Guest guest Posted December 26, 2004 Report Share Posted December 26, 2004 Hi, Hormone levels look astonishingly great. I can't see a connection between the hormones tested and the symptoms you describe. My guess is something else besides testosterone is the problem. Bruce > > This is the first time I have posted back here in over a year. Back > when I did, I was asking for help concerning my loss of sex drive. > Since then nothing has changed. I still have no interest in women or > sex and I can't get turned on. It wasn't until a few weeks ago that > I finally decided to insist that my urologist do a blood test on > some areas that I have never had checked before. > > You guys were correct about one thing, you really have to sometimes > insist that your doctors do somethings. The response I got from my > doctor when I told him I wanted some areas checked was " what do you > want these checked for? " > > Up until now I had no idea what my free testosterone level was or > what my estrogen level was. Here are the results. Also keep in mind > that I am not on any kind of TRT program, I'm 39 years old, do not > smoke or drink alcohol, and I go to the gym a few times a week and > am not overweight and I am in good shape. > > Teststosterone Free percentage 3.0 (2.0-4.8%) > Teststosterone Free rating (I guess) 34.7 (9-30 ng/dL) > Total Teststosterone number 1157 (300-950 ng/dL) > > Estradiol 31.67 (7.63-42.59 PG/ML) > > FSH 2.3 (1.5-12.4 MIU/ML) > > LH 6.2 (1.7-8.6 MIU/ML) > > Prolactin 11.0 (4.1-18.4 NG/ML) > > Thyroid Profile > T3 Uptake 33.55 (23.0-40.0%) > T4 8.2 (4.0-12.0 ug/dL) > T7 2.8 (1.3-3.7 ug/dL) > > The Liver panel is too large to list here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2004 Report Share Posted December 26, 2004 Brad, I am no expert, but I don't see anything dramatically wrong with your blood tests. They seem pretty good overall as far as I can tell. Some people have said Wellbutrin helps their sex drive. Have you tried that? Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2004 Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 > > Brad, > > I am no expert, but I don't see anything dramatically wrong with your > blood tests. They seem pretty good overall as far as I can tell. > > Some people have said Wellbutrin helps their sex drive. Have you > tried that? > > Mark No I have not tried Wellbutrin but I'm thinking about starting on Concerta. It looks to me like I have plenty of fuel (testosterone) I just need the spark to start the fire. Others have also told me that my Estradiol level is too high which could be causing the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2004 Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 Brad, IMO Estradiol 31.67 (7.63-42.59 PG/ML) is not too high, and not high enough to explain your symptoms. Are there other meds/conditions/stresses that could account for your symptoms? Concerta suggests some sort of fatigue. (Hope it works) Bruce > > > > Brad, > > > > I am no expert, but I don't see anything dramatically wrong with > your > > blood tests. They seem pretty good overall as far as I can tell. > > > > Some people have said Wellbutrin helps their sex drive. Have you > > tried that? > > > > Mark > > No I have not tried Wellbutrin but I'm thinking about starting on > Concerta. It looks to me like I have plenty of fuel (testosterone) I > just need the spark to start the fire. > > Others have also told me that my Estradiol level is too high which > could be causing the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2004 Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 No I got sick suddenly two years ago and have not been the same since. My sex drive dissapeared in the blink of an eye. My stress level has not changed in several years. I quit taking Xanax and Ambien over a year ago. I was thinking about Concerta because I have difficulty concentrating and thinking clearly. I thought that might be a reason why I can't get turned on. If my mind is so clouded then I can't focus on who I'm with. Also I don't fantisize or think about women or sex anymore like I constantly used to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2004 Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 Hypogonadism is one thing that might cause your symptoms, but with your test results I think you can cross that off the list. There are a lot of things that cause those symptoms, many starting after a viral infection. Difficulty concentrating could be part of it. A trial of Concerta sounds like a reasonable next step. Bruce > > No I got sick suddenly two years ago and have not been the same > since. My sex drive dissapeared in the blink of an eye. My stress > level has not changed in several years. I quit taking Xanax and > Ambien over a year ago. I was thinking about Concerta because I have > difficulty concentrating and thinking clearly. I thought that might > be a reason why I can't get turned on. If my mind is so clouded then > I can't focus on who I'm with. Also I don't fantisize or think about > women or sex anymore like I constantly used to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2004 Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 I have always thought the concentration problem was a big part