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[Guest guest]

The fish oil (ProEFA is what most of us use) works fast (almost always within a

few weeks, or

even less) but there is regression if you take him off of it. It's an essential

fatty acid.

Peace,

Kathy E.

>

> MY 2 1/2 YEAR OLD SON JUST GOT DIAGNOSED WITH SPEECH APRAXIA,I'M JUST

> LOOKING FOR ANY ADVICE OUT THERE. HE HAS BEEN GOING TO A SPECIAL

> SCHOOL SINCE MARCH,AT FIRST THEY SAID HE HAD MILD RECEPTIVE AND SEVERE

> EXPRESSIVE LANGUAGE DISORDER,NOW THEY ARE SAYING IT'S APRAXIA.HE ONLY

> SAYS A HADFULL OF RECOGNIZABLE WORDS.DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW LONG THE

> FISH OIL USUALLY TAKES,OR IS THIS SOMETHING HE'LL BE ON FOR AWIHL?HIS

> NAME IS IAN AND HE HAS A WEBISTE HERE AT

> http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/i/iantoddhuebner/ .

>

[Guest guest]

Kris,

You're on the right track. Go to www.copingandprevailing.com If you cannot afford to pay for the book send me your mailing address and I will send it to you.

Regards,

Tom

[low dose naltrexone] New to this Group

Hello everyone,I've been lurking for a couple weeks and have found all of the information flying around the group very helpful and interesting. At any rate, I decided that I want to tell my story.I was diagnosed with MS in December 05 after about a month of numbness and tingling in my left arm and upper chest. I had an MRI (showing multiple active lesions in the brain and spinal cord). I also had weakness in my left leg that initially I though could be explained by a bulging L4-5 disk that I've had for quite a few years but it turns out that it was an MS lesion. I started Avonex in early January and have taken it faithfully, never missing a week since then. However, I've had a plethora of other symptoms since then that wax and wane (facial & scalp itching, numbness in both forearms and hands and L'Hemitte's of vary degrees from day to day. But, the most disturbing to me is bilaterally leg weakness and fatigue. I used to be a very active person (basketball, golf, backpacking and more) but now it's hard for me to walk more than 1/2 a mile or so without completely pooping out and dragging my legs. I get terrible muscle fatigue going up and down stairs and by the end of the day my energy is sapped. I am definitely mourning the loss of my strength and stamina.Then about a month or so ago, my Mom told me about LDN. She knew someone from her church who had a friend with MS who was on it with excellent results. Then my Mom's friend Peg (also a new LDN group member) started taking it in June and is very happy with the outcome. So, to make long story a bit shorter, I did my own research and am very anxious to give LDN a try. The Avonex stinks and wipes me out for days afterwards. I initially had a horrible reaction to it with 103 fever, shaking chills so violent that they really hurt, not to mention just feeling horrible with muscle aches and headaches. Since then I've had varying degress of reactions to it depending on the week. Recently I've started have fevers of 101 and chills again about 6 hrs after my injection. Quite honestly, I'm tired of it and am so happy to find out about an alternative. I called my neurologist's office and tried to get in to see him but he is booked until NOVEMBER so I wrote a letter, included a bunch of info that I printed off the internet and dropped it off at his office last wednesday. I have a call into him today to see what he says (keeping my fingers crossed). I like him and hope that he will agree to prescribe LDN for me but who knowsÑI'm prepared for a NO but would be thrilled if he said Yes. I do have some ammunition in the process because I found a nearby pharmacy (I'm in Madison, WI) that does compound LDN and the very helpful pharmacist that I talked to there said that a neuro at the University of Wisconsin Hospital prescribes it for some of his patients and they have had excellent results. Good news!One way or another, I'm going to get this medication!!!!kris

[Guest guest]

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> I've been lurking for a couple weeks and have found all of the information

flying around

> the group very helpful and interesting. At any rate, I decided that I want to

tell my story.

>

> I was diagnosed with MS in December 05

>

> I started Avonex in early January and have taken it faithfully, never missing

a week since

> then. However, I've had a plethora of other symptoms since then that wax and

wane (facial

> & scalp itching, numbness in both forearms and hands and L'Hemitte's of vary

degrees

> from day to day. But, the most disturbing to me is bilaterally leg weakness

and fatigue.

