tapering off after almost 3 months. Dr

felt that the good reaction to prednisone pointed toward RA.

Anyway, long story short. I am not a " do whatever the dr says " type of person.

My rheumatologist has really been pushing me toward methotrexate. The thought of

that stuff makes me want to run away screaming. I decided to try sulfasalazine a

few months ago. It seemed to be the lesser of the two evils and I was feeling

pretty hopeless at the time.

When I found this group, it was like a lightbulb coming on. From the beginning,

I felt like my problem was infectious and would be helped by antibiotics. The

drs looked at me like I was crazy for suggesting it and for a while I thought

they might be right.

I would appreciate any feedback. I'm sorry for posting my whole long sob story,

but I honestly feel like I need to treat the source of my problem and not the

symptoms and I'm hoping that someone else on here can share their success and

help to point me in the right direction.

I live in the Dallas area.

Thanks!!!!

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I believe what I have is Reactive Arthritis.  Have you read much about that?  My

arthritis was sudden onset one week after being diagnosed with a bladder/kidney

infection.  I am to this day (5 years later) seronegative and I'm HLA-B27

positive.  I was tested for Lyme and it came back negative.

From: mprice0823 <mprice823@...>

Subject: rheumatic ok, here goes...

rheumatic

Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 7:02 PM

 

Another newbie here. I've been reading for a little over a week and I guess I'm

ready to start posting...

I am a 34 year old mother of 3. I was diagnosed with RA about 8 months ago after

about 6 months of being told that I had chronic EBV by my family Dr.

I have completely normal blood work and no swelling. My diagnoses was based on

morning stiffness and the fact that 1 erosion showed up on x-ray. I have, from

the beginning questioned my diagnosis and the treatment plan (methotrexate) that

my rheumatologist recommended. Here's how it started...

I woke up one morning with a scratchy throat. The next day it was worse and

looked red with white spots. I NEVER get sick and have never had strep. I

assumed that I had a little virus. We were going out of town and I'm not one to

let a little sore throat ruin a family trip. The next day it was even worse and

I had a fever and chills and was just exhausted. I was out of town with no

access to our local Dr. I decided to wait and see and make an appointment if I

wasn't better the next day when we got home. The next day I WAS feeling better.

I was on the mend! I had 2 good days, we worked in the yard, everything was

great. I went to bed one night and woke up the next morning in agony. My entire

body was on fire. I was so stiff that I literally could not get out of bed (I

know that many of you have been there).

I loaded the kids up in the car to go to the store for some ibuprofen and I

couldn't even shift the gear shifter. I was in tears trying to hold onto the

steering wheel! I decided that the yard work was just too much too soon after

being sick, but I knew that this was different than just being sore. I finally

went into the Dr. They did a strep and mono quick test and both were negative. I

was told that it was mono, that the test was surely a false negative. Given a

scrip for Celebrex and sent on my way. At the time, I was CONVINCED that I did

NOT have mono. I've always believed that antibiotics are overprescribed by drs,

but I was upset that they wouldn't give me an antibiotic. I was SURE that

whatever I had would be helped by a simple antibiotic.

The Celebrex did help, but I was still in lots of pain and very stiff in the

mornings and after sitting for more than 30 minutes. I went back to the Dr two

weeks later. They told me that it was still mono and at my urging, did further

blood work. Everything looked normal and I showed EBV antibodies, the dr told me

to just let it run it's course. To get lots of rest (haha! I have 3 small

children!) and that I would feel better in a couple of weeks.

Two months later, still in pain, I went back to the Dr again. This time I was

told that it must be chronic EBV and that I would just have it for the rest of

my life. At this point, I was calling BS. I KNEW that something else was wrong

with me! I did research and my symptoms did seem to match, but in my gut, I felt

that it was the wrong diagnosis.

I decided to up the ante and a nurse friend recommended that I see a

rheumatologist. She is fairly confident that it is RA, and it still might be,

but I still feel like it is not an exact fit.

Here are the arguments for and against...

I have one wrist that showed erosions, but I have had an injury to that wrist

and have had problems with it for 8 years, so the x-rays could be showing damage

other than RA.

The onset was sudden. Sudden onset does happen in RA, but it seems to be fairly

rare.

I am seronegative. Again, that does happen.

I have NEVER had an elevated sed rate. I have had 8 set of bloodwork over the

course of 15 months and even when I was at my worst, nothing in my bloodwork was

out of the ordinary.

My stiffness is worse in the morning and when I've been sitting (typical RA)

After a shot of prednisone in the rear I was almost symptom free. The dr said it

would last from 2-6 weeks, mine started tapering off after almost 3 months. Dr

felt that the good reaction to prednisone pointed toward RA.

Anyway, long story short. I am not a " do whatever the dr says " type of person.

My rheumatologist has really been pushing me toward methotrexate. The thought of

that stuff makes me want to run away screaming. I decided to try sulfasalazine a

few months ago. It seemed to be the lesser of the two evils and I was feeling

pretty hopeless at the time.

When I found this group, it was like a lightbulb coming on. From the beginning,

I felt like my problem was infectious and would be helped by antibiotics. The

drs looked at me like I was crazy for suggesting it and for a while I thought

they might be right.

I would appreciate any feedback. I'm sorry for posting my whole long sob story,

but I honestly feel like I need to treat the source of my problem and not the

symptoms and I'm hoping that someone else on here can share their success and

help to point me in the right direction.

I live in the Dallas area.

Thanks!!!!

     

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famous culprits: e-coli, proteus mirabilis, klebsiella

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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 19:48:49 -0700

Subject: Re: rheumatic ok, here goes...

I believe what I have is Reactive Arthritis. Have you read much about that? My

arthritis was sudden onset one week after being diagnosed with a bladder/kidney

infection. I am to this day (5 years later) seronegative and I'm HLA-B27

positive. I was tested for Lyme and it came back negative.

From: mprice0823 <mprice823@...>

Subject: rheumatic ok, here goes...

rheumatic

Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 7:02 PM

Another newbie here. I've been reading for a little over a week and I guess I'm

ready to start posting...

I am a 34 year old mother of 3. I was diagnosed with RA about 8 months ago after

about 6 months of being told that I had chronic EBV by my family Dr.

I have completely normal blood work and no swelling. My diagnoses was based on

morning stiffness and the fact that 1 erosion showed up on x-ray. I have, from

the beginning questioned my diagnosis and the treatment plan (methotrexate) that

my rheumatologist recommended. Here's how it started...

I woke up one morning with a scratchy throat. The next day it was worse and

looked red with white spots. I NEVER get sick and have never had strep. I

assumed that I had a little virus. We were going out of town and I'm not one to

let a little sore throat ruin a family trip. The next day it was even worse and

I had a fever and chills and was just exhausted. I was out of town with no

access to our local Dr. I decided to wait and see and make an appointment if I

wasn't better the next day when we got home. The next day I WAS feeling better.

I was on the mend! I had 2 good days, we worked in the yard, everything was

great. I went to bed one night and woke up the next morning in agony. My entire

body was on fire. I was so stiff that I literally could not get out of bed (I

know that many of you have been there).

I loaded the kids up in the car to go to the store for some ibuprofen and I

couldn't even shift the gear shifter. I was in tears trying to hold onto the

steering wheel! I decided that the yard work was just too much too soon after

being sick, but I knew that this was different than just being sore. I finally

went into the Dr. They did a strep and mono quick test and both were negative. I

was told that it was mono, that the test was surely a false negative. Given a

scrip for Celebrex and sent on my way. At the time, I was CONVINCED that I did

NOT have mono. I've always believed that antibiotics are overprescribed by drs,

but I was upset that they wouldn't give me an antibiotic. I was SURE that

whatever I had would be helped by a simple antibiotic.

The Celebrex did help, but I was still in lots of pain and very stiff in the

mornings and after sitting for more than 30 minutes. I went back to the Dr two

weeks later. They told me that it was still mono and at my urging, did further

blood work. Everything looked normal and I showed EBV antibodies, the dr told me

to just let it run it's course. To get lots of rest (haha! I have 3 small

children!) and that I would feel better in a couple of weeks.

Two months later, still in pain, I went back to the Dr again. This time I was

told that it must be chronic EBV and that I would just have it for the rest of

my life. At this point, I was calling BS. I KNEW that something else was wrong

with me! I did research and my symptoms did seem to match, but in my gut, I felt

that it was the wrong diagnosis.

I decided to up the ante and a nurse friend recommended that I see a

rheumatologist. She is fairly confident that it is RA, and it still might be,

but I still feel like it is not an exact fit.

Here are the arguments for and against...

I have one wrist that showed erosions, but I have had an injury to that wrist

and have had problems with it for 8 years, so the x-rays could be showing damage

other than RA.

The onset was sudden. Sudden onset does happen in RA, but it seems to be fairly

rare.

