New in need of a quick run down LOL

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My name is and I have had MCTD for 4 1/2 years. My primary problem is

Rheumatoid arthritis. I have tried Methotrexate but can't take it. Bad side

effects. Am currently on Plaquenil and that helped a lot for a couple of years

but then had to add Arava to the mix. I still take the Arava but had to cut my

dose in half due to low white bloodcell count. Well my counts are still low at

the half dosage and it isn't working like it should. My doctor now wants to

start me on Enbrel but I have my reservations. I still have 5 kids at home and

you all know that brings in sickness from school. Not to mention all the black

box warnings that come with these drugs.

Can anyone explain to me the difference fromt he antibiotic protical and the

marshall protocal? I guess I am a little confused. I know I will have a fight

with my rheumatologist about all this because he isn't going to want to

prescribe. He will want to help the drug companies is my guess.

Also does anyone know of any docs in the Kansas City area that uses the Minocin?

I am so frustrated, so tired of trying to find info and tired of being in pain.

I honestly don't know anymore who is for us and who is against us.

Thanks,

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Hi dear, mom of 5 kids. That is a job in itself.,  Being sick makes it

that much more difficult.  But rest your weary head.  You have come to the

right place and asked the right questions.  Antibiotic protocol means exactly

that.  You take antibiotics.  The difference between AP (antibiotic protocol)

and MP (Marshall Protocol)  is that MP is just another version of AP.  Both

use antibiotics.  Start with AP, that is the simplest form and you do not need

to explain anything to the doctor.  If you have not read these two books, and

with five kids,  who has time to read. but you must read them.  " The New

Arthritis Breakthough " , by Henry Scammell and in the same book at midpoint is,

" The Road Back, " by McPerson Brown, M.D.  Dr. Brown is the pioneer of

AP and the books explain AP thoroughly.  I read my copy very often and learn

something new each time. After you have had success with AP,you can branch out

into MP, to mop up any

left over bacteria from co-infections.   MP uses additional antibiotics and in

increasing dosages.  I have done both protocols.  I am in complete remission

from the deadly disease of systemic scleroderma.  I also have been diagnosed

with mixed connective tissue disease & arthritis .  That is why I eventually

tried MP because these co-infections may respond to different antibiotics.  You

can purchase the book, new or used, very cheaply from Amazon.com.  They will

mail it to you.  There is also another article you should read.  It is called

the FAQ sheet the of AP.  FAQ stands for Frequently Asked Questions and will

answer all your questions re: AP.  It is translated into 4 languages.  I live

in Puerto Rico, so I made a copy in Spanish to give to my doc.  To explain

concisely how antibiotic works, is simple. Ask the moderators on this site to

post the FAQ sheet for you to make a printed copy.  AP says, your condition

is of Infectious

origin.  Depressing the immune system is like putting a bandaid on a raging

cancer.  As you already have experimented with those drugs, you already know

they don't do anything to cure and instead do much harm to the body.  You are

smart to refuse them knowing that children are little disease carriers and

without an intact immune system you are subject to any infection passing

through.  Bless the children. they do not know.  They all sneeze and cough on

each other. My husband and I play Santa Claus every Christmas and by New Years

Eve, we used to be both in bed, with inhalers and steam fighting off a

cold.  No more now.  This is a fact of life.  Taking those immune suppressant

toxic drugs leads to a depressed immune system that cannot fight off the

infections.  You are left defenseless.  Antibiotic, to the rescue!  A

tetracycline drug called Minocin is what you need.  You can get that from any

GP.  Most rheumatologists won't go there.

Minocin works by interfering with the infectious bacteria's replication.  It

gets weak when it cannot grow.   Bacteria  feeds off of our proteins, and

when denied they begin to get weak.  Meanwhile, start boosting up your immune

system.  When the bacterial load is lowered, the healthy immune cells, then

begin the cleanup phase of killing an discarding the dead & dying bacteria. You

did not get sick over night.  These bacterias are common and many people carry

them without ever getting sick themselves.  They may be in your body for 20

years or more before they start causing trouble.  Because they are slow in

growing, they are also slow in dying.  It took me 5 years of continuous therapy

with both AP & MP.  I went from bedridden to fully functional and then to full

remission. I had developed Pulmonary Fibrosis as a result and all my other

organs were also sclerosed.  I had been given about 5 more months to live when

I heard about AP. 

That was 2005-now 2010.  I am on a maintenance dose for life of Minocin 100mg

MWF  I started on 100mg of Minocin twice a day,every day.  Then went to

various other antibiotics in increasing dosages.  I took protein powders and

made shakes to boost my immune system and I slept as much as I could.  It is

not a panacea, nor easy to conquer.  It was the most difficult ride of my

life.  Not one I would have signed up for willingly,  But I desperately

wanted to live.  And so do you.  Your children are counting on you. Looking

back, I would do all over again in a heart beat.  Warning, you may and probably

will get sicker before you start getting better.  The book does a good job in

explaining the herxheimer effect.  But, trust me!  The day will come when you

will thank your lucky stars that you persevered.  You want to be there when

your children graduate, or get married.  You will never see that day if you

continue with those toxic meds.