>

> I called my neurologist's office and tried to get in to see him but he is

booked until

> NOVEMBER so I wrote a letter, included a bunch of info that I printed off the

internet and

> dropped it off at his office last wednesday. I have a call into him today to

see what he says

> (keeping my fingers crossed). I like him and hope that he will agree to

prescribe LDN for

> me but who knowsÑI'm prepared for a NO but would be thrilled if he said Yes.

>

> I do have some ammunition in the process because I found a nearby pharmacy

(I'm in

> Madison, WI) that does compound LDN and the very helpful pharmacist that I

talked to

> there said that a neuro at the University of Wisconsin Hospital prescribes it

for some of his

> patients and they have had excellent results. Good news!

>

> One way or another, I'm going to get this medication!!!!

>

> kris

>

========

You might want to visit my LDN site to get some helpful information. Ignore the

google ads at the top though. Read all the posts that have a red sticky tack in

them as they are important.

Low Dose Naltrexone Forum - Home

http://ldn.proboards3.com/index.cgi?

[Guest guest]

-kris,

It sounds like you are doing exactly what I am doing...gathering

information and getting ready to start on LDN. I decided last week

that I wanted to try it and I got the Rx from my neurologist. I have

never wanted to try any of the other drugs because they sound

horrible ....you just reinforced that! And that is not taking into

account the long term effects.

I called this morning, out of curiosity, to see if my prescription

plan would cover it...they said they would. I was surprised.... They

said it is totally covered because it is generic.

It would be interesting if we started on it at the same time...to

compare reactions and improvements etc. Fatigue is a major problem

for me ......it goes from very bad to worse to unbelievable. If all

the LDN did was improve my stamina, it would be worth taking it!

nancy

-- In low dose naltrexone , " kricket " <kris@...> wrote:

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> I've been lurking for a couple weeks and have found all of the

information flying around

> the group very helpful and interesting. At any rate, I decided

that I want to tell my story.

>

> I was diagnosed with MS in December 05 after about a month of

numbness and tingling in

> my left arm and upper chest. I had an MRI (showing multiple active

lesions in the brain and

> spinal cord). I also had weakness in my left leg that initially I

though could be explained by

> a bulging L4-5 disk that I've had for quite a few years but it

turns out that it was an MS

> lesion.

>

> I started Avonex in early January and have taken it faithfully,

never missing a week since

> then. However, I've had a plethora of other symptoms since then

that wax and wane (facial

> & scalp itching, numbness in both forearms and hands and

L'Hemitte's of vary degrees

> from day to day. But, the most disturbing to me is bilaterally leg

weakness and fatigue. I

> used to be a very active person (basketball, golf, backpacking and

more) but now it's hard

> for me to walk more than 1/2 a mile or so without completely

pooping out and dragging

> my legs. I get terrible muscle fatigue going up and down stairs

and by the end of the day

> my energy is sapped. I am definitely mourning the loss of my

strength and stamina.

>

> Then about a month or so ago, my Mom told me about LDN. She knew

someone from her

> church who had a friend with MS who was on it with excellent

results. Then my Mom's

> friend Peg (also a new LDN group member) started taking it

in June and is very

> happy with the outcome.

>

> So, to make long story a bit shorter, I did my own research and am

very anxious to give

> LDN a try. The Avonex stinks and wipes me out for days afterwards.

I initially had a

> horrible reaction to it with 103 fever, shaking chills so violent

that they really hurt, not to

> mention just feeling horrible with muscle aches and headaches.

Since then I've had varying

> degress of reactions to it depending on the week. Recently I've

started have fevers of 101

> and chills again about 6 hrs after my injection. Quite honestly,

I'm tired of it and am so

> happy to find out about an alternative.

>

> I called my neurologist's office and tried to get in to see him

but he is booked until

> NOVEMBER so I wrote a letter, included a bunch of info that I

printed off the internet and

> dropped it off at his office last wednesday. I have a call into

him today to see what he says

> (keeping my fingers crossed). I like him and hope that he will

agree to prescribe LDN for

> me but who knowsÑI'm prepared for a NO but would be thrilled if he

said Yes.

