Re: Flawed Studies--hydrogenated saturated fat

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>In NT, Sally talks about past studies on saturated fats that were

>flawed because the studies were actually done on hydrogenated fats.

>Can someone give me an example of a hydrogenated saturated fat?

AFAIK they didn't hydrogenate a saturated fat and then study it (I don't

see how you could hydrogenate a saturated fatty acid anyway) but rather

they lumped naturally saturated fats together with hydrogenated fats,

assuming that it didn't matter how the saturation came about.

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[Guest guest]

> In NT, Sally talks about past studies on saturated fats that were

> flawed because the studies were actually done on hydrogenated fats.

> Can someone give me an example of a hydrogenated saturated fat?

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This are actually two differant things going on. The first is that in

the early days of the research heavily processed liquid foods were

used in studies. For example, rabbits were fed diets of hydrogenated

coconut oil. This made their only source of fat 100% saturated and

the rabbits were EFA deficient. Enig discusses this in

Mann's 'Coronary Heart Disease: the dietary sense and nonsense' if

you're interested.

Another issue is that food composition databases lumped hydrogenated

oils in with animal fats. So researchers would lump ask questions

like: " How much butter, lard, margarine and shortening do you use per

day? " Then they would add up the total and find a link between

saturated fat and say, cancer. In one of the articles on the main

Weston Price page they talk about Enig sending Walter Willet

(Mr. Politically Correct Nutrition) her data on the actual trans-fat

content of differant foods. When he redid the calculations, no

correlation was found between saturated fat and cancer, but a

correlation was found between trans-fats and cancer.

This was probably the start of Willet becoming anti-trans fat, and

ironically, being so politically correct, he's been a much more

effective opponent of trans than the original researchers like

Enig who put their grant money on the line to study them.

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>>In NT, Sally talks about past studies on saturated fats that were

>>flawed because the studies were actually done on hydrogenated fats.

>>Can someone give me an example of a hydrogenated saturated fat?

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>AFAIK they didn't hydrogenate a saturated fat and then study it (I don't

>see how you could hydrogenate a saturated fatty acid anyway) but rather

>they lumped naturally saturated fats together with hydrogenated fats,

>assuming that it didn't matter how the saturation came about.

Most likely. But to answer the question, how about hydrogenated lard?

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This exists? (totally bewildered)

>Most likely. But to answer the question, how about hydrogenated lard?

Quick schrieb:

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> >>In NT, Sally talks about past studies on saturated fats that were

> >>flawed because the studies were actually done on hydrogenated fats.

> >>Can someone give me an example of a hydrogenated saturated fat?

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> >AFAIK they didn't hydrogenate a saturated fat and then study it (I don't

> >see how you could hydrogenate a saturated fatty acid anyway) but rather

> >they lumped naturally saturated fats together with hydrogenated fats,

> >assuming that it didn't matter how the saturation came about.

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> Most likely. But to answer the question, how about hydrogenated lard?

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>But to answer the question, how about hydrogenated lard?

They can and do hydrogenate lard, but the composition of lard (unlike, say,

coconut oil, or suet) is highly variable. Ruminants pretty reliably turn

what they eat into saturated and some monounsaturated fat, so they only

thing that varies dramatically with their diet is their small

polyunsaturated content. Pigs, however, store fat that's highly dependent

on the food they eat, and I think it's more unsaturated than cow fat no

matter what.

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>This exists? (totally bewildered)

Not only does it exist, but if you can even find lard in a store, I can

almost guarantee you that it's been partially hydrogenated.

You'd think people would catch on in this day and age, but no...

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