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Hi Bob and Carol,

Is it possible to get Dr Sentef's email address or phone number to contact him?

Does he do telephone consultation?

From: Bob & Carol Zarn <bczarn@...>

Subject: rheumatic Re: flare

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Date: Saturday, June 12, 2010, 6:59 AM

 

Hi,

According to many others I know who have aunto-immune conditions, you are in

very good hands with Dr. Sentef. After all he cured himself of RA using

antibiotic therapy.

He also, from time to time, does live chats with www.rhematicsupport.net

God Bless,

Carol_DM

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Hi Debbie, I thought it was you who sent me the book way back when I was in my

mental fog days.  Now that things are clearing up for me, I was hoping you

would read that post and let me know.  I thank you so much for so much

information. The book is a treasure I am definitely going to impart everything

I read.  I had read it once, but my brain just wasn't ready at the time to

absorb so much information.  Yes, I am doing superfine.  God, nobody would

ever know that I once was dying from Scleroderma. I look and feel and function

like a different person.  I still have some residual damages that are in the

healing process and once in a while, I eat what I shouldn't and it makes me feel

kinda' bogged down, but for the most part, I am really super. I have some

friends I used to work for at their hostel in Ft. Lauderdale.  They are a

Christian couple who are into funding causes.  They have a girl's school in

Guatemala and one in South Africa. They

also own a Christian book store in Lauderdale. It was at her place where I

spent the first few months in bed when first diagnosed.  We were supposed to

work that winter at their hostel and I ended up in a Florida hospital and then

to their place.  Poor Mike got stuck with all the work that year.  That was

Jan. 05.  I was in bed for a whole year after that.  Yikes!  Thank God

for Lynne G, The RoadBack, Dr. Brown, you guys, the whole thing.  They were

getting ready to measure me for my coffin.  I was really right there at the

edge of oblivion.  Well, I called my friend last night and she and hubby are

coming down.  You know I want to start a retreat of some sort for people

recovering like I was.  I could sure have used a to place like a retreat to

rest and learn more about what was ailing me then.  We will start looking for

property and hopefully by this  time next year, have a place up an running. 

That is my next goal for Puerto

Rico.  Take care all of you.  Thanks for all your help.  Dolores &

Mike    

From: Bob & Carol Zarn <bczarn@...>

Subject: rheumatic Re: flare

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Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010, 9:35 AM

Dolores,

Every time I read a post from you I am so thrilled that you have got your life

back.

I use the term auto-immune disease for lack of another term as I am not sure

what to call these conditions,. I, like you, do not believe that the body

attacks itself but do not know what else to refer to these diseases.

the term " auto-immune " is understood by most as to what is being referenced.

hope that helps,

carol_DM

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It's actually http://www.rheumaticsupport.net/. I believe you had a typo there.

From: Bob & Carol Zarn <bczarn@...>

Subject: rheumatic Re: flare

rheumatic

Date: Saturday, June 12, 2010, 6:59 AM

 

Hi,

According to many others I know who have aunto-immune conditions, you are in

very good hands with Dr. Sentef. After all he cured himself of RA using

antibiotic therapy.

He also, from time to time, does live chats with www.rhematicsupport.net

God Bless,

Carol_DM

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you can google him to find his office no. i traveled there from canada

to see him and he said i could e-mail and phone after but he never would

respond. many ppl have had this same problem.

monique

Hi Bob and Carol,

Is it possible to get Dr Sentef's email address or phone number to

contact him? Does he do telephone consultation?

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Well, if you ever decide to do one of those famous " Round the World Trips " that

Australians take, make one of your stops P.R.and spend some time with us.  Most

Aussies, do not bother stopping on a small Island when they have the entire

world to see.  I once met a girl in Mexico from Australia who was one one of

those round the world tours in a year trip.  Several months later, she visited

me in NYC,  Last I heard, she described floating in the Dead Sea as  quite

an experience and I never heard from her again. Well, take care, Best to you

and yours.  Dolores   

From: Maz <mazm_mm@...>

Subject: rheumatic Re: flare

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Date: Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 11:04 PM

 

Interesting .. I too don't believe that our body actually starts attacking good

cells. When someone asks me I choose to say I have a comprimised immune system;

but even more interesting is that back in the beginning of my journey 2 of the

rheumies I saw said my immune system was actually depleted which is why this

bacteria had a chance to take hold!