>

> I do have some ammunition in the process because I found a nearby

pharmacy (I'm in

> Madison, WI) that does compound LDN and the very helpful

pharmacist that I talked to

> there said that a neuro at the University of Wisconsin Hospital

prescribes it for some of his

> patients and they have had excellent results. Good news!

>

> One way or another, I'm going to get this medication!!!!

>

> kris

>

[Guest guest]

, I'm so happy to hear from you and I'll definitely let you know how things

go for me.

I AM going to get on this medication one way or another!! The Avonex was

dragging me

down, that's for sure. I want to do the right thing for me and for now, that is

giving LDN a

go...I stopped taking the Avonex 2 weeks ago and feel better from an

energy/overall

standpoint than when I was taking it but the last couple of days I've had some

torso

numbness that I haven't had in awhile so then the doubting about my decision to

stop the

Avonex creeps in. However, that numbness could have occured while on the Avonex

as

well so I've got a plan and am sticking to it. I will be very interested to hear

how you do

once you start the LDN. We'll compare notes...

> >

> > Hello everyone,

> >

> > I've been lurking for a couple weeks and have found all of the

> information flying around

> > the group very helpful and interesting. At any rate, I decided

> that I want to tell my story.

> >

> > I was diagnosed with MS in December 05 after about a month of

> numbness and tingling in

> > my left arm and upper chest. I had an MRI (showing multiple active

> lesions in the brain and

> > spinal cord). I also had weakness in my left leg that initially I

> though could be explained by

> > a bulging L4-5 disk that I've had for quite a few years but it

> turns out that it was an MS

> > lesion.

> >

> > I started Avonex in early January and have taken it faithfully,

> never missing a week since

> > then. However, I've had a plethora of other symptoms since then

> that wax and wane (facial

> > & scalp itching, numbness in both forearms and hands and

> L'Hemitte's of vary degrees

> > from day to day. But, the most disturbing to me is bilaterally leg

> weakness and fatigue. I

> > used to be a very active person (basketball, golf, backpacking and

> more) but now it's hard

> > for me to walk more than 1/2 a mile or so without completely

> pooping out and dragging

> > my legs. I get terrible muscle fatigue going up and down stairs

> and by the end of the day

> > my energy is sapped. I am definitely mourning the loss of my

> strength and stamina.

> >

> > Then about a month or so ago, my Mom told me about LDN. She knew

> someone from her

> > church who had a friend with MS who was on it with excellent

> results. Then my Mom's

> > friend Peg (also a new LDN group member) started taking it

> in June and is very

> > happy with the outcome.

> >

> > So, to make long story a bit shorter, I did my own research and am

> very anxious to give

> > LDN a try. The Avonex stinks and wipes me out for days afterwards.

> I initially had a

> > horrible reaction to it with 103 fever, shaking chills so violent

> that they really hurt, not to

> > mention just feeling horrible with muscle aches and headaches.

> Since then I've had varying

> > degress of reactions to it depending on the week. Recently I've

> started have fevers of 101

> > and chills again about 6 hrs after my injection. Quite honestly,

> I'm tired of it and am so

> > happy to find out about an alternative.

> >

> > I called my neurologist's office and tried to get in to see him

> but he is booked until

> > NOVEMBER so I wrote a letter, included a bunch of info that I

> printed off the internet and

> > dropped it off at his office last wednesday. I have a call into

> him today to see what he says

> > (keeping my fingers crossed). I like him and hope that he will

> agree to prescribe LDN for

> > me but who knowsÑI'm prepared for a NO but would be thrilled if he

> said Yes.

> >

> > I do have some ammunition in the process because I found a nearby

> pharmacy (I'm in

> > Madison, WI) that does compound LDN and the very helpful

> pharmacist that I talked to

> > there said that a neuro at the University of Wisconsin Hospital

> prescribes it for some of his

> > patients and they have had excellent results. Good news!

> >

> > One way or another, I'm going to get this medication!!!!

> >

> > kris

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the encouragement Michele, I'll let everyone know how things go for

me in my

determined quest to find a prescription!

[Guest guest]

,

I visited your site and thank you for the information. I've got it bookmarked

now and am so

happy for all the help and information. You all are wonderful.

kris

>

> You might want to visit my LDN site to get some helpful information. Ignore

the google

ads at the top though. Read all the posts that have a red sticky tack in them

as they are

important.