I am seronegative. Again, that does happen.

I have NEVER had an elevated sed rate. I have had 8 set of bloodwork over the

course of 15 months and even when I was at my worst, nothing in my bloodwork was

out of the ordinary.

My stiffness is worse in the morning and when I've been sitting (typical RA)

After a shot of prednisone in the rear I was almost symptom free. The dr said it

would last from 2-6 weeks, mine started tapering off after almost 3 months. Dr

felt that the good reaction to prednisone pointed toward RA.

Anyway, long story short. I am not a " do whatever the dr says " type of person.

My rheumatologist has really been pushing me toward methotrexate. The thought of

that stuff makes me want to run away screaming. I decided to try sulfasalazine a

few months ago. It seemed to be the lesser of the two evils and I was feeling

pretty hopeless at the time.

When I found this group, it was like a lightbulb coming on. From the beginning,

I felt like my problem was infectious and would be helped by antibiotics. The

drs looked at me like I was crazy for suggesting it and for a while I thought

they might be right.

I would appreciate any feedback. I'm sorry for posting my whole long sob story,

but I honestly feel like I need to treat the source of my problem and not the

symptoms and I'm hoping that someone else on here can share their success and

help to point me in the right direction.

I live in the Dallas area.

Thanks!!!!

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I don't know.  I have wondered before if there was a way to contact the hospital

ER I went to and have them look it up, but I don't think they keep records back

that far?

From: mprice0823 <mprice823@...>

Subject: rheumatic ok, here goes...

rheumatic

Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 7:02 PM

 

Another newbie here. I've been reading for a little over a week and I guess I'm

ready to start posting...

I am a 34 year old mother of 3. I was diagnosed with RA about 8 months ago after

about 6 months of being told that I had chronic EBV by my family Dr.

I have completely normal blood work and no swelling. My diagnoses was based on

morning stiffness and the fact that 1 erosion showed up on x-ray. I have, from

the beginning questioned my diagnosis and the treatment plan (methotrexate) that

my rheumatologist recommended. Here's how it started...

I woke up one morning with a scratchy throat. The next day it was worse and

looked red with white spots. I NEVER get sick and have never had strep. I

assumed that I had a little virus. We were going out of town and I'm not one to

let a little sore throat ruin a family trip. The next day it was even worse and

I had a fever and chills and was just exhausted. I was out of town with no

access to our local Dr. I decided to wait and see and make an appointment if I

wasn't better the next day when we got home. The next day I WAS feeling better.

I was on the mend! I had 2 good days, we worked in the yard, everything was

great. I went to bed one night and woke up the next morning in agony. My entire

body was on fire. I was so stiff that I literally could not get out of bed (I

know that many of you have been there).

I loaded the kids up in the car to go to the store for some ibuprofen and I

couldn't even shift the gear shifter. I was in tears trying to hold onto the

steering wheel! I decided that the yard work was just too much too soon after

being sick, but I knew that this was different than just being sore. I finally

went into the Dr. They did a strep and mono quick test and both were negative. I

was told that it was mono, that the test was surely a false negative. Given a

scrip for Celebrex and sent on my way. At the time, I was CONVINCED that I did

NOT have mono. I've always believed that antibiotics are overprescribed by drs,

but I was upset that they wouldn't give me an antibiotic. I was SURE that

whatever I had would be helped by a simple antibiotic.

The Celebrex did help, but I was still in lots of pain and very stiff in the

mornings and after sitting for more than 30 minutes. I went back to the Dr two

weeks later. They told me that it was still mono and at my urging, did further

blood work. Everything looked normal and I showed EBV antibodies, the dr told me

to just let it run it's course. To get lots of rest (haha! I have 3 small

children!) and that I would feel better in a couple of weeks.

Two months later, still in pain, I went back to the Dr again. This time I was

told that it must be chronic EBV and that I would just have it for the rest of

my life. At this point, I was calling BS. I KNEW that something else was wrong

with me! I did research and my symptoms did seem to match, but in my gut, I felt

that it was the wrong diagnosis.

I decided to up the ante and a nurse friend recommended that I see a

rheumatologist. She is fairly confident that it is RA, and it still might be,

but I still feel like it is not an exact fit.

Here are the arguments for and against...

I have one wrist that showed erosions, but I have had an injury to that wrist

and have had problems with it for 8 years, so the x-rays could be showing damage

other than RA.

The onset was sudden. Sudden onset does happen in RA, but it seems to be fairly

rare.

I am seronegative. Again, that does happen.

I have NEVER had an elevated sed rate. I have had 8 set of bloodwork over the

course of 15 months and even when I was at my worst, nothing in my bloodwork was

out of the ordinary.

My stiffness is worse in the morning and when I've been sitting (typical RA)

After a shot of prednisone in the rear I was almost symptom free. The dr said it

would last from 2-6 weeks, mine started tapering off after almost 3 months. Dr

felt that the good reaction to prednisone pointed toward RA.

Anyway, long story short. I am not a " do whatever the dr says " type of person.

My rheumatologist has really been pushing me toward methotrexate. The thought of

that stuff makes me want to run away screaming. I decided to try sulfasalazine a

few months ago. It seemed to be the lesser of the two evils and I was feeling

pretty hopeless at the time.

When I found this group, it was like a lightbulb coming on. From the beginning,

I felt like my problem was infectious and would be helped by antibiotics. The

drs looked at me like I was crazy for suggesting it and for a while I thought

they might be right.

I would appreciate any feedback. I'm sorry for posting my whole long sob story,

but I honestly feel like I need to treat the source of my problem and not the

symptoms and I'm hoping that someone else on here can share their success and

help to point me in the right direction.

I live in the Dallas area.

Thanks!!!!

     

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your symptoms sound quite similar to mine. My rheumatologist is

still gunning for reactive arthritis, though of course fearing the other.

:s It's left me unsure how to proceed with regard to AP (plus of course the

fact that my rheumatologist has noted the side effects of minocycline can be

concerning, something a few people's reports on here confirm) - though I've

made the requisite appointments to talk with doctors who specialise more in

this area yada yada. I've only had this 6 months compared to your 14 or so,

but still - just to give you hope: similar symptoms here, and the doctor is

hoping for reactive arthritis still.

Fingers crossed for you,

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 12:02 PM, mprice0823 <mprice823@...> wrote:

>

>

> Another newbie here. I've been reading for a little over a week and I guess

> I'm ready to start posting...

>

> I am a 34 year old mother of 3. I was diagnosed with RA about 8 months ago

> after about 6 months of being told that I had chronic EBV by my family Dr.

>

> I have completely normal blood work and no swelling. My diagnoses was based

> on morning stiffness and the fact that 1 erosion showed up on x-ray. I have,

> from the beginning questioned my diagnosis and the treatment plan

> (methotrexate) that my rheumatologist recommended. Here's how it started...

>

> I woke up one morning with a scratchy throat. The next day it was worse and

> looked red with white spots. I NEVER get sick and have never had strep. I

> assumed that I had a little virus. We were going out of town and I'm not one

> to let a little sore throat ruin a family trip. The next day it was even

> worse and I had a fever and chills and was just exhausted. I was out of town

> with no access to our local Dr. I decided to wait and see and make an

> appointment if I wasn't better the next day when we got home. The next day I

> WAS feeling better. I was on the mend! I had 2 good days, we worked in the

> yard, everything was great. I went to bed one night and woke up the next

> morning in agony. My entire body was on fire. I was so stiff that I

> literally could not get out of bed (I know that many of you have been

> there).

>

> I loaded the kids up in the car to go to the store for some ibuprofen and I

> couldn't even shift the gear shifter. I was in tears trying to hold onto the

> steering wheel! I decided that the yard work was just too much too soon

> after being sick, but I knew that this was different than just being sore. I

> finally went into the Dr. They did a strep and mono quick test and both were

> negative. I was told that it was mono, that the test was surely a false

> negative. Given a scrip for Celebrex and sent on my way. At the time, I was

> CONVINCED that I did NOT have mono. I've always believed that antibiotics

> are overprescribed by drs, but I was upset that they wouldn't give me an

> antibiotic. I was SURE that whatever I had would be helped by a simple

> antibiotic.

>

> The Celebrex did help, but I was still in lots of pain and very stiff in

> the mornings and after sitting for more than 30 minutes. I went back to the

> Dr two weeks later. They told me that it was still mono and at my urging,

> did further blood work. Everything looked normal and I showed EBV

> antibodies, the dr told me to just let it run it's course. To get lots of

> rest (haha! I have 3 small children!) and that I would feel better in a

> couple of weeks.

>

> Two months later, still in pain, I went back to the Dr again. This time I

> was told that it must be chronic EBV and that I would just have it for the

> rest of my life. At this point, I was calling BS. I KNEW that something else

> was wrong with me! I did research and my symptoms did seem to match, but in

> my gut, I felt that it was the wrong diagnosis.

