Guest guest Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 Tim, I will say a prayer that your surgery is a success. I don't know about a Neodisk, will need to find an explanation somewhere-google. I had an anterior fusion at C5-6 years ago. So, perhaps we have a similar experience? I do know the loneliness of ha ving a disabling injury, but there are good people out there, believe it or not. Sounds like you found two, those being who took you in. Good luck. I wish you peace for today. All my best, :-) From: Tim <twdmusic1@...> Subject: surgery monday spinal problems Date: Sunday, June 29, 2008, 12:37 PM Hello everyone and sorry I havent been as visible lately. I have my surgery coming up on Monday and ive been busy preparing for my time laid up. It will be another disk replacement surgery using the Neodisk, which is what has been installed in my neck since 12/07 @ C5- 6. For whatever reason, I am 1 out of 45 that have had this gem installed, and for whatever reason, I have been having difficulties. The exception to the rule seems to be my life story. The depression can be really overwhelming because of the alienation from people that say they are my friends, work, socializing, and the like. It has been a rediculously fought battle that has affected everything in my life, as I have been unable to work now for 4 years. I live on an extremely low disability stipend, yet im blessed by 2 wonderful people whom have allowed me into their home. We are basically the house of misfits....lol. Anyway, for anyone who cares, my surgery will be at 8am tomorrow, Mon. the 30th. Any prayer and positive vibes would be greatly appreciated . Ty all for being here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 TY and yes, I am blessed to have come across them! Thank you as well for your prayers http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/52177.php The Neodisk made by Nuvasive is a cool little device that takes the place of the original disk and acts as the disk does with a spongy lil disk that is made of similar material like breast implants incased in a kind of plastic vertabrae that gives full range of motion as opposed to a fusion which limits range of motion. Personally I dont care at this point which one i get, as long as it works! Love n Peace, Tim Rock Hard Rock Forever! From: Tim <twdmusic1 (DOT) com> Subject: surgery monday spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com Date: Sunday, June 29, 2008, 12:37 PM Hello everyone and sorry I havent been as visible lately. I have my surgery coming up on Monday and ive been busy preparing for my time laid up. It will be another disk replacement surgery using the Neodisk, which is what has been installed in my neck since 12/07 @ C5- 6. For whatever reason, I am 1 out of 45 that have had this gem installed, and for whatever reason, I have been having difficulties. The exception to the rule seems to be my life story. The depression can be really overwhelming because of the alienation from people that say they are my friends, work, socializing, and the like. It has been a rediculously fought battle that has affected everything in my life, as I have been unable to work now for 4 years. I live on an extremely low disability stipend, yet im blessed by 2 wonderful people whom have allowed me into their home. We are basically the house of misfits....lol. Anyway, for anyone who cares, my surgery will be at 8am tomorrow, Mon. the 30th. Any prayer and positive vibes would be greatly appreciated . Ty all for being here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 I am having major surgery tomorrow to revise my total hip replacement. This is necessary because my right hip replacement is not stable and keeps dislocating. This is very painful as your can imagine. It has already dislocated twice this year. Last Wednesday was the tenth time. The biggest danger for this type of surgery is an infection. I haven't taken any of the arthritis drugs like Methotrexate or Enbrel. Instead I have worked to make My immune system strong with how I eat and what supplements I take. I have been on minocycline since 1998, a few months after I was diagnosed and told if I didn't take methotrexate I would be in a wheel chair within a few months. Then along came Enbrel and Humira et al. I stuck with the antibiotic protocol. I had to have total hip replacement because the hip cups and balls do not fit together properly and my hip cartilage got prematurely chewed up. This will be my fourth hip surgery. So far so good -- no infections yet. Several years ago I had to have a hysterectomy because of endomitriol cancer. It was caught in plenty of time and it was certainly a good thing to have a good immune system to deal with the cancer. I think I bet my life with the decision to go for the antibiotic protocol and I believe it was a good bet. Originally my doctor was skeptical but when he saw how well I was doing he educated himself on the protocol. He told me it is now the first treatment he offers his new patients. I have Kaiser which is the biggest HMO in our country and I am delighted to have my experience replicated. My thanks to all the " old timers " on the list for giving me the life saving information I needed. I am grateful and I hope you will say a prayer on my behalf. Hugs, in Portland, OR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 , I hope your surgery was a great success and you are up and about soon. Prayers are coming your way. Cooky Subject: rheumatic surgery Monday I am having major surgery tomorrow to revise my total hip replacement. This is necessary because my right hip replacement is not stable and keeps dislocating. This is very painful as your