Guest guest Posted March 22, 2002 Report Share Posted March 22, 2002 you don't want to know how much the meat industy has deteriorated in thirty years. 'I have seen it first hand and if you read " fast food nation " you will get a " nice " picture of the degeneration alecwood wrote: > > > Yesterday I ate a buffalo patty from trader joe's -- raw. I had two defrosting > > When I was a child in the early 1960s I often ate raw ground meat. I really liked it (my parents didn't know, they weren't home when I did). Of course I was stunned when several people died from e.coli in the early 1990s from eating undercooked fast food hamburgers. Has the meat industry in the U.S. deteriorated that much in the 30 years from 1962 to 1992? Or was I just lucky in 1962? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2002 Report Share Posted March 22, 2002 It sure has! I remember Mom eating raw ground meat (home or local raised) in the early 60's whenever she was packaging it up for the freezer. Raw hot dogs too. If I remember right on the hot dogs we got them from a man who made them from pork that we raised or was up for sale after processing. The diseases that brought on the laws since the 60's were not around here. Everyone ate local raised meat and drank raw milk. All I saw was money being made by non farmers and the 9-5 workday instead of living from the land. Some of the statistics on calf mortality, milking years of rgbh cows discussed this week have blown me away. Funny you talk about sneaking the raw ground meat.Must have been instinctual. My husband told me of his first deer as a young teen. He sliced a piece of the liver off while dressing and ate it raw with his Dad there. His Dad was shocked but its the honorable thing to do in many native cultures. Wanita At 10:27 AM 3/22/02 -0600, you wrote: >you don't want to know how much the meat industy has deteriorated in thirty years. >'I have seen it first hand and if you read " fast food nation " you will get a " nice " picture of the degeneration > >alecwood wrote: > >> >> > Yesterday I ate a buffalo patty from trader joe's -- raw. I had two defrosting >> >> When I was a child in the early 1960s I often ate raw ground meat. I really liked it (my parents didn't know, they weren't home when I did). Of course I was stunned when several people died from e.coli in the early 1990s from eating undercooked fast food hamburgers. Has the meat industry in the U.S. deteriorated that much in the 30 years from 1962 to 1992? Or was I just lucky in 1962? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2002 Report Share Posted March 22, 2002 Alec- >Has the meat industry in the U.S. deteriorated that much in the 30 years >from 1962 to 1992? Or was I just lucky in 1962? Yes, and probably no. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2002 Report Share Posted March 23, 2002 I have hauled cattle to the plants discribed at Emporia Ks. and worked out west with people who worked for a short time in those facilities. They virtually threw up for the first week working in the slaughter plants given the carnage they had to endure. it was reported in the early 80s that every one on a satistical basis would at some point work for IBP who lived in Kansas. thats how much turn over was at those plants. dkemnitz2000 wrote: > > > you don't want to know how much the meat industy has deteriorated in > thirty years. > > 'I have seen it first hand and if you read " fast food nation " you > will get a " nice " picture of the degeneration > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>............>>>>>>>>>>>>What's the real " first hand " > meaning of " deteriorated " ? Dennis Kemnitz > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2002 Report Share Posted March 23, 2002 Is that Armour's processing plant? They're Con-Agra the second largest food corp. in the world. Con -Agra bought Lightlife, a locally owned successful soy food product manufacturer a few years back. Someone in town quit because of them selling out and knowing it wouldn't be long to genetically engineered soybeans. Shortly after I saw a net article that Armour workers were on strike to get a worker's union. All workers in the photo were Hispanic. Not surprising they've always disrespected the workers like the livestock. My Dad gave me self respect in relation to work when he refused to cut meat in grocery stores after the slaughterhouse he worked at was closed because of the cost of tiling for new health regs. He wasn't going to have someone tell him how to do what he'd done just fine for years. Wanita At 12:50 AM 3/23/02 -0600, you wrote: >I have hauled cattle to the plants discribed at Emporia Ks. and worked out >west with people who worked for a short time in those facilities. >They virtually threw up for the first week working in the slaughter plants >given the carnage they had to endure. >it was reported in the early 80s that every one on a satistical basis would >at some point work for IBP who lived in Kansas. thats how much turn over was >at those plants. > >dkemnitz2000 wrote: > >> >> > you don't want to know how much the meat industy has deteriorated in >> thirty years. >> > 'I have seen it first hand and if you read " fast food nation " you >> will get a " nice " picture of the degeneration >> > >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>............>>>>>>>>>>>>What's the real " first hand " >> meaning of " deteriorated " ? Dennis Kemnitz >> > >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2002 Report Share Posted March 27, 2002 At 12:26 AM 3/27/02 +0000, you wrote: > > Not >> surprising >> they've always disrespected the workers like the livestock. > > > >Dennis writes:and their consumers too? > Its a real raw deal :-) Wanita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2002 Report Share Posted March 29, 2002 >> > >> > Not >> >> surprising >> >> they've always disrespected the workers like the livestock. >> > >> >Dennis writes:and their consumers too? >> > >> Its a real raw deal :-) >> Wanita >>>>>>>>>>>>>I think this calls for another acronym of sorts:Sad S.A.D. >or (SAD)squared. Is this one bad as in not good? Dennis ***** How about SAADD, Standard American Abusive Diet Deception? The deceptors run the gamut from the end product profiteers to the agency promoters to the media reporting. They deceive and abuse the gamut of humanity from the farmer, employee, consumer to the soil, plant and animal life. Actions, words and products are powerful. From truth they are healthy and regenerating. From falsity they are harmful or even deadly. As humans we have the choice and ability to accept in full, part or to put up our b***s*** meter to find truth, what works and is humane to all life. What happens in the meantime until truth naturally replaces the falsities of deception promoters should be criminal and is a real raw deal to those affected. No one is going to have the perfect piece for themself. Its got to fit the rest of the puzzle or be useless. Wanita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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