Guest guest Posted October 14, 1998 Report Share Posted October 14, 1998 In a message dated 10/14/98 12:17:56 PM EST, amrhodes@... writes: << LYME AB IGM BY WB: P41 AB PRESENT P39 AB PRESENT P23 AB ABSENT LYME IgM BW Interp. POSITIVE >> Based on this, you have a current infection, as IgM relates to whether or not you have a current infection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 1998 Report Share Posted October 14, 1998 Hi Anne Marie, Below is an explanation I saved about Western Blot tests from awhile ago, I think it is still accurate, if not someone on the group will let us know. I really don't pay any attention to my Lyme tests anymore, they are so unreliable, and each lab could give different results to the same blood sample. I hope this is useful: Nine reasons for false negative Lyme disease test results: The Lyme Disease Foundation (LDF), in their brochure entitled " LDF Frequently Asked Questions About Lyme Disease " lists the following nine reasons for false negative Lyme disease test results: [brackets contain my words] a. Antibodies against Bb are present, but the laboratory is unable to detect them. [borrelia burgdorferi (Bb) is the Lyme disease bacteria.] b. Antibodies against Bb may not be present in detectable levels in patients with Lyme disease. Reasons are listed below. 1. The patient is currently on, or has recently taken, antibiotics. The antibacterial effect of antibiotics can reduce the body's production of antibodies. 2. The patient is currently on or has previously taken anti-inflammatory steroidal drugs (such as those taken to treat rheumatoid arthritis) or certain anticancer drugs. These can suppress a person's immune system, thus reducing or preventing an antibody response. 3. The patient's antibodies may be bound with the bacteria with not enough free antibodies available for testing. [i think this reason is very important and prevalent. For this reason, some of the worst cases of Lyme disease test negative - too much bacteria for the immune system to handle.] 4. The patient could be immunosuppressed for a number of other reasons and the immune system is not reacting to the bacterium. 5. The bacterium has changed its makeup (antigenic shift) limiting recognition by the patient's immune system. 6. The patient's immune response has not been stimulated to produce antibodies, i.e., the blood test is taken too soon after the tick-bite (2-6 weeks). Please do not interpret this statement as implying that you should wait for a positive test to begin treatment. 7. The laboratory has raised its cutoff so high that a patient's previously positive test is now borderline or negative. 8. The patient is reacting to the Lyme bacterium, but is not producing the " right " bands to be considered positive. Lyme Disease Foundation 1 Financial Plaza Hartford, CT 06103 (860)525-2000 fax (860)525-TICK Lyme Disease National Hotline (800)886-LYME email: mailto:lymefnd@... web page: http://www.lyme.org/index2.html 41 Flagellin protein of all spirochetes; this is usually the first to appear after Bb infection and is specific for all Borrelia 58 Unknown, but may be a heat-shock Bb protein 62 66 Cross-reactive for all Borrelia, common in all bacteria 18 Unknown 22 Specific for Bb, probably really the 23/25 band 23-25 Outer surface protean C (OspC), specific for Bb 31 Outer surface protein A (OspA) specific for Bb 34 Outer surface protein B (OspB) specific for Bb 37 Specific for Bb 39 Major protein of Bb flagellin; specific for Bb 73 75 93 Unknown, probably the same protein as 83*, just measured incorrectly - >From: Anne Marie <amrhodes@...> > >I received a copy of my blood test results, and I haven't a clue on >what it means. > >It says Lyme, Western Blot, Serum, and it lists a bunch of P__ AB #'s >and it says ABSENT in regular and highlighted...at the bottom it >says POS: 5 of the following Borrelia-specific bands: 18,23,28,30,39 >(which are highlighted) and 41,45,58,66,and 93 that aren't highlighted. >Then it says NEG: No band or banding patterns which do not meet positive >criteria. > > Lyme IgG WB Interp. NEGATIVE > > LYME AB IGM BY WB: > P41 AB PRESENT > P39 AB PRESENT > P23 AB ABSENT > LYME IgM BW Interp. POSITIVE > > POS: 2 of the following bands: 23, 39 or 41 > NEG: No bands or banding patterns which do not meet positive criteria. > > SEDIMENTATION