can imagine. It has already dislocated twice this year. Last Wednesday was the tenth time. The biggest danger for this type of surgery is an infection. I haven't taken any of the arthritis drugs like Methotrexate or Enbrel. Instead I have worked to make My immune system strong with how I eat and what supplements I take. I have been on minocycline since 1998, a few months after I was diagnosed and told if I didn't take methotrexate I would be in a wheel chair within a few months. Then along came Enbrel and Humira et al. I stuck with the antibiotic protocol. I had to have total hip replacement because the hip cups and balls do not fit together properly and my hip cartilage got prematurely chewed up. This will be my fourth hip surgery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 It was recently discussed on a list I'm on that ViT C will make general anesthesia process more quickly through the body so they would need to give you more to have it stay in the right zone. However, that should be fully monitored by the anesthesiologist, that you would be showing signs of needing more. I don't know what the answer is on that. I would be increasing my probiotics in a big way and plan to keep it up throughout the antibiotic period and beyond for many weeks. Kefir is superior to yogurt for recolonizing the gut. Kefir or guaranteed-live yogurt combined with powdered or capsule probiotics is a very potent way to do it-- the probiotics are enhanced by taking with the fermented dairy (or you can use the non-dairy kefirs that are available, there is a coconut milk kefir widely available). Taken with meals it helps digest the meal. Taken between meals it helps recolonize the gut. So both are needed. Also don't know if you already do this but I like to take psyllium capsules when my gut is acting up-- it's gentle fiber that helps the gut feel better and work better. The better your gut is working the better off you'll be for all of this. -- At 09:46 PM 7/15/2011, you wrote: >Help! >I have to have surgery on my shoulder, ugh, on Monday and I wondered if >anyone could give me advice on additional measures to take, or changes to >make, to my iodine protocol to promote healing and deal with the >onslaught of drugs I will be given for the surgery, for pain and the >prevention of infection. I already deal with Candida, and will be given a >round of antibiotics as routine. ALso, I have had such trouble recently >regulating my GI system; meds will worsen it. > >I am on 200mgs iodine, with companions, for thyroid cancer. They told me >to STOP all supplements except NTH for one week prior to this. Of course I >have kept up with iodine protocol, but I have never had surgery and want >it and all of it residual effects to be gone quickly. > >Should I keep this protocol up through the weekend? What should I add to >help my body not have a setback in fighting cancer because of the toxins >of anesthesia? > >Thank you much! > >Marcy > > > > > >------------------------------------ > >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT >group IodineOT/ > > >The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) >iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20-%20READ\ %20FIRST/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 Hi Marcy, I don't know about all of your questions but read recently that someone had trouble controlling pain after surgery due to their high vitamin C intake. You may want to consider stopping it for the weekend. > > > Help! > I have to have surgery on my shoulder, ugh, on Monday and I wondered if anyone could give me advice on additional measures to take, or changes to make, to my iodine protocol to promote healing and deal with the onslaught of drugs I will be given for the surgery, for pain and the prevention of infection. I already deal with Candida, and will be given a round of antibiotics as routine. ALso, I have had such trouble recently regulating my GI system; meds will worsen it. > > I am on 200mgs iodine, with companions, for thyroid cancer. They told me to STOP all supplements except NTH for one week prior to this. Of course I have kept up with iodine protocol, but I have never had surgery and want it and all of it residual effects to be gone quickly. > > Should I keep this protocol up through the weekend? What should I add to help my body not have a setback in fighting cancer because of the toxins of anesthesia? > > Thank you much! > > Marcy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 About half of homeopathic remedies cause bleeding issues so there are some good reasons to stop some things.... That is what they told me so I did. PamOn Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 8:27 PM, <itsmelindad@...> wrote: Hi Marcy, I don't know about all of your questions but read recently that someone had trouble controlling pain after surgery due to their high vitamin C intake. You may want to consider stopping it for the weekend. > > > Help! > I have to have surgery on my shoulder, ugh, on Monday and I wondered if anyone could give me advice on additional measures to take, or changes to make, to my iodine protocol to promote healing and deal with the onslaught of drugs I will be given for the surgery, for pain and the prevention of infection. I already deal with Candida, and will be given a round of antibiotics as routine. ALso, I have had such trouble recently regulating my GI system; meds will worsen it. > > I am on 200mgs iodine, with companions, for thyroid cancer. They told me to STOP all supplements except NTH for one week prior to this. Of course I have kept up with iodine protocol, but I have never had surgery and want it and all of it residual effects to be