>

> Low Dose Naltrexone Forum - Home

> http://ldn.proboards3.com/index.cgi?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Kris are you still using Avonex? I dont believe LDN

can be taken when your using Avonex. I believe the

only CRAB drug LDN can be used with is Copaxone.

Maureen

--- kricket <kris@...> wrote:

> Hello everyone,

>

> I've been lurking for a couple weeks and have found

> all of the information flying around

> the group very helpful and interesting. At any rate,

> I decided that I want to tell my story.

>

> I was diagnosed with MS in December 05 after about a

> month of numbness and tingling in

> my left arm and upper chest. I had an MRI (showing

> multiple active lesions in the brain and

> spinal cord). I also had weakness in my left leg

> that initially I though could be explained by

> a bulging L4-5 disk that I've had for quite a few

> years but it turns out that it was an MS

> lesion.

>

> I started Avonex in early January and have taken it

> faithfully, never missing a week since

> then. However, I've had a plethora of other symptoms

> since then that wax and wane (facial

> & scalp itching, numbness in both forearms and hands

> and L'Hemitte's of vary degrees

> from day to day. But, the most disturbing to me is

> bilaterally leg weakness and fatigue. I

> used to be a very active person (basketball, golf,

> backpacking and more) but now it's hard

> for me to walk more than 1/2 a mile or so without

> completely pooping out and dragging

> my legs. I get terrible muscle fatigue going up and

> down stairs and by the end of the day

> my energy is sapped. I am definitely mourning the

> loss of my strength and stamina.

>

> Then about a month or so ago, my Mom told me about

> LDN. She knew someone from her

> church who had a friend with MS who was on it with

> excellent results. Then my Mom's

> friend Peg (also a new LDN group member)

> started taking it in June and is very

> happy with the outcome.

>

> So, to make long story a bit shorter, I did my own

> research and am very anxious to give

> LDN a try. The Avonex stinks and wipes me out for

> days afterwards. I initially had a

> horrible reaction to it with 103 fever, shaking

> chills so violent that they really hurt, not to

> mention just feeling horrible with muscle aches and

> headaches. Since then I've had varying

> degress of reactions to it depending on the week.

> Recently I've started have fevers of 101

> and chills again about 6 hrs after my injection.

> Quite honestly, I'm tired of it and am so

> happy to find out about an alternative.

>

> I called my neurologist's office and tried to get in

> to see him but he is booked until

> NOVEMBER so I wrote a letter, included a bunch of

> info that I printed off the internet and

> dropped it off at his office last wednesday. I have

> a call into him today to see what he says

> (keeping my fingers crossed). I like him and hope

> that he will agree to prescribe LDN for

> me but who knowsÑI'm prepared for a NO but would be

> thrilled if he said Yes.

>

> I do have some ammunition in the process because I

> found a nearby pharmacy (I'm in

> Madison, WI) that does compound LDN and the very

> helpful pharmacist that I talked to

> there said that a neuro at the University of

> Wisconsin Hospital prescribes it for some of his

> patients and they have had excellent results. Good

> news!

>

> One way or another, I'm going to get this

> medication!!!!

>

> kris

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi Maureen,

no, i'm off the Avonex. I stopped taking it 2 weeks ago in preparation for

starting LDN. I read

that I can't use them at the same time and that's OK with me since I hate the

Avonex anyway.

> Kris are you still using Avonex? I dont believe LDN

> can be taken when your using Avonex. I believe the

> only CRAB drug LDN can be used with is Copaxone.

> Maureen

[Guest guest]

,

I have a feeling that you will notice an improvement in stamina. That was the first thing I noticed. That and energy, all in the first or second week. I will be waiting to see how you do.

Peg

[Guest guest]

hi ashley.. i'm betsy and i barely got diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis and

i'm 19.. how are u feeling today

ash_cat_girl <ash_cat_girl@...> wrote: hi im new to this group

but not new to arthritis i was DX at age 3 and

im 12 now

ashley

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

Betsy,

i have been flareing alot and it is kind of hard to deal with this

when im so young.and my dr she is not a good rummtolges she is the

onley one around are area thou it alread takes us 3 hours to get ther

so i cant change rummtolges

ashley

hi im new to this

group but not new to arthritis i was DX at age 3 and

> im 12 now

> ashley

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> TV dinner still cooling?