>

> I decided to up the ante and a nurse friend recommended that I see a

> rheumatologist. She is fairly confident that it is RA, and it still might

> be, but I still feel like it is not an exact fit.

>

> Here are the arguments for and against...

> I have one wrist that showed erosions, but I have had an injury to that

> wrist and have had problems with it for 8 years, so the x-rays could be

> showing damage other than RA.

>

> The onset was sudden. Sudden onset does happen in RA, but it seems to be

> fairly rare.

>

> I am seronegative. Again, that does happen.

>

> I have NEVER had an elevated sed rate. I have had 8 set of bloodwork over

> the course of 15 months and even when I was at my worst, nothing in my

> bloodwork was out of the ordinary.

>

> My stiffness is worse in the morning and when I've been sitting (typical

> RA)

>

> After a shot of prednisone in the rear I was almost symptom free. The dr

> said it would last from 2-6 weeks, mine started tapering off after almost 3

> months. Dr felt that the good reaction to prednisone pointed toward RA.

>

> Anyway, long story short. I am not a " do whatever the dr says " type of

> person. My rheumatologist has really been pushing me toward methotrexate.

> The thought of that stuff makes me want to run away screaming. I decided to

> try sulfasalazine a few months ago. It seemed to be the lesser of the two

> evils and I was feeling pretty hopeless at the time.

>

> When I found this group, it was like a lightbulb coming on. From the

> beginning, I felt like my problem was infectious and would be helped by

> antibiotics. The drs looked at me like I was crazy for suggesting it and for

> a while I thought they might be right.

>

> I would appreciate any feedback. I'm sorry for posting my whole long sob

> story, but I honestly feel like I need to treat the source of my problem and

> not the symptoms and I'm hoping that someone else on here can share their

> success and help to point me in the right direction.

>

> I live in the Dallas area.

>

> Thanks!!!!

>

>

>

>

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Not to be a negative Nelly here, but Reactive Arthritis is not necessarily a

" good " diagnosis. Despite what most sites on the internet say, it doesn't

always/usually go away after 6 months to a year.  I'm about to come up on five

years of having this probable ReA.  

>

>

> Another newbie here. I've been reading for a little over a week and I guess

> I'm ready to start posting...

>

> I am a 34 year old mother of 3. I was diagnosed with RA about 8 months ago

> after about 6 months of being told that I had chronic EBV by my family Dr.

>

> I have completely normal blood work and no swelling. My diagnoses was based

> on morning stiffness and the fact that 1 erosion showed up on x-ray. I have,

> from the beginning questioned my diagnosis and the treatment plan

> (methotrexate) that my rheumatologist recommended. Here's how it started...

>

> I woke up one morning with a scratchy throat. The next day it was worse and

> looked red with white spots. I NEVER get sick and have never had strep. I

> assumed that I had a little virus. We were going out of town and I'm not one

> to let a little sore throat ruin a family trip. The next day it was even

> worse and I had a fever and chills and was just exhausted. I was out of town

> with no access to our local Dr. I decided to wait and see and make an

> appointment if I wasn't better the next day when we got home. The next day I

> WAS feeling better. I was on the mend! I had 2 good days, we worked in the

> yard, everything was great. I went to bed one night and woke up the next

> morning in agony. My entire body was on fire. I was so stiff that I

> literally could not get out of bed (I know that many of you have been

> there).

>

> I loaded the kids up in the car to go to the store for some ibuprofen and I

> couldn't even shift the gear shifter. I was in tears trying to hold onto the

> steering wheel! I decided that the yard work was just too much too soon

> after being sick, but I knew that this was different than just being sore. I

> finally went into the Dr. They did a strep and mono quick test and both were

> negative. I was told that it was mono, that the test was surely a false

> negative. Given a scrip for Celebrex and sent on my way. At the time, I was

> CONVINCED that I did NOT have mono. I've always believed that antibiotics

> are overprescribed by drs, but I was upset that they wouldn't give me an

> antibiotic. I was SURE that whatever I had would be helped by a simple

> antibiotic.

>

> The Celebrex did help, but I was still in lots of pain and very stiff in

> the mornings and after sitting for more than 30 minutes. I went back to the

> Dr two weeks later. They told me that it was still mono and at my urging,

> did further blood work. Everything looked normal and I showed EBV

> antibodies, the dr told me to just let it run it's course. To get lots of

> rest (haha! I have 3 small children!) and that I would feel better in a

> couple of weeks.

>

> Two months later, still in pain, I went back to the Dr again. This time I

> was told that it must be chronic EBV and that I would just have it for the

> rest of my life. At this point, I was calling BS. I KNEW that something else

> was wrong with me! I did research and my symptoms did seem to match, but in

> my gut, I felt that it was the wrong diagnosis.

>

> I decided to up the ante and a nurse friend recommended that I see a

> rheumatologist. She is fairly confident that it is RA, and it still might

> be, but I still feel like it is not an exact fit.

>

> Here are the arguments for and against...

> I have one wrist that showed erosions, but I have had an injury to that

> wrist and have had problems with it for 8 years, so the x-rays could be

> showing damage other than RA.

>

> The onset was sudden. Sudden onset does happen in RA, but it seems to be

> fairly rare.

>

> I am seronegative. Again, that does happen.

>

> I have NEVER had an elevated sed rate. I have had 8 set of bloodwork over

> the course of 15 months and even when I was at my worst, nothing in my

> bloodwork was out of the ordinary.

>

> My stiffness is worse in the morning and when I've been sitting (typical

> RA)

>

> After a shot of prednisone in the rear I was almost symptom free. The dr

> said it would last from 2-6 weeks, mine started tapering off after almost 3

> months. Dr felt that the good reaction to prednisone pointed toward RA.

>

> Anyway, long story short. I am not a " do whatever the dr says " type of

> person. My rheumatologist has really been pushing me toward methotrexate.

> The thought of that stuff makes me want to run away screaming. I decided to

> try sulfasalazine a few months ago. It seemed to be the lesser of the two

> evils and I was feeling pretty hopeless at the time.

>

> When I found this group, it was like a lightbulb coming on. From the

> beginning, I felt like my problem was infectious and would be helped by

> antibiotics. The drs looked at me like I was crazy for suggesting it and for

> a while I thought they might be right.

>

> I would appreciate any feedback. I'm sorry for posting my whole long sob

> story, but I honestly feel like I need to treat the source of my problem and

> not the symptoms and I'm hoping that someone else on here can share their

> success and help to point me in the right direction.

>

> I live in the Dallas area.

>

> Thanks!!!!

>

>

>

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From: Beth Fletcher <kbf23@...>

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Sent: Tue, June 22, 2010 8:20:16 PM

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I don't know.  I have wondered before if there was a way to contact the

hospital ER I went to and have them look it up, but I don't think they keep

records back that far?

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Subject: rheumatic ok, here goes...

rheumatic

Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 7:02 PM

 

Another newbie here. I've been reading for a little over a week and I guess I'm

ready to start posting...

I am a 34 year old mother of 3. I was diagnosed with RA about 8 months ago after

about 6 months of being told that I had chronic EBV by my family Dr.

I have completely normal blood work and no swelling. My diagnoses was based on

morning stiffness and the fact that 1 erosion showed up on x-ray. I have, from

the beginning questioned my diagnosis and the treatment plan (methotrexate) that

my rheumatologist recommended. Here's how it started...

I woke up one morning with a scratchy throat. The next day it was worse and

looked red with white spots. I NEVER get sick and have never had strep. I

assumed that I had a little virus. We were going out of town and I'm not one to

let a little sore throat ruin a family trip. The next day it was even worse and

I had a fever and chills and was just exhausted. I was out of town with no

access to our local Dr. I decided to wait and see and make an appointment if I

wasn't better the next day when we got home. The next day I WAS feeling better.

I was on the mend! I had 2 good days, we worked in the yard, everything was

great. I went to bed one night and woke up the next morning in agony. My entire

body was on fire. I was so stiff that I literally could not get out of bed (I

know that many of you have been there).

I loaded the kids up in the car to go to the store for some ibuprofen and I

couldn't even shift the gear shifter. I was in tears trying to hold onto the

steering wheel! I decided that the yard work was just too much too soon after

being sick, but I knew that this was different than just being sore. I finally

went into the Dr. They did a strep and mono quick test and both were negative. I

was told that it was mono, that the test was surely a false negative. Given a

scrip for Celebrex and sent on my way. At the time, I was CONVINCED that I did

NOT have mono. I've always believed that antibiotics are overprescribed by drs,

but I was upset that they wouldn't give me an antibiotic. I was SURE that

whatever I had would be helped by a simple antibiotic.