RATE-WESTEGREN: > WESTERGRAN SED RATE HI 37 (and this is checked) MM/HR 0-20 > > If someone knows what all this means, can they please let me know. > Thank you!! > Anne > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 1998 Report Share Posted October 15, 1998 Hi, As I remember reading from Dr. Burrascano's information, a positive IgM means " active infection, " whether or not it is early on or late stage. It simply means the Lyme is active at this time. Hugs, Chrissy Ü In a message dated 10/14/98 4:31:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Golfdawg@... writes: << In a message dated 10/14/98 12:17:56 PM EST, amrhodes@... writes: << LYME AB IGM BY WB: P41 AB PRESENT P39 AB PRESENT P23 AB ABSENT LYME IgM BW Interp. POSITIVE >> Based on this, you have a current infection, as IgM relates to whether or not you have a current infection. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 1998 Report Share Posted October 17, 1998 Anne, I hope I can help you understand some of this. Here goes: (a very simple explanation) You have a negative IgG Western Blot and a positive IgM Western Blot. These tests are antibody tests and are supposed to be used after an (also an antibody test). The is a screening test. You would normally do this test first and if there was a response you would follow up with a Western Blot. If the Western Blot was positive then " tah dah " you have Lyme disease. Easy right? Not really. In most diseases your body responds first with a IgM reaction then an IgG. The IgM meaning early and the IgG meaning late. Not so with Lyme. Apparently the IgM comes back and rears it's ugly head OR you may have cross reacting antibodies such as syphilis, lupus (this one is questionable) or various autoimmune diseases (with the same symptoms as Lyme?). The Western Blot is reported in bands. There are some bands that are Lyme specific. That is they have found minimal or no other diseases that cross react with these bands. 41 cross reacts apparently with everything but 39 does not. I had the exact same bands reported as you. But if you have been sick longer than a few months the IgM is not supposed to be valid. That means it is a false positive. If they look for other things such as Lupus or syphilis and rule that out then along with your history this test would probably be accurate. Lyme patients can also have a positive ANA test which is a test for Lupus. The sed rate that you had indicates a inflammation process going on in the body. It can be elevated in MANY things including Lyme and other autoimmune diseases. It is not a very useful test in determining what disease you have but is is useful in determining how much inflammation is going on in your body. Normal is 0 - 20. I have heard of it going as high as into the hundreds! Mine has never been higher than 12. Something I am hearing is very common with Lyme. Hope this helps. Kathleen From: Anne Marie <amrhodes@...> I received a copy of my blood test results, and I haven't a clue on what it means. It says Lyme, Western Blot, Serum, and it lists a bunch of P__ AB #'s and it says ABSENT in regular and highlighted...at the bottom it says POS: 5 of the following Borrelia-specific bands: 18,23,28,30,39 (which are highlighted) and 41,45,58,66,and 93 that aren't highlighted. Then it says NEG: No band or banding patterns which do not meet positive criteria. Lyme IgG WB Interp. NEGATIVE LYME AB IGM BY WB: P41 AB PRESENT P39 AB PRESENT P23 AB ABSENT LYME IgM BW Interp. POSITIVE POS: 2 of the following bands: 23, 39 or 41 NEG: No bands or banding patterns which do not meet positive criteria. SEDIMENTATION RATE-WESTEGREN: WESTERGRAN SED RATE HI 37 (and this is checked) MM/HR 0-20 If someone knows what all this means, can they please let me know. Thank you!! Anne ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 1998 Report Share Posted October 17, 1998 My new doctor told me yesterday that once you get an IgG reaction you will always have it, although it fluctuates. Since I had only an IgM he believes this is a recent infection. What is this ANA test? He ordered one yesterday along with something called a RF and a RPR - one of which is supposed to be a test for rheumatoid arthritis? HELP! (Testing new doctor's alleged Lyme-literacy) In a message dated 10/17/98 2:48:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Fyikat@... writes: <<In most diseases your body responds first with a IgM reaction then an IgG. The IgM meaning early and the IgG meaning late. Not so with Lyme. Apparently the IgM comes back and rears it's ugly head OR you may have cross reacting antibodies such as syphilis, lupus (this one is questionable) or various autoimmune diseases (with the same symptoms as Lyme?) But if you have been sick longer than a few months the IgM is not supposed to be valid. That means it is a false positive. If they look for other things such as Lupus or syphilis and rule that out then along with your history this test would probably be accurate. Lyme patients can also have a positive ANA test which is a test for Lupus.>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 1999 Report Share Posted June 7, 1999 I know that the values in the " books " are just standardized values, but that's ok. I do have some of the " normal " values for most of the test results, there are just a few I'd like even the standard results for. Such as: Neutrophils and Saturation in particular. Thanks for your responses Take Care, Dianne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 1999 Report Share Posted June 7, 1999 A word of caution - What you get from a website will be the " standard " values before any adjustment. If your blood test value is close to the normal high or low than you really need to get the normal values from the laboratory that did the test. Each lab establishes their own and continually adjust to account for equipment variations. Dpa1228@... wrote: > From: Dpa1228@... > > Hi All > > AA while back, someone mentioned a URL which had all the normal values for > blood tests... like Hemoglobin, Hematocrit, MCV, Neutrophils, etc. I just > got back results and mine are " wacky " . Could the person who sent the URL > before please resend? It might have been Geri, I'm not sure. > > Any info would be greatly appreciated. > > Take Care everyone! > Dianne A. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ONElist: the best source for group communications. > > Join a new list today! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Please support the American Liver Foundation! > > 1.) To subscribe send e-mail to -subscribeonelist > 2.) To UNsubscribe send to -unsubscribeonelist > 3.) Digest e-mail format send to -digestonelist > 4.) Normal e-mail format send to -normalonelist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 1999 Report Share Posted June 7, 1999 Dianne A. Concerning Blood test results I agree - what you get from the websites or from a book, lists the " standard values " . When I have lab work done here (CT), my labs are done at both VA Hospitals - The results show what the numbers are - along with the " reference range " that was used.by that lab. My doctors show me what the results are, and explains everything to me. If I still have questions / or just not understanding what was said concerning the lab results -- I ask or I call my doctors. I have trust in my doctors - they have to know all my Hx, Dx, Rx - combined w/labs = doing good or bad. Rocco Re: [ ] Blood Test Results > From: Barbara Renick <brenick@...> > > A word of caution - > > What you get from a website will be the " standard " values before any > adjustment. If your blood test value is close to the normal high or low than > you really need to get the normal values from the laboratory that did the > test. Each lab establishes their own and continually adjust to account for > equipment variations. > > > > Dpa1228@... wrote: > > > From: Dpa1228@... > > > > Hi All > > > > AA while back, someone mentioned a URL which had all the normal values for > > blood tests... like Hemoglobin, Hematocrit, MCV, Neutrophils, etc. I just > > got back results and mine are " wacky " . Could the person who sent the URL > > before please resend? It might have been Geri, I'm not sure. > > > > Any info would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Take Care everyone! > > Dianne A. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ONElist: the best source for group communications. > > > > Join a new list today! > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Please support the American Liver Foundation! > > > > 1.) To subscribe send e-mail to -subscribeonelist > > 2.) To UNsubscribe send to -unsubscribeonelist > > 3.) Digest e-mail format send to -digestonelist > > 4.) Normal e-mail format send to -normalonelist > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Campaign 2000 is here! > > Discuss your thoughts; get informed at ONElist. See our homepage. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Please support the American Liver Foundation! > > 1.) To subscribe send e-mail to -subscribeonelist > 2.) To UNsubscribe send to -unsubscribeonelist > 3.) Digest e-mail format send to -digestonelist > 4.) Normal e-mail format send to -normalonelist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 1999 Report Share Posted June 10, 1999 Dianne, I'm attaching a couple of files that give some lab values that might give you a guideline or at least an explanation of what the tests measure. I had a more complete file but can't seem to find the silly thing. I hope these help. Take care, Geri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 1999 Report Share Posted June 10, 1999 Thanks Geri I'll check it out Dianne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2001 Report Share Posted December 3, 2001 Hi All, Just wanted to share what I was pretty sure about - my tests look good and I feel sooo much better than when I had been hypo. My latest tests: TSH .77 (range .35-5.5) Free T4 1.31 (range .75-2.0) I see the endo on Wednesday, and am still on 25 mg. of PTU along with the naturopathic tincture which includes bugleweed (once a day) Thanks everyone for your support! Arlene in CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2001 Report Share Posted December 4, 2001 Hi Arlene, Thanks for the update and glad to hear you're using bugleweed. If you're keeping a log of your results, you might want to add some comments about how you're feeling. It's good to have an idea of what labs you feel your best at in case things change. Take care, Elaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2001 Report Share Posted December 4, 2001 Thank you, Elaine, for all your continued help on this site! Boy, thinking back over the last 7 months of my roller coaster, I am angry with my doctor (my regular GP). Way back in June, I had close to these normal figures, but she was keeping me at 300 mg. PTU even though I was still changing numbers, and she did not want me to come in for 6 months. (You guys all warned me about this, but I wasn't assertive enough!) She could have at the very least let me know what the symptoms were for being hypo, so that I could have looked out for this, and " allowed " me to go in for another blood test if I felt I needed it. Instead, I spent three months being sick, because I was on too much medication. And it took me three weeks of begging at the front desk, to be able to get the authorization for a new blood test, which said very clearly that I was, indeed, hypo. Some advice from a real newbie here, to others who might be even newer. 1) Get a list of those symptoms of both hyper and hypo thyroid and keep them in a folder. When you feel yourself going too much one way or the other, INSIST with your doctor (not the front desk) that you be able to have another blood test. For me, taking my basil temperature every morning was the real clue that I was hypo (as well as feeling TERRIBLE), also, the palms of my hands were kind of orange and really bright, which is what my hypnotherapist said they would be if I were hypo (she had been hypo) 2) Trust yourself and your feelings. And yes, Elaine is totally right - keep a log of how you are feeling at what numbers. 3) Push to see an endocrinologist from your health maintenance organization, but don't necessarily trust them either. 4) Get INFORMATION, INFORMATION, INFORMATION, from Elaine, and others on this site, and other websites which are posted here. And try to figure out what all this means by asking questions... I hope I am now on the true road to healing and recovery, though I still have to get completely off the PTU (still on 25 mg) I have been through a regular GP, endocrinologist, hypnotherapist (for relaxation, anxiety, etc.), and naturopath, and have learned that they are all just " experts " who have very different points of view, but that you are the greatest EXPERT on your own body! Thanks everyone, Arlene Re: Blood test resultsHi Arlene, Thanks for the update and glad to hear