amy

[Guest guest]

Amy,

I ask you this because we seem to be at about the same stages of AIH and

trtrasplantoworkup I am still working and can't take the LaLactulosend work. My

TX Hepatologist suggested I take ZINC 50mg's twice a day to keep the

amamoniaown. It works in a different way (Not through the bowels to lower

ammonia levels. Have you been told anything about this?). I've been taking it

this week only and don't seem to notice much difference in the confusion, but it

doesn't seem to be too bad this week.

[Guest guest]

> HAPPY BIRTHDAY AMY.

Sorry I missed it, Amy. I've been taking advantage of *finally* having my

car free from an ice bank and catching up on shopping, etc.

> PS ASK SUE FOR THE LINK TO FREE EXERCISE TAPES

Tape, singular. Be sure to make " payment " as money order and the balance

comes to zero

http://thebigmama.com/

Now all you have to do is get a vcr to play it on.

Sue in NJ

[Guest guest]

Initially - for about 10 days - she was up to 375 mg. per day. She is

now taking 250 mg. per day but I skip it if she has loose stools (she

is probably having them for other reasons, notably she's really

increasing her food choices, but then it kind of tips the balance in

the wrong direction.) So 250 mg. about 4-5 days a week.

She insists it helps her sleep better if she takes it in the morning,

so that's when she takes it.

Amy

>

> Thanks Amy,

> How much magnesium did you have to give your daughter to help with

> the constipation?

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Uh oh....tell us more about the tummy tuck. Has it gotten any better? Where are you now as far as pain and recovery? JenniAmy <areynolds3@...> wrote: bending over and carrying was not a problem for me.. just be careful kinda like having a baby you wouldnt come home and go on a cleaning spree.. just baby yourself for about 4-7 days and you will do great.. Now the tummy tuck I just had a DIFFERENT story... Amy in NY Questions stemming from watching Emmi Hi!I watched Emmi last night about the procedure and had some questions I hope you all can clear up.It said I can't bend over then how do I put my shoes on or socks? I also makes me concerned about feeding my cat as well as

her litter box since I live alone no one will be here to help me out.Also it said no heavy carrying. What constitues heavy? A 12lb cat? But seriously, is there guidelines of what you can carry and what you can't. I'm worried I won't be able to carry my laptop back to work when it is time.Did any of you guys have problems bending over or carry things? Or have any tips to work around the carrying and the bending?Thanks!NadineDOB 3/24/07

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[Guest guest]

jenni,

The tummy tuck was really not as bad as I thought . I am 10 days out, Im getting around but wouldnt go back to work yet even if I had a desk job maybe 3 weeks so if you plan on one best take at least 2 weeks off work. My tummy looks great. cant wait for all the swelling to go down.I had a sight unfill while I was there suffering from soft food syndrum for the past 4 months and the dr thought best to take all the fill out.. !.8 so I might return to have Dr. A re-fill me so He can give me a look over as my port was moved down with my skin. But over all I would do it all over again. Just part of the weight loss journey, maintiance on my new car..LOL

Amy in NY

Re: Amy

Uh oh....tell us more about the tummy tuck. Has it gotten any better? Where are you now as far as pain and recovery?

JenniAmy <areynolds3stny (DOT) rr.com> wrote:

bending over and carrying was not a problem for me.. just be careful kinda like having a baby you wouldnt come home and go on a cleaning spree.. just baby yourself for about 4-7 days and you will do great.. Now the tummy tuck I just had a DIFFERENT story...

