Re: Why I'm Not A Vegetarian

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Another good one is by Barry Groves at http://www.second-opinion.co.uk

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>From: bianca3@...

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Why I'm Not A Vegetarian

>Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 11:05:34 -0800

>

>Here is an interesting article from a medical doctor on why he gave up

>vegetarianism:

>

>http://www.acsh.org/publications/priorities/0902/vegetarian.html

>

>I especially like the distinction he makes between a pragmatic vegetarian

>and a crusading one. He even calls them a danger to society :-). Ahhh...a

>man after my own heart.

>

>Bianca

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[Guest guest]

I should probably say that I would not necessarily agree with everything

in the article, nor do I know anything about the author or any previous

work he has done. I just like the overall concept he puts forth in this

article regarding vegetarianism. So please don't write me with the

assumption that I agree with all the specifics. Thanks.

Bianca

On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 11:05:34 -0800 bianca3@... writes:

Here is an interesting article from a medical doctor on why he gave up

vegetarianism:

http://www.acsh.org/publications/priorities/0902/vegetarian.html

I especially like the distinction he makes between a pragmatic vegetarian

and a crusading one. He even calls them a danger to society :-). Ahhh...a

man after my own heart.

Bianca

[Guest guest]

Yep, that is a good one.

Bianca

On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 09:24:50 -1000 " Dr. Byrnes "

<daxx404@...> writes:

Another good one is by Barry Groves at http://www.second-opinion.co.uk

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>From: bianca3@...

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Why I'm Not A Vegetarian

>Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 11:05:34 -0800

>

>Here is an interesting article from a medical doctor on why he gave up

>vegetarianism:

>

>http://www.acsh.org/publications/priorities/0902/vegetarian.html

>

>I especially like the distinction he makes between a pragmatic

vegetarian

>and a crusading one. He even calls them a danger to society :-).

Ahhh...a

>man after my own heart.

>

>Bianca

All the best,

Byrnes, PhD, RNCP

http://www.PowerHealth.net

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But beyondveg.com reigns supreme over all the anti-veggie websites!

My favorite though is the 'beyond polemics' website that attemps to

rebut beyondveg. Some of their rebuttals are incredibly absurd (like

speculating without any evidance whatsoever that we evolved heme iron

receptors to absorb the heme iron in our own blood after internal

injuries). A weak rebutal is the best form of corroboration!

http://venus.nildram.co.uk/veganmc/polemics.htm

[Guest guest]

Sorry! Its actually http://www.second-opinions.co.uk

>From: bianca3@...

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: Why I'm Not A Vegetarian

>Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 11:27:32 -0800

>

>Yep, that is a good one.

>

>Bianca

>

>On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 09:24:50 -1000 " Dr. Byrnes "

><daxx404@...> writes:

>Another good one is by Barry Groves at http://www.second-opinion.co.uk

>

>SCB

>

>

> >From: bianca3@...

> >Reply-

> >

> >Subject: Why I'm Not A Vegetarian

> >Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 11:05:34 -0800

> >

> >Here is an interesting article from a medical doctor on why he gave up

> >vegetarianism:

> >

> >http://www.acsh.org/publications/priorities/0902/vegetarian.html

> >

> >I especially like the distinction he makes between a pragmatic

>vegetarian

> >and a crusading one. He even calls them a danger to society :-).

>Ahhh...a

> >man after my own heart.

> >

> >Bianca

>

>

>

>

>All the best,

>

> Byrnes, PhD, RNCP

>http://www.PowerHealth.net

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I've corresponded with Tom Billings, the webmaster of Beyond Veg a few

times. He said he gets offers for cyber debates all the time and turns them

down for obvious reasons (it takes too much time!). I'm not sure, though, if

he's seen this other rebuttal website.

Like I said in other posts, it is is simply amazing the lengths people will

go to to defend their religious beliefs and paradigms. It appears that the

folks who sponsor the site you mentioned are no exceptions.

The material brings to mind that recent cyber debate I had with " vegetarian "

Janson, MD, via Mercola's e-zine. As some of you know, I took

Mercola to task about his poor handling of the debate in my March 1 e-zine.

Without any correspondance to me, the debate suddenly stopped and all traces

of it disappeared from back issues of Mercola's newsletter. Nevertheless,

Janson's silly rebuttals can be viewed at my site. ly, I was getting

exasperated and pissed off at the pettiness of his arguments. It seemed like

he was picking the littlest, itsy bitsiest things to argue about--things

that need not have been discussed at all. And often, the arguments were

quite stupid. I was wondering how this guy got out of medical school!