you're using bugleweed. If you're keeping a log of your results, you might want to add some comments about how you're feeling. It's good to have an idea of what labs you feel your best at in case things change. Take care, Elaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2001 Report Share Posted December 7, 2001 Woohoo - looking good! Re: Blood test results > Hi All, > Just wanted to share what I was pretty sure about - my tests look good and I > feel sooo much better than when I had been hypo. > > My latest tests: > > TSH .77 (range .35-5.5) > Free T4 1.31 (range .75-2.0) > > I see the endo on Wednesday, and am still on 25 mg. of PTU along with the > naturopathic tincture which includes bugleweed (once a day) > Thanks everyone for your support! > > Arlene in CA > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2001 Report Share Posted December 7, 2001 Hi and everyone! My endo says he thinks I can go off PTU and see what happens, since my numbers are good, I feel good, etc. BUT, he gave me an authorization for a blood test (good man!) in case I should start feeling punky again. Arlene PS: I began a front office job in a chiropractic office and it is a little stressful, since I have not done this kind of thing for 28 years. Immediately, even with all my years of meditation, exercise, etc., I go to that " stressed out " place, and my body clenches up and gets physically in knots. I came home after the second day, hopped into a hot tub, and did meditation, but I was still in knots. Does anyone have any idea how we HyperT people can unwind quickly, or better yet, learn how NOT to wind??? If this causes me lots of stress, I could go right back to being hyper, which I really don't want. Re: Blood test results >Woohoo - looking good! > > > Re: Blood test results > > >> Hi All, >> Just wanted to share what I was pretty sure about - my tests look good and >I >> feel sooo much better than when I had been hypo. >> >> My latest tests: >> >> TSH .77 (range .35-5.5) >> Free T4 1.31 (range .75-2.0) >> >> I see the endo on Wednesday, and am still on 25 mg. of PTU along with the >> naturopathic tincture which includes bugleweed (once a day) >> Thanks everyone for your support! >> >> Arlene in CA >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2001 Report Share Posted December 11, 2001 Connie check out these sites for info Hepatitis C plus Hepatitis C: The Facts: The Epidemic CDC- Hepatitis Homepage The Body's Recycling Center Diet for a Healthy Liver Liver-Friendly Herbs Taking Out Toxins Healthwell.com - Natural Search Hepatitis Central, Current Information On Hepatitis C for the medical professio Hepatitis Central, Herbs, Herbals, Natural Alternative Links, Microhydrin DrugChecker HepNet:Injection Site Map WebMD - Message Board: Hepatitis C: Support Group Be In Charge: Home REBETRON: Welcome to Rebetron.com Roche Hepatitis C WebMD - Hepatitis C WebMD - Frequently Asked Questions about Hepatitis C and Fatigue Internet Links Understanding Liver Enzymes Hepatitis C Support, Hepatitis Neighborhood, Liver Disease Support and Informat Hepatitis C Forum - English Homepage Hepatitis C Education Network (HCEN) CWS Blood Chemistry Definitions WebMD - Support: That's What Friends Are For Lab Test Interpretation WebMD - What Other Conditions Show the Same Symptoms as Fibromyalgia? WebMD - Choosing a Doctor WebMD - New Hepatitis C Combo Treatment Is a 'Cure' for Many HCV Facts Hep C Directory of Web Links HCV Products Page Hepatitis C Alternative Medicine 10 Commandments of Hepatitis C Alternative Hepatitis C Cures: Treatment Options Hepatitis Central, What Is Viral Load? Hepatitis Central, Viral Load Chart Vikki's Liver Disease and Natural Medical Index A Hepatitis Central, Patient Recommended Drs. who Treat Hepatitis C Nature's Response, Hepatitis C Cookbook Hepatitis Central, Genotypes Table of Contents Hepatitis Central, Genotypes Explained Hepatitis Central, What is Table of Contents Nature’s Response, Nutritional Counseling Nature's Response, Main Table of Contents Nature's Response, Herbs Low Prices for Vitamins, Herbs, Free Nutritional Support Hepatitis Central, What's New, the Latest Articles at Hepatitis Central Hepatitis Central, What Is Viral Hepatitis? Hepatitis Central, What the heck is an Enzyme? Hepatitis Central, Laboratory Tests, Table Of Contents Hepper