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Hi:)

I can tell you that from my own experience that getting off the

methotrexate, plaquenil, etc., was the best gift I have ever given myself. I

am slowly

tapering off of celebrex and prednisone. And, my body is responding so well.

I still have the earlier battle scars--the hip replacements, knee

replacement, hand and feet surgeries that tell the outside world that my

diagnosis was

once rheumatoid with lupus tendencies. But, on antibiotics, my deforming has

stopped, and do I ever feel better.

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Congratulation: The feeling of well being is the greatest gift when we have had

to battle so hard to get there. ~~~~continue getting better. The best to you,

~~~~Dolores & Mike

kjdel1977@... wrote: Hi:)

I can tell you that from my own experience that getting off the

methotrexate, plaquenil, etc., was the best gift I have ever given myself. I am

slowly

tapering off of celebrex and prednisone. And, my body is responding so well.

I still have the earlier battle scars--the hip replacements, knee

replacement, hand and feet surgeries that tell the outside world that my

diagnosis was

once rheumatoid with lupus tendencies. But, on antibiotics, my deforming has

stopped, and do I ever feel better.

I wish all of us could be better.

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Why do RA doctors not use A/P? It does work, and

better than the immune killers.

--- Kathy <sunbriar@...> wrote:

> Hi, my DR today said to stop taking the methotrexate

> (yeah) but now he wants me to try Humira. Anyone

> have any comments about this med before I go get it?

> He said my bloodwork was showing some kidney issues

> and that I may have had an issue before he even

> started the methotrexate and I should stay away from

> celebrex, ibuprofren and aspririns for ever... I

> felt no better on methotrexate and maybe even worse

> (not sure cause I have other issues to deal with)

> but my hands still hurt and other parts too, only

> the pain pills seems to help. So he says to start

> the humira and see if that helps. he said if it

> doesnt we can just go with the pain pills alone. I

> also see my endo next week, and Ill tell him all

> this too, cause Im not sure how my hormones are

> affecting all this arthritis. kathy

>

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Is anyone else having problems with their digestive

system? Seems the acid reflux is bad and getting

worse, and the antibiotics aggravates it even more.

--- mike rosner <martysfolks2004@...> wrote:

> Hi Kathy, Forget the Humira. Get rid of the toxic

> cocktails! Why aren't you on Minocin or talking

> about Antibiotic Protocol and finding out about the

> Infectious Theory. It's all in the books by Henry

> Scammell and Dr. MacPherson Brown. The

> titles are: " The New Arthritis Breakthrough " , by

> Henry Scammell, " Scleroderma, The Proven Therapy

> That Can Save Your Life. " by Henry Scammell and " The

> Road Back " , co-written by both Scammell and Dr.

> Brown. Those toxic drugs suppress the immune

> system. What you want to do is enhance the immune

> system so that it will start working on it's own

> again. I hate these docs who give you a temporary

> feel good medicine while the meds rob you of life.

> Meth, Prednisone and all the rest are just Dr.

> Feelgood remedies while you die inside. It's like

> putting a bandaid on a cancer. Wake up. and think!

> Get healthy. These illnesses have an Infectious

> origin. Get rid of the infection and boost the

> immune system. You got a lot of research

> work to do. After 18 months of being on

> antibiotics, resting, eating right, thinking

> positively and surrounding myself with a good

> support group at home and on-line, I am in

> remission. I was given up for dead several years

> ago. This year I spent the winter traipsing thru

> the Caribbean and last Saturday night, my husband

> and I danced the night away at my friends birthday

> party and I am going on 71 in August. It can be

> done. Look at Lance Armstrong who was ion his

> deathbed from cancer and got up to win all those

> trophies. Got married, had children, is on T.V all

> the time and became not only a celebrity but a

> millionaire. Good luck kid, ~~~~Dolores

>

> Kathy <sunbriar@...> wrote: Hi, my DR

> today said to stop taking the methotrexate (yeah)