Amy in NY

----- Original Message -----

From: nr her litter box since I live alone no one will be here to help me out.Also it said no heavy carrying. What constitues heavy? A 12lb cat? But seriously, is there guidelines of what you can carry and what you can't. I'm worried I won't be able to carry my laptop back to work when it is time.Did any of you guys have problems bending over or carry things? Or have any tips to work around the carrying and the bending?Thanks!NadineDOB 3/24/07

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[Guest guest]

Glad to hear it. I'm still chicken, though! I am going to wait at least until early next summer so I will have been at goal for a year and see about it then. I may chicken out then as well. JenniAmy <areynolds3@...> wrote: jenni, The tummy tuck was really not as bad as I thought . I am 10 days out, Im getting around but wouldnt go back to work yet even if I had a desk job maybe 3

weeks so if you plan on one best take at least 2 weeks off work. My tummy looks great. cant wait for all the swelling to go down.I had a sight unfill while I was there suffering from soft food syndrum for the past 4 months and the dr thought best to take all the fill out.. !.8 so I might return to have Dr. A re-fill me so He can give me a look over as my port was moved down with my skin. But over all I would do it all over again. Just part of the weight loss journey, maintiance on my new car..LOL Amy in NY Re: Amy Uh oh....tell us more about the tummy tuck. Has it gotten any better? Where are you now as far as pain and recovery? JenniAmy <areynolds3stny (DOT) rr.com> wrote: bending over and carrying was not a problem for me.. just be careful kinda like having a baby you wouldnt come home and go on a cleaning spree.. just baby yourself for about 4-7 days and you will do great.. Now the tummy tuck I

just had a DIFFERENT story... Amy in NY ----- Original Message ----- From: nr her litter box since I live alone no one will be here to help me out.Also it said no heavy carrying. What constitues heavy? A 12lb cat? But seriously, is there guidelines of what you can carry and what you can't. I'm worried I won't be able to carry my laptop back to work when it is time.Did any of you guys have problems bending over or carry things? Or have any tips to work around the carrying and the bending?Thanks!NadineDOB 3/24/07 We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love(and love to hate): TV's Guilty Pleasures list.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Amy, Once your tummy is healed, will you post pictures of your new tummy? I know that is asking a lot but I'd like to see what it looks like...And a few questions for you...Who did your TT? Did you like the service? Where? And if you don't mind my asking how much? I would love to have one someday and would like to know about how much I should start thinking about saving... Thanks, RenaJ Currie <giftedtch@...> wrote: Glad to hear it.

I'm still chicken, though! I am going to wait at least until early next summer so I will have been at goal for a year and see about it then. I may chicken out then as well. JenniAmy <areynolds3stny (DOT) rr.com> wrote: jenni, The tummy tuck was really not as bad as I thought . I am 10 days out, Im getting around but wouldnt go back to work yet even if I had a desk job maybe 3 weeks so if you plan on one best take at least 2 weeks off work. My tummy looks great. cant wait for all the swelling to go down.I had a sight unfill while I was there suffering from soft food syndrum for the past 4 months and the dr thought best to take all the fill out.. !.8 so I might return to have Dr. A re-fill me so He can

give me a look over as my port was moved down with my skin. But over all I would do it all over again. Just part of the weight loss journey, maintiance on my new car..LOL Amy in NY Re: Amy Uh oh....tell us more about the tummy tuck. Has it gotten any

better? Where are you now as far as pain and recovery? JenniAmy <areynolds3stny (DOT) rr.com> wrote: bending over and carrying was not a problem for me.. just be careful kinda like having a baby you wouldnt come home and go on a cleaning spree.. just baby yourself for about 4-7 days and you will do great.. Now the tummy tuck I just had a DIFFERENT story... Amy in NY ----- Original Message ----- From: nr her litter box since I live alone no one will

be here to help me out.Also it said no heavy carrying. What constitues heavy? A 12lb cat? But seriously, is there guidelines of what you can carry and what you can't. I'm worried I won't be able to carry my laptop back to work when it is time.Did any of you guys have problems bending over or carry things? Or have any tips to work around the carrying and the bending?Thanks!NadineDOB 3/24/07 We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love(and love to hate): TV's Guilty Pleasures list. Be a PS3 game guru.Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Games.

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D25 is made up of D3 and D2. When you get a D25 test nowadays, the lab

gives you a break down of how much of your D25 is in D3 & how much of

your D25 is in D2.