Contacts Worldwide VegSource -- Best of The Net Recipes! Hepatitis C was Killing Me Until Alternative Medicine did what Conventional Med NAOMI JUDD: Dear Friends with Hepatitis C Hepatitis heppers home areas Hepatitis-Central, Hepatitis C Support Groups Hepatitis C Beneficial or Harmless Substances FIND A DOCTOR LiverSupport.com WebMD - Clinical Trials Splash Page Information about HALT-C HALT-C Contact List HEPATITIS C NEW DRUG PIPELINE Drug Companies Doing Research Into HCV ClinicalTrials.gov - Linking Patients to Medical Research: Results PEPERMINT PATTYS FAQ Liver diseases Liver function tests Autoimmune Hepatitis Diseases of the Liver Common Laboratory Tests in Liver Disease Liver-Related World Wide Web Sites The HEP Support Group Handbook Hepatitis C: The Forum: Managing Hep C: Nutrition for all Stages liverdisease.com American Liver Foundation Home Pegylated Interferon.html Hepatitis C from Veritas Medicine Consumption of alcohol in the presence of hepatitis C virus is an additive risk Itching in Liver Disease The Combo Survival Guide from A to Z # 2 Healthy Hep Recipes Lab Tests Online: Welcome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2002 Report Share Posted July 3, 2002 Yea my doctor consulted with an Endo when my estrogen level begin to soar. The endo wanted me to go off testosterone. I had to do the research about aromatization of testosterone. I never went off testosterone. blood test results First finding: 01/20/2000 - Testosterone 203.9 (L) Free testosterone - 11.0 (L) two months off of HRT: 07/10/01 - Testosterone, Serum 83 L ng/dl On Patch: 02/25/2002 - Testosterone 2.20 L ng/ml Prolactin 9.74 ng/ml On over the counter supplement Ergo Pharma Andro Spray (40mg 4- androstenidiol, transdermal 12 hour release system): 06/06/2002 - Testosterone 3.50 ng/ml Prolactin 9.23 ng/ml Estrogen, total 140 pg/ml They want to do another test with me taking absolutely nothing for 3 weeks to get a better reading. Man I really need to get to a better doctor! GW 29 y/o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2002 Report Share Posted July 6, 2002 Are you saying my estrogen is too high? What should it be for my age? The only reference I have is on the test itself. " Estrogen total 140 pg/ml, Ref. Range Estrogen, Total: 130pg/ml " This endo will not listen to me unless I can provide her the information in writing. Do you know of a study on estrogen that I can access on the web and email it to her? Thanks, GW > Yea my doctor consulted with an Endo when my estrogen level begin to soar. The endo wanted me to go off testosterone. I had to do the research about aromatization of testosterone. I never went off testosterone. > blood test results > > > First finding: > > 01/20/2000 - Testosterone 203.9 (L) Free testosterone - 11.0 (L) > > two months off of HRT: > > 07/10/01 - Testosterone, Serum 83 L ng/dl > > On Patch: > > 02/25/2002 - Testosterone 2.20 L ng/ml Prolactin 9.74 ng/ml > > On over the counter supplement Ergo Pharma Andro Spray (40mg 4- > androstenidiol, transdermal 12 hour release system): > > 06/06/2002 - Testosterone 3.50 ng/ml Prolactin 9.23 ng/ml > Estrogen, total 140 pg/ml > > They want to do another test with me taking absolutely nothing for 3 > weeks to get a better reading. Man I really need to get to a better > doctor! > > GW 29 y/o > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2002 Report Share Posted July 9, 2002 There are several references to excess aromatization of testosterone. Below are some URL that will be helpful in the matter: http://journals.endocrinology.org/erc/006/erc0060315.htm http://www.maleinfertility.org/new-anatomy.html http://www.aace.com/clin/guidelines/hypogonadism.pdf Hope this helps. Re: blood test results Are you saying my estrogen is too high? What should it be for my age? The only reference I have is on the test itself. " Estrogen total 140 pg/ml, Ref. Range Estrogen, Total: 130pg/ml " This endo will not listen to me unless I can provide her the information in writing. Do you know of a study on estrogen that I can access on the web and email it to her? Thanks, GW > Yea my doctor consulted with an Endo when my estrogen level begin to soar. The endo wanted me to go off testosterone. I had to do the research about aromatization of testosterone. I never went off testosterone. > blood test results > > > First