gone quickly. > > Should I keep this protocol up through the weekend? What should I add to help my body not have a setback in fighting cancer because of the toxins of anesthesia? > > Thank you much! > > Marcy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 Don't know what of my experience applies to shoulder surgery, but here are a few notes from abdominal surgery.1. Don't let them remove the catheter before they remove the IV, because that IV will keep liquids POURING through you, & you will have to get up over & over & over again ALL NIGHT to pee if they take out the catheter first, & you need your REST. (If there even is a catheter & IV for your surgery.) It is one thing to get up & walk around the floor, at a time of your choosing, to keep your blood moving. It is another thing entirely to be up all night wrestling the IV pole into the bathroom & back. PHOOEY!2. When I had my fibroid surgery, they made me fast before & after the surgery, & then told me I couldn't leave the hospital till I had my first bowel movement. When I DID have that first bowel movement, it felt like I was passing razor blades. I cried on the pot. The next time I had surgery, I had my husband bring me chewable fiber tablets (which I munched on between my sumptuous meals of Jello & chicken broth), & I asked the nurses for prune juice constantly. No problem -- nice, healthy BM in record time with no pain. How they expect you to make a good BM with Jello I do not know. But since they are only giving you Jello & broth at that stage, I am sure your doctor would not approve... So try this at your own risk. Or if your doc is a good one, ask about it. (Then again, this might not be an issue with shoulder surgery.)3. I read that you should always ask for a multi-vitamin IV when you have surgery. Naturally, my doc did not want to cooperate, but he did finally agree. And then when I woke up, I didn't have a multi-vitamin IV. (He conveniently forgot.) So I made the nurses call him at home to authorize it, & they put me on it. Hand to God, it was like watching "The Wizard of Oz." Everything was in black & white, & suddenly POUF! everything was in color! I felt so much better -- INSTANTLY. (My doc, of course, believed this was placebo effect.) When I tried to tell the nurse how much better I felt, I was fortunate to have a nice nurse, & she said, "Well, it kind of makes sense -- surgery is a big insult to the body, & they won't let you eat..." I don't know if it is worth the risk of asking for this, because it can make a doc crotchety, & some of them are hard enough to deal with in a good mood. But I swear, it makes a HUGE difference. I cannot figure out why it is not standard practice.4. Vitamin C does help you detox, but as already mentioned, in can be a problem with pain management. You have to pay attention, & figure out which is more important at any given moment. But as soon as I can, I always ramp up my vitamin C as high as possible, because that will help you clear out a lot of the drugs & junk & protect you from the infections you can pick up in the hospital. Obviously you don't want to do this if your pain is extreme.5. Be prepared. It can take a long time to get over general anesthesia. Even if you are in good shape, you may find it harder to spring back than you expected.6. I have no idea if this is common, but for 6 weeks after my major abdominal surgery, I could eat ANYTHING I WANTED & not gain a single ounce. I have always gained weight easily, so I found this very enjoyable. And I was HUNGRY! And then, like a switch turning off, my body declared that it no longer needed extra nutrients for repair, & I went back into my normal mode of gaining weight just looking at food. This change occurred literally overnight. If you have a tendency to gain weight, keep an eye on it -- particularly around that 6-week mark. If your body demands extra nutrients, you need them, & you can get away with it. But when the repair work is done, it is DONE!Good luck.AnneOn Jul 15, 2011, at 7:46 PM, marcyzram wrote: Help! I have to have surgery on my shoulder, ugh, on Monday and I wondered if anyone could give me advice on additional measures to take, or changes to make, to my iodine protocol to promote healing and deal with the onslaught of drugs I will be given for the surgery, for pain and the prevention of infection. I already deal with Candida, and will be given a round of antibiotics as routine. ALso, I have had such trouble recently regulating my GI system; meds will worsen it. I am on 200mgs iodine, with companions, for thyroid cancer. They told me to STOP all supplements except NTH for one week prior to this. Of course I have kept up with iodine protocol, but I have never had surgery and want it and all of it residual effects to be gone quickly. Should I keep this protocol up through the weekend? What should I add to help my body not have a setback in fighting cancer because of the toxins of anesthesia? Thank you much! Marcy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Based on what people are saying, it sounds like it's not *anesthesia* that is affected by Vit C but pain med metabolism afterward. I'm VERY SORRY to put wrong information out here. -- At 10:13 PM 7/15/2011, you wrote: >It was recently discussed on a list I'm on that ViT C will make general >anesthesia process more quickly through the body so they would need to give >you more to have it stay in the right zone. However, that should be fully >monitored by the anesthesiologist, that you would be showing signs of >needing more. I don't know what the answer is on that. ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste ~~~ Why do men fight for their servitude as stubbornly as though it were their salvation? ~~~~ --Gilles Deleuze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 good luck with your surgery. i had surgery monday, had read that vitamin c can counteract anesthetic, so stopped it 2 days before. when i got home began powerdosing c to help my system detox and promote healing. so far so good. i think our system gets rid of c really fast. you need to stop any herbs that act as a blood thinner to minimize bleeding, and that list is so long i'd just stop all, and tell your doc of any you've taken in the past two weeks.. my anesthetic had the sound of " fluour " in it, so i'm also adding more iodine this week. best wishes for your recovery. jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Marcy,My ND told me to get the homeopathic Arnica 200 and take as soon after surgery as possible, then 3x/day for a while. Also a product called First Intention by Integrative Therapeutics. Both worked really well for me. I had sinus surgery and the doc kept telling me how fast/well I was healing. There is another homeopathic that helps take the anesthesia out of your system but I forgot the name of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 actually i think you were right victoria. my pain meds are working fine with high vitamin c. actually after the first day i went back to my daily dose of my regular pain meds, with nothing else needed. i can't take codiene or hydrocodone--they merely enhance my pain perception. once that junk was out of my system, the low dose methadone i take daily for other chronic pain was sufficient. of course everyone is different, and it probably depends on the particular drug. On 7/16/2011 1:57 AM, B wrote: > > Based on what people are saying, it sounds like it's not *anesthesia* > that > is affected by Vit C but pain med metabolism afterward. I'm VERY SORRY to > put wrong information out here. > > -- > > At 10:13 PM 7/15/2011, you wrote: > >It was recently discussed on a list I'm on that ViT C will make general > >anesthesia process more quickly through the body so they would need > to give > >you more to have it stay in the right zone. However, that should be fully > >monitored by the anesthesiologist, that you would be showing signs of > >needing more. I don't know what the answer is on that. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 It is anesthesia, too. My anesthesia wore off in the middle of a C-section.AnneOn Jul 16, 2011, at 1:57 AM, B wrote: Based on what people are saying, it sounds like it's not *anesthesia* that is affected by Vit C but pain med metabolism afterward. I'm VERY SORRY to put wrong information out here. -- At 10:13 PM 7/15/2011, you wrote: >It was recently discussed on a list I'm on that ViT C will make general >anesthesia process more quickly through the body so they would need to give >you more to have it stay in the right zone. However, that should be fully >monitored by the anesthesiologist, that you would be showing signs of >needing more. I don't know what the answer is on that. ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste ~~~ Why do men fight for their servitude as stubbornly as though it were their salvation? ~~~~ --Gilles Deleuze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Anne I wish I had known some of this before my surgery! Especially the part about weight loss/gain. That sounds much like what happened to me! Heads up that many people seem to develop fatigue issues after surgery. Keep track of your thyroid function and try to stay optimized so you can avoid this junk! LOL Jaye > > > > > Help! > > I have to have surgery on my shoulder, ugh, on Monday and I wondered if anyone could give me advice on additional measures to take, or changes to make, to my iodine protocol to promote healing and deal with the onslaught of drugs I will be given for the surgery, for pain and the prevention of infection. I already deal with Candida, and will be given a round of antibiotics as routine. ALso, I have had such trouble recently regulating my GI system; meds will worsen it. > > > > I am on 200mgs iodine, with companions, for thyroid cancer. They told me to STOP all supplements except NTH for one week prior to this. Of course I have kept up with iodine protocol, but I have never had surgery and want it and all of it residual effects to be gone quickly. > > > > Should I keep this protocol up through the weekend? What should I add to help my body not have a setback in fighting cancer because of the toxins of anesthesia? > > > > Thank you much! > > > > Marcy > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Oh ok, thank you. Wow, Anne, that is horrible! -- At 12:42 PM 7/16/2011, you wrote: >It is anesthesia, too. My anesthesia wore off in the middle of a C-section. > >Anne > > >On Jul 16, 2011, at 1:57 AM, B wrote: > >> >> >>Based on what people are saying, it sounds like it's not *anesthesia* that >>is affected by Vit C but pain med metabolism afterward. I'm VERY SORRY to >>put wrong information out here. >> >>-- >> >>At 10:13 PM 7/15/2011, you wrote: >> >It was recently discussed on a list I'm on that ViT C will make general >> >anesthesia process more quickly through the body so they would need to give >> >you more to have it stay in the right zone. However, that should be fully >> >monitored by the anesthesiologist, that you would be showing signs of >> >needing more. I don't know what the answer is on that. ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste ~~~ Why do men fight for their servitude as stubbornly as though it were their salvation? ~~~~ --Gilles Deleuze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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