The Celebrex did help, but I was still in lots of pain and very stiff in the

mornings and after sitting for more than 30 minutes. I went back to the Dr two

weeks later. They told me that it was still mono and at my urging, did further

blood work. Everything looked normal and I showed EBV antibodies, the dr told me

to just let it run it's course. To get lots of rest (haha! I have 3 small

children!) and that I would feel better in a couple of weeks.

Two months later, still in pain, I went back to the Dr again. This time I was

told that it must be chronic EBV and that I would just have it for the rest of

my life. At this point, I was calling BS. I KNEW that something else was wrong

with me! I did research and my symptoms did seem to match, but in my gut, I felt

that it was the wrong diagnosis.

I decided to up the ante and a nurse friend recommended that I see a

rheumatologist. She is fairly confident that it is RA, and it still might be,

but I still feel like it is not an exact fit.

Here are the arguments for and against...

I have one wrist that showed erosions, but I have had an injury to that wrist

and have had problems with it for 8 years, so the x-rays could be showing damage

other than RA.

The onset was sudden. Sudden onset does happen in RA, but it seems to be fairly

rare.

I am seronegative. Again, that does happen.

I have NEVER had an elevated sed rate. I have had 8 set of bloodwork over the

course of 15 months and even when I was at my worst, nothing in my bloodwork was

out of the ordinary.

My stiffness is worse in the morning and when I've been sitting (typical RA)

After a shot of prednisone in the rear I was almost symptom free. The dr said it

would last from 2-6 weeks, mine started tapering off after almost 3 months. Dr

felt that the good reaction to prednisone pointed toward RA.

Anyway, long story short. I am not a " do whatever the dr says " type of person.

My rheumatologist has really been pushing me toward methotrexate. The thought of

that stuff makes me want to run away screaming. I decided to try sulfasalazine a

few months ago. It seemed to be the lesser of the two evils and I was feeling

pretty hopeless at the time.

When I found this group, it was like a lightbulb coming on. From the beginning,

I felt like my problem was infectious and would be helped by antibiotics. The

drs looked at me like I was crazy for suggesting it and for a while I thought

they might be right.

I would appreciate any feedback. I'm sorry for posting my whole long sob story,

but I honestly feel like I need to treat the source of my problem and not the

symptoms and I'm hoping that someone else on here can share their success and

help to point me in the right direction.

I live in the Dallas area.

Thanks!!!!

     

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First of all Beth, Welcome to the group.  We all here have been through similar

circumstances so we understand your frustration.  We also promote the

antibiotic protocol here.  There is lots of material written that would help

you understand what the Infectious Theory is about and some history about the

doctor who found the type of bacteria that causes these types of illnesses. 

There is a sub type of bacteria derived from general bacteria.  This sub type

is miniscule in size, are difficult to cultivate in a petri dish, can morph into

an L-shape and invade your immune cells. They have no cell walls to stop the

invasion. They are slow growing and slow dying and very difficult to get rid

of.  Saying all that, there is a way of doing it and that is by taking low dose

antibiotics over a long period of time.  There are books that explain the

entire process.  If you are going to do the antibiotic protocol, you must find

a doc that is familiar with

the program.  Then a series of blood tests should be done to see if what bug

or bugs you are carrying. When you were diagnosed with EBV, they should have

given you the antiviral, Acyclovir.  This is the way I started when I got

sick.  I had EBV for a year and finally one doc gave me the acyclovir.  I got

better but I should have been given the dose earlier and for a longer period of

time.  There are people on this board  that live near Dallas who can give you

referrals for A/P docs in your area.  Or go to the nearest hospital for

referrals.  If you can't find a rheumatologist that will do the antibiotic

protocol with you, then search for an Infectious disease doc.  They freely

write the scripts for antibiotics without hesitation.  As you go along, we will

recommend books that will give you all the info you need to sucessfully rid

yourself of this disease. There is a FAQ sheet you can google or get on the

search engine that can anwer

most of the questions you may have re: the Antibiotic Protocol.  Just type in

Frequently Asked Question about the Antibiotic Protocol. Print that and take a

copy with you to your appt. Let the doctor know that you want to start on the

anibiotic protocol.   Read it all carefully first and refer to it from time to

time  It doesn't sound like you have been properly diagnosed thus far.  You

are correct in not wanting to take the methotrexate.  It will dampen down the

immune system and you may feel a bit better for a short spell, but that is only

the symptom which has been dampened down.  The disease still rages on.  Once

on the antibiotics, things might get a bit worse before they get better because

of the die off of the bacteria.  These buggers emit a toxin and they don't die

off easily.  While taking the antibiotics you will want to do things to boost

the immune system.. The antibiotics do not kill the bacteria, they only weaken

them.  You

need a healthy intact immune system to kill off the bacteria. Once on the

program, we will help you though this.  It is quite a long and arduous journey,

but well worth it in the end.  I started my journey in 2005 and went into

remission in 2008.  It was not easy and it was not an instant feel good cure. 

You will develop symptoms you never heard of, but they will go away .  Other

symptoms will crop up from time to time, but they are only symptoms and in time,

all symptoms most likely will disappear.  Your blood work for now is

sero-negative and may stay that way or convert to positive. Gather all you

labs, records and anything else you can and bring them with you for your

appointment.  Whatever you do, stay away from immune suppressants.  You need a

healthy immune system to fight this off.  My best to you .  Stay in touch and

let us know how you are doing.  Dolores    

From: mprice0823 <mprice823@...>

Subject: rheumatic ok, here goes...

rheumatic

Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 7:02 PM

 

Another newbie here. I've been reading for a little over a week and I guess I'm

ready to start posting...

I am a 34 year old mother of 3. I was diagnosed with RA about 8 months ago after

about 6 months of being told that I had chronic EBV by my family Dr.

I have completely normal blood work and no swelling. My diagnoses was based on

morning stiffness and the fact that 1 erosion showed up on x-ray. I have, from

the beginning questioned my diagnosis and the treatment plan (methotrexate) that

my rheumatologist recommended. Here's how it started...

I woke up one morning with a scratchy throat. The next day it was worse and

looked red with white spots. I NEVER get sick and have never had strep. I

assumed that I had a little virus. We were going out of town and I'm not one to

let a little sore throat ruin a family trip. The next day it was even worse and

I had a fever and chills and was just exhausted. I was out of town with no

access to our local Dr. I decided to wait and see and make an appointment if I

wasn't better the next day when we got home. The next day I WAS feeling better.

I was on the mend! I had 2 good days, we worked in the yard, everything was

great. I went to bed one night and woke up the next morning in agony. My entire

body was on fire. I was so stiff that I literally could not get out of bed (I

know that many of you have been there).

I loaded the kids up in the car to go to the store for some ibuprofen and I

couldn't even shift the gear shifter. I was in tears trying to hold onto the

steering wheel! I decided that the yard work was just too much too soon after

being sick, but I knew that this was different than just being sore. I finally

went into the Dr. They did a strep and mono quick test and both were negative. I

was told that it was mono, that the test was surely a false negative. Given a

scrip for Celebrex and sent on my way. At the time, I was CONVINCED that I did

NOT have mono. I've always believed that antibiotics are overprescribed by drs,

but I was upset that they wouldn't give me an antibiotic. I was SURE that

whatever I had would be helped by a simple antibiotic.

The Celebrex did help, but I was still in lots of pain and very stiff in the

mornings and after sitting for more than 30 minutes. I went back to the Dr two

weeks later. They told me that it was still mono and at my urging, did further

blood work. Everything looked normal and I showed EBV antibodies, the dr told me

to just let it run it's course. To get lots of rest (haha! I have 3 small

children!) and that I would feel better in a couple of weeks.

Two months later, still in pain, I went back to the Dr again. This time I was

told that it must be chronic EBV and that I would just have it for the rest of

my life. At this point, I was calling BS. I KNEW that something else was wrong

with me! I did research and my symptoms did seem to match, but in my gut, I felt

that it was the wrong diagnosis.

I decided to up the ante and a nurse friend recommended that I see a

rheumatologist. She is fairly confident that it is RA, and it still might be,

but I still feel like it is not an exact fit.

Here are the arguments for and against...

I have one wrist that showed erosions, but I have had an injury to that wrist

and have had problems with it for 8 years, so the x-rays could be showing damage

other than RA.

The onset was sudden. Sudden onset does happen in RA, but it seems to be fairly

rare.

I am seronegative. Again, that does happen.

I have NEVER had an elevated sed rate. I have had 8 set of bloodwork over the

course of 15 months and even when I was at my worst, nothing in my bloodwork was

out of the ordinary.

My stiffness is worse in the morning and when I've been sitting (typical RA)

After a shot of prednisone in the rear I was almost symptom free. The dr said it

would last from 2-6 weeks, mine started tapering off after almost 3 months. Dr

felt that the good reaction to prednisone pointed toward RA.