> but now he wants me to try Humira. Anyone have any

> comments about this med before I go get it? He said

> my bloodwork was showing some kidney issues and that

> I may have had an issue before he even started the

> methotrexate and I should stay away from celebrex,

> ibuprofren and aspririns for ever... I felt no

> better on methotrexate and maybe even worse (not

> sure cause I have other issues to deal with) but my

> hands still hurt and other parts too, only the pain

> pills seems to help. So he says to start the humira

> and see if that helps. he said if it doesnt we can

> just go with the pain pills alone. I also see my

> endo next week, and Ill tell him all this too, cause

> Im not sure how my hormones are affecting all this

> arthritis. kathy

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

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Yes, It is a part of the disease which causes slow motility. This means the

food doesn't go down like it should and lays around rotting long after it is

supposed to be digested. Yes, Antibiotics kills all the bacteria in your

stomach even the good bacteria necessary for digestion. So, you go to the drug

store and buy a probiotic that replaces the good bacteria. It goes by the name

of acidophillus or lactobacillus. It's the same bacteria that is in yogurt. If

you can tolerate dairy, you can also eat a yogurt before meals and then eat.

The bacteria will speed up digestion. You can also buy these in grocery stores

or health food stores. I takee one or two prior to meals. Good

luck~~~~~Dolores

Carolyn Brownlee <carolynbrownlee@...> wrote: Is anyone else

having problems with their digestive

system? Seems the acid reflux is bad and getting

worse, and the antibiotics aggravates it even more.

--- mike rosner <martysfolks2004@...> wrote:

> Hi Kathy, Forget the Humira. Get rid of the toxic

> cocktails! Why aren't you on Minocin or talking

> about Antibiotic Protocol and finding out about the

> Infectious Theory. It's all in the books by Henry

> Scammell and Dr. MacPherson Brown. The

> titles are: " The New Arthritis Breakthrough " , by

> Henry Scammell, " Scleroderma, The Proven Therapy

> That Can Save Your Life. " by Henry Scammell and " The

> Road Back " , co-written by both Scammell and Dr.

> Brown. Those toxic drugs suppress the immune

> system. What you want to do is enhance the immune

> system so that it will start working on it's own

> again. I hate these docs who give you a temporary

> feel good medicine while the meds rob you of life.

> Meth, Prednisone and all the rest are just Dr.

> Feelgood remedies while you die inside. It's like

> putting a bandaid on a cancer. Wake up. and think!

> Get healthy. These illnesses have an Infectious

> origin. Get rid of the infection and boost the

> immune system. You got a lot of research

> work to do. After 18 months of being on

> antibiotics, resting, eating right, thinking

> positively and surrounding myself with a good

> support group at home and on-line, I am in

> remission. I was given up for dead several years

> ago. This year I spent the winter traipsing thru

> the Caribbean and last Saturday night, my husband

> and I danced the night away at my friends birthday

> party and I am going on 71 in August. It can be

> done. Look at Lance Armstrong who was ion his

> deathbed from cancer and got up to win all those

> trophies. Got married, had children, is on T.V all

> the time and became not only a celebrity but a

> millionaire. Good luck kid, ~~~~Dolores

>

> Kathy <sunbriar@...> wrote: Hi, my DR

> today said to stop taking the methotrexate (yeah)

> but now he wants me to try Humira. Anyone have any

> comments about this med before I go get it? He said

> my bloodwork was showing some kidney issues and that

> I may have had an issue before he even started the

> methotrexate and I should stay away from celebrex,

> ibuprofren and aspririns for ever... I felt no

> better on methotrexate and maybe even worse (not

> sure cause I have other issues to deal with) but my

> hands still hurt and other parts too, only the pain

> pills seems to help. So he says to start the humira

> and see if that helps. he said if it doesnt we can

> just go with the pain pills alone. I also see my

> endo next week, and Ill tell him all this too, cause

> Im not sure how my hormones are affecting all this