> Check out " Tonight's Picks " on TV.

>

>

[Guest guest]

hi girl,

i got a bright idea. i wrote monique if she would be

interested in starting a support group for the kids.

and also putting together information that the kids

could use to alleviate smptoms and find out what works

for rhuematoid diseases. please tell me what you think

and what you need.

and did you find my song. i wrote it for you. think

that everyting will be o.k. and like dorothy in the

wizard it will out turn out well.

glad you are connecting to the group.

sharon

--- ash_cat_girl <ash_cat_girl@...> wrote:

> Betsy,

> i have been flareing alot and it is kind of hard to

> deal with this

> when im so young.and my dr she is not a good

> rummtolges she is the

> onley one around are area thou it alread takes us 3

> hours to get ther

> so i cant change rummtolges

> ashley

>

>

> hi

> im new to this

> group but not new to arthritis i was DX at age 3 and

>

> > im 12 now

> > ashley

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > TV dinner still cooling?

> > Check out " Tonight's Picks " on TV.

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> >

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

you can disagree with the IEP team and request mediation. Pam :)See what's free at AOL.com.

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-- ( ) New to this group

I'm so glad I found you.I've been in dire need of some kind of support ever since my daughter's diagnosis. For years, I've been telling people something was wrong, starting from her infancy - and was blown off repeatedly, because other than her odd quirks, she seems "normal."I've been struggling with her school for almost her entire fourth grade year to get her IEP done. (I requested the evaluation at the beginning of the school year after a neurologist told me he suspected ASD, and finally had an IEP meeting on May 25th.) They're not being very helpful, in my opinion, but I agreed to what services they did offer her.My question is this - there is an elementary school close to me that offers an inclusion program. Hers does not. They have offered pragmatic speech, life skills, OT, and some academic considerations, but they refused to move her to the school with autism inclusion, saying they felt the disruption would upset her, especially since it would only be for one year. (After fifth grade, she moves on to middle school)I feel like getting a diagnosis at age ten, we've already lost a lot of valuable time, and I would like her to get the most intensive assistance possible at this time. Am I wrong that the inclusion program would provide those services better for her? What have your experiences been with this? The school she's in now has been her school since first grade, but she's pretty much a thorn in their side, keeps getting into trouble, gets picked on by other kids, and has even been suspended twice this year for retaliating against kids who were teasing her. Because they screwed around all year with her evaluation, even with me calling constantly with concerns about a sudden decline in academics (She was always an A-B student til this year - and now she's failed fourth grade math and has to go to summer school) I feel as if they are not doing all they can for her. I tried to get them to move her to a different class, becuase they put her in the classroom with a first year teacher who was no more than twenty five years old and had NO idea how to handle a child like her. They wouldn't move her.What, if any, action should I take? Any help is appreciated. I'm still so new at the whole IEP thing.Thank you

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

My DS is also 10 and was just diagnosed about 6 months ago. I know

the feeling of wanting to catch up for all the missed time!!

You might want to read some IEP websites to get familiar with the

rules. I know it's too late for this now, but the school has to

respond within 60 days to an IEP request. They can't take 9 months!!

(At least in Illinos). Make sure you put everything in writing.

I would look at the kids in the inclusion program first and see if

this environment seems appropriate for DD. I would also consider how

well she adjusts to change. My DS would loose it if we moved him

from his school. It would not be worth the change to him. I'm not

saying don't do it, just a couple of things to consider before

pushing it. If you do decide to push, get someone to go with. I

brought our Psycholgist who Dx'd DS to first 2 IEP meetings and she

was a big help.

Sandy

>

> I'm so glad I found you.

>

> I've been in dire need of some kind of support ever since my

> daughter's diagnosis. For years, I've been telling people something

> was wrong, starting from her infancy - and was blown off

repeatedly,

> because other than her odd quirks, she seems " normal. "

>

> I've been struggling with her school for almost her entire fourth

> grade year to get her IEP done. (I requested the evaluation at the

> beginning of the school year after a neurologist told me he

suspected

> ASD, and finally had an IEP meeting on May 25th.) They're not being

> very helpful, in my opinion, but I agreed to what services they did

> offer her.