Anyway, long story short. I am not a " do whatever the dr says " type of person.

My rheumatologist has really been pushing me toward methotrexate. The thought of

that stuff makes me want to run away screaming. I decided to try sulfasalazine a

few months ago. It seemed to be the lesser of the two evils and I was feeling

pretty hopeless at the time.

When I found this group, it was like a lightbulb coming on. From the beginning,

I felt like my problem was infectious and would be helped by antibiotics. The

drs looked at me like I was crazy for suggesting it and for a while I thought

they might be right.

I would appreciate any feedback. I'm sorry for posting my whole long sob story,

but I honestly feel like I need to treat the source of my problem and not the

symptoms and I'm hoping that someone else on here can share their success and

help to point me in the right direction.

I live in the Dallas area.

Thanks!!!!

     

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Where in Dallas do you live?  I live in Dallas Co.  I went to a doctor in

that I fell is very good.  I don't know if he does AP.  If you are

really disperate Dr. Diwitt is in Tyler and I know he does AP.  I have many

appointments today, but later on theis afternoon I will find the doctor I

started w/just so I could get on AP.

 dJosie (Dallas TX)

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From: mprice0823 <mprice823@...>

rheumatic

Sent: Tue, June 22, 2010 9:02:12 PM

Subject: rheumatic ok, here goes...

Another newbie here.  I've been reading for a little over a week and I guess I'm

ready to start posting...

I am a 34 year old mother of 3.  I was diagnosed with RA about 8 months ago

after about 6 months of being told that I had chronic EBV by my family Dr.

I have completely normal blood work and no swelling.  My diagnoses was based on

morning stiffness and the fact that 1 erosion showed up on x-ray.  I have, from

the beginning questioned my diagnosis and the treatment plan (methotrexate) that

my rheumatologist recommended.  Here's how it started...

I woke up one morning with a scratchy throat.  The next day it was worse and

looked red with white spots.  I NEVER get sick and have never had strep.  I

assumed that I had a little virus.  We were going out of town and I'm not one to

let a little sore throat ruin a family trip.  The next day it was even worse and

I had a fever and chills and was just exhausted.  I was out of town with no

access to our local Dr.  I decided to wait and see and make an appointment if I

wasn't better the next day when we got home.  The next day I WAS feeling

better.  I was on the mend!  I had 2 good days, we worked in the yard,

everything was great.  I went to bed one night and woke up the next morning in

agony.  My entire body was on fire. I was so stiff that I literally could not

get out of bed (I know that many of you have been there).

I loaded the kids up in the car to go to the store for some ibuprofen and I

couldn't even shift the gear shifter.  I was in tears trying to hold onto the

steering wheel!  I decided that the yard work was just too much too soon after

being sick, but I knew that this was different than just being sore.  I finally

went into the Dr.  They did a strep and mono quick test and both were negative. 

I was told that it was mono, that the test was surely a false negative.  Given a

scrip for Celebrex and sent on my way.  At the time, I was CONVINCED that I did

NOT have mono.  I've always believed that antibiotics are overprescribed by drs,

but I was upset that they wouldn't give me an antibiotic.  I was SURE that

whatever I had would be helped by a simple antibiotic.

The Celebrex did help, but I was still in lots of pain and very stiff in the

mornings and after sitting for more than 30 minutes.  I went back to the Dr two

weeks later.  They told me that it was still mono and at my urging, did further

blood work.  Everything looked normal and I showed EBV antibodies, the dr told

me to just let it run it's course.  To get lots of rest (haha!  I have 3 small

children!) and that I would feel better in a couple of weeks.

Two months later, still in pain, I went back to the Dr again.  This time I was

told that it must be chronic EBV and that I would just have it for the rest of

my life.  At this point, I was calling BS.  I KNEW that something else was wrong

with me!  I did research and my symptoms did seem to match, but in my gut, I

felt that it was the wrong diagnosis.

I decided to up the ante and a nurse friend recommended that I see a

rheumatologist.  She is fairly confident that it is RA, and it still might be,

but I still feel like it is not an exact fit. 

Here are the arguments for and against...

I have one wrist that showed erosions, but I have had an injury to that wrist

and have had problems with it for 8 years, so the x-rays could be showing damage

other than RA. 

The onset was sudden.  Sudden onset does happen in RA, but it seems to be fairly

rare.

I am seronegative.  Again, that does happen.

I have NEVER had an elevated sed rate.  I have had 8 set of bloodwork over the

course of 15 months and even when I was at my worst, nothing in my bloodwork was

out of the ordinary.

My stiffness is worse in the morning and when I've been sitting (typical RA)

After a shot of prednisone in the rear I was almost symptom free.  The dr said

it would last from 2-6 weeks, mine started tapering off after almost 3 months. 

Dr felt that the good reaction to prednisone pointed toward RA.

Anyway, long story short.  I am not a " do whatever the dr says " type of person. 

My rheumatologist has really been pushing me toward methotrexate.  The thought

of that stuff makes me want to run away screaming.  I decided to try

sulfasalazine a few months ago.  It seemed to be the lesser of the two evils and

I was feeling pretty hopeless at the time.

When I found this group, it was like a lightbulb coming on.  From the beginning,

I felt like my problem was infectious and would be helped by antibiotics.  The

drs looked at me like I was crazy for suggesting it and for a while I thought

they might be right.

I would appreciate any feedback.  I'm sorry for posting my whole long sob story,

but I honestly feel like I need to treat the source of my problem and not the

symptoms and I'm hoping that someone else on here can share their success and

help to point me in the right direction.

I live in the Dallas area.

Thanks!!!!

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My first thoughts are thus: When you say all your labs were normal...with the

exception of EBV antibodies...did your rheumy that you visited do the typical

labs....or did she/he do ones for these diseases?

Did the rheumy do a :

Anti DS DNA to look for Lupus?

An ANA, anti nuclear antibody...cking specifically for these diseases, If not, I

would ask for one...and specifically ask for titer and pattern....indicates

which probable disease you may be dealing with..if any

If the RF was negative...did they do an Anti CCP? This is sometimes positive for

RA even when the RF is normal...(mine was positive)

An RNP, this cks for Mixed Connective Tissue Disease...for example, I have

tested positive for Scleroderma and RA...My ANA is positive and my Anti CCP is

positive...BUT my RNP was negative..therefore I don't have Mixed Connective

Tissue Disease, MCTD, I have Scleroderma and RA...The RNP antibody is positive

in MCTD...

Another test for inflammation would be a CRP...somewhat more specific than a Sed

rate.

A CPK measures muscle breakdown...that might be a good idea as well...

My Sed rate has never been very high, often in normal range...even at my

worst...fingers and elbows swollen as well as knees etc...but Sed rate was

normal...

Oh and since you are researching...It was suggested to me years ago by a veryyy

experienced patient on here...ask for copies of all lab reports and start a

notebook for tests and labs...saves time if you see any other DRs...if this

passes...and does not come back..no harm, no foul...if not...you have everything

organized to see a different physician, if need be.

Good Luck...and keep us posted...there are many on here that are so willing to

help. Arming yourself with knowledge is always a good thing.

Debbie in Cincinnati

rheumatic ok, here goes...

Another newbie here. I've been reading for a little over a week and I guess

I'm ready to start posting...

I am a 34 year old mother of 3. I was diagnosed with RA about 8 months ago

after about 6 months of being told that I had chronic EBV by my family Dr.

I have completely normal blood work and no swelling. My diagnoses was based on

morning stiffness and the fact that 1 erosion showed up on x-ray. I have, from

the beginning questioned my diagnosis and the treatment plan (methotrexate) that

my rheumatologist recommended. Here's how it started...

I woke up one morning with a scratchy throat. The next day it was worse and

looked red with white spots. I NEVER get sick and have never had strep. I

assumed that I had a little virus. We were going out of town and I'm not one to

let a little sore throat ruin a family trip. The next day it was even worse and

I had a fever and chills and was just exhausted. I was out of town with no

access to our local Dr. I decided to wait and see and make an appointment if I

wasn't better the next day when we got home. The next day I WAS feeling better.

I was on the mend! I had 2 good days, we worked in the yard, everything was

great. I went to bed one night and woke up the next morning in agony. My entire

body was on fire. I was so stiff that I literally could not get out of bed (I

know that many of you have been there).

I loaded the kids up in the car to go to the store for some ibuprofen and I

couldn't even shift the gear shifter. I was in tears trying to hold onto the

steering wheel! I decided that the yard work was just too much too soon after

being sick, but I knew that this was different than just being sore. I finally

went into the Dr. They did a strep and mono quick test and both were negative. I

was told that it was mono, that the test was surely a false negative. Given a

scrip for Celebrex and sent on my way. At the time, I was CONVINCED that I did

NOT have mono. I've always believed that antibiotics are overprescribed by drs,

but I was upset that they wouldn't give me an antibiotic. I was SURE that

whatever I had would be helped by a simple antibiotic.