> arthritis. kathy

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

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>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

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>

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..Because they make more money on you by keeping you sickand dependent on their

meds which they receive fom Phamaceutical companies. That's where they get all

those free samples they get you hooked on. Think about it. If we all got

well, they would be out of buisness. Very simple~~~~~Economics~~~~Good luck,

Dolores

Carolyn Brownlee <carolynbrownlee@...> wrote: Why do RA doctors

not use A/P? It does work, and

better than the immune killers.

--- Kathy <sunbriar@...> wrote:

> Hi, my DR today said to stop taking the methotrexate

> (yeah) but now he wants me to try Humira. Anyone

> have any comments about this med before I go get it?

> He said my bloodwork was showing some kidney issues

> and that I may have had an issue before he even

> started the methotrexate and I should stay away from

> celebrex, ibuprofren and aspririns for ever... I

> felt no better on methotrexate and maybe even worse

> (not sure cause I have other issues to deal with)

> but my hands still hurt and other parts too, only

> the pain pills seems to help. So he says to start

> the humira and see if that helps. he said if it

> doesnt we can just go with the pain pills alone. I

> also see my endo next week, and Ill tell him all

> this too, cause Im not sure how my hormones are

> affecting all this arthritis. kathy

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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One more thought.Just about everyone over 40 has much less HCL in the

stomack so get some digestive enzymes to go with the pre and pro

biotics.Yes they are different and both are needed. Lynne

mike rosner wrote:

> Yes, It is a part of the disease which causes slow motility. This

> means the food doesn't go down like it should and lays around rotting

> long after it is supposed to be digested. Yes, Antibiotics kills all

> the bacteria in your stomach even the good bacteria necessary for

> digestion. So, you go to the drug store and buy a probiotic that

> replaces the good bacteria. It goes by the name of acidophillus or

> lactobacillus. It's the same bacteria that is in yogurt. If you can

> tolerate dairy, you can also eat a yogurt before meals and then eat.

> The bacteria will speed up digestion. You can also buy these in

> grocery stores or health food stores. I takee one or two prior to

> meals. Good luck~~~~~Dolores

>

> Carolyn Brownlee <carolynbrownlee@...

> <mailto:carolynbrownlee%40>> wrote: Is anyone else having

> problems with their digestive

> system? Seems the acid reflux is bad and getting

> worse, and the antibiotics aggravates it even more.

> --- mike rosner <martysfolks2004@...

> <mailto:martysfolks2004%40>> wrote:

>

> > Hi Kathy, Forget the Humira. Get rid of the toxic

> > cocktails! Why aren't you on Minocin or talking

> > about Antibiotic Protocol and finding out about the

> > Infectious Theory. It's all in the books by Henry

> > Scammell and Dr. MacPherson Brown. The

> > titles are: " The New Arthritis Breakthrough " , by

> > Henry Scammell, " Scleroderma, The Proven Therapy

> > That Can Save Your Life. " by Henry Scammell and " The

> > Road Back " , co-written by both Scammell and Dr.

> > Brown. Those toxic drugs suppress the immune

> > system. What you want to do is enhance the immune

> > system so that it will start working on it's own

> > again. I hate these docs who give you a temporary

> > feel good medicine while the meds rob you of life.

> > Meth, Prednisone and all the rest are just Dr.

> > Feelgood remedies while you die inside. It's like

> > putting a bandaid on a cancer. Wake up. and think!

> > Get healthy. These illnesses have an Infectious

> > origin. Get rid of the infection and boost the

> > immune system. You got a lot of research

> > work to do. After 18 months of being on

> > antibiotics, resting, eating right, thinking

> > positively and surrounding myself with a good

> > support group at home and on-line, I am in

> > remission. I was given up for dead several years

> > ago. This year I spent the winter traipsing thru

> > the Caribbean and last Saturday night, my husband

