RE: Please Help me with Adrenal/Thyroid Problems...Very Long

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Morning 2 depressed

noon 9 normal

5pm 15 elevated

midnight elevated

Just your AM levels of cortiosl should have the flags flying for adrenal fatigue

if your doctor had a clue, which obviously he doesn't. I would either be hunting

anopther doctor or self treating this wiht HC. By taking some HC in the AM it

will not only raise your levels where they shoudl be but it will also lower your

ACTh which will lower your too high afternoon and night time levels.

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Have you looked for doctors in your area here:

http://www.thyroid-info.com/topdrs/

There is also a site where you can check for doctors who will prescribe

Armour, but I don't have the link. You can also try asking around at

pharmacies to see if you can find someone else who will prescribe Armour in

your area. Hope you feel better soon!

Cherie

Experience: that most brutal of teachers. But you learn, my God do you

learn.--C.S.

> My Endo doc only does TSH tests and I am only with him because I get

> the Armour Thyroid, which no other doc will agree to give me even if I

> am already taking it, and its the only thyroid med that has helped up

> until now, cause I don't understand why its bouncing back and forth.

>

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Cherie

My doc is a TOP DOC listed on that site that is how I have found him.

But in my own opinion..He Shouldn't be listed there, as the only good

thing he has done for me is prescribe Armour. Other than that he only

tests TSH, and doesn't listen to any of my concerns.

Donna

>

> Have you looked for doctors in your area here:

>

> http://www.thyroid-info.com/topdrs/

>

> There is also a site where you can check for doctors who will prescribe

> Armour, but I don't have the link. You can also try asking around at

> pharmacies to see if you can find someone else who will prescribe

Armour in

> your area. Hope you feel better soon!

>

> Cherie

>

> Experience: that most brutal of teachers. But you learn, my God do you

> learn.--C.S.

>

> > My Endo doc only does TSH tests and I am only with him because I get

> > the Armour Thyroid, which no other doc will agree to give me even if I

> > am already taking it, and its the only thyroid med that has helped up

> > until now, cause I don't understand why its bouncing back and forth.

> >

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Val'

Can you tell me if the Adrenals are messed up will that also mess with

someone having episodes of hypoglycemia and also the armour not

working, I mean where the armour works for awhile then the tsh shoots

back up on them?

Donna

>

> Morning 2 depressed

> noon 9 normal

> 5pm 15 elevated

> midnight elevated

>

> Just your AM levels of cortiosl should have the flags flying for

adrenal fatigue if your doctor had a clue, which obviously he doesn't.

I would either be hunting anopther doctor or self treating this wiht

HC. By taking some HC in the AM it will not only raise your levels

where they shoudl be but it will also lower your ACTh which will lower

your too high afternoon and night time levels.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

[Guest guest]

Donna,

Since those Cortisol saliva labs were done in April, and you have

undergone much stress in the last few months - I would redo the saliva

labs on your own while you try to find a doc to treat your adrenals.

That way you'll have a head start with new doc. Much could have changed

since April with all that stress. And once you begin HC you will not be

able to test cortisol without going off the HC.

I had many of your specific symptoms, especially the inability to handle

the littlest stress (I would totally come apart). Was barely

functioning by the time I found out about adrenal fatigue. My cortisol

was very low in the am, and non-existent the rest of the day! I am

doing much better now on 22.5mg HC (still ramping up). You have a ways

to go, but there is much hope for you, especially with being on this

great list!

-Sharon

Donna wrote:

>

> Now I did order the saliva tests from Diagnos-tech last april and

> those test results are below...BUT AGAIN MY DOCS HERE IN MINNESOTA

> DON'T BELIEVE IN THESE TESTS (SALIVA).