>

> My question is this - there is an elementary school close to me

that

> offers an inclusion program. Hers does not. They have offered

> pragmatic speech, life skills, OT, and some academic

considerations,

> but they refused to move her to the school with autism inclusion,

> saying they felt the disruption would upset her, especially since

it

> would only be for one year. (After fifth grade, she moves on to

> middle school)

>

> I feel like getting a diagnosis at age ten, we've already lost a

lot

> of valuable time, and I would like her to get the most intensive

> assistance possible at this time. Am I wrong that the inclusion

> program would provide those services better for her? What have your

> experiences been with this?

>

> The school she's in now has been her school since first grade, but

> she's pretty much a thorn in their side, keeps getting into

trouble,

> gets picked on by other kids, and has even been suspended twice

this

> year for retaliating against kids who were teasing her. Because

they

> screwed around all year with her evaluation, even with me calling

> constantly with concerns about a sudden decline in academics (She

was

> always an A-B student til this year - and now she's failed fourth

> grade math and has to go to summer school) I feel as if they are

not

> doing all they can for her. I tried to get them to move her to a

> different class, becuase they put her in the classroom with a first

> year teacher who was no more than twenty five years old and had NO

> idea how to handle a child like her. They wouldn't move her.

>

> What, if any, action should I take?

>

> Any help is appreciated. I'm still so new at the whole IEP thing.

>

> Thank you

>

>

[Guest guest]

Adrenal cortex by Nutricology. I have just introed this and I am

getting a much calmer child. There is more here who know more about

than me ...maybe they will chime in.

Aileen

>

> Was searching some of the posts-relating to severe salt cravings. I

saw

> a reply that noted this could be adrenal problems, as well as:

> If I'm right this suggests moderate to severe adrenal problems.

> > He displays the symptoms Andy descibes (thin,highly strung,excitable

> > but stress intolerant)He also gets quite anxious.

> My son is high strung, extremely excited, anxious-etc.. Always

craving

> salt.

> Have done so many labs-what would be a sign of an adrenal problem,

and

> what are the supps that support the adrenals ?

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Was searching some of the posts-relating to severe salt cravings. I saw

> a reply that noted this could be adrenal problems, as well as:

> If I'm right this suggests moderate to severe adrenal problems.

> > He displays the symptoms Andy descibes (thin,highly strung,excitable

> > but stress intolerant)He also gets quite anxious.

> My son is high strung, extremely excited, anxious-etc.. Always craving

> salt.

This site is good

http://www.drrind.com/scorecardmatrix.asp

http://www.drrind.com/adrensupport.asp

Dana

[Guest guest]

In reference to the Adrenal cortex by Nutricology. :Thanks...do you think this

product is similar to the Ora-Adren-80 from holisticheal.(Yasko)

that one is raw adrenal concentrate (of bovine source 80 mg)

I actually have a bottle of that I never used

[Guest guest]

Actually it's not the same. This product is the whole adrenal gland.

What is recommended is the adrenal cortex of the gland, which is

labeled as adrenal cortex. The reason they do no recommend whole

adrenal is due to the other things that can be in it, like adrenaline.

I have used both whole adrenal and adrenal cortex. whole adrenal was a

disaster for me. It made me racey, hyper, nervous and with

palpatations. It did the same to my friend who gave it to me, because

she could not use it. These are signs of not enough cortisol. So it

did not help my cortisol levels any. The adrenal cortex did not do

that. I am still on it. Have been for 2 years...same with the kids.

There are some people who report that they can use whole adrenal and

are fine with it. But many cannot. Andy recommends the adrenal cortex

only. Also Nutricology is organic. Holistic Heal does not say it is.

So personally, I can't recommend you use this.

I know it's hard because you have it already. I have a cupboard where

I keep the supplements we can't use...I have some whole adrenal in

there, some liquid kelp...probably some other stuff too....