The Celebrex did help, but I was still in lots of pain and very stiff in the

mornings and after sitting for more than 30 minutes. I went back to the Dr two

weeks later. They told me that it was still mono and at my urging, did further

blood work. Everything looked normal and I showed EBV antibodies, the dr told me

to just let it run it's course. To get lots of rest (haha! I have 3 small

children!) and that I would feel better in a couple of weeks.

Two months later, still in pain, I went back to the Dr again. This time I was

told that it must be chronic EBV and that I would just have it for the rest of

my life. At this point, I was calling BS. I KNEW that something else was wrong

with me! I did research and my symptoms did seem to match, but in my gut, I felt

that it was the wrong diagnosis.

I decided to up the ante and a nurse friend recommended that I see a

rheumatologist. She is fairly confident that it is RA, and it still might be,

but I still feel like it is not an exact fit.

Here are the arguments for and against...

I have one wrist that showed erosions, but I have had an injury to that wrist

and have had problems with it for 8 years, so the x-rays could be showing damage

other than RA.

The onset was sudden. Sudden onset does happen in RA, but it seems to be

fairly rare.

I am seronegative. Again, that does happen.

I have NEVER had an elevated sed rate. I have had 8 set of bloodwork over the

course of 15 months and even when I was at my worst, nothing in my bloodwork was

out of the ordinary.

My stiffness is worse in the morning and when I've been sitting (typical RA)

After a shot of prednisone in the rear I was almost symptom free. The dr said

it would last from 2-6 weeks, mine started tapering off after almost 3 months.

Dr felt that the good reaction to prednisone pointed toward RA.

Anyway, long story short. I am not a " do whatever the dr says " type of person.

My rheumatologist has really been pushing me toward methotrexate. The thought of

that stuff makes me want to run away screaming. I decided to try sulfasalazine a

few months ago. It seemed to be the lesser of the two evils and I was feeling

pretty hopeless at the time.

When I found this group, it was like a lightbulb coming on. From the

beginning, I felt like my problem was infectious and would be helped by

antibiotics. The drs looked at me like I was crazy for suggesting it and for a

while I thought they might be right.

I would appreciate any feedback. I'm sorry for posting my whole long sob

story, but I honestly feel like I need to treat the source of my problem and not

the symptoms and I'm hoping that someone else on here can share their success

and help to point me in the right direction.

I live in the Dallas area.

Thanks!!!!

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Welcome, Beth. I am at work so will make this quick. I am a scleroderma. I

am originally from Dallas and you have several AP doctors in smaller towns

around there. Write in here and ask for the list of them. I now live in

Montana but I traveled all that way to be seen in Tyler, Texas by Pieter DeWet,

M.D. who brought me back to remission/cure. Were I to fall out of this, I

would travel there again. You can google him or just call information for

Doctor Dewet. I have a cousin in Paris, Texas who is now DeWet's patient and

he is pleased with him. Good Luck! Fain

rheumatic ok, here goes...

rheumatic

Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 7:02 PM

Another newbie here. I've been reading for a little over a week and I guess I'm

ready to start posting...

I am a 34 year old mother of 3. I was diagnosed with RA about 8 months ago after

about 6 months of being told that I had chronic EBV by my family Dr.

I have completely normal blood work and no swelling. My diagnoses was based on

morning stiffness and the fact that 1 erosion showed up on x-ray. I have, from

the beginning questioned my diagnosis and the treatment plan (methotrexate) that

my rheumatologist recommended. Here's how it started...

I woke up one morning with a scratchy throat. The next day it was worse and

looked red with white spots. I NEVER get sick and have never had strep. I

assumed that I had a little virus. We were going out of town and I'm not one to

let a little sore throat ruin a family trip. The next day it was even worse and

I had a fever and chills and was just exhausted. I was out of town with no

access to our local Dr. I decided to wait and see and make an appointment if I

wasn't better the next day when we got home. The next day I WAS feeling better.

I was on the mend! I had 2 good days, we worked in the yard, everything was

great. I went to bed one night and woke up the next morning in agony. My entire

body was on fire. I was so stiff that I literally could not get out of bed (I

know that many of you have been there).

I loaded the kids up in the car to go to the store for some ibuprofen and I

couldn't even shift the gear shifter. I was in tears trying to hold onto the

steering wheel! I decided that the yard work was just too much too soon after

being sick, but I knew that this was different than just being sore. I finally

went into the Dr. They did a strep and mono quick test and both were negative. I

was told that it was mono, that the test was surely a false negative. Given a

scrip for Celebrex and sent on my way. At the time, I was CONVINCED that I did

NOT have mono. I've always believed that antibiotics are overprescribed by drs,

but I was upset that they wouldn't give me an antibiotic. I was SURE that

whatever I had would be helped by a simple antibiotic.

The Celebrex did help, but I was still in lots of pain and very stiff in the

mornings and after sitting for more than 30 minutes. I went back to the Dr two

weeks later. They told me that it was still mono and at my urging, did further

blood work. Everything looked normal and I showed EBV antibodies, the dr told me

to just let it run it's course. To get lots of rest (haha! I have 3 small

children!) and that I would feel better in a couple of weeks.

Two months later, still in pain, I went back to the Dr again. This time I was

told that it must be chronic EBV and that I would just have it for the rest of

my life. At this point, I was calling BS. I KNEW that something else was wrong

with me! I did research and my symptoms did seem to match, but in my gut, I felt

that it was the wrong diagnosis.

I decided to up the ante and a nurse friend recommended that I see a

rheumatologist. She is fairly confident that it is RA, and it still might be,

but I still feel like it is not an exact fit.

Here are the arguments for and against...

I have one wrist that showed erosions, but I have had an injury to that wrist

and have had problems with it for 8 years, so the x-rays could be showing damage

other than RA.

The onset was sudden. Sudden onset does happen in RA, but it seems to be fairly

rare.

I am seronegative. Again, that does happen.

I have NEVER had an elevated sed rate. I have had 8 set of bloodwork over the

course of 15 months and even when I was at my worst, nothing in my bloodwork was

out of the ordinary.

My stiffness is worse in the morning and when I've been sitting (typical RA)

After a shot of prednisone in the rear I was almost symptom free. The dr said it

would last from 2-6 weeks, mine started tapering off after almost 3 months. Dr

felt that the good reaction to prednisone pointed toward RA.

Anyway, long story short. I am not a " do whatever the dr says " type of person.

My rheumatologist has really been pushing me toward methotrexate. The thought of

that stuff makes me want to run away screaming. I decided to try sulfasalazine a

few months ago. It seemed to be the lesser of the two evils and I was feeling

pretty hopeless at the time.

When I found this group, it was like a lightbulb coming on. From the beginning,

I felt like my problem was infectious and would be helped by antibiotics. The

drs looked at me like I was crazy for suggesting it and for a while I thought

they might be right.

I would appreciate any feedback. I'm sorry for posting my whole long sob story,

but I honestly feel like I need to treat the source of my problem and not the

symptoms and I'm hoping that someone else on here can share their success and

help to point me in the right direction.

I live in the Dallas area.

Thanks!!!!

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I'm not new.  I was replying to 's email.  She's the newbie that

everyone is mixing me up with. LOL

--sorry for the confusion.  These emails are for YOU.  I was actually

asking you if you had done any research on reactive arthritis.  Maybe that would

fit your symptoms?  

From: mprice0823 <mprice823@...>

Subject: rheumatic ok, here goes...

rheumatic

Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 7:02 PM

 

Another newbie here. I've been reading for a little over a week and I guess I'm

ready to start posting...

I am a 34 year old mother of 3. I was diagnosed with RA about 8 months ago after

about 6 months of being told that I had chronic EBV by my family Dr.

I have completely normal blood work and no swelling. My diagnoses was based on

morning stiffness and the fact that 1 erosion showed up on x-ray. I have, from

the beginning questioned my diagnosis and the treatment plan (methotrexate) that

my rheumatologist recommended. Here's how it started...

I woke up one morning with a scratchy throat. The next day it was worse and

looked red with white spots. I NEVER get sick and have never had strep. I

assumed that I had a little virus. We were going out of town and I'm not one to

let a little sore throat ruin a family trip. The next day it was even worse and

I had a fever and chills and was just exhausted. I was out of town with no

access to our local Dr. I decided to wait and see and make an appointment if I

wasn't better the next day when we got home. The next day I WAS feeling better.

I was on the mend! I had 2 good days, we worked in the yard, everything was

great. I went to bed one night and woke up the next morning in agony. My entire

body was on fire. I was so stiff that I literally could not get out of bed (I

know that many of you have been there).

