RE: a few questions before beginning AP

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Lucky girl to find a doc who will do antibiotics. It's never too late but OH

HOW I WISH you would have stayed on antibiotics from 6-7 yrs ago.

I would not worry about candida except to use Diflucan once a week till the

leaky gut gets better. Get on the probiotics now and double the dose.

How do you know you have leaky gut and candida? WELL.when that goes away you

will know you are in control of them. They never go away. Especially on

antibiotics and cortisone. All you can do is keep them in their own little

box <under control>

I personally would go for Minocin non generic. Doxy is OK for some people

but with your problems.go for the best. I do know that doxy made me more sun

burn susceptible and also made my yeast worse. Some people do not have this

problem but I did. Also take Minocin only MWF 100mgms AMam and !00 mgms PM.

I don't know about how long the antibiotics stay in your system but I feel

after reading many stories that Minocin works better in most cases.

I would see if you can get a week of Diflucan and get on nystatin. Diflucan

is for skin candida and nystatin is for tissue candida. Try to call your doc

and just ask.all he can say is no!

Best of luck and understand these are only my OPINION.I an not a doctor <I

only play one on TV.LOL> :-))))

Cooky

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From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On Behalf

Of

Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 2:03 PM

rheumatic

Subject: rheumatic a few questions before beginning AP

I finally have located a doctor in our remote area who said he will

prescribe AP. I have had RA for nearly 20 years and will turn 40

this year. I have excessive deformity (both ankles, curled hands,

extremely painful hip that probably needs replaced), but a strong

will. Other than RA, which is a biggie, my health is good.

I refuse to think that it's too late for me, though that thought

tickles the back of my mind regularly. I have three children

aged 5-11 who need their mommy and a husband of 15 years who never

complains but would, I'm sure, enjoy a healthier wife. I've been

able to function and mostly ignore the pain until the last year or

so. I'm ready to take care of myself.

Blah blah blah. Enough of that and onto my questions:

I've taken lots of prednisone and am pretty certain I already

struggle with Candida. I began taking digestive enzymes along with

supplements to repair leaky gut (L-Glutamine, Olive Leaf Extract &

Slippery Elm) along with a multi-vitamin & extra vit. C to ramp up my

immune system. I haven't begun probiotics.

1. How imperative is it that I have Candida & Leaky Gut under

control before I begin AP?

2. How will I know if Candida and Leaky Gut are under control?

The arthritis is in a constant flare right now and moving into my

upper spine, which frightens me. Spinal involvement means eventual

paralysis in my mind. My point: I don't want to wait much longer.

I started AP six or seven years ago, then stopped & had baby number

three...before most of this deformity. Baby was born with a brain

defect and special needs. I tell this only to explain why I've

waited this long, realizing now that I should have re-started AP

immediately. Hindsight is 20/20 and all that.

My doctor wants me to take doxy instead of Minocin, saying that it

remains in the system longer and therefore can kill more of the

buggers. Observing my body as I've taken enzymes, it seems as though

my body needs ample opportunity to detox. With that in mind...

3. Would you recommend Minocin or doxy?

4. Am I understanding the difference correctly: that the Minocin

dose loses it's potency more quickly than the doxy dose?

My appointment is April 25, at which I expect to receive the AP

prescription.

5. Do you have any suggestions as to what else I can do in the next

two weeks to be ready?

A month or two ago I read a thread on this group about hormone

imbalance. I have also addressed that and am enjoying those

improvements.

Thanks in advance for your time,

S. --not the same who has been posting recently

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the reply Cooky.

I'm not positive I have yeast or leaky gut. I used to suffer from obvious

regular yeast infections, but that ceased over a year ago, though I hadn't done

anything to solve the problem & still took prednisone. I crave carbohydrates.

I assume the Candida is hiding there somewhere given my long-term prednisone

use.

I think I have Leaky Gut because eating makes me lethargic & foggy (hence I

weigh 102 pounds), but I know those symptoms don't necessarily equal Leaky Gut.

I have read numerous posts regarding LG and decided to cover all my bases early.

I know you're not a doctor. I haven't seen you on TV...have I? <smile>

However, with this protocol, experience ranks right up there with formal

education in my books, so I appreciate your input. Are you suggesting BOTH

Diflucan and Nystatin, simultaneously?

I'm quite nervous about the " feeling worse before I feel better " element. If

I feel much worse, I'll be non-functioning.

Many, many thanks,

S.

C Stonkey <cookee1@...> wrote:

Lucky girl to find a doc who will do antibiotics. It's never too late

but OH

HOW I WISH you would have stayed on antibiotics from 6-7 yrs ago.

I would not worry about candida except to use Diflucan once a week till the

leaky gut gets better. Get on the probiotics now and double the dose.

How do you know you have leaky gut and candida? WELL.when that goes away you

will know you are in control of them. They never go away. Especially on

antibiotics and cortisone. All you can do is keep them in their own little

box <under control>

I personally would go for Minocin non generic. Doxy is OK for some people

but with your problems.go for the best. I do know that doxy made me more sun

burn susceptible and also made my yeast worse. Some people do not have this

problem but I did. Also take Minocin only MWF 100mgms AMam and !00 mgms PM.