Nobody seems to be clear about what D2 does (if anything). The D3 gets

the most attention as this will convert to the active hormone called

D1,25. D3 might do some other things too, but it gets the most

attention because it has a known link to the active hormone (D1,25 -

also called dihydroxy).

The thing about vitamin D is that it is known for being a catalyst to

hundreds of metabolic activities. It helps to make enzymes that the

body uses for different things. Dolores noted that vitamin D is not

really a vitamin. That is true - it is a pre-hormone which is used to

make other things & activities happen. I'm using the phrase vit D

because that is just the traditional name.

Amy

leonie cent wrote:

>

> sounds good Amy: thanks heaps. by the way, what's D25 ? is that a

> special sort of D ? i've heard of D3 before.

>

> Leonie

>

[Guest guest]

i see.. very interesting !

do you know what it is about D that makes RA worse ?

Leonie

Re: rheumatic Amy

D25 is made up of D3 and D2. When you get a D25 test nowadays, the lab

gives you a break down of how much of your D25 is in D3 & how much of

your D25 is in D2.

Nobody seems to be clear about what D2 does (if anything). The D3 gets

the most attention as this will convert to the active hormone called

D1,25. D3 might do some other things too, but it gets the most

attention because it has a known link to the active hormone (D1,25 -

also called dihydroxy).

The thing about vitamin D is that it is known for being a catalyst to

hundreds of metabolic activities. It helps to make enzymes that the

body uses for different things. Dolores noted that vitamin D is not

really a vitamin. That is true - it is a pre-hormone which is used to

make other things & activities happen. I'm using the phrase vit D

because that is just the traditional name.

Amy

leonie cent wrote:

>

> sounds good Amy: thanks heaps. by the way, what's D25 ? is that a

> special sort of D ? i've heard of D3 before.

>

> Leonie

>

[Guest guest]

Marshall says that vitamin D helps to HIDE the mycoplasma (or L form

bacteria). He says that vitamin D provides a safe haven for this

bacteria, so that the antibiotics can't get to them.

Maybe he's right (?) I don't think I would want to keep vitamin D at a

low level for too too long. The science has all been in agreement that

vitamin D is important to many body functions.

Amy

leonie cent wrote:

>

> i see.. very interesting !

>

> do you know what it is about D that makes RA worse ?

>

> Leonie

>

[Guest guest]

ha! I would willingly give the crown away ... but it is like a pet that

wants to follow me around. Sounds like Lynne is good at getting it

right. Probably Dolores and Mike too. I hope their trip is going well.

Amy

leonie cent wrote:

>

>

> Amy, i thought i wore that crown, but heck... you can have it if you

> want

>

> Leonie

>

> Re: rheumatic Re: Assorted other tests and the protocol

>

> I think I'm the Queen of failing to stick to the 'right' foods. So, I

> understand that.

>

> If you haven't been tested yet for food allergies, and if you will be

> tested, then you might consider waiting until after your test before you

> restrict the typical suspects (e.g. gluten). This is because the test

> is known to show less reaction to allergens if you haven't been eating

> them a while.

>

> We all know that fruits veggies, fish are the healthiest foods for

> this. My only recommendation is if you are eating gluten free

> breads/cereals... is that amazon.com seems to be much less expensive.

>

> Amy

>

> wiccantwinpaths wrote

> >

> >

> >

> > Does anyone have good sources for recipe ideas and such for the diet

> > part of the plan?

> >

> > It will alas be the worst and most severe challege of the entire

> > process.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Amy... it's a pity you can't banish that pesky pet to the backyard. i think

Lynne and others must have a different relationship with food, that's all i can

think of. my relationship with food is that i am in love with it and think

about it day and night, but unfortunately it is unrequited love ...

Leonie

Re: rheumatic Re: Assorted other tests and the protocol

>

> I think I'm the Queen of failing to stick to the 'right' foods. So, I

> understand that.

>

> If you haven't been tested yet for food allergies, and if you will be

> tested, then you might consider waiting until after your test before you

> restrict the typical suspects (e.g. gluten). This is because the test

> is known to show less reaction to allergens if you haven't been eating

> them a while.