I loaded the kids up in the car to go to the store for some ibuprofen and I

couldn't even shift the gear shifter. I was in tears trying to hold onto the

steering wheel! I decided that the yard work was just too much too soon after

being sick, but I knew that this was different than just being sore. I finally

went into the Dr. They did a strep and mono quick test and both were negative. I

was told that it was mono, that the test was surely a false negative. Given a

scrip for Celebrex and sent on my way. At the time, I was CONVINCED that I did

NOT have mono. I've always believed that antibiotics are overprescribed by drs,

but I was upset that they wouldn't give me an antibiotic. I was SURE that

whatever I had would be helped by a simple antibiotic.

The Celebrex did help, but I was still in lots of pain and very stiff in the

mornings and after sitting for more than 30 minutes. I went back to the Dr two

weeks later. They told me that it was still mono and at my urging, did further

blood work. Everything looked normal and I showed EBV antibodies, the dr told me

to just let it run it's course. To get lots of rest (haha! I have 3 small

children!) and that I would feel better in a couple of weeks.

Two months later, still in pain, I went back to the Dr again. This time I was

told that it must be chronic EBV and that I would just have it for the rest of

my life. At this point, I was calling BS. I KNEW that something else was wrong

with me! I did research and my symptoms did seem to match, but in my gut, I felt

that it was the wrong diagnosis.

I decided to up the ante and a nurse friend recommended that I see a

rheumatologist. She is fairly confident that it is RA, and it still might be,

but I still feel like it is not an exact fit.

Here are the arguments for and against...

I have one wrist that showed erosions, but I have had an injury to that wrist

and have had problems with it for 8 years, so the x-rays could be showing damage

other than RA.

The onset was sudden. Sudden onset does happen in RA, but it seems to be fairly

rare.

I am seronegative. Again, that does happen.

I have NEVER had an elevated sed rate. I have had 8 set of bloodwork over the

course of 15 months and even when I was at my worst, nothing in my bloodwork was

out of the ordinary.

My stiffness is worse in the morning and when I've been sitting (typical RA)

After a shot of prednisone in the rear I was almost symptom free. The dr said it

would last from 2-6 weeks, mine started tapering off after almost 3 months. Dr

felt that the good reaction to prednisone pointed toward RA.

Anyway, long story short. I am not a " do whatever the dr says " type of person.

My rheumatologist has really been pushing me toward methotrexate. The thought of

that stuff makes me want to run away screaming. I decided to try sulfasalazine a

few months ago. It seemed to be the lesser of the two evils and I was feeling

pretty hopeless at the time.

When I found this group, it was like a lightbulb coming on. From the beginning,

I felt like my problem was infectious and would be helped by antibiotics. The

drs looked at me like I was crazy for suggesting it and for a while I thought

they might be right.

I would appreciate any feedback. I'm sorry for posting my whole long sob story,

but I honestly feel like I need to treat the source of my problem and not the

symptoms and I'm hoping that someone else on here can share their success and

help to point me in the right direction.

I live in the Dallas area.

Thanks!!!!

     

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Thanks everyone for the warm welcome and input. To answer a few questions.....

I live in the suburbs north of Dallas. Any names of drs are AP friendly in my

area would be greatly appreciated.

I have from the beginning thought that I may have Reactive Arthritis. My

rheumatologist said that it's not that because of A) length of time since

illness started and B) erosions evident on x-ray. I'm still not counting it out

at all and will do a little more reading on the subject.

I will do some research on Lyme disease. I know next to nothing about it, but

assumed that people who live in more rural areas are prone to it.

I will check into the dr in Tyler, that is about 2.5 hours from my house.

I *think* I covered everything!

Thanks again!

>

> Another newbie here. I've been reading for a little over a week and I guess

I'm ready to start posting...

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There is a book called, " The New Arthritis Breakthrough " , by Henry Scammell. 

It is really two books in one.  Half way thru the book, is the book called " The

Road Back " by MacPherson Brown, the originator of the " Antibiotic

Protocol " and the discoverer of the L-shaped, cell wall deficient mycoplasma. 

He spent his entire life in research and treating his patients

very successfully with antibiotics of the tetracycline family who had arthritic

diseases. He believed that they are all of an infectious origin. We know so

much more today and know that there are so many other diseases in this

category.  One must first be diagnosed properly before treatment can begin. 

Good luck finding all the info you need and continue to keep us updated.  Many

people on this board have various forms of rheumatic diseases.  So ask away and

someone is sure to know the answer.  Dolores

From: mprice0823 <mprice823@...>

Subject: rheumatic Re: ok, here goes...

rheumatic

Date: Thursday, June 24, 2010, 1:38 PM

 

Thanks everyone for the warm welcome and input. To answer a few questions.....

I live in the suburbs north of Dallas. Any names of drs are AP friendly in my

area would be greatly appreciated.

I have from the beginning thought that I may have Reactive Arthritis. My

rheumatologist said that it's not that because of A) length of time since

illness started and B) erosions evident on x-ray. I'm still not counting it out

at all and will do a little more reading on the subject.

I will do some research on Lyme disease. I know next to nothing about it, but

assumed that people who live in more rural areas are prone to it.

I will check into the dr in Tyler, that is about 2.5 hours from my house.

I *think* I covered everything!

Thanks again!

>

> Another newbie here. I've been reading for a little over a week and I guess

I'm ready to start posting...

>

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Hi ,

Below is an old list I have for MDs in Texas that are familiar with and may

practice AP. El

TEXAS

Larry J. Sharp, D.O. - Family Practice (Possible Lyme doctor from Liz.

Naugle 9-04)

1002 Montgomery St. Suite 103

Ft. Worth, TX 76107

817-732-2878

Rima Jensen, MD (has arthritis/fibromyalgia) (Takes no insurance)

Board Certified Family

1115 Ellis St.

Lufkin, TX 75904

P: (254) 747-0483

F: 254-562-0633

<http://www.drrima.com/> Www.drrima.com

E-mail <mailto:dr@...> dr@...

Will do IV therapy.

Philip B Bandel, M.D. - dermatology 1971 .

911 Lamar Ave.

Paris, TX

P: 903-785-8436

F: 903-785-8445

Barry L. Beaty, D.O. (knows Dr. Weg)

4455 Camp Bowie Blvd.,

Suite 211,

Fort Worth, TX 76107.

P: 817-737-6464.

Rodger B. Haglund, M.D. (Allergy - 1962) (This doctor's wife has RA)

5189 Texas Ave, AMA list shows: 3113 S. 14th St.

Abilene, TX 79605-4529 Abilene. TX

79605

P: 915-695-8090

R. J. Koval, M.D. FP - 1965 (oral only)

8226 Ave. #355

Dallas, TX 75225

P: 214-361-5780

, D.O., (oral and IV)

Integrated Medical

321 E. Spring St.

Palestine, TX 75801

903-723-2325

<http://www.texasncrdoctor.com/> www.integratedmed.us/Laboratory.html

Pharo, D.O.

427 W. 20th St. - Suite 602

Houston TX 77008

P: 713-802-1177

C. Sayers, M.D. - (FP - 1982)

602 Hurst St. Ste 4

Center, TX 75935-3414

P: 936-598-2781

L. Sessoms, M.D. (RHU - 1978) (IV and oral) no listing

Baylor College of Medicine

6550 Fannin

Towers 1057

Houston, TX 77030

P: 713-798-3750

S. Urban, M.D. (IM - 1978

11 Medical Drive

Amarillo, TX 79106

P: 806-355-9741

J. Zashin, M.D. (RHU - 1984) - oral only

8220 Walnut Hill Lane Suite 608 AMA lists: 8240 Walnut

Hill Lane - Ste 818

Dallas, TX 75061

Dallas, TX 75231

214-363-2812

214-692-8591

Pieter J. deWet, M.D., FAAFP- FP - oral & IV AP, chelation, hormone therapy

212 Grande Blvd,

Ste C114,

Tyler, TX 75703.

903-939-2069

Monday thru Friday, 9 am to 5 pm

http://www.dewetwellness.com/

DeWet office mgr.

C. Byron , MD - Retired

Ray Hammon, D.C.

Works under doctor in Rowlett that does chelation

3809 Main St.

Rowlett, TX

P: 972-463-1744

Dr. Alman - no listing

Marshall, TX

Hamid Moayad, D.O. - Has treated Lyme patients - may be open to AP

1305 Airport Freeway - #311

Bedford, TX 76021

817-540-3388

Gonino, D.O. - alternative medicine - darkfield microscopy Moved

5700 Rowlett Rd. #120 treating CFS-FMS - offers IV therapy

Rowlett, TX 75089 May be open to AP

P: 972-475-1500

Ann Block, D.O. -

2621 Matlock Rd. #101

Arlington, TX 76015

P: 817-795-5525

Constance Kotsanis, M.D. (Gus) Open to alternative therapies

Texas Metabolic Medicine

Baylor Professional Bldg. - Suite 260

Grapevine, TX 76051

P: 817-481-6342

F: 817-488-8903

Email:

Gusatwork@...