> > and I danced the night away at my friends birthday

> > party and I am going on 71 in August. It can be

> > done. Look at Lance Armstrong who was ion his

> > deathbed from cancer and got up to win all those

> > trophies. Got married, had children, is on T.V all

> > the time and became not only a celebrity but a

> > millionaire. Good luck kid, ~~~~Dolores

> >

> > Kathy <sunbriar@... <mailto:sunbriar%40wv.net>> wrote: Hi, my DR

> > today said to stop taking the methotrexate (yeah)

> > but now he wants me to try Humira. Anyone have any

> > comments about this med before I go get it? He said

> > my bloodwork was showing some kidney issues and that

> > I may have had an issue before he even started the

> > methotrexate and I should stay away from celebrex,

> > ibuprofren and aspririns for ever... I felt no

> > better on methotrexate and maybe even worse (not

> > sure cause I have other issues to deal with) but my

> > hands still hurt and other parts too, only the pain

> > pills seems to help. So he says to start the humira

> > and see if that helps. he said if it doesnt we can

> > just go with the pain pills alone. I also see my

> > endo next week, and Ill tell him all this too, cause

> > Im not sure how my hormones are affecting all this

> > arthritis. kathy

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> >

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Just one more note on Gerd. HCL is hydrochloric acid, a very essential

digestive acid and what Lynne says is true. She has a scientific background and

I am a nurse. You also have digestive enzymes coming in from your pancreas

called Amylase and Lypase The mere smell of food triggers these enzymes to start

flowing. Digestion also starts in the mouth from the salivary glands, so chew

your food well We both take the probiotics and it helps most of the time if we

stick to our diets and take fluids which helps get the food down there and keeps

us from getting constipated or dehydrated. It also lubricates the joints by

making synovial fluid and flushes out the toxins. Also, do not lay down on a

full stomach or after medications. The contents of your stomach and esophagus

will back up and cause that burning sensation. I'm fine as long as I don't see

any tamales, HeHe! Good luck!~~~~~Dolores R.

lynneandsantos <lynneandsantos@...> wrote: One more

thought.Just about everyone over 40 has much less HCL in the

stomack so get some digestive enzymes to go with the pre and pro

biotics.Yes they are different and both are needed. Lynne

mike rosner wrote:

> Yes, It is a part of the disease which causes slow motility. This

> means the food doesn't go down like it should and lays around rotting

> long after it is supposed to be digested. Yes, Antibiotics kills all

> the bacteria in your stomach even the good bacteria necessary for

> digestion. So, you go to the drug store and buy a probiotic that

> replaces the good bacteria. It goes by the name of acidophillus or

> lactobacillus. It's the same bacteria that is in yogurt. If you can

> tolerate dairy, you can also eat a yogurt before meals and then eat.

> The bacteria will speed up digestion. You can also buy these in

> grocery stores or health food stores. I takee one or two prior to

> meals. Good luck~~~~~Dolores

>

> Carolyn Brownlee <carolynbrownlee@...

> <mailto:carolynbrownlee%40>> wrote: Is anyone else having

> problems with their digestive

> system? Seems the acid reflux is bad and getting

> worse, and the antibiotics aggravates it even more.

> --- mike rosner <martysfolks2004@...

> <mailto:martysfolks2004%40>> wrote:

>

> > Hi Kathy, Forget the Humira. Get rid of the toxic

> > cocktails! Why aren't you on Minocin or talking

> > about Antibiotic Protocol and finding out about the

> > Infectious Theory. It's all in the books by Henry

> > Scammell and Dr. MacPherson Brown. The

> > titles are: " The New Arthritis Breakthrough " , by

> > Henry Scammell, " Scleroderma, The Proven Therapy

> > That Can Save Your Life. " by Henry Scammell and " The

> > Road Back " , co-written by both Scammell and Dr.

> > Brown. Those toxic drugs suppress the immune

> > system. What you want to do is enhance the immune

> > system so that it will start working on it's own

> > again. I hate these docs who give you a temporary

> > feel good medicine while the meds rob you of life.

> > Meth, Prednisone and all the rest are just Dr.