>

> We all know that fruits veggies, fish are the healthiest foods for

> this. My only recommendation is if you are eating gluten free

> breads/cereals... is that amazon.com seems to be much less expensive.

>

> Amy

>

> wiccantwinpaths wrote

> >

> >

> >

> > Does anyone have good sources for recipe ideas and such for the diet

> > part of the plan?

> >

> > It will alas be the worst and most severe challege of the entire

> > process.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Leonie and Amy,

you sure have given me a good laugh about the food issue. Since I am on a

gluten-free diet I am more hungry, sometimes I feel like eating a bear. i know

what Amy means about thinking of it all the time. Thank God I am off Prednison,

or I would eat my husband out of house and home. I try to control the urge to

eat so sometimes I just get in my car and drive around or walk through the mall,

but never to the food court where they tempt you with all kind of goodies I

shouldn't eat.

Keep it up, I may be rolling on the floor for all the laughter. I heard that

is good for the health, I mean laughter not rolling on the floor.

Eva

leonie cent <leoniecent@...> wrote:

Amy... it's a pity you can't banish that pesky pet to the backyard. i

think Lynne and others must have a different relationship with food, that's all

i can think of. my relationship with food is that i am in love with it and think

about it day and night, but unfortunately it is unrequited love ...

Leonie

Re: rheumatic Re: Assorted other tests and the protocol

>

> I think I'm the Queen of failing to stick to the 'right' foods. So, I

> understand that.

>

> If you haven't been tested yet for food allergies, and if you will be

> tested, then you might consider waiting until after your test before you

> restrict the typical suspects (e.g. gluten). This is because the test

> is known to show less reaction to allergens if you haven't been eating

> them a while.

>

> We all know that fruits veggies, fish are the healthiest foods for

> this. My only recommendation is if you are eating gluten free

> breads/cereals... is that amazon.com seems to be much less expensive.

>

> Amy

>

> wiccantwinpaths wrote

> >

> >

> >

> > Does anyone have good sources for recipe ideas and such for the diet

> > part of the plan?

> >

> > It will alas be the worst and most severe challege of the entire

> > process.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi kids, Just got back tonight. Been on the road since Monday. I just had to

answer this one. I got a chuckle re: passing the crown around. I sometimes

wish I were triplets so I could eat everything I see. My brain wants me to eat,

but alas, my body starts rejecting when I have overindulged. I can't help it,

but one real meal a day is really way too much for me. For instance, we stopped

at Panera's this morning for breakfast. I drank two cups of coffee. I usually

make a cup of tea and take 6-7 hrs. to drink it. But, since we were on a trip,

I downed the coffee with a peice of french bread. That was at 10 a.m. or so.

When we stopped for gas, I got some ice water with a lemon twist because I was

not feeling so good and at 2p.m. I barfed up the coffee, bread and water.

Haven't eaten for the rest of the day. I am good only with small bites of food

spaced at long intervals. Now Mike, well he can pack it away without any

problems. P.S. I do eat mostly everything,

except milk with " D " as I am on the Marshall Protocol and that is a no-no

because of the " D " . I have been empty all day. Mike just warmed me up a slice

of pizza and, of course, I ate it. It's 2 a.m.and now, I'm suffering again. I

should have just taken a few small bites, but I guess I'm just like everybody

else. Well, it's good to be back. I'm reading some of the 250+ e:mails just

trying to catch up on what's been going on. I'm really enjoying the materials.

I, especially like the info on hormones! Will follow up with the book, " Natural

Hormone Balance for Women " by Dr. Reiss. That's the next thing I have to

straighten out. Well thanks for the info and chuckle. Love you all and see

that there are some new names added. Welcome all. Dolores & Mike

Eva Holloway <holloway-eva@...> wrote: Leonie and Amy,

you sure have given me a good laugh about the food issue. Since I am on a

gluten-free diet I am more hungry, sometimes I feel like eating a bear. i know

what Amy means about thinking of it all the time. Thank God I am off Prednison,

or I would eat my husband out of house and home. I try to control the urge to

eat so sometimes I just get in my car and drive around or walk through the mall,

but never to the food court where they tempt you with all kind of goodies I

shouldn't eat.