Lynn L. Bourdon, Jr., M.D. - address may be inaccurate

307 W. Upshur Ave sends patients to Dr deWet for testing

Gladwater, TX 75647 sends patients to Longview Hospital for

IVs.

P: 903-845-2159 2 per day for 6 days then 1 per week

for a month

P: 903-758-2610 then 1 every other week for a month.

P: 903-845-3411

Pickrell, M.D. (RHU)

The Austin Diagnostic Clinic

12221 Mopac Expressway North

Austin, TX

P: 512-901-4018

A. Braun, M.D. (FP - 1966) probably retired

General Delivery

le, TX 75771

_____

From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On Behalf

Of mprice0823

Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 1:39 PM

rheumatic

Subject: rheumatic Re: ok, here goes...

Thanks everyone for the warm welcome and input. To answer a few

questions.....

I live in the suburbs north of Dallas. Any names of drs are AP friendly in

my area would be greatly appreciated.

I have from the beginning thought that I may have Reactive Arthritis. My

rheumatologist said that it's not that because of A) length of time since

illness started and B) erosions evident on x-ray. I'm still not counting it

out at all and will do a little more reading on the subject.

I will do some research on Lyme disease. I know next to nothing about it,

but assumed that people who live in more rural areas are prone to it.

I will check into the dr in Tyler, that is about 2.5 hours from my house.

I *think* I covered everything!

Thanks again!

>

> Another newbie here. I've been reading for a little over a week and I

guess I'm ready to start posting...

>

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Hi from Australia,

Just letting you also know about the movie/dvd regarding Lyme. I would suggest

you have a look.

Here is the link ::

www.underourskin.com

Maz

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I'm ready to start posting...

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Please change info for Dr. Rima Jensen to:

 

Rima Kittley MD (has arthritis/fibromyal gia) >

 Board Certified Family > >

 1105 West Ave. suite 260 > >

 Lufkin, TX 75904 > >

 P:936-634-5699 >

F:936-634-5659 >

 

Eva

From: ehgooding <ehgooding@...>

Subject: RE: rheumatic Re: ok, here goes...

rheumatic

Date: Thursday, June 24, 2010, 4:23 PM

 

Hi ,

Below is an old list I have for MDs in Texas that are familiar with and may

practice AP. El

TEXAS

Larry J. Sharp, D.O. - Family Practice (Possible Lyme doctor from Liz.

Naugle 9-04)

1002 Montgomery St. Suite 103

Ft. Worth, TX 76107

817-732-2878

Rima Jensen, MD (has arthritis/fibromyalgia) (Takes no insurance)

Board Certified Family

1115 Ellis St.

Lufkin, TX 75904

P: (254) 747-0483

F: 254-562-0633

<http://www.drrima.com/> Www.drrima.com

E-mail <mailto:dr@...> dr@...

Will do IV therapy.

Philip B Bandel, M.D. - dermatology 1971 .

911 Lamar Ave.

Paris, TX

P: 903-785-8436

F: 903-785-8445

Barry L. Beaty, D.O. (knows Dr. Weg)

4455 Camp Bowie Blvd.,

Suite 211,

Fort Worth, TX 76107.

P: 817-737-6464.

Rodger B. Haglund, M.D. (Allergy - 1962) (This doctor's wife has RA)

5189 Texas Ave, AMA list shows: 3113 S. 14th St.

Abilene, TX 79605-4529 Abilene. TX

79605

P: 915-695-8090

R. J. Koval, M.D. FP - 1965 (oral only)

8226 Ave. #355

Dallas, TX 75225

P: 214-361-5780

, D.O., (oral and IV)

Integrated Medical

321 E. Spring St.

Palestine, TX 75801

903-723-2325

<http://www.texasncrdoctor.com/> www.integratedmed.us/Laboratory.html

Pharo, D.O.

427 W. 20th St. - Suite 602

Houston TX 77008

P: 713-802-1177

C. Sayers, M.D. - (FP - 1982)

602 Hurst St. Ste 4

Center, TX 75935-3414

P: 936-598-2781

L. Sessoms, M.D. (RHU - 1978) (IV and oral) no listing

Baylor College of Medicine

6550 Fannin

Towers 1057

Houston, TX 77030

P: 713-798-3750

S. Urban, M.D. (IM - 1978

11 Medical Drive

Amarillo, TX 79106

P: 806-355-9741

J. Zashin, M.D. (RHU - 1984) - oral only

8220 Walnut Hill Lane Suite 608 AMA lists: 8240 Walnut

Hill Lane - Ste 818

Dallas, TX 75061

Dallas, TX 75231

214-363-2812

214-692-8591

Pieter J. deWet, M.D., FAAFP- FP - oral & IV AP, chelation, hormone therapy

212 Grande Blvd,

Ste C114,

Tyler, TX 75703.

903-939-2069

Monday thru Friday, 9 am to 5 pm

http://www.dewetwellness.com/

DeWet office mgr.

C. Byron , MD - Retired

Ray Hammon, D.C.

Works under doctor in Rowlett that does chelation

3809 Main St.

Rowlett, TX

P: 972-463-1744

Dr. Alman - no listing

Marshall, TX

Hamid Moayad, D.O. - Has treated Lyme patients - may be open to AP

1305 Airport Freeway - #311

Bedford, TX 76021

817-540-3388

Gonino, D.O. - alternative medicine - darkfield microscopy Moved

5700 Rowlett Rd. #120 treating CFS-FMS - offers IV therapy

Rowlett, TX 75089 May be open to AP

P: 972-475-1500

Ann Block, D.O. -

2621 Matlock Rd. #101

Arlington, TX 76015

P: 817-795-5525

Constance Kotsanis, M.D. (Gus) Open to alternative therapies

Texas Metabolic Medicine

Baylor Professional Bldg. - Suite 260

Grapevine, TX 76051

P: 817-481-6342

F: 817-488-8903

Email:

Gusatwork@...

Lynn L. Bourdon, Jr., M.D. - address may be inaccurate

307 W. Upshur Ave sends patients to Dr deWet for testing

Gladwater, TX 75647 sends patients to Longview Hospital for

IVs.

P: 903-845-2159 2 per day for 6 days then 1 per week

for a month

P: 903-758-2610 then 1 every other week for a month.

P: 903-845-3411

Pickrell, M.D. (RHU)

The Austin Diagnostic Clinic

12221 Mopac Expressway North

Austin, TX

P: 512-901-4018

A. Braun, M.D. (FP - 1966) probably retired

General Delivery

le, TX 75771

_____

From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On Behalf

Of mprice0823

Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 1:39 PM

rheumatic

Subject: rheumatic Re: ok, here goes...

Thanks everyone for the warm welcome and input. To answer a few

questions.....

I live in the suburbs north of Dallas. Any names of drs are AP friendly in

my area would be greatly appreciated.

I have from the beginning thought that I may have Reactive Arthritis. My

rheumatologist said that it's not that because of A) length of time since

illness started and B) erosions evident on x-ray. I'm still not counting it

out at all and will do a little more reading on the subject.

I will do some research on Lyme disease. I know next to nothing about it,

but assumed that people who live in more rural areas are prone to it.

I will check into the dr in Tyler, that is about 2.5 hours from my house.

I *think* I covered everything!

Thanks again!

>

> Another newbie here. I've been reading for a little over a week and I

guess I'm ready to start posting...

>

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I don;t know how far Dr. Kittley is from you, she is very good and is in Lufkin,

TX. here is her info.

Rima Kittley MD (has arthritis/fibromyal gia0

 > Board Certified Family

> > 1105 West Ave. suite 260

> > Lufkin, TX 75904

 > > P:936-634-5699

> F:936-634-5659 >

 

Eva

From: mprice0823 <mprice823@...>

Subject: rheumatic Re: ok, here goes...

rheumatic

Date: Thursday, June 24, 2010, 12:38 PM

 

Thanks everyone for the warm welcome and input. To answer a few questions.....

I live in the suburbs north of Dallas. Any names of drs are AP friendly in my

area would be greatly appreciated.

I have from the beginning thought that I may have Reactive Arthritis. My

rheumatologist said that it's not that because of A) length of time since

illness started and B) erosions evident on x-ray. I'm still not counting it out

at all and will do a little more reading on the subject.

I will do some research on Lyme disease. I know next to nothing about it, but

assumed that people who live in more rural areas are prone to it.

I will check into the dr in Tyler, that is about 2.5 hours from my house.

I *think* I covered everything!

Thanks again!

>

> Another newbie here. I've been reading for a little over a week and I guess

I'm ready to start posting...

>

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