of it. I remember back before I got sick I used to have sexual dreams 4 or 5 times a week. Now I can't remember the last sexual dream I had. My dreams in general are very fractional. Only small parts of dreams, not like the long flowing dreams that I always used to have. I tried Strattera on 3 seperate occasions and had the same reaction all three times. My testicles would shrink up very tight to my body and the lower part of my abdomen around the base of my penis would become swollen. Supposedly Concerta does not have any side effects. > > > > No I got sick suddenly two years ago and have not been the same > > since. My sex drive dissapeared in the blink of an eye. My stress > > level has not changed in several years. I quit taking Xanax and > > Ambien over a year ago. I was thinking about Concerta because I have > > difficulty concentrating and thinking clearly. I thought that might > > be a reason why I can't get turned on. If my mind is so clouded then > > I can't focus on who I'm with. Also I don't fantisize or think about > > women or sex anymore like I constantly used to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2004 Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 If he is sensitive, maybe a trial of zinc supplement & cruciferous vegetables would help. Or DIM. > I did see his E2 is in the high normal range and if he is sensitive to it it can cause this. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2004 Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 I take one zinc tablet once a day and started the DIM a week ago. > > I did see his E2 is in the high normal range and if he is sensitive to it it can > cause this. > -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 Brad, Concentration. When I was young I only had to keep track of the Who. In later years I developed problems remembering the What, Why and How parts. If it matters, Wellbutrin makes dreams vivid and continuous, but not necessarily sexual. You were on Ambien for a while. Did you get the sleep part taken care of? Sleep deprivation is another thing that can mess everything up. Fractured dreams could be a sign of poor-quality sleep. Bruce > > I have always thought the concentration problem was a big part of > it. I remember back before I got sick I used to have sexual dreams 4 > or 5 times a week. Now I can't remember the last sexual dream I had. > My dreams in general are very fractional. Only small parts of > dreams, not like the long flowing dreams that I always used to have. > > I tried Strattera on 3 seperate occasions and had the same reaction > all three times. My testicles would shrink up very tight to my body > and the lower part of my abdomen around the base of my penis would > become swollen. Supposedly Concerta does not have any side effects. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 It took about a week to finally get to sleeping better after I got off the Ambien. For about the last year I've been taking Melatonin right before bedtime. Don't know if it helps or not. Sometimes I wake up at about 4 or 5 am with a slight headache. > > > > I have always thought the concentration problem was a big part of > > it. I remember back before I got sick I used to have sexual dreams 4 > > or 5 times a week. Now I can't remember the last sexual dream I had. > > My dreams in general are very fractional. Only small parts of > > dreams, not like the long flowing dreams that I always used to have. > > > > I tried Strattera on 3 seperate occasions and had the same reaction > > all three times. My testicles would shrink up very tight to my body > > and the lower part of my abdomen around the base of my penis would > > become swollen. Supposedly Concerta does not have any side effects. > -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 This is what he is doing to see if he has an inprovement. Phil Bruce <bruceharvey@...> wrote: If he is sensitive, maybe a trial of zinc supplement & cruciferous vegetables would help. Or DIM. > I did see his E2 is in the high normal range and if he is sensitive to it it can cause this. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2005 Report Share Posted May 4, 2005 sounds great!!!!! daleDUG Nunya-Bidness <dug853@...> wrote: I finally got my test results back and (most) everything is looking good, cholesterol is just ONE point 'low' on the HDL,....(not a problem) LDL is very good-! Bilrubin is well within the low normal range. Alkaline Phosphatase is normal. My AST is within normal range,.my ALT is still slightly elevated at around 53 out of 0-40 being normal,... so, not 'too' bad,.....still has a way to go, but, not too shabby for having Hep C-! So, all-in-all, I'm pretty happy with these results,.... just keep doing what I'm doing with the Acupuncture and herbs, staying away from the booze etc.... and things are looking UP-! "Heroism on command, senseless violence, and all the loathsome nonsense that goes by the name of patriotism - how passionately I hate them!" Einstein, Albert "Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind." Einstein, Albert "A man's country is not a certain area of land, of mountains, rivers, and woods, but it is a principle and patriotism is loyalty to that principle." Curtis, "Each man must for himself alone decide what is right and what is wrong, which course is patriotic and which isn't. You cannot shirk this and be a man. To decide against your conviction is to be an unqualified and inexcusable traitor, both to yourself and to your country, let men label you as they may." Twain, Mark Mobile Take with you! Check email on your mobile phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2005 Report Share Posted May 5, 2005 That's GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111 Sharon --- DUG Nunya-Bidness <dug853@...