Maz

>

> Dolores,

>

> Every time I read a post from you I am so thrilled that you have got your life

back.

>

> I use the term auto-immune disease for lack of another term as I am not sure

what to call these conditions,. I, like you, do not believe that the body

attacks itself but do not know what else to refer to these diseases.

>

> the term " auto-immune " is understood by most as to what is being referenced.

>

> hope that helps,

>

> carol_DM

>

>

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Dolores you do make me smile ...

Of course we do the whole long trip thing ... it's a long way from here to there

!!  no point in going for a few weeks.  Unfortunately I don't anticipate going

over there again any time soon - I did all my serious travelling in my 20's &

30's & am looking to just relax in the sun now, Bali & Thailand is about as far

as I get to lately.  But thanks for the invite though,

If you guys ever get over here, give me a hoy though you are most welcome.

Maz

ps do hope she kept floating...lol 

________________________________

From: mike rosner <martysfolks2004@...>

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Sent: Fri, 18 June, 2010 12:43:10 PM

Subject: Re: rheumatic Re: flare

 

Well, if you ever decide to do one of those famous " Round the World Trips " that

Australians take, make one of your stops P.R.and spend some time with us.  Most

Aussies, do not bother stopping on a small Island when they have the entire

world to see.  I once met a girl in Mexico from Australia who was one one of

those round the world tours in a year trip.  Several months later, she visited

me in NYC,  Last I heard, she described floating in the Dead Sea as  quite

an experience and I never heard from her again. Well, take care, Best to you

and yours.  Dolores   

From: Maz <mazm_mm@...>

Subject: rheumatic Re: flare

rheumatic

Date: Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 11:04 PM

 

Interesting .. I too don't believe that our body actually starts attacking good

cells. When someone asks me I choose to say I have a comprimised immune system;

but even more interesting is that back in the beginning of my journey 2 of the

rheumies I saw said my immune system was actually depleted which is why this

bacteria had a chance to take hold!

Maz

>

> Dolores,

>

> Every time I read a post from you I am so thrilled that you have got your life

back.

>

> I use the term auto-immune disease for lack of another term as I am not sure

what to call these conditions,. I, like you, do not believe that the body

attacks itself but do not know what else to refer to these diseases.

>

> the term " auto-immune " is understood by most as to what is being referenced.

>

> hope that helps,

>

> carol_DM

>

>

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Maz, Dolores,

I enjoy reading your posts and Dolores you should write this book you have been

collecting all those infos about. You have so much info and I bet it would help

tons of people. Remeber Dolly? Hope you enjoy the nice weather, it is hot and

humid here in Houston, Maz you are in your winter time just now, hope you don't

have too much rain. Talk to you all later, I am of to California in the morning.

Best wishes,

Eva

From: Maz <mazm_mm@...>

Subject: rheumatic Re: flare

rheumatic

Date: Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 11:04 PM

 

Interesting .. I too don't believe that our body actually starts attacking good

cells. When someone asks me I choose to say I have a comprimised immune system;

but even more interesting is that back in the beginning of my journey 2 of the

rheumies I saw said my immune system was actually depleted which is why this

bacteria had a chance to take hold!

Maz

>

> Dolores,

>

> Every time I read a post from you I am so thrilled that you have got your life

back.

>

> I use the term auto-immune disease for lack of another term as I am not sure

what to call these conditions,. I, like you, do not believe that the body

attacks itself but do not know what else to refer to these diseases.

>

> the term " auto-immune " is understood by most as to what is being referenced.