Keep it up, I may be rolling on the floor for all the laughter. I heard that is

good for the health, I mean laughter not rolling on the floor.

Eva

leonie cent <leoniecent@...> wrote:

Amy... it's a pity you can't banish that pesky pet to the backyard. i think

Lynne and others must have a different relationship with food, that's all i can

think of. my relationship with food is that i am in love with it and think about

it day and night, but unfortunately it is unrequited love ...

Leonie

Re: rheumatic Re: Assorted other tests and the protocol

>

> I think I'm the Queen of failing to stick to the 'right' foods. So, I

> understand that.

>

> If you haven't been tested yet for food allergies, and if you will be

> tested, then you might consider waiting until after your test before you

> restrict the typical suspects (e.g. gluten). This is because the test

> is known to show less reaction to allergens if you haven't been eating

> them a while.

>

> We all know that fruits veggies, fish are the healthiest foods for

> this. My only recommendation is if you are eating gluten free

> breads/cereals... is that amazon.com seems to be much less expensive.

>

> Amy

>

> wiccantwinpaths wrote

> >

> >

> >

> > Does anyone have good sources for recipe ideas and such for the diet

> > part of the plan?

> >

> > It will alas be the worst and most severe challege of the entire

> > process.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

From my past experiences, sugar feeds fungus.  The higher your glucose level is

the more likely you are to develop a fungal infection.   Itchies, mean it itches

so badly that you drive yourself mad scratching and there is no relief.  It can

make a person crazy or at least extremely grouchy.  An itch is like pain.  When

it doesn't go away, you want to tear your hair out.  Stay away from too much

sugar, starch etc.  Excessive starch turns to glucose.Keep the protein levels

and veggie levels high.  Vegans and vegetarians know the right combos of veggies

that give them the most protein.  Proteins are building blocks and we need them

to repair damages caused by these illnesses.  But by the same token, the

micoplasmas also feed off of our protein.  That is how they make their DNA.  It

is a vicious cycle.  Just don't give up please.When one symptom goes away,

rejoice and then get ready to deal with the next symptom.  That is why they say 

that

dealing with these diseases is like taking a roller coaster ride.  And by the

way, hello ~~~~Dolores

From: Petty <jamespetty@...>

Subject: rheumatic Re: Amy

rheumatic

Date: Sunday, July 27, 2008, 1:51 AM

For those of us new to all this could you please explain? What do

you mean by itchies? Also why are some of you say you are staying

away from sugar etc?

thanks

> >

> > Hopefully someone else will answer too, because I get the itchies

> even

> > without antibiotics. In case it helps, I have been able to fix

my

> > itchies with probiotics.

> > Amy

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Leonie,

Usually, I take different ones by the Jarrow brand. Here are two

different ones I alternate:

1) http://nybcsecure.org/product_info.php?products_id=173

2) http://tinyurl.com/6osmqx

But also, I've taken NOW brand called Gr-8 Dophilus & others in the

'pearl' type capsules

3) http://www.allstarhealth.com/f/now-gr8-dophilus.htm

To be honest, most of them definitely help me - regardless of the

brand. I tend to alternate.

I would expect that you we all need use some kind probiotics, because AP

is known to kill the bacteria we are supposed to have.

My diet alone brings it on, & I am well aware this. But despite my diet

failings, the probiotics /always/ helps me. I do know other things are

known to help - such as olive leaf extract.

Amy

mumpup2000 wrote:

>

> Hi Amy,

>

> I got the itchies before AP also. That's why i worry that the AP will

> make it worse. What brand of probiotics do you use to help with it ?

> I'd like to know, as it can be confusing as to which ones are best for

> candida.

>

> Leonie

>

>

> >

> > Hopefully someone else will answer too, because I get the itchies

> even

> > without antibiotics. In case it helps, I have been able to fix my

> > itchies with probiotics.

