Guest guest Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 has anyone looked into using a rife machine to destroy bacteria? see this http://www.rife.de/files/arthritisstudy1993.pdf a lot of people with lyme disease re using rife machines to get well. i am reading a book now called when antibiotics fail by bryan rosner on lyme and rifing and it is very interesting. if it works for lyme would it work for the bacteria involved in RA too? monique Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 , The following is from of my earlier posts on the subject of Rife machines. I have done research on Rife machines, which apply very high radio frequencies in the MHz range. The claim is made that a specific resonant radio frequency selected from a long list will explode " bad " germs while somehow sparing " good " germs. The history of Rife machines goes back to 1934. In my assessment, Rife machines are in the same league as snake oil. Related to Rife machines are TENS units (Transcutaneous Electro-Nerve Stimulator units) and EMS units (Electrical Muscle Stimulator units), which operate at a much lower frequencies (or alternating current) in the Hz to kHz range. These deliver electrical impulses to muscles by means of adhesive electrodes, and have indeed been proven to reduce pain. Nearly all units are small, battery powered, and made in China. They carry a retail price from $49 to $249. I purchased one over a year ago, but luckily my pain has subsided without having to use it often. There is no reason which a TENS or EMS unit should not work with the AP. After substantial research, I purchased a Model TENS TS-1211. You may wish to do a Google search on TENS TS-1211 (without quotation marks). This appears to be the same unit as shown at http://www.lgmedsupply.com/tecodiparesy.html. Price there is only $69.99. I paid twice that much You may also do a Google search for " tens units " or " ems units " (in quotation marks). Sincerely, Harald At 09:54 PM 5/8/2008, you wrote: >has anyone looked into using a rife machine to destroy bacteria? see this ><http://www.rife.de/files/arthritisstudy1993.pdf>http://www.rife.de/files/arthr\ itisstudy1993.pdf >a lot of people with lyme disease re using rife machines to get well. i >am reading a book now called when antibiotics fail by bryan rosner on >lyme and rifing and it is very interesting. if it works for lyme would >it work for the bacteria involved in RA too? > >monique Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 , I have used Rife type machines successfully over the last 8 years in a variety of situations. In addition to Rife type machines, you might want to look into multi-wave oscillators. The V.I.B.E. machine is a very popular one, but extremely expensive. However, people who own them usually are willing to let others use them for a small fee. There are less expensive models available. For stories from people with Lyme who have used Rife machines - take a look at this site. http://members.aol.com/theskyking/myhomepage/listings.htm And here is the story of the man who developed the Rife machines - http://www.rense.com/health/rife.htm The GB4000 model is very popular in the lyme-and-rife group, as is the Doug coil. http://www.quantumbalancing.com/gb4000.htm The magnetic pulser or Doug coil were also used by Lyme patients. http://store.highpowermagneticpulser.com/mprima.html http://www.coilmachines.com/ This device is very popular and the company offers support while using it It is like the Rife Bare model. https://www.resonantlight.com/store/customer/home.php You can buy the video and instruction book for making the Jim Bare model here- http://www.electroherbalism.com/Bioelectronics/RifeBare/ Here is a comment on the F-SCAN-2. http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=646306 Purchase at: http://shop.toolsforhealing.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=fscan & Search.x=0 & Search\ ..y=0 & gclid=CPTplc2cnZMCFQ7Vsgod33Mnvw OR http://www.energetic-medicine.net/f-scan.html EMEM machines http://www.rifelabs.com/ http://www.stenulson.net/althealth/index.htm Schematics are available at www.royalrife.com for making an EMEM model. Ethel rheumatic rifing > has anyone looked into using a rife machine to destroy bacteria? see this > http://www.rife.de/files/arthritisstudy1993.pdf > a lot of people with lyme disease re using rife machines to get well. i > am reading a book now called when antibiotics fail by bryan rosner on > lyme and rifing and it is very interesting. if it works for lyme would > it work for the bacteria involved in RA too? > > > monique > > ------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribe@...! Groups > Links > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Harald, are you saying that if I use my TENS unit where I have the most pain it will help me to get better? I have RA, DM and SS with IPF. The RA is everywhere and I have started AP end of January this year and I know it still will take a long time to get well. If I up my unit a little more than what I do right now it may help help to blast some of the problems I have? Can you give me some more info on this, the rife unit is very high priced and the insurance paid for my TENS unit. I have been using it for five weeks and it seems to stop some of the pain. I don't like to take any more meds than I have too or I get very tired and will sleep a lot. Thank you, Eva " Harald Weiss, Technical Marketing Group " <hweiss@...