> wrote: > I finally got my test results back and (most) > everything is looking good, cholesterol is just ONE > point 'low' on the HDL,....(not a problem) LDL is > very good-! > > Bilrubin is well within the low normal range. > > Alkaline Phosphatase is normal. > > My AST is within normal range,.my ALT is still > slightly elevated at around 53 out of 0-40 being > normal,... so, not 'too' bad,.....still has a way to > go, but, not too shabby for having Hep C-! > > So, all-in-all, I'm pretty happy with these > results,.... just keep doing what I'm doing with the > Acupuncture and herbs, staying away from the booze > etc.... and things are looking UP-! > > > > " Heroism on command, senseless violence, and all the > loathsome nonsense that goes by the name of > patriotism - how passionately I hate them! " > Einstein, Albert > > > " Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the > measles of mankind. " Einstein, Albert > > " A man's country is not a certain area of land, of > mountains, rivers, and woods, but it is a principle > and patriotism is loyalty to that principle. " > Curtis, > > > " Each man must for himself alone decide what is > right and what is wrong, which course is patriotic > and which isn't. > > You cannot shirk this and be a man. > > To decide against your conviction is to be an > unqualified and inexcusable traitor, both to > yourself and to your country, let men label you as > they may. " Twain, Mark Discover Use to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! http://discover./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 It seems as though the nurse/s were correct (once-again) that my Diabetes is 'caused/exacerbated' by the fact that I have Chronic Hepatitis C.... hopefully it means that the Hepatitis C is being beaten back to a better 'balance' with my body, and not causing as much/many problems with the liver as it had been...... and therefore the reason that my (blood-glucose) A1C is at 5.0..... (within normal-range for a non-diabetic) I've faxed 2 of my doctors with my concerns, and 'should' get some kind of an answer within a couple-few days,.... they're usually pretty good about that sort of thing. I've also asked them if there are any 'other' blood-tests that could be used to verify that the 5.0 A1C was not a 'spurious' result,.... I know that there ARE, (fructosamine test for one), but, it just comes-off better most of the time to phrase things as a question, rather than possibly being perceived as " telling them how to be a doctor " etc..... I find that I 'usually' get better results that way with " professionals " . LOL It also gives me a chance to evaluate my doctor/s proficiency in 'keeping-up-with' possible problems involved with a 'dual- diagnosis' of Diabetes and Hep C. Anyway, we'll see. > > I finally got my test results back and (most) > > everything is looking good, cholesterol is just ONE > > point 'low' on the HDL,....(not a problem) LDL is > > very good-! > > > > Bilrubin is well within the low normal range. > > > > Alkaline Phosphatase is normal. > > > > My AST is within normal range,.my ALT is still > > slightly elevated at around 53 out of 0-40 being > > normal,... so, not 'too' bad,.....still has a way to > > go, but, not too shabby for having Hep C-! > > > > So, all-in-all, I'm pretty happy with these > > results,.... just keep doing what I'm doing with the > > Acupuncture and herbs, staying away from the booze > > etc.... and things are looking UP-! > > > > > > > > " Heroism on command, senseless violence, and all the > > loathsome nonsense that goes by the name of > > patriotism - how passionately I hate them! " > > Einstein, Albert > > > > > > " Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the > > measles of mankind. " Einstein, Albert > > > > " A man's country is not a certain area of land, of > > mountains, rivers, and woods, but it is a principle > > and patriotism is loyalty to that principle. " > > Curtis, > > > > > > " Each man must for himself alone decide what is > > right and what is wrong, which course is patriotic > > and which isn't. > > > > You cannot shirk this and be a man. > > > > To decide against your conviction is to be an > > unqualified and inexcusable traitor, both to > > yourself and to your country, let men label you as > > they may. " Twain, Mark > > > > Discover > Use to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! > http://discover./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 We were told that my husbands diabetes and chronic kidney failure are both results from his treatment. But, at least, 2 years later, he is still testing negative for Hepc. Cyndi Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 Yes, apparently