I don't know about how long the antibiotics stay in your system but I feel

after reading many stories that Minocin works better in most cases.

I would see if you can get a week of Diflucan and get on nystatin. Diflucan

is for skin candida and nystatin is for tissue candida. Try to call your doc

and just ask.all he can say is no!

Best of luck and understand these are only my OPINION.I an not a doctor <I

only play one on TV.LOL> :-))))

Cooky

_____

From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On Behalf

Of

Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 2:03 PM

rheumatic

Subject: rheumatic a few questions before beginning AP

I finally have located a doctor in our remote area who said he will

prescribe AP. I have had RA for nearly 20 years and will turn 40

this year. I have excessive deformity (both ankles, curled hands,

extremely painful hip that probably needs replaced), but a strong

will. Other than RA, which is a biggie, my health is good.

I refuse to think that it's too late for me, though that thought

tickles the back of my mind regularly. I have three children

aged 5-11 who need their mommy and a husband of 15 years who never

complains but would, I'm sure, enjoy a healthier wife. I've been

able to function and mostly ignore the pain until the last year or

so. I'm ready to take care of myself.

Blah blah blah. Enough of that and onto my questions:

I've taken lots of prednisone and am pretty certain I already

struggle with Candida. I began taking digestive enzymes along with

supplements to repair leaky gut (L-Glutamine, Olive Leaf Extract &

Slippery Elm) along with a multi-vitamin & extra vit. C to ramp up my

immune system. I haven't begun probiotics.

1. How imperative is it that I have Candida & Leaky Gut under

control before I begin AP?

2. How will I know if Candida and Leaky Gut are under control?

The arthritis is in a constant flare right now and moving into my

upper spine, which frightens me. Spinal involvement means eventual

paralysis in my mind. My point: I don't want to wait much longer.

I started AP six or seven years ago, then stopped & had baby number

three...before most of this deformity. Baby was born with a brain

defect and special needs. I tell this only to explain why I've

waited this long, realizing now that I should have re-started AP

immediately. Hindsight is 20/20 and all that.

My doctor wants me to take doxy instead of Minocin, saying that it

remains in the system longer and therefore can kill more of the

buggers. Observing my body as I've taken enzymes, it seems as though

my body needs ample opportunity to detox. With that in mind...

3. Would you recommend Minocin or doxy?

4. Am I understanding the difference correctly: that the Minocin

dose loses it's potency more quickly than the doxy dose?

My appointment is April 25, at which I expect to receive the AP

prescription.

5. Do you have any suggestions as to what else I can do in the next

two weeks to be ready?

A month or two ago I read a thread on this group about hormone

imbalance. I have also addressed that and am enjoying those

improvements.

Thanks in advance for your time,

S. --not the same who has been posting recently

[Guest guest]

Answers in your message

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From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On Behalf

Of

Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:26 AM

rheumatic

Subject: RE: rheumatic a few questions before beginning AP

Thanks for the reply Cooky.

I'm not positive I have yeast or leaky gut. I used to suffer from obvious

regular yeast infections, but that ceased over a year ago, though I hadn't

done anything to solve the problem & still took prednisone. I crave

carbohydrates. I assume the Candida is hiding there somewhere given my

long-term prednisone use. OH I WOULD SAY YOU HAVE CANDIDA DEFINITELY. THE

CRAVING TIPPED ME OFF!!

I think I have Leaky Gut because eating makes me lethargic & foggy (hence I

weigh 102 pounds), but I know those symptoms don't necessarily equal Leaky

Gut. I have read numerous posts regarding LG and decided to cover all my

bases early.

OK SO YOU PROBABLY HAVE IT BUT IF YOU KEEP ON THE SUPPLEMENTS YOU WILL BE

OK. I THINK THE RHEUMATOID MAY HAVE A LOT TO DO WITH THESE SYMPTOMS ALSO.

I know you're not a doctor. I haven't seen you on TV...have I? <smile><BIG

GRIN> However, with this protocol, experience ranks right up there with

formal education in my books, so I appreciate your input. Are you suggesting

BOTH Diflucan and Nystatin, simultaneously?

BEFORE I EVER HAD RHEUMATOID I HAD MAJOR YEAST PROBLEMS THAT NO DOCTOR WOULD

EVER ADDRESS BECAUSE OF THE CAUSTIC PROBLEMS WITH THE ANTIFUNGALS IN THAT

DAY. I HEARD DOC GOLDSTEIN WHEN HE GIVE A TALK ON CANDIDA AND MADE AN APP.

HE AGREED THAT I HAD SYSTEMIC YEAST AND PUT ME ON (BEEN ALONG TIME SO THE

PROTOCOL IS HAZY) A WEEK OF DIFLUCAN AND 2 WEEKS OF NYSTATIN. THEN 2 WEEKS

OF EACH THEN I WAS TO STAY ON NYSTATIN FOR AS LONG AS NEEDED. AFTER I WAS

DXED WITH RHEUMATOID I TOOK DIFLUCAN PERIODICALLY AND DID WEEKS OF NYSTATIN.