>

> In reference to the Adrenal cortex by Nutricology. :Thanks...do you

think this product is similar to the Ora-Adren-80 from

holisticheal.(Yasko)

> that one is raw adrenal concentrate (of bovine source 80 mg)

> I actually have a bottle of that I never used

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You can help your adrenals to function better by giving them Vitamin C

throughout the day.

Here is a link to a Pubmed article to explain why.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15666839?ordinalpos=1 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEn\

trez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

I have heard reports of Ester calcium ascorbate causing problems but NOT

other mineral ascorbates mixes where the ascorbate is attached to zinc,

magnesium etc

You can get them at:

www.adrenalfatigue.org or www.metabolics.com

Jada schrieb:

>

> Actually it's not the same. This product is the whole adrenal gland.

> What is recommended is the adrenal cortex of the gland, which is

> labeled as adrenal cortex. The reason they do no recommend whole

> adrenal is due to the other things that can be in it, like adrenaline.

>

> I have used both whole adrenal and adrenal cortex. whole adrenal was a

> disaster for me. It made me racey, hyper, nervous and with

> palpatations. It did the same to my friend who gave it to me, because

> she could not use it. These are signs of not enough cortisol. So it

> did not help my cortisol levels any. The adrenal cortex did not do

> that. I am still on it. Have been for 2 years...same with the kids.

> There are some people who report that they can use whole adrenal and

> are fine with it. But many cannot. Andy recommends the adrenal cortex

> only. Also Nutricology is organic. Holistic Heal does not say it is.

>

> So personally, I can't recommend you use this.

>

> I know it's hard because you have it already. I have a cupboard where

> I keep the supplements we can't use...I have some whole adrenal in

> there, some liquid kelp...probably some other stuff too....

>

>

> >

> > In reference to the Adrenal cortex by Nutricology. :Thanks...do you

> think this product is similar to the Ora-Adren-80 from

> holisticheal.(Yasko)

> > that one is raw adrenal concentrate (of bovine source 80 mg)

> > I actually have a bottle of that I never used

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Yes, c is helpful as are b complex a few times a day, so will giving

sea salt in water and on food.

This will help but if the level of fatigue is beyond a certain extent,

more than vitamins will be needed.

As in the case or my children. We still use the vitamins and sea salt

in addition to the cortex.

> > >

> > > In reference to the Adrenal cortex by Nutricology. :Thanks...do you

> > think this product is similar to the Ora-Adren-80 from

> > holisticheal.(Yasko)

> > > that one is raw adrenal concentrate (of bovine source 80 mg)

> > > I actually have a bottle of that I never used

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Good to have feedback...It's the adrenals which respond to stress

(oxidative or psychological/environmental) and so anything which can

prop up these very active organs can only help.I think this is what

Boyd Haley's new idea is trying to accomplish.

Jada schrieb:

>

> Yes, c is helpful as are b complex a few times a day, so will giving

> sea salt in water and on food.

>

> This will help but if the level of fatigue is beyond a certain extent,

> more than vitamins will be needed.

> As in the case or my children. We still use the vitamins and sea salt

> in addition to the cortex.

>

>

> > > >

> > > > In reference to the Adrenal cortex by Nutricology. :Thanks...do you

> > > think this product is similar to the Ora-Adren-80 from

> > > holisticheal.(Yasko)

> > > > that one is raw adrenal concentrate (of bovine source 80 mg)

> > > > I actually have a bottle of that I never used

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Adrenal Cortex Nutricology –check out www.adrenalfatigue.org is

stocked at Mandimart.

1 cap - 250mg.

Ingred. Adrenal Cortex tissue (Bovine) Hydroxypropyl methylcellose.

cellulose, L-leucine

....I think it is similiar

Hope this helps

>

> In reference to the Adrenal cortex by Nutricology. :Thanks...do you

think this product is similar to the Ora-Adren-80 from holisticheal.

(Yasko)

> that one is raw adrenal concentrate (of bovine source 80 mg)

> I actually have a bottle of that I never used

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

....Obviously its not..sorry

> >

> > In reference to the Adrenal cortex by Nutricology. :Thanks...do

you

> think this product is similar to the Ora-Adren-80 from holisticheal.

> (Yasko)

> > that one is raw adrenal concentrate (of bovine source 80 mg)

> > I actually have a bottle of that I never used

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >