Guest guest Posted March 20, 2002 Report Share Posted March 20, 2002 Carmen Do you happen to know what it is about White Oak bark that helped your dad? Sonja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2002 Report Share Posted March 20, 2002 Wouldn't surprise me. White oak bark is specific for teeth and gums. Bianca On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:03:32 -0800 " Carmen " <ctn@...> writes: Seems like I remember people on this every list having their fillings actually fall out. Forgive me if I'm remembering incorrectly. Seems like it also had to do with White Oak Bark?? Anyone?? C armen <<<< No no no, your fillings most likely will not fall out. People (including me) would remove their fillings and then have the teeth remineralize over.>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2002 Report Share Posted March 21, 2002 I'd LOVE to have my fillings fall out! Where can I get " white oak bark " and how do I use it -- anyone know? BTW, this is funny because we used to refer to people who ate " healthy " as " bark nibblers " C. ----- Original Message ----- From: bianca3@... Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 5:42 PM Subject: Re: remineralizing teeth Wouldn't surprise me. White oak bark is specific for teeth and gums. Bianca On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:03:32 -0800 " Carmen " <ctn@...> writes: Seems like I remember people on this every list having their fillings actually fall out. Forgive me if I'm remembering incorrectly. Seems like it also had to do with White Oak Bark?? Anyone?? C armen <<<< No no no, your fillings most likely will not fall out. People (including me) would remove their fillings and then have the teeth remineralize over.>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2002 Report Share Posted March 21, 2002 At 10:06 AM 3/21/2002 -0600, you wrote: >Where can I get " white oak bark " and how do I use it -- anyone know? I'd recommend starting by searching the internet to see what formulas are out there for sale. I found lots of sites with formulas containing white oak bark and other ingredients. Today, it seems, it might not be possible to find raw white oak bark that you can chew on (at least I could not find it for sale). One site had a listing of herbs, their actions and indications and white oak bark had some nice actions such as anti-viral, astringent, etc. I agree with Bianca - alone the white oak bark probably isn't all that effective. However, combine that with other things (see Bianca's post about tincture ingredients) and a good mineral-rich diet and it can all add up to healing. Regards, -=mark=- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2002 Report Share Posted March 21, 2002 Bianca- >I >used a tincture that contained bayberry rootbark, oak gall, tea tree oil, >echinacea root, cayenne pepper and peppermint oil. Unfortunately, tea tree oil is apparently neurotoxic and to be avoided. I would like to find a good white oak bark preparation to accelerate my cavity remineralization, though. (I never had any of my cavities drilled and filled, so the results ought to be more pleasing for me... I hope.) Do you know whether it's most effective used topically, as a tincture, as a powder, or consumed internally? >If there is one >thing we can take away from the work of Dr. Price, it is that *food* is >the foundation of health, not vitamins, not drugs, and not herbs used >like drugs. That is true, but with soil fertility being so poor nowadays, I don't know whether it's possible to get optimum nutrition entirely from whole foods. To be sure, most vitamin and mineral supplements are garbage, but the few good ones may be increasingly necessary nowadays, at least for people without access to the produce of the few superbly fertile farms that remain. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2002 Report Share Posted March 21, 2002 I've always had the best results with any herb whole, encapsulated internally taken. Teas have a lesser effect. In this case its a bark so it needs to be decocted. To decoct boil water, 1 cup water for each cup tea wanted, once it boils add one teaspoon bark for each cup, shut heat off, cover pan, let sit for at least 20 minutes to extract medicinal qualities, and strain. Can be stored in a glass jar in fridge for up to 2 days. I don't see any purpose personally in tinctures because of the alcohol. A naturalist/artist friend in town said he'd searched the entire town for white oak for acorn flour and couldn't find one. I did find one behind parent's house. Used to be common. If I can find out how and when to harvest without hurting this old white oak I'll have some. Wanita At 05:17 PM 3/21/02 -0500, wrote: >Unfortunately, tea tree oil is apparently neurotoxic and to be avoided. I >would like to find a good white oak bark preparation to accelerate my >cavity remineralization, though. (I never had any of my cavities drilled >and filled, so the results ought to be more pleasing for me... I hope.) Do >you know whether it's most effective used topically, as a tincture, as a >powder, or consumed internally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2002 Report Share Posted March 24, 2002 >> Do you happen to know what it is about White Oak bark that helped your dad? I think it's supposed to be very high in calcium, for one? Other than that I'm not sure. ~ Carma ~ To be perpetually talking sense runs out the mind, as perpetually ploughing and taking crops runs out the land. The mind must be manured, and nonsense is very good for the purpose. ~ Boswell Carma's Corner: http://www.users.qwest.net/~carmapaden/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2002 Report Share Posted March 25, 2002 At 11:11 AM 3/24/02 -0700, you wrote: >>> Do you happen to know what it is about White Oak bark that helped >your dad? > >I think it's supposed to be very high in calcium, for one? Other than >that I'm not sure. > >~ Carma ~ Today's Herbal Health by Louise Tenney lists white oak bark as containing B12, calcium, phosphorus, potassium, iodine, sulphur, iron, sodium, cobalt, lead, stontium and tin. Wanita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2002 Report Share Posted March 27, 2002 On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 17:17:41 -0500 Idol <Idol@...> writes: Bianca- >I >used a tincture that contained bayberry rootbark, oak gall, tea tree oil, >echinacea root, cayenne pepper and peppermint oil. Unfortunately, tea tree oil is apparently neurotoxic and to be avoided. I would like to find a good white oak bark preparation to accelerate my cavity remineralization, though. (I never had any of my cavities drilled and filled, so the results ought to be more pleasing for me... I hope.) Do you know whether it's most effective used topically, as a tincture, as a powder, or consumed internally? ME: , I would not worry about the tea tree oil in the tincture. I have never known anyone to have a problem with it. One of the reasons my colleagues were often exasperated with me is that I would continue to use herbs that the FDA said were dangerous, like lobelia, cascara sagrada and others. But those herbs worked and in my clinical experience. I *never* had a problem with any of them. Of course checking out the various studies alluded too often revealed serious defects somewhere along the line and I just kept moving ahead with my work in dealing with " incurable " people. The best way to use most herbs is in tincture form. This way you don't have to worry about digestion not being up to par and the herb immediately gets into the system. Unfortunately nearly all retail formulas stink so your best bet is to learn to make your own *industrial strength* tinctures. Your next best bet is 1 800 HERBDOC. But if you don't want tea tree oil in the formula you will have to make your own. The tooth and gum formula is used topically with a water pik several times a day. >If there is one >thing we can take away from the work of Dr. Price, it is that *food* is >the foundation of health, not vitamins, not drugs, and not herbs used >like drugs. That is true, but with soil fertility being so poor nowadays, I don't know whether it's possible to get optimum nutrition entirely from whole foods. To be sure, most vitamin and mineral supplements are garbage, but the few good ones may be increasingly necessary nowadays, at least for people without access to the produce of the few superbly fertile farms that remain. ME: I'm not sure about optimum nutrition, but from my experience is was/is possible to get people well on sub par raw animal foods with a little judicious " supplementation " of organs, greens from the sea, fresh herbal tinctures and juices. Not ideal but it did happen. Not once did I ever resort to what people normally refer to as " supplements " In fact they often hindered the process. Bianca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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