Re: herx or flare

[Guest guest]

I can't wait to see some answers on this myself.

Sue

---- kbf23 <kbf23@...> wrote:

> How do you tell the difference? I've changed up my protocol because I thought

I was noticing a pattern of worsening symptoms whenever I did my week of

Azithromycin. I'm now taking it twice a week, 500mg/tues and friday and I am in

agonizing pain! I'm hoping and praying this is a herx and not a flare or me

getting worse, but I don't know how to tell the difference.

>

[Guest guest]

Differentiating between a Herxheimer, an RA flare and an allergic reaction

to the drug -

Laboratory tests can help differentiate between a worsening of disease (RA

flare), a Herxheimer reaction to microbial toxins, and an allergic reaction

to medication.

1. WBC will elevate in a Herxheimer and lower in a flare.

2. A Herxheimer will also exhibit a coincidental elevation of SED rate,

gamma globulin and total globulin, and a fall in serum albumin and

hematocrit. Patients who exhibit this flare reaction accompanied by anemia,

depression of serum albumin, elevated total globulin and gamma globulin are

probably reflecting a more intense reaction pattern to anti-L substances

than in hematologically mild cases.

3. A marked increase in eosinophils (for instance about 30%) is an

indication of an allergic reaction to the drug.

Subject: rheumatic herx or flare

How do you tell the difference? I've changed up my protocol because I

thought I was noticing a pattern of worsening symptoms whenever I did my

week of Azithromycin. I'm now taking it twice a week, 500mg/tues and friday

and I am in agonizing pain! I'm hoping and praying this is a herx and not a

flare or me getting worse, but I don't know how to tell the difference.

[Guest guest]

When I was on MP I would take my regular dose of Minocin 100mg twice daily or

pulsed , 20 mg three times  daily of Benicar and only took a very small dose

of Azith once every ten days. I would break the zith into 8 peices at first and

take a small piece on the 10th , 20th and 30th of the month I gradually

increase it to 2 pieces every 10th day. That amount of zith twice a week seems

to be a large enough amount to give you a really bad herx.  This is one of

those cases where more is not better.  The antibiotic therapy is  (low dose

antibiotics given over a long period of time and pulsed so that the body can

recuperate between doses.)  Benicar is taken to reduce the herx  according to

Dr. Marshall.  That schedule is what put me into remission without any herxing

or flaring.  Try pulling back on the azithromycin. and pulse the rest to see if

that alleviates the herxing.   Best Dolores 

> How do you tell the difference? I've changed up my protocol because I thought

I was noticing a pattern of worsening symptoms whenever I did my week of

Azithromycin. I'm now taking it twice a week, 500mg/tues and friday and I am in

agonizing pain! I'm hoping and praying this is a herx and not a flare or me

getting worse, but I don't know how to tell the difference.

>

[Guest guest]

I often wonder if I am healing, or going downhill. With all our knowledge,

information, sharing on this site, helping each other, etc

etc..............these diseases are cruel and very tricky.......so FAITH is so

important for me....that I AM on the right path and healing. Sally

Re: rheumatic herx or flare

I can't wait to see some answers on this myself.

Sue

---- kbf23 <kbf23@...> wrote:

> How do you tell the difference? I've changed up my protocol because I thought

I was noticing a pattern of worsening symptoms whenever I did my week of

Azithromycin. I'm now taking it twice a week, 500mg/tues and friday and I am in

agonizing pain! I'm hoping and praying this is a herx and not a flare or me

getting worse, but I don't know how to tell the difference.

>