ANY kind of liver-damage can cause 'diabetes-like' symptoms. And, from what I understand, (please correct me) the Interferon-style treatment/s 'CAN-be' 'hard' on the organs as well-? Everyone reacts a bit differently, that's for sure. At least the Hep C is still negative-! > We were told that my husbands diabetes and chronic kidney failure are both results from his treatment. But, at least, 2 years later, he is still testing negative for Hepc. > > > Cyndi > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 Well, I got a call from 'one' of my doctors' and he said that it 'appears'-that my liver and pancreas are processing glucose normally at this time, that they'll do another A1C in 4-6 months to see what's up, to keep doing what I'm doing, and to call if I start experiencing hypos. Sounds good to ME-! Now to just keep myself in-CHECK and NOT go 'hog-wild'-!-! I'll do it, I'd been getting-used-to feeling better, so, I'm NOT going to mess-up with that-!-! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2005 Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 I noticed that while on combo Tx, my A1C was 6.1%, but my daily glucose levels were high. Maybe this is a result of the Tx's affect on my blood counts? I also have low platelet count (~50k) and had this before starting Tx. I take my last shot on Friday and go in to see my RN on Tuesday. Wish me luck! In case things don't work out, I started looking at maintenance therapy consisting of PEG-Intron mono-therapy. My HMO (Kaiser) will not cover this so I started looking at clinical trials and it turns out that one is being done at the hospital where I see my RN and GE. Finally something good! Hopefully they will let me in and am in the group that actually get the treatment. If not, I will have to " lean " on them a little (or a lot!) I am cirrhotic, with 3 esophogeal varices that had not bled and were tied off. Other than that, I am compensated. Good energy to all of you ) > Well, I got a call from 'one' of my doctors' and he said that > it 'appears'-that my liver and pancreas are processing glucose normally > at this time, that they'll do another A1C in 4-6 months to see what's > up, to keep doing what I'm doing, and to call if I start experiencing > hypos. > > Sounds good to ME-! > > Now to just keep myself in-CHECK and NOT go 'hog-wild'-!-! > > I'll do it, I'd been getting-used-to feeling better, so, I'm NOT going > to mess-up with that-!-! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 Good luck on Your next tests-! I don't do daily testing for glucose-levels, I 'SHOULD', but I don't... Maybe I'll start again, since my A1C was 5.0,... I 'have' been sweating more lately, for no apparent reason, not 'shaking' that I've noticed, but, sweating IS/can-be one of the symptome of hypos. I'll call my insurance company and doctor tomorrow to see abot a new meter and which strips my plan/s will cover... Thanks for the reply. > > Well, I got a call from 'one' of my doctors' and he said that > > it 'appears'-that my liver and pancreas are processing glucose > normally > > at this time, that they'll do another A1C in 4-6 months to see > what's > > up, to keep doing what I'm doing, and to call if I start > experiencing > > hypos. > > > > Sounds good to ME-! > > > > Now to just keep myself in-CHECK and NOT go 'hog-wild'-!-! > > > > I'll do it, I'd been getting-used-to feeling better, so, I'm NOT > going > > to mess-up with that-!-! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 I wish my A1c was 5.0. As a diabetic, the doc wants mine 6.5 or below. Your A1c is perfect. Cyndi Discover Use to plan a weekend, have fun online more. Check it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 Sounds good… keep up the good work. –dz- [ ] Re: Blood Test Results Well, I got a call from 'one' of my doctors' and he said that it 'appears'-that my liver and pancreas are processing glucose normally at this time, that they'll do another A1C in 4-6 months to see what's up, to keep doing what I'm doing, and to call if I start experiencing hypos. Sounds good to ME-! Now to just keep myself in-CHECK and NOT go 'hog-wild'-!-! I'll do it, I'd been getting-used-to feeling better, so, I'm NOT going to mess-up with that-!-! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 We'll see, I just hope that I don't start going HYPO for some reason-! Hypos are NO fun-! LOL-? > I wish my A1c was 5.0. As a diabetic, the doc wants mine 6.5 or below. Your A1c is perfect. > > > Cyndi > > > > > --------------------------------- > Discover > Use to plan a weekend, have fun online & more. Check it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 How well I know, I shoot 4xs a day. Definitely not fun.Lol Cyndi Mobile Take with you! Check email on your mobile phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2005 Report Share Posted August 24, 2005 His quantitative immunoglobulin levels are normal, so he does not have a primary immune deficiency, at least of the kind that I do. On Aug 24, 2005, at 12:26 AM, Primer wrote: > ANyone know what any of these mean? Austin is GF if it makes a > difference. > Tissue Transglutaminasl > Ab, IgG <3 > Ab, IgA <3 Here is an abstract about tissue transglutaminase autoantibodies. Unfortunately, this test is apparently