> wrote: , The following is from of my earlier posts on the subject of Rife machines. I have done research on Rife machines, which apply very high radio frequencies in the MHz range. The claim is made that a specific resonant radio frequency selected from a long list will explode " bad " germs while somehow sparing " good " germs. The history of Rife machines goes back to 1934. In my assessment, Rife machines are in the same league as snake oil. Related to Rife machines are TENS units (Transcutaneous Electro-Nerve Stimulator units) and EMS units (Electrical Muscle Stimulator units), which operate at a much lower frequencies (or alternating current) in the Hz to kHz range. These deliver electrical impulses to muscles by means of adhesive electrodes, and have indeed been proven to reduce pain. Nearly all units are small, battery powered, and made in China. They carry a retail price from $49 to $249. I purchased one over a year ago, but luckily my pain has subsided without having to use it often. There is no reason which a TENS or EMS unit should not work with the AP. After substantial research, I purchased a Model TENS TS-1211. You may wish to do a Google search on TENS TS-1211 (without quotation marks). This appears to be the same unit as shown at http://www.lgmedsupply.com/tecodiparesy.html. Price there is only $69.99. I paid twice that much You may also do a Google search for " tens units " or " ems units " (in quotation marks). Sincerely, Harald At 09:54 PM 5/8/2008, you wrote: >has anyone looked into using a rife machine to destroy bacteria? see this ><http://www.rife.de/files/arthritisstudy1993.pdf>http://www.rife.de/files/arthr\ itisstudy1993.pdf >a lot of people with lyme disease re using rife machines to get well. i >am reading a book now called when antibiotics fail by bryan rosner on >lyme and rifing and it is very interesting. if it works for lyme would >it work for the bacteria involved in RA too? > >monique Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Eva, Since you have been using your TENS unit, you probably have more knowledge in its application than most in our Group, and I cannot help you further. Finding the right settings is a challenge, since settable parameters in addition to signal amplitude are signal shape, signal amplitude, duration of application and placement of the electrodes. You will have no choice but to experiment. I would only consider TENS units for topical treatment of pain, not as a long-term treatment like the AP. TENS units are said to be safe, but I would not place the electrodes across the heart or higher than the neck. At only $69.99, the TENS unit described at http://www.lgmedsupply.com/tecodiparesy.html is a bargain and may be worth trying by members of our Group. Sincerely, Harald At 04:33 PM 5/11/2008, you wrote: >Harald, > >Are you saying that if I use my TENS unit where I have the most pain >it will help me to get better? I have RA, DM and SS with IPF. The RA >is everywhere and I have started AP end of January this year and I >know it still will take a long time to get well. >If I up my unit a little more than what I do right now it may help >help to blast some of the problems I have? >Can you give me some more info on this, the rife unit is very high >priced and the insurance paid for my TENS unit. I have been using it >for five weeks and it seems to stop some of the pain. I don't like >to take any more meds than I have too or I get very tired and will sleep a lot. > >Thank you, >Eva > > " Harald Weiss, Technical Marketing Group " ><<mailto:hweiss%40tmgp.com>hweiss@...> wrote: >, > >The following is from of my earlier posts on the subject of Rife machines. > >I have done research on Rife machines, which apply very high radio >frequencies in the MHz range. The claim is made that a specific >resonant radio frequency selected from a long list will explode " bad " >germs while somehow sparing " good " germs. The history of Rife >machines goes back to 1934. In my assessment, Rife machines are in >the same league as snake oil. > >Related to Rife machines are TENS units (Transcutaneous Electro-Nerve >Stimulator units) and EMS units (Electrical Muscle Stimulator units), >which operate at a much lower frequencies (or alternating current) in >the Hz to kHz range. These deliver electrical impulses to muscles by >means of adhesive electrodes, and have indeed been proven to reduce >pain. Nearly all units are small, battery powered, and made in China. >They carry a retail price from $49 to $249. I purchased one over a >year ago, but luckily my pain has subsided without having to use it >often. There is no reason which a TENS or EMS unit should not work >with the AP. > >After substantial research, I purchased a Model TENS TS-1211. You may >wish to do a Google search on TENS TS-1211 (without quotation marks). >This appears to be the same unit as shown at ><http://www.lgmedsupply.com/tecodiparesy.html.