> > Amy

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, . I don't know what it's like for guys, but for me, I get

vaginal itching and probiotics takes it away. The probiotics work

within 24 hours. If I don't take anything, the itching gets worse.

Uncomfortable & embarrassing.

Amy

Petty wrote:

>

> For those of us new to all this could you please explain? What do

> you mean by itchies? Also why are some of you say you are staying

> away from sugar etc?

>

> thanks

> -

>

[Guest guest]

I forgot to also add - AP kills bacteria. That is the purpose of

antibiotics - to kill bacteria. However, antibiotics do not only kill

the bad bacteria... they also kills the good bacteria.

It is widely known that everyone needs to have the 'good' bacteria in

our intestinal tracts for good health. When AP kills it, we need to

replace it. This is why we are supposed to take probiotics... it is the

good bacteria.

Amy

Petty wrote:

>

> For those of us new to all this could you please explain? What do

> you mean by itchies? Also why are some of you say you are staying

> away from sugar etc?

>

> thanks

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Amy,

First of all injections hurt and they break down your tissues over along

period of time. I did 11 years of oral .can you imagine 11 years of

injections???

Injections are also VERY hard to get a doc to prescribe. It's hard enough to

get a doctor to give pills. And there is the problem of giving them. No

insurance company would pay for someone to give you daily injections.

I did Clindamycin IV and did the IV's myself. My doc trusted me to do it

because I am a nurse. I did them weekly and my hand veins are totally

destroyed.

Not everyone has stomach problems with AP.

Cooky

Subject: rheumatic Re: Amy

On this note something I have been wanting to ask everyone is....

Since the AP jacks with our stomachs so much shouldn't we all be

trying to get the anitbiotics injected into us?

Why does everyone use the pills? Is it because it's so hard to find

a doctor willing to do the injections?

[Guest guest]

wrote:

> On this note something I have been wanting to ask everyone is....

>

> Since the AP jacks with our stomachs so much shouldn't we all be

> trying to get the anitbiotics injected into us?

>

> Why does everyone use the pills? Is it because it's so hard to find

> a doctor willing to do the injections?

The very low cost of pills, and convenience, I'd think. My MD was willing to

hand over a rx

for Doxy, but getting him to consider IV or IM would be a whole 'nother thing.

And no way

could I afford it, even if he was willing.

[Guest guest]

ok thanks Amy. all drugs are crap, and i hate giving in to take any of

them just because you literally don't have a choice anymore... the

choice between pain or no pain, i.e. a life or no life. i don't like

being backed into a corner. it's ironic that you have to damage

yourself to get a life. while the pharma companies rule, there's

little chance of a cure for anything.

best,

Leonie

[Guest guest]

Exactly. We have to pick the lesser of evils. Our choices are damn

limited :-(

Amy

mumpup2000 wrote:

>

> ok thanks Amy. all drugs are crap, and i hate giving in to take any of

> them just because you literally don't have a choice anymore... the

> choice between pain or no pain, i.e. a life or no life. i don't like

> being backed into a corner. it's ironic that you have to damage

> yourself to get a life. while the pharma companies rule, there's

> little chance of a cure for anything.

>

> best,

> Leonie

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yeah i've heard of HP therapy. I take MMS an hour or so after meals,

sometimes sooner. It's the kind of therapy you have to do very

slowly and steadily to get results... a bit like AP. it's small

increments of improvement every day. and you have to slowly increase

the drops, waiting to see what you can tolerate and always

adjusting. they can hit you big time if you overdose!

L

> >

> > Hi Betsy,

> >

> > Here's the website.

> >

> > http://miraclemineral.org/ <http://miraclemineral.org/>

> >

> > Leonie

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

.... And speaking of vaccinations folks, this is supposed to be a forum about

vaccinations,

most of it is advice on what somebody should take when their kid is sick. A good

book

down at the Health food store will answer most of those questions. I remember a

time

when many of you were telling us what you were doing to educate others and

confronting

the pro-vaxers with a little of our  own medicine-the truth.