>

> TSH 72 normal 26-85

> FT4 0.37 normal 0.17-0.42

> FT3 0.62 normal 0.28-1.10

> TPO Positive

>

> Estradiol 20 normal

> Progesterone 243 normal

> Free Testosterone 31 elevated

>

> Cortisol

> Morning 2 depressed

> noon 9 normal

> 5pm 15 elevated

> midnight elevated

> Cortisol Burden 37 with norms between 23-42

>

> DHEA 7 normal

[Guest guest]

>>Can you tell me if the Adrenals are messed up will that also mess with

someone having episodes of hypoglycemia and also the armour not

working, I mean where the armour works for awhile then the tsh shoots

back up on them?<<

Absiolutely! As cortioslk goes too low the hypoglycemia gets worse as it is

cortiosl that causes a release of glucagon from the liver to carry your normal

glucose in between meals. When your adrneals are able ot muster enough cortisl

the thyroid get sto the cell, it doens;t all stop at once so period when it gets

ot the ells an then periods when it doesn;t are common. This can rise and lower

TSH as can thyroid antibodies destroying the htyroid. As parts are destroyed

they rlease their hormones in that particular tiussue and you can actually go

hyoper thne once that tissue;s thyroid hormones are used up you go back hypo.

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http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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Hi Donna - I'm sorry to hear about your doctor troubles, we've all had

similar problems trying to find a doctor who will listen. I'm from

Wisconsin and currently seeing Dr. Debra Muth at the Spring City

Health Centre (www.springcityhealthcentre.com) in Waukesha. I'm not

sure how far away this is for you but they are up to speed on proper

thyroid testing and Adrenal Fatigue treatment (and they take my Blue

Cross Blue Shield too).

I hope you can find the help you need!

Joann

>

> Cherie

> My doc is a TOP DOC listed on that site that is how I have found him.

> But in my own opinion..He Shouldn't be listed there, as the only good

> thing he has done for me is prescribe Armour. Other than that he only

> tests TSH, and doesn't listen to any of my concerns.

> Donna

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Donna - I'm sorry to hear about your doctor troubles, we've all had

similar problems trying to find a doctor who will listen. I'm from

Wisconsin and currently seeing Dr. Debra Muth at the Spring City

Health Centre (www.springcityhealthcentre.com) in Waukesha. I'm not

sure how far away this is for you but they are up to speed on proper

thyroid testing and Adrenal Fatigue treatment (and they take my Blue

Cross Blue Shield too).

I hope you can find the help you need!

Joann

>

> Cherie

> My doc is a TOP DOC listed on that site that is how I have found him.

> But in my own opinion..He Shouldn't be listed there, as the only good

> thing he has done for me is prescribe Armour. Other than that he only

> tests TSH, and doesn't listen to any of my concerns.

> Donna

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Donna - I'm sorry to hear about your doctor troubles, we've all had

similar problems trying to find a doctor who will listen. I'm from

Wisconsin and currently seeing Dr. Debra Muth at the Spring City

Health Centre (www.springcityhealthcentre.com) in Waukesha. I'm not

sure how far away this is for you but they are up to speed on proper

thyroid testing and Adrenal Fatigue treatment (and they take my Blue

Cross Blue Shield too).

I hope you can find the help you need!

Joann

>

> Cherie

> My doc is a TOP DOC listed on that site that is how I have found him.

> But in my own opinion..He Shouldn't be listed there, as the only good

> thing he has done for me is prescribe Armour. Other than that he only

> tests TSH, and doesn't listen to any of my concerns.

> Donna

>

[Guest guest]

Maybe he got on there just for being willing to prescribe the Armour... You

might think about writing in and letting them know how is is treating. It

certainly doesn't sound like he belongs on there.

Cherie

Experience: that most brutal of teachers. But you learn, my God do you

learn.--C.S.

>

>

> Cherie

> My doc is a TOP DOC listed on that site that is how I have found him.

> But in my own opinion..He Shouldn't be listed there, as the only good

> thing he has done for me is prescribe Armour. Other than that he only

> tests TSH, and doesn't listen to any of my concerns.

> Donna

>

>

>

>

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