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>From: " justinbond " <justin_bond@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: Why I'm Not A Vegetarian

>Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 19:31:08 -0000

>

>But beyondveg.com reigns supreme over all the anti-veggie websites!

>

>My favorite though is the 'beyond polemics' website that attemps to

>rebut beyondveg. Some of their rebuttals are incredibly absurd (like

>speculating without any evidance whatsoever that we evolved heme iron

>receptors to absorb the heme iron in our own blood after internal

>injuries). A weak rebutal is the best form of corroboration!

>

>http://venus.nildram.co.uk/veganmc/polemics.htm

>

>

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The guy who wrote the article is Jarvis, MD, a notorious opponent of

alternative medicine (he's quite chummy with Barrett who runs the

QuackWatch website).

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>From: bianca3@...

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: Why I'm Not A Vegetarian

>Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 11:26:14 -0800

>

>I should probably say that I would not necessarily agree with everything

>in the article, nor do I know anything about the author or any previous

>work he has done. I just like the overall concept he puts forth in this

>article regarding vegetarianism. So please don't write me with the

>assumption that I agree with all the specifics. Thanks.

>

>Bianca

>

>On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 11:05:34 -0800 bianca3@... writes:

>Here is an interesting article from a medical doctor on why he gave up

>vegetarianism:

>

>http://www.acsh.org/publications/priorities/0902/vegetarian.html

>

>I especially like the distinction he makes between a pragmatic vegetarian

>and a crusading one. He even calls them a danger to society :-). Ahhh...a

>man after my own heart.

>

>Bianca

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Interesting on the SDA references. A friend of ours whose mother is a Seventh

Day Adventist told us that she and five other women have followed that diet.

Four of the six women have died of stomach cancer.

Wanita

At 11:05 AM 3/21/02 -0800, you wrote:

>Here is an interesting article from a medical doctor on why he gave up

>vegetarianism:

>

><http://www.acsh.org/publications/priorities/0902/vegetarian.html>http://w

ww.acsh.org/publications/priorities/0902/vegetarian.html

>

>I especially like the distinction he makes between a pragmatic vegetarian

>and a crusading one. He even calls them a danger to society :-). Ahhh...a

>man after my own heart.

>

>Bianca

>

[Guest guest]

And don't forget the AJCN study that showed that vegetarian SDAs had higher

rates of several cancers than the general population--some quite

significantly. The rates of endometrial cancer were so high that the authors

of the paper expressed alarm. (Mills, Beeson, , and Fraser. AJCN

1994;59(suppl):1136S-1142S.)

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>From: Wanita Sears <wanitawa@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: Why I'm Not A Vegetarian

>Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 08:58:32 -0500

>

>Interesting on the SDA references. A friend of ours whose mother is a

>Seventh

>Day Adventist told us that she and five other women have followed that

>diet.

>Four of the six women have died of stomach cancer.

>Wanita

>At 11:05 AM 3/21/02 -0800, you wrote:

> >Here is an interesting article from a medical doctor on why he gave up

> >vegetarianism:

> >

> ><http://www.acsh.org/publications/priorities/0902/vegetarian.html>http://w

>ww.acsh.org/publications/priorities/0902/vegetarian.html

> >

> >I especially like the distinction he makes between a pragmatic vegetarian

> >and a crusading one. He even calls them a danger to society :-). Ahhh...a

> >man after my own heart.

> >

> >Bianca

> >

>

>

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On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 12:07:05 -1000 " Dr. Byrnes "

<daxx404@...> writes:

Without any correspondance to me, the debate suddenly stopped and all

traces

of it disappeared from back issues of Mercola's newsletter. Nevertheless,

Janson's silly rebuttals can be viewed at my site. ly, I was getting

exasperated and pissed off at the pettiness of his arguments. It seemed

like

he was picking the littlest, itsy bitsiest things to argue about--things

that need not have been discussed at all. And often, the arguments were

quite stupid. I was wondering how this guy got out of medical school!

SCB

ME: Are you kidding me?!! Some of the most narrow and uncritical

" thinkers " I have ever met have an MD behind their name. Your comment

doesn't surprise me at all.

Bianca

[Guest guest]

> On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 12:07:05 -1000 " Dr. Byrnes "

> <daxx404@h...> writes:

> Without any correspondance to me, the debate suddenly stopped and

all

> traces

> of it disappeared from back issues of Mercola's newsletter.

I found it at

http://www.mercola.com/2002/jan/19/vegetarianism_myths_01.htm

Roman