finding: > > 01/20/2000 - Testosterone 203.9 (L) Free testosterone - 11.0 (L) > > two months off of HRT: > > 07/10/01 - Testosterone, Serum 83 L ng/dl > > On Patch: > > 02/25/2002 - Testosterone 2.20 L ng/ml Prolactin 9.74 ng/ml > > On over the counter supplement Ergo Pharma Andro Spray (40mg 4- > androstenidiol, transdermal 12 hour release system): > > 06/06/2002 - Testosterone 3.50 ng/ml Prolactin 9.23 ng/ml > Estrogen, total 140 pg/ml > > They want to do another test with me taking absolutely nothing for 3 > weeks to get a better reading. Man I really need to get to a better > doctor! > > GW 29 y/o > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2003 Report Share Posted September 11, 2003 Yes. You have typical symptoms for Graves'. It is best to get a TSI test (antibodies that are responsible for GD), as well as a TPO-Antibody test, and an ultrasound (to see if there are nodules). These tests will verify your diagnosis. At 11:05 AM 9/11/2003, you wrote: >Would these numbers account for me feeling very poorly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2003 Report Share Posted September 11, 2003 Oh, and also best to get a Free T3 (in addition to the Free T4) result. And if you are going to go on the medication, have a CBC/WBC and liver function panel done. Best wishes, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2003 Report Share Posted September 11, 2003 always ask for a copy of the labs. That way you'll have the ranges that the lab is using when you post those for the group. I have one dr who I allowed to not give me copies of my bloodwork for a year while I was in his care. Needless to say, my care was nothing like what it should have been. I ended up going hypoT which was no fun either. When I started out almost 2 yrs ago, my TSH was 0.01 with a range of .50 - 5.50. They always run it a second time if they think there was a mistake. My paperwork showed they ran it twice, just to be sure it was this low. :-) Sandy~Houston Blood test results I did get a copy of my bloodwork. TSH <.05L (noted that test results were verified by repeat analysis) Free T4 3.07H He did additional testing, but I was not given that info. Would these numbers account for me feeling very poorly. The worst thing is that I feel like I and shaking violently inside. I am spending most of the day sitting on the sofa in front of the fan because the heat is really bothering me. It is no more than 80 degrees. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 Isn't it weird how different levels affect people differently? I got my test results, TSH <.03 and Free T3 9.9, much higher than yours, yet I'm not having any symptoms except the episode of tachycardia that sent me to the hospital. (Last time I was hyperT, I had every symptom in the book - my T3 was 11-something). Do other people have experience with some people either having thyroid levels that are higher normally or being hyperT and symptomless? Nissa Re: Blood test results >Yes. You have typical symptoms for Graves'. It is best to get a TSI test >(antibodies that are responsible for GD), as well as a TPO-Antibody test, >and an ultrasound (to see if there are nodules). These tests will verify >your diagnosis. > > >At 11:05 AM 9/11/2003, you wrote: >>Would these numbers account for me feeling very poorly. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2003 Report Share Posted September 13, 2003 Hi Nissa, Symptoms and their severity do vary a great deal in hyperT. But I suspect your FT4 of 9 was actually a total T4 level, which has a reference range of around 4.0-12.5 ng/dl. The range for FT4 is lower, approximately 0.8-1.8 ng/dl. Best, Elaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2003 Report Share Posted September 14, 2003 Elaine, Thanks for reminding me that test results need reference ranges! Anyway, it was a free T3 that I had done. The normal range is 2.2 to 4.3 and my result was 9.8. Sorry to be so confusing, Nissa Re: Blood test results >Hi Nissa, >Symptoms and their severity do vary a great deal in hyperT. But I suspect >your FT4 of 9 was actually a total T4 level, which has a reference range of >around 4.0-12.5 ng/dl. The range for FT4 is lower, approximately 0.8-1.8 ng/dl. >Best, Elaine > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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