>

> hope that helps,

>

> carol_DM

>

>

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Wow!  Bali & Thailand sounds so romantic to me.  I think of the old movies and

plays like South Pacific and Mutiny on the Bounty and want to go to all those

places including Tahiti..  But am getting old and taking care of Mom prohibits

much more travel.  I told Mike, the next trip may be just a short Carribean

cruise to Aruba, northern Venezuela, maybe parts of Central  America, Belize,

Jamaica, maybe the Cayman's, etc and then back to Puerto Rico.  I skipped

Mexico, because when I lived in California, we toured most of Mexio by land many

times.  I fell in love with the Yucatan Peninsula especially, the Carribean

side.  Ah! my wanderlust is back.  Just wanting to wander is my personal sign

that I have reached full remission. Now if only I can turn back the clock! 

Best to all, Dolores

 

Hi Eva, Have a great trip out west.  Visiting your son again!  That is

wonderful!  Say hello to hubby for us and don't forget to put us on your agenda

when you decide to come South.  We have the RV set us as guest quarters. 

Sleeps 2 very comfortably.  And I found a health store nearby that sells all

types of healthy things including a large assortment of Gluten free foods.  I

never saw so many supplements. I was there yesterday and thought a lot about you

and Lynne.  I know all this chit chat is off topic  But, I believe, that

getting back to normal life again after remission is not talked about often

enough.  We are humans, and not just walking diseases.  The entire being must

be nourished and dreams and goals are important. When I reached remission, I

said to myself, now what!  The what, is that we start living again.  Maybe, we

can even appreciate more the small things we ignored in our youth.  Have a

wonderful day everybody. 

Dolores & Mike

From: Maz <mazm_mm@...>

Subject: rheumatic Re: flare

rheumatic

Date: Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 11:04 PM

 

Interesting .. I too don't believe that our body actually starts attacking good

cells. When someone asks me I choose to say I have a comprimised immune system;

but even more interesting is that back in the beginning of my journey 2 of the

rheumies I saw said my immune system was actually depleted which is why this

bacteria had a chance to take hold!

Maz

>

> Dolores,

>

> Every time I read a post from you I am so thrilled that you have got your life

back.

>

> I use the term auto-immune disease for lack of another term as I am not sure

what to call these conditions,. I, like you, do not believe that the body

attacks itself but do not know what else to refer to these diseases.

>

> the term " auto-immune " is understood by most as to what is being referenced.

>

> hope that helps,

>

> carol_DM

>

>

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Certainly are -- yesterday was our shortest day. As for the rain, hate to tell

you but we have just come out of 25 yrs of severe drought so any rain is a good

thing, you should Google up Lake Ayre & see that it's alive with bird life etc,

& more coming down from up north so maybe now we can get some relief from the

water restrictions down here.

You have a fun time in California, talk when you get back,

Maz

> >

> > Dolores,

> >

> > Every time I read a post from you I am so thrilled that you have got your

life back.

> >

> > I use the term auto-immune disease for lack of another term as I am not sure

what to call these conditions,. I, like you, do not believe that the body

attacks itself but do not know what else to refer to these diseases.

> >

> > the term " auto-immune " is understood by most as to what is being referenced.

> >

> > hope that helps,

> >

> > carol_DM

> >

> >

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You see Dolores, I think you can visit such romantic countries yourself...  too

far for us to come, Bali is 6 hrs by air from where I live & you can rely on it

being lovely a hot !! 

Your paragraph about us getting back to 'normal life' is so true which is why I

have copied & pasted it so everyone could read it again, you said:

" I know all this chit chat is off topic  But, I believe, that getting back to

normal life again after remission is not talked about often enough.  We are

humans, and not just walking diseases.  The entire being must be nourished and

dreams and goals are important. When I reached remission, I said to myself, now

what!  The what, is that we start living again.  Maybe, we can even appreciate

more the small things we ignored in our youth. "

Well said Dolores,

 

________________________________

From: mike rosner <martysfolks2004@...>

rheumatic

Sent: Sat, 19 June, 2010 12:48:02 AM

Subject: Re: rheumatic Re: flare

 

Wow!  Bali & Thailand sounds so romantic to me.  I think of the old movies and

plays like South Pacific and Mutiny on the Bounty and want to go to all those

places including Tahiti..  But am getting old and taking care of Mom prohibits

much more travel.  I told Mike, the next trip may be just a short Carribean

cruise to Aruba, northern Venezuela, maybe parts of Central  America, Belize,

Jamaica, maybe the Cayman's, etc and then back to Puerto Rico.  I skipped

Mexico, because when I lived in California, we toured most of Mexio by land many

times.  I fell in love with the Yucatan Peninsula especially, the Carribean

side.  Ah! my wanderlust is back.  Just wanting to wander is my personal sign

that I have reached full remission. Now if only I can turn back the clock! 