> I would like to see that again.

>

> JimO'

Dear Jim: I am so grateful you take your valuable time to tell your truth. I get

to the end of

your wonderful post today and you belittle mothers just starting to walk the

path of health.

Not cool Jim. It's a cheap shot at women in need of immediate help to do the

right thing

for their families. Once parents get a whiff of vaccine issues and step outside

the realms

of allopathic medicine, they fight the system and oftentimes their spouses and

own

mothers and need emotional support and instant knowledge from the collective of

parents

who have already travelled this path they are attempting to walk. They are

afraid to take

their kids to the doctor b/c he'll start pressuring them to vaccinate. Their kid

gets an

earache and a flu or whatever and they have now nowhere to turn for help in the

here and

NOW. Without emotional support from others, they end up back at the allopath

(which of

course sometimes they need to go). Patience, is all I'm saying here. It sounds

like you need

some good wars to wage and that's good too. But, not at the expense of making a

new

mom feel badly that she reached out to the only place she felt comfortable

asking for

more information. I see it as a matter of Big Picture vs. Little Picture. Both

aspects are

important. In Peace, Arlynn

[Guest guest]

Hi Arlynn,

I can also say that I am sure that Jim means no disrespect. When I was a new

mother 23 years ago and had few resources to learn alternative ways to treat

myself and my baby when we were sick, I had to learn on my own. Back then,

there was no internet so I didn't even have the convenience of web searches

and groups such as this for support. What I did do though, was read " How to

Raise a Healthy Kid in Spite of Your Doctor " by Dr. Mendehlson and Mothering

Magazines mostly. I also was fortunate to take an Introduction to Homeopathy

Class at the local health food store and from there I bought myself a general

book on prescribing homeopathic medicines for acute illnesses and a kit with

about 30 remedies in it. It did empower me to feel that I could do

something and I studied it and used it on all 5 of my kids over the years.

Now, as

far as support goes, there was little. My family basically thought that I was

wacko though they came around after many years of my kids being pretty

darned healthy. I remember my mom having a fit when I didn't give my oldest

Tylenol when she was running a fever due to teething. She really believed that

I

was wrong to let her run the fever. I believed otherwise from what I learned

in my Homeopathy studies and stood my ground. You are more fortunate than

you know to have the resources available to you. I strongly recommend that

you consider buying yourself an Acute Homeopathic Kit and a good book and

empower yourself to feel confident in your choices. And of course, establish

relationships with alternative health practitioners if you can afford it. I

rarely could so I learned to make due and weaned myself from the allopathic

system that wants us all to be reliant on them for our health and Lord knows

that

is just wrong!

You can do it! Learn all you can, it will be an investment that will pay

off for many years!

Mavis

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they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as the souls who

live under tyranny. "

- Jefferson

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In a message dated 11/29/2008 1:06:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

abfab@... writes:

Dear Jim: I am so grateful you take your valuable time to tell your truth. I

get to the end of

your wonderful post today and you belittle mothers just starting to walk the

path of health.

Not cool Jim. It's a cheap shot at women in need of immediate help to do the

right thing

for their families. Once parents get a whiff of vaccine issues and step

outside the realms

of allopathic medicine, they fight the system and oftentimes their spouses

and own

mothers and need emotional support and instant knowledge from the collective

of parents

who have already travelled this path they are attempting to walk. They are

afraid to take

their kids to the doctor b/c he'll start pressuring them to vaccinate. Their

kid gets an

earache and a flu or whatever and they have now nowhere to turn for help in

the here and

NOW. Without emotional support from others, they end up back at the allopath

(which of

course sometimes they need to go). Patience, is all I'm saying here. It

sounds like you need

some good wars to wage and that's good too. But, not at the expense of

making a new

mom feel badly that she reached out to the only place she felt comfortable

asking for

more information. I see it as a matter of Big Picture vs. Little Picture.

Both aspects are

important. In Peace, Arlynn

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