>http://www.lgmedsupply.com/tecod\ iparesy.html. >Price there is only >$69.99. I paid twice that much > >You may also do a Google search for " tens units " or " ems units " (in >quotation marks). > >Sincerely, Harald > >At 09:54 PM 5/8/2008, you wrote: > > >has anyone looked into using a rife machine to destroy bacteria? see this > >http://www.rife.de/files/arthritisstudy1993.pdf > >a lot of people with lyme disease re using rife machines to get well. i > >am reading a book now called when antibiotics fail by bryan rosner on > >lyme and rifing and it is very interesting. if it works for lyme would > >it work for the bacteria involved in RA too? > > > >monique > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 I would look into these as well http://meissnerresearch.com/index.php  Steel h 508.520.6905 c 508.922.0519 The harder you work the luckier you get!  ________________________________ From: <wilson33@...> Sent: Mon, June 21, 2010 3:18:10 PM Subject: RE: [ ] Rifing  Judy, it's a machine I borrowed, so don't know. It has 3 dials that adjust it on the top and it's hooked to a battery. Not a very good description I know. I've run 432 for lyme and 395 for ehrlicia (and 10,000 to detox). Is there a reason you don't stick with one freq? Do you get herxing? Re: [ ] Herbs that contain all of Buhners > Protocol in One pill > > I don't have neurological lyme either. I have a range of constantly > shifting symptoms but the one that has been constant and severe is > fatigue (I spent most of 3 years in bed and am still quite limited). > I've heard that fatigue is the last to go. Did you have that? It took > 2 years to diagnose the lyme, then I took just cat's claw which helped > at first but then I slid all the way back after a few months so I went > on antibiotics for 2.5 years. Now I am rifing and starting the Buhner > protocol. I am hopeful but this is such a hard road to travel as everyone on this site knows. > judy > > On Jun 18, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Manno wrote: > > > I had it for 3 years. I tried antibiotics 2 x without success. I am > > on doxycycline for the last 2 months of my Buhner protocol, but I > > started feeling better after 6 months on the Buhner protocol. I did > > not have neurological Lyme, however, so it varies from case to case. > > > > > > On Jun 18, 2010, at 5:55 PM, Judy Blake wrote: > > > >> Wow , that is so wonderful. I don't think I've heard of > >> anyone who has felt 100% better after battling chronic lyme. How > >> long did you have it? Was the Buhner protocol the only treatment > >> you followed? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Judy > >> > >> On Jun 18, 2010, at 5:27 PM, Manno wrote: > >> > >>> I am feeling 100% better since the day I started them 1 year ago. > >>> I am planning to come off them in the next week or so and have > >>> been slowly decreasing my dosage. I am completely satisfied with > >>> the results. > >>> I was getting the pills from Tim in Vermont. Good luck to > >>> everyone! > >>> > >>> On Jun 18, 2010, at 6:44 AM, Anita Pelligra wrote: > >>> > >>>> Can you tell me if you symptoms have diminished and if you > >>>> actually feel better on it rather than just being able to > >>>> tolerate it? I would like to hear that someone has had some > >>>> significant improvement while taking this supplement. > >>>> > >>>> Anita Pelligra > >>>> > >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 > > My husband is like knotweed. He sees me getting well, but i am not a controlled study, so he says it's all nonsense. if you get well, that's a fact that I respect. But usually that proves nothing about the value a specific treatment, if only because most lymies use several treatments at the same time and even if you don't use other treatments (like supplements, diet change, exercise etc.) we don't know what would have happened without the treatment. > I am worried about the safety, long-term, so i'm planning to try the PE-1 with homeopathic nosodes that selma used to cure herself of everything. PE-1 = biophotons? Seems quite something else than rifing, even though the basic 'theories' behind it are a bit similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Rifing works. To take it to another level try the photon genie. Write me if you want to know more. I 've had my machine for two years now. when na organ inside myself or my husband hurts we put the flat part on that spot and in a few hours the pain goes away, as well as regenerting frequencies and kill factor frequencies.  GREAT that you are going that direction. I know how you can get a $100.00 off a new Photon Genie.  Sincerely lymeover and out > >>> > >>>> Can you tell me if you symptoms have diminished and if you > >>>> actually feel better on it rather than just being able to > >>>> tolerate it? I would like to hear that someone has had some > >>>> significant improvement while taking this supplement. > >>>> > >>>> Anita Pelligra > >>>> > >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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