Best to all, Dolores

 

Hi Eva, Have a great trip out west.  Visiting your son again!  That is

wonderful!  Say hello to hubby for us and don't forget to put us on your agenda

when you decide to come South.  We have the RV set us as guest quarters. 

Sleeps 2 very comfortably.  And I found a health store nearby that sells all

types of healthy things including a large assortment of Gluten free foods.  I

never saw so many supplements. I was there yesterday and thought a lot about you

and Lynne.    Have a wonderful day everybody. 

Dolores & Mike

From: Maz <mazm_mm@...>

Subject: rheumatic Re: flare

rheumatic

Date: Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 11:04 PM

 

Interesting .. I too don't believe that our body actually starts attacking good

cells. When someone asks me I choose to say I have a comprimised immune system;

but even more interesting is that back in the beginning of my journey 2 of the

rheumies I saw said my immune system was actually depleted which is why this

bacteria had a chance to take hold!

Maz

>

> Dolores,

>

> Every time I read a post from you I am so thrilled that you have got your life

back.

>

> I use the term auto-immune disease for lack of another term as I am not sure

what to call these conditions,. I, like you, do not believe that the body

attacks itself but do not know what else to refer to these diseases.

>

> the term " auto-immune " is understood by most as to what is being referenced.

>

> hope that helps,

>

> carol_DM

>

>

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Okay, guys, what EXACTLY is remission?....#'s are normal for a year?

Feeling like you used to?

thanks,

Judy

In a message dated 6/21/2010 7:14:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

mazm_mm@... writes:

You see Dolores, I think you can visit such romantic countries yourself...

too far for us to come, Bali is 6 hrs by air from where I live & you can

rely on it being lovely a hot !!

Your paragraph about us getting back to 'normal life' is so true which is

why I have copied & pasted it so everyone could read it again, you said:

" I know all this chit chat is off topic But, I believe, that getting back

to normal life again after remission is not talked about often enough. We

are humans, and not just walking diseases. The entire being must be

nourished and dreams and goals are important. When I reached remission, I said

to myself, now what! The what, is that we start living again. Maybe, we

can even appreciate more the small things we ignored in our youth. "

Well said Dolores,

________________________________

From: mike rosner <_martysfolks2004@..._

(mailto:martysfolks2004@...) >

_rheumatic _ (mailto:rheumatic )

Sent: Sat, 19 June, 2010 12:48:02 AM

Subject: Re: rheumatic Re: flare

Wow! Bali & Thailand sounds so romantic to me. I think of the old movies

and plays like South Pacific and Mutiny on the Bounty and want to go to

all those places including Tahiti.. But am getting old and taking care of

Mom prohibits much more travel. I told Mike, the next trip may be just a

short Carribean cruise to Aruba, northern Venezuela, maybe parts of Central

America, Belize, Jamaica, maybe the Cayman's, etc and then back to Puerto

Rico. I skipped Mexico, because when I lived in California, we toured most

of Mexio by land many times. I fell in love with the Yucatan Peninsula

especially, the Carribean side. Ah! my wanderlust is back. Just wanting to

wander is my personal sign that I have reached full remission. Now if only I

can turn back the clock! Best to all, Dolores

Hi Eva, Have a great trip out west. Visiting your son again! That is

wonderful! Say hello to hubby for us and don't forget to put us on your

agenda when you decide to come South. We have the RV set us as guest quarters.

Sleeps 2 very comfortably. And I found a health store nearby that sells

all types of healthy things including a large assortment of Gluten free

foods. I never saw so many supplements. I was there yesterday and thought a

lot about you and Lynne. Have a wonderful day everybody.