only useful in UNTREATED celiac disease. Your results would rule out celiac IF YOUR CHILD WERE EATING GLUTEN, but he isn't. So I'm not sure what it means. Hope this helps...from what I am reading it definitely does not rule out celiac disease, please talk to your doctor about what it means when he is already on a GF doctor. The doctor may not believe he really isn't eating gluten, but he doesn't know determined mothers. If he tries to tell you this result rules out celiac, show him the second abstract below which says that 71% of celiac patients who were on a GF diet, tested negative for this autoantibody enzyme... Peace, Kathy E. > Tissue transglutaminase autoantibody enzyme-linked immunosorbent > assay in detecting celiac disease. > > Sulkanen S, Halttunen T, Laurila K, Kolho KL, Korponay-Szabo IR, > Sarnesto A, Savilahti E, Collin P, Maki M. > > Institute of Medical Technology, University of Tampere, Tampere, > Finland. > > BACKGROUND & AIMS: Tissue transglutaminase has been reported to be > the target for endomysial antibodies in celiac disease. We sought > to establish whether immunoglobulin (Ig) A class tissue > transglutaminase autoantibodies can be considered specific for > celiac disease. METHODS: Serum samples from 136 patients with > untreated celiac disease (diagnosed according to the criteria of > the European Society for Pediatric Gastroenterology, Hepatology and > Nutrition) and 207 disease controls were studied. Enzyme-linked > immunosorbent assay (ELISA) and Western blots were performed using > calcium-treated and untreated tissue transglutaminase as antigen. > Reticulin, endomysial, and mouse monoclonal tissue transglutaminase > antibodies were studied by an indirect immunofluorescence method > and gliadin antibodies with ELISA. RESULTS: The calcium-activated > tissue transglutaminase autoantibody ELISA was highly sensitive > (129 of 136) and specific (194 of 207) in detecting celiac disease. > The new autoantibody ELISA test correlated well with the endomysial > antibody test. Tissue transglutaminase autoantibody ELISA showed a > clearly better predictive potential than the IgA class gliadin > antibody ELISA. Immunoblots and ELISA blocking studies showed that > calcium is needed for the specific antigen-antibody reaction to > occur. Double immunofluorescence staining in human umbilical cord > with sera from patients with celiac disease and with monoclonal > tissue transglutaminase antibodies showed complete overlap. > CONCLUSIONS: Calcium-activated tissue transglutaminase autoantibody > ELISA is highly accurate in detecting untreated celiac disease. > Tissue transglutaminase seems to be the target self-antigen for > endomysial antibodies. > > Z-anti-endomysial AB IGA > tTG) Ab IgA : <3 > > Immunoglobulons Qantitative > IgG : 902 > IgA : 134 > IgM : 83 > > Rubeola AB (IGG) 3.33 (Greater then or equal to 1.10 = Positive) > > Thanks in Advance. > > > in Oceanside, CA > Aust N Z J Med. 1999 Apr;29(2):239-42. > Related Articles, Links > > Anti-transglutaminase antibodies and coeliac disease. > > A, Paspaliaris W, Elliott PR, d'Apice A. > > Department of Gastroenterology, St 's Hospital, Melbourne, Vic. > > BACKGROUND: Anti-endomysial antibodies have high specificity for > coeliac disease but measurements are limited by the requirement for > monkey oesophagus, a substrate that is expensive, and of limited > availability and ethical acceptance. Tissue transglutaminase has > recently been identified as the endomysial autoantigen in coeliac > disease. AIMS: To examine the validity of serum tissue > transglutaminase antibody levels in patients with coeliac disease > and to assess their sensitivity and specificity against standard > serological tests. METHODS: Serum IgA anti-tissue transglutaminase > antibody titres (measured by ELISA), IgA anti-gliadin antibody > titres (measured by a commercial ELISA) and anti-endomysial > antibody titres (measured by indirect immunofluorescence) were > determined in 46 untreated and 14 treated patients biopsy-proven > coeliac disease and 145 disease and healthy controls. RESULTS: All > patients with untreated coeliac disease were positive for anti- > endomysial and anti-tissue transglutaminase antibodies (sensitivity > 100%). Seventy-one per cent of treated coeliac patients were anti- > tissue transglutaminase antibody negative. Five of 145 disease and > healthy controls had low titres of anti-tissue transglutaminase > antibody (specificity 97%); no controls were anti-endomysial > antibody positive. CONCLUSIONS: Our results demonstrated the > sensitivity and specificity of IgA anti-tissue transglutaminase > antibodies to correlate highly with anti-endomysial antibodies in > the diagnosis of coeliac disease. The ELISA for IgA anti-tissue > transglutaminase antibodies is quantitative and easy to perform and > is a valid alternative to indirect immunofluorescence for anti- > endomysial antibodies in screening for suspected coeliac disease. > > ~Fighting for one child, in hopes it helps another child.~ > Primer > ~Doing the best I can with the hand I was dealt~ > > ~Well-behaved women seldom make history~ Laurel Thatcher Ulrich > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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