Run from anyone who even suggests methotrexate, Remicade, Enbrel or any of

those.  To know which bacteria or strains of bacteria you have, you should

start by being tested.  An infectious disease doctor is a good one to go to for

this.  Once the source of infection is found, they cannot deny you

antibiotics. Then it is up to you to take them faithfully and get tested

periodically to monitor your progress and check for co-infections.  Some of us

carry a bacterial soup load.  Good luck, Stay with it and keep us informed of

your progress. Your responsibility will be, when you are well, is to write to

others just starting on the path.  The more people we help, the greater our

numbers.  I just read an article where Minocin has been found to arrest the

viral replication in HIV patients.  It won't be long before this protocol will

be accept by the medical profession at large.  We can make that happen.  Right

now, docs make more money keeping us ill

than by curing us.  By attacking the cause and staying well, they lose

money.  Doctors are inbedded with Big Pharm who make these toxic drugs.  The

reps go from office to office giving samples away to court the doctors. They

even buy hugh lunches for the entire staff.  I am a nurse, I have seen it

all.  A simple drug called minocin made from the tetracycline family is low

cost and non toxic.  They have been prescribing it for teenage acne since the

1940's and no teenager has ever died from taking it.  But plenty of people have

died from the expensive toxic drugs including my own first cousin who had lupus

and was treated with steroids. My best to you and to your family.  Dolores &

Mike.  .   

From: ktandtm <ktandtm@...>

Subject: rheumatic New in need of a quick run down LOL

rheumatic

Date: Monday, March 22, 2010, 10:03 AM

 

My name is and I have had MCTD for 4 1/2 years. My primary problem is

Rheumatoid arthritis. I have tried Methotrexate but can't take it. Bad side

effects. Am currently on Plaquenil and that helped a lot for a couple of years

but then had to add Arava to the mix. I still take the Arava but had to cut my

dose in half due to low white bloodcell count. Well my counts are still low at

the half dosage and it isn't working like it should. My doctor now wants to

start me on Enbrel but I have my reservations. I still have 5 kids at home and

you all know that brings in sickness from school. Not to mention all the black

box warnings that come with these drugs.

Can anyone explain to me the difference fromt he antibiotic protical and the

marshall protocal? I guess I am a little confused. I know I will have a fight

with my rheumatologist about all this because he isn't going to want to

prescribe. He will want to help the drug companies is my guess.

Also does anyone know of any docs in the Kansas City area that uses the Minocin?

I am so frustrated, so tired of trying to find info and tired of being in pain.

I honestly don't know anymore who is for us and who is against us.

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your post. I just bought the book, plan on reading it and hoping to

get one of my docs on board. So glad to hear of your remission. That is awesome!

You are so kind to respond to me. I really appreciate it. I will keep you

updated on what I can accomplish on my end.

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Rheumatoid arthritis. I have tried Methotrexate but can't take it. Bad side

effects. Am currently on Plaquenil and that helped a lot for a couple of years

but then had to add Arava to the mix. I still take the Arava but had to cut my

dose in half due to low white bloodcell count. Well my counts are still low at

the half dosage and it isn't working like it should. My doctor now wants to

start me on Enbrel but I have my reservations. I still have 5 kids at home and

you all know that brings in sickness from school. Not to mention all the black

box warnings that come with these drugs.

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> Can anyone explain to me the difference fromt he antibiotic protical and the

marshall protocal? I guess I am a little confused. I know I will have a fight

with my rheumatologist about all this because he isn't going to want to

prescribe. He will want to help the drug companies is my guess.

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> Also does anyone know of any docs in the Kansas City area that uses the

Minocin? I am so frustrated, so tired of trying to find info and tired of being

in pain. I honestly don't know anymore who is for us and who is against us.

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[Guest guest]

Anytime you need some supportive measures, just write to one or more of the

support group sites.  We all read most of them and someone is sure to answer a

question or give you a boost.  We all need that sometimes.  And this will be a

journey that may get difficult at times.  Have a good read.  Best to you,

Dolores

From: ktandtm <ktandtm@...>

Subject: rheumatic Re: New in need of a quick run down LOL

rheumatic

Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 7:50 PM

 

Thanks for your post. I just bought the book, plan on reading it and hoping to

get one of my docs on board. So glad to hear of your remission. That is awesome!

You are so kind to respond to me. I really appreciate it. I will keep you

updated on what I can accomplish on my end.

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> Subject: rheumatic New in need of a quick run down LOL

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Rheumatoid arthritis. I have tried Methotrexate but can't take it. Bad side

effects. Am currently on Plaquenil and that helped a lot for a couple of years

but then had to add Arava to the mix. I still take the Arava but had to cut my

dose in half due to low white bloodcell count. Well my counts are still low at

the half dosage and it isn't working like it should. My doctor now wants to

start me on Enbrel but I have my reservations. I still have 5 kids at home and

you all know that brings in sickness from school. Not to mention all the black

box warnings that come with these drugs.

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> Can anyone explain to me the difference fromt he antibiotic protical and the

marshall protocal? I guess I am a little confused. I know I will have a fight

with my rheumatologist about all this because he isn't going to want to

prescribe. He will want to help the drug companies is my guess.

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> Also does anyone know of any docs in the Kansas City area that uses the

Minocin? I am so frustrated, so tired of trying to find info and tired of being

in pain. I honestly don't know anymore who is for us and who is against us.

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