> > Feelgood remedies while you die inside. It's like

> > putting a bandaid on a cancer. Wake up. and think!

> > Get healthy. These illnesses have an Infectious

> > origin. Get rid of the infection and boost the

> > immune system. You got a lot of research

> > work to do. After 18 months of being on

> > antibiotics, resting, eating right, thinking

> > positively and surrounding myself with a good

> > support group at home and on-line, I am in

> > remission. I was given up for dead several years

> > ago. This year I spent the winter traipsing thru

> > the Caribbean and last Saturday night, my husband

> > and I danced the night away at my friends birthday

> > party and I am going on 71 in August. It can be

> > done. Look at Lance Armstrong who was ion his

> > deathbed from cancer and got up to win all those

> > trophies. Got married, had children, is on T.V all

> > the time and became not only a celebrity but a

> > millionaire. Good luck kid, ~~~~Dolores

> >

> > Kathy <sunbriar@... <mailto:sunbriar%40wv.net>> wrote: Hi, my DR

> > today said to stop taking the methotrexate (yeah)

> > but now he wants me to try Humira. Anyone have any

> > comments about this med before I go get it? He said

> > my bloodwork was showing some kidney issues and that

> > I may have had an issue before he even started the

> > methotrexate and I should stay away from celebrex,

> > ibuprofren and aspririns for ever... I felt no

> > better on methotrexate and maybe even worse (not

> > sure cause I have other issues to deal with) but my

> > hands still hurt and other parts too, only the pain

> > pills seems to help. So he says to start the humira

> > and see if that helps. he said if it doesnt we can

> > just go with the pain pills alone. I also see my

> > endo next week, and Ill tell him all this too, cause

> > Im not sure how my hormones are affecting all this

> > arthritis. kathy

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> >

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Hi all. I thought id mention I started on my biotidentical hormones and armour

thyroid this week (tuesday to be exact) they said i wouldnt see any difference

for weeks, but I usually do alot quicker on meds than most (more sensitve)

anyway. I will say that by weds...I didnt need a nap!!! Ive gone3 days with no

lunch-time nap!!!!! not only that, I shut off the TV and went outside and worked

in the garden during my lunch break! so maybe thats a coincidence, but I dont

think so. But i actually sit around thinking " what can i go do next " which i

havent done in 15 years... so Im hoping this is true and the meds are helping me

out and I can get my life better now!!!! Kathy

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Where do you go to get bioidentical hormones? Do you have to have a

prescription, and do you need a script for Armour thyroid? If so, what kind of

doctor dispenses them?

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You need a script for bioidenticals and for armour thyroid. Most docs do not

even know or care about bio idents. Alopathic docs will never order armour

thyroid. Homeopath docs dispense both. Ask the druggist in your area who

they recommend or look in the phone book for a compounding pharmacy and ask

there. I found my doc because he was giving a talk on female problems.

If you let me know where you are from I may be able to get my compound

pharmacist to see if there is a doc in your area.

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Where do you go to get bioidentical hormones? Do you have to have a

prescription, and do you need a script for Armour thyroid? If so, what kind

of

doctor dispenses them?

I'm really anxious to hear.

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I used Bellview Pharmacy, they did a questionaire and then a phone consult and

they wrote up a prescription and info sheet type thing, they emailed that to

me and i took it with me to my Drs. and no my regualr Drs would NOt sign it,

but thru asking around I found an open minded Dr who DID sign it and then I

faxed it back to bellview (compounding pharmacy) and they filled the

prescription and mailed it to me. I am now switiching most of my records to the

new DR and she also said she was more than willing to sign for the minocycline

also...yeah! Kathy

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