Guest guest Posted March 18, 2002 Report Share Posted March 18, 2002 > I had my thyroid tested a few weeks ago, and while we > were at it the doctor suggested doing a cholesterol > test. Both of my parents have heart disease, so she > thought I should be monitoring my cholesterol. Okay. > Fine. The test results came back. This is what they > said. > Cholesterol 311 HI > Triglycerides 45 > HDL 78 HI > LDL 224 HI > Cholesterol/HDL Risk Factor 3.99 > Relative Risk .8 times average > Doctors never agree on these ratios. But this is what I have read in the past comple of months: The most popular ratio used by doctors Total / HDL = 3.99 is low risk. But a new ratio shows to be more accurate in several studies: Triglycerides /HDL should be below 2.0. Yours is 0.57. You will probably live to be 90. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2002 Report Share Posted March 18, 2002 > I had my thyroid tested a few weeks ago, and while we > were at it the doctor suggested doing a cholesterol > test. Both of my parents have heart disease, so she > thought I should be monitoring my cholesterol. Okay. > Fine. The test results came back. This is what they > said. > Cholesterol 311 HI > Triglycerides 45 > HDL 78 HI > LDL 224 HI > Cholesterol/HDL Risk Factor 3.99 > Relative Risk .8 times average What were the results of the thyroid test (TSH)? Low thyroid can allow buildup of cholesterol, since adequate thyroid hormone is necessary to convert cholesterol to hormones such as progesterone, DHEA, etc. Dr. Ray Peat considers high cholesterol virtually diagnostic of low thyroid. Portland, OR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2002 Report Share Posted March 18, 2002 But most doctors don't diagnose it properly: http://www.mercola.com/2000/mar/5/thyroid_update.htm http://www.mercola.com/2000/oct/29/thyroid_tests.htm > > I had my thyroid tested a few weeks ago, and while we > > were at it the doctor suggested doing a cholesterol > > test. Both of my parents have heart disease, so she > > thought I should be monitoring my cholesterol. Okay. > > Fine. The test results came back. This is what they > > said. > > Cholesterol 311 HI > > Triglycerides 45 > > HDL 78 HI > > LDL 224 HI > > Cholesterol/HDL Risk Factor 3.99 > > Relative Risk .8 times average > > What were the results of the thyroid test (TSH)? Low thyroid can > allow buildup of cholesterol, since adequate thyroid hormone is > necessary to convert cholesterol to hormones such as progesterone, > DHEA, etc. Dr. Ray Peat considers high cholesterol virtually > diagnostic of low thyroid. > > > Portland, OR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2002 Report Share Posted March 18, 2002 Alec, I am aware of that; which is why I asked for TSH, so one could apply the more proper diagnostic limit according to Mercola, i.e. TSH > 2 indicates a possible problem. I saw this on the Mercola website, but can't relocate it. A more comprehensive proposal for hypothyroid diagnosis is found at: http://www.mercola.com/article/hypothyroid/diagnosis_comp.htm Portland, OR > > > I had my thyroid tested a few weeks ago, and while we > > > were at it the doctor suggested doing a cholesterol > > > test. Both of my parents have heart disease, so she > > > thought I should be monitoring my cholesterol. Okay. > > > Fine. The test results came back. This is what they > > > said. > > > Cholesterol 311 HI --snip-- > > What were the results of the thyroid test (TSH)? --snip-- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2002 Report Share Posted March 18, 2002 There's a good " Ask the Doctor " article about " high " cholesterol on the WAPF site: http://www.westonaprice.org/askdoctor/ask_cholesterol.html. Jill -----Original Message----- From: L [mailto:lierrekeith@...] Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 9:37 PM Subject: cholesterol scare I had my thyroid tested a few weeks ago, and while we were at it the doctor suggested doing a cholesterol test. Both of my parents have heart disease, so she thought I should be monitoring my cholesterol. Okay. Fine. The test results came back. This is what they said. Cholesterol 311 HI Triglycerides 45 HDL 78 HI LDL 224 HI Cholesterol/HDL Risk Factor 3.99 Relative Risk .8 times average Then the docotr writes this note: Cholesterol is high, may be familial pattern. Ennclosed you will find our hints to lower cholesterol. Let's recheck these tests in three months after you've had a chance to decrease fats in your diest, exercise. If it doesn't improve we may need medicine for you. Of course I freaked for a moment: omigod, the low-fat people are right and I'm going to have to go back to that horrible hypoglycemic carbohydrate diet. I told myself to stay calm and figure out what the numbers meant. But then I remembered that the 2 books I own that might explain what this all meant--I'd lent to someone. So I tried to pull what I knew out of my memory. I really haven't cared that much about cholesterol--I'm only 37, and being a vegan for so long it wasn't on my radar. Ratios, I remembered, were what mattered, but I couldn't remember any actual numbers. But 2 things became very clear. One--I'd rather die young than live to be 99 and feel sick the whole time. Two--no way was I taking those medicines. Luckily, I have friends who are health care professionals, so I got some answers pretty quickly. I may be getting some of this wrong, but my friend said that 1. my triglycerides are great 2. ratio is okay at 2 or 3 to 1, mine is even better at almost 4 to 1 3. Relative risk of CHD is 1, mine is .8, which means LESS than average 4. and this doctor wants me to take medicine? I only went to this doctor to request the thyroid test, I had no interest in her advice, but wow, it threw me for a moment. If you were someone who just did what doctors told you, you'd be swallowing some pretty evil drugs for no good reason. Lierre __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2002 Report Share Posted March 19, 2002 > > What were the results of the thyroid test (TSH)? Low thyroid can > allow buildup of cholesterol, since adequate thyroid hormone is > necessary to convert cholesterol to hormones such as progesterone, > DHEA, etc. Dr. Ray Peat considers high cholesterol virtually > diagnostic of low thyroid. > > > Portland, OR The TSH is 1.8. The doctor said that was normal. I'm going to read the stuff on Mercola, because I have no idea at all what it means. Thanks for asking. Everyone on this list is always so kind. Lierre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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