Dolores & Mike

From: Maz <_mazm_mm@..._ (mailto:mazm_mm@...) >

Subject: rheumatic Re: flare

_rheumatic _ (mailto:rheumatic )

Date: Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 11:04 PM

Interesting .. I too don't believe that our body actually starts attacking

good cells. When someone asks me I choose to say I have a comprimised

immune system; but even more interesting is that back in the beginning of my

journey 2 of the rheumies I saw said my immune system was actually depleted

which is why this bacteria had a chance to take hold!

Maz

>

> Dolores,

>

> Every time I read a post from you I am so thrilled that you have got

your life back.

>

> I use the term auto-immune disease for lack of another term as I am not

sure what to call these conditions,. I, like you, do not believe that the

body attacks itself but do not know what else to refer to these diseases.

>

> the term " auto-immune " is understood by most as to what is being

referenced.

>

> hope that helps,

>

> carol_DM

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Hi Judy,

I am not in remission but I am asymptomatic which is close. I don't have any

evidence of the disease & zero symptoms since mid Dec 09 but continue to use AP.

Perhaps Dolores could join in here ??

Maz

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> your life back.

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> > I use the term auto-immune disease for lack of another term as I am not

> sure what to call these conditions,. I, like you, do not believe that the

> body attacks itself but do not know what else to refer to these diseases.

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> >

> > hope that helps,

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Hi Judy,  I had to sit and ponder the same question myself and here is my

version of remission.  At first when some of my symptoms disappeared, like the

Raynaud's, I thought I was in remission.  But then other symptoms appeared like

constant diarrhea.  Then when that disappeared, I thought I went into

remission.  And it went on like that. I didn't realize that I was also in a

mental fog at the time.  I wanted remission so badly, that each change for me

really meant remission and then another symptom would rear its' ugly head and

then suddenly, the symptoms really all disappeared.  I was on a myriad of

antibiotics and going to an Infectious disease doc who was really after

attacking all my bugs, whether they were bacteria/viral or fungal.  It was

clean out the house time and I was sick, but actually getting much stronger. 

Then one day, my blood work came back.  I stared at the results in

disbelief..  They read negative, zero, zilch! 

Everything was once again normal including heart, lung, kidneys, cholesterol

and triglycerides were normal.  My blood work said, there was nothing wrong

with me.  I had xrays and MRI's done.  They were negative.  Doc and I decided

to repeat all tests to make sure.  Yep, all negative. I waited a year and then

had everything tested again.  Still negative.  I asked the folks at the

Roadback if this was remission and they said, by all counts, it sure looks like

it. That was remission for me.  Now, I started to think,  There are others who

are symptom free, but have sero-positive results too, so maybe there are degrees

of remission. Each time I took a step up, for me it was remission.  I don't

think there is a definite definition of remission.  I think it is a step up

from where you were and how far up you are willing or able to go.  Each

person's experience is so different from every other.  With my disease of

scleroderma, each day was a

different and new day during my journey.  And what a journey it was and still

is.  Because of the differences in people, no one really knows the answer to

that question. If you don't feel like you have reach yours yet, keep on working

on it. When you begin to live a normal life and don't spend every waking minute

thinking about your disease any longer, then I think you have reached your level

of remission.  Wishing you the utmost success. Dolores

From: Maz <mazm_mm@...>

Subject: rheumatic Re: flare

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Date: Monday, June 21, 2010, 8:19 PM

 

Hi Judy,

I am not in remission but I am asymptomatic which is close. I don't have any

evidence of the disease & zero symptoms since mid Dec 09 but continue to use AP.

Perhaps Dolores could join in here ??

Maz

> >

> > Dolores,

> >

> > Every time I read a post from you I am so thrilled that you have got

> your life back.

> >

> > I use the term auto-immune disease for lack of another term as I am not

> sure what to call these conditions,. I, like you, do not believe that the

> body attacks itself but do not know what else to refer to these diseases.

> >

> > the term " auto-immune " is understood by most as to what is being

> referenced.

> >

> > hope that helps,

> >

> > carol_DM

> >

> >

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