I WOULD SUGGEST A WEEK OF DIFLUCAN THEN NYSTATIN FOR AT LEAST A MONTH. THEN

DIFLUCAN AS NEEDED. I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO TAKE THEM TOGETHER. THAT MAY

BE TOO MUCH FOR YOUR LIVER. OH AND WHILE YOU ARE ON THEN YOU SHOULD TAKE

MILK THISTLE FOR YOUR LIVER. THIS WOULD ALSO BE GOOD TO CONTINUE ALL THE

WHILE ON ANTIBIOTICS.

I'm quite nervous about the " feeling worse before I feel better " element. If

I feel much worse, I'll be non-functioning. YOU MAY NOT FEEL WORSE. SOME

PEOPLE DO NOT.THEY JUST START TO GET BETTER RIGHT AWAY. OR YOUR WORSE MAY

ONLY BE A LITTLE MORE PAIN AT FIRST. YOU WILL BE BETTER OFF STARTING ASAP

RATHER THAN SIT THERE AND GET WORSE! I WILL SAY MUCHO PRAYERS FOR YOU. I

HAVE A LIST OF MY RHEUMATIC FRIENDS!

Keep me posted of your progress.

Hugs

Cooky

Many, many thanks,

S.

C Stonkey <cookee1comcast (DOT) <mailto:cookee1%40comcast.net> net> wrote:

Lucky girl to find a doc who will do antibiotics. It's never too late but OH

HOW I WISH you would have stayed on antibiotics from 6-7 yrs ago.

I would not worry about candida except to use Diflucan once a week till the

leaky gut gets better. Get on the probiotics now and double the dose.

How do you know you have leaky gut and candida? WELL.when that goes away you

will know you are in control of them. They never go away. Especially on

antibiotics and cortisone. All you can do is keep them in their own little

box <under control>

I personally would go for Minocin non generic. Doxy is OK for some people

but with your problems.go for the best. I do know that doxy made me more sun

burn susceptible and also made my yeast worse. Some people do not have this

problem but I did. Also take Minocin only MWF 100mgms AMam and !00 mgms PM.

I don't know about how long the antibiotics stay in your system but I feel

after reading many stories that Minocin works better in most cases.

I would see if you can get a week of Diflucan and get on nystatin. Diflucan

is for skin candida and nystatin is for tissue candida. Try to call your doc

and just ask.all he can say is no!

Best of luck and understand these are only my OPINION.I an not a doctor <I

only play one on TV.LOL> :-))))

Cooky

_____

From: rheumatic@grou <mailto:rheumatic%40> ps.com

[mailto:rheumatic@grou <mailto:rheumatic%40> ps.com] On

Behalf

Of

Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 2:03 PM

rheumatic@grou <mailto:rheumatic%40> ps.com

Subject: rheumatic a few questions before beginning AP

I finally have located a doctor in our remote area who said he will

prescribe AP. I have had RA for nearly 20 years and will turn 40

this year. I have excessive deformity (both ankles, curled hands,

extremely painful hip that probably needs replaced), but a strong

will. Other than RA, which is a biggie, my health is good.

I refuse to think that it's too late for me, though that thought

tickles the back of my mind regularly. I have three children

aged 5-11 who need their mommy and a husband of 15 years who never

complains but would, I'm sure, enjoy a healthier wife. I've been

able to function and mostly ignore the pain until the last year or

so. I'm ready to take care of myself.

Blah blah blah. Enough of that and onto my questions:

I've taken lots of prednisone and am pretty certain I already

struggle with Candida. I began taking digestive enzymes along with

supplements to repair leaky gut (L-Glutamine, Olive Leaf Extract &

Slippery Elm) along with a multi-vitamin & extra vit. C to ramp up my

immune system. I haven't begun probiotics.

1. How imperative is it that I have Candida & Leaky Gut under

control before I begin AP?

2. How will I know if Candida and Leaky Gut are under control?

The arthritis is in a constant flare right now and moving into my

upper spine, which frightens me. Spinal involvement means eventual

paralysis in my mind. My point: I don't want to wait much longer.

I started AP six or seven years ago, then stopped & had baby number

three...before most of this deformity. Baby was born with a brain

defect and special needs. I tell this only to explain why I've

waited this long, realizing now that I should have re-started AP

immediately. Hindsight is 20/20 and all that.

My doctor wants me to take doxy instead of Minocin, saying that it

remains in the system longer and therefore can kill more of the

buggers. Observing my body as I've taken enzymes, it seems as though

my body needs ample opportunity to detox. With that in mind...

3. Would you recommend Minocin or doxy?

4. Am I understanding the difference correctly: that the Minocin

dose loses it's potency more quickly than the doxy dose?

My appointment is April 25, at which I expect to receive the AP

prescription.

5. Do you have any suggestions as to what else I can do in the next

two weeks to be ready?

A month or two ago I read a thread on this group about hormone

imbalance. I have also addressed that and am enjoying those

improvements.

Thanks in advance for your time,

S. --not the same who has been posting recently