Guest guest Posted March 1, 2002 Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 Hello, I've been lurking on this list for a few months and have enjoyed all the wonderful information. I'm a bit oversubscribed to various lists, which is why I haven't been posting here - but I do read and enjoy the posts. As a brief intro, I have been studying canine nutrition informally for about a year and a half, and own a small private email list dedicated to advanced topics in canine and feline nutrition. Recently, I've become interested in human nutrition. I have Dr. Price's book, NT, and " Know Your Fats " among other nutrition-related books. I also attended a meeting of my local chapter of the Price Foundation recently here in Maine and will continue as I'm interested in the NT/Price approach to health/nutrition. Now back to the subject line. I recently read an article re treating IBD with worms: http://www.ccfa.org/medcentral/research/clinical/wkly0827.htm I got one of the researcher's email address (Dr. Weinstock) and asked where I could read further about his research. He emailed me tWo research studies, the first a Word doc titled " Trichuris suis APPEARS TO BE SAFE AND POSSIBLY EFFECTIVE IN THE TREATMENT OF INFLAMMATORY BOWEL DISEASE " and the second a PDF titled, " Does the failure to acquire helminthic parasites predispose to Crohn's Disease? " Is anyone familiar with the 'Worm Hypothesis'? The basic hypothesis is that peoples in industrialized nations who live in very hygienic environments have A much higher incidence of IBD than those living in developing nations and tropical climates (where helminths are common). The researchers showed experimentally how helminths in the gut prevent inflammation and lead to resistance to diseases - viral, bacterial, etc. The authors state that both helminths and their eggs stimulate a Th2 response which regulates immune reactions to " unrelated parasitic, bacterial and viral infections. " And so, we, who live in overly clean environments, have lower helminth populations in our gut, and are thus more prone to gut problems such as IBD, Crohn's, etc. I'm sure there's much more to be learned about the benefits of parasites, but this research suggests, to me at least, that the notion of parasites as simply 'bad' or harmful is not true. Perhaps *certain* parasites in the *right* quantity are beneficial, and even, possibly, necessary for optimal health..? It would be interesting to know more about the gut ecology of our pre-industrial ancestors. As with primitive nutrition, *perhaps* it could serve as a model of better health for us moderns. MORE INFO Interview with Dr. Weinstock http://ibd.patientcommunity.com/features/weinstock.cfm?link_id=1786 Does the failure to acquire helminthic parasites predispose to Crohn’s disease? http://www.fasebj.org/cgi/content/full/14/12/1848 Will Helminths Become the Future Treatment for Inflammatory Bowel Disease? http://www.uihealthcare.com/news/currents/vol2issue1/1helminths.html Iowa Researchers Unearth Potential Treatment for IBD: Intestinal Worms http://www.ccfa.org/weekly/previous/wkly0827.htm Diet of worms solves gut problems http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_412000/412142.stm Suze Fisher Web Design & Development http://www.suscom-maine.net/~cfisher/ mailto:cfisher@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2002 Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 Earth Dragon extract is a very good treatment for Cohn's and BID. It's one common example of how parasites alter the immune system of the host. In this case a shift toward cell-mediated immunity, (which is deal if you have HIV or CFIDS) and away from humeral immunity - because humeral immunity kills parasites and extracellular bacteria. If you were injured suddenly and developed a septic wound, being Th-1 dominant would accelerate your demise. There must be a balance. Are you beginning to see now how these critters work? They survive by altering the immune system. Eons of evolution have taught them exactly which chemicals to secrete to do the job. They know you better than anyone! But there are far more dangerous manipulations than the Earth Dragon example. I'm *not* being critical of anyone who wants to eat raw foods. It is more nutritious! But parasites can pose health risks and I cannot understand why I'd be criticized for saying that. Its pretty much common sense whether you have a microbiology degree or not. Rose ----- Original Message ----- From: Suze Fisher Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 3:56 PM Subject: paradox of parasites - health-promoting parasites Hello, I've been lurking on this list for a few months and have enjoyed all the wonderful information. I'm a bit oversubscribed to various lists, which is why I haven't been posting here - but I do read and enjoy the posts. As a brief intro, I have been studying canine nutrition informally for about a year and a half, and own a small private email list dedicated to advanced topics in canine and feline nutrition. Recently, I've become interested in human nutrition. I have Dr. Price's book, NT, and " Know Your Fats " among other nutrition-related books. I also attended a meeting of my local chapter of the Price Foundation recently here in Maine and will continue as I'm interested in the NT/Price approach to health/nutrition. Now back to the subject line. I recently read an article re treating IBD with worms: http://www.ccfa.org/medcentral/research/clinical/wkly0827.htm I got one of the researcher's email address (Dr. Weinstock) and asked where I could read further about his research. He emailed me tWo research studies, the first a Word doc titled " Trichuris suis APPEARS TO BE SAFE AND POSSIBLY EFFECTIVE IN THE TREATMENT OF INFLAMMATORY BOWEL DISEASE " and the second a PDF titled, " Does the failure to acquire helminthic parasites predispose to Crohn's Disease? " Is anyone familiar with the 'Worm Hypothesis'? The basic hypothesis is that peoples in industrialized nations who live in very hygienic environments have A much higher incidence of IBD than those living in developing nations and tropical climates (where helminths are common). The researchers showed experimentally how helminths in the gut prevent inflammation and lead to resistance to diseases - viral, bacterial, etc. The authors state that both helminths and their eggs stimulate a Th2 response which regulates immune reactions to " unrelated parasitic, bacterial and viral infections. " And so, we, who live in overly clean environments, have lower helminth populations in our gut, and are thus more prone to gut problems such as IBD, Crohn's, etc. I'm sure there's much more to be learned about the benefits of parasites, but this research suggests, to me at least, that the notion of parasites as simply 'bad' or harmful is not true. Perhaps *certain* parasites in the *right* quantity are beneficial, and even, possibly, necessary for optimal health..? It would be interesting to know more about the gut ecology of our pre-industrial ancestors. As with primitive nutrition, *perhaps* it could serve as a model of better health for us moderns. MORE INFO Interview with Dr. Weinstock http://ibd.patientcommunity.com/features/weinstock.cfm?link_id=1786 Does the failure to acquire helminthic parasites predispose to Crohn's disease? http://www.fasebj.org/cgi/content/full/14/12/1848 Will Helminths Become the Future Treatment for Inflammatory Bowel Disease? http://www.uihealthcare.com/news/currents/vol2issue1/1helminths.html Iowa Researchers Unearth Potential Treatment for IBD: Intestinal Worms http://www.ccfa.org/weekly/previous/wkly0827.htm Diet of worms solves gut problems http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_412000/412142.stm Suze Fisher Web Design & Development http://www.suscom-maine.net/~cfisher/ mailto:cfisher@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2002 Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 RedWineRedRoses wrote: > But parasites can pose health risks and I cannot understand why I'd be criticized for saying that. Its pretty much common sense whether you have a microbiology degree or not. > Rose The reason being is that in our history there have been multiple example of " common sense " things that later were proved wrong: Earth is flat, objects that are heavier than air can't fly, eggs are bad due to their cholesterol content, etc. It is OK to question what is common sense thing now -- that is how progress is often made. Roman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2002 Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 Thank you Suze for the info. I have some friends who are really into Hulda 's book " A cure for all diseases " and have always questioned the (seemingly obsessive) need to pretty much sterilize everything to keep it free of parasites. I've always believed that a great deal of these critters live in harmony with us and are what keeps us healthy. This really confirms my beliefs. Gianine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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