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Lovette, it was HONORs classes. He's not stupid. He's just a teenager. Don't

be so hard on him and on yourself! I've raised 4 sons. You haven't been

through the worst of it yet, trust me!!!

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In a message dated 9/18/99 2:28:33 AM, smott@... writes:

<<Turns out he

decided at least a month ago that he was well and didn't have lyme

anymore so he stopped taking his Biaxin. Of course, I've asked him

every single day if he took his medicine - he just simply lied to me. >>

Hi Lovette

The teen years are tough as it is, and Lyme makes it harder. Maybe now he'll

see how important the meds are. You can't do it all for him. There are times

that he's going to fall, and he'll have to get up and hopefully learn from the

experience. You might want to have him meet with the doctor, without you

there. Kids that age often listen to others more than they do their parents.

I don't know any parent of a teen that thinks they can parent!

Hang in there!

Jane

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Well, I'm terribly depressed again. We got a call from his teacher

today saying he's failing Honors Algebra and English. Turns out he

decided at least a month ago that he was well and didn't have lyme

anymore so he stopped taking his Biaxin. Of course, I've asked him

every single day if he took his medicine - he just simply lied to me.

He's 14 and I just don't think I can parent anymore. Being on a daily

IV drip is bad enough, but having a STUPID teenager on top of it is just

too much!

Lovette

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lisa86@... wrote:

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> From: lisa86@...

>

> Lovette, it was HONORs classes. He's not stupid. He's just a teenager. Don't

> be so hard on him and on yourself! I've raised 4 sons. You haven't been

> through the worst of it yet, trust me!!!

>

Great lisa - now I'm REALLY depressed!

Lovette

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  • 1 year later...

While is is hard to find, you need to dig around and find her a peer group of

others who she is interested in-those who look normal but have significant

learning disabilities. I know exactly what you mean-my 21 year old son

prefers people who look more typical (although he is very open to others with

DS and loves attending the NDSC convention where he meets individuals with

varying skills including those more skilled than him which helps him when he

develops a " pecking order " ) Jon is lucky, he has found a wonderful peer

group which has included many oppportunities for dating. However, after

several expereincs with what he has found to be overbearing woman, he has

decided to take a break from dating for awhile.

I wouls also suggest you find some individuals with DS who functionmuch

higher than your daughter as a way of educating her about differences even

among those with the samw disability. It may help to humble her.

Jo Ann

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It's not minor to me, Pat. This is a real issue for us parents with adult

children. I will retell the story of my (27, DS) and (32,

CP/MR) for the benefit of those relatively new to the list, in the hope that

it will help. Those of you who have heard it already can just delete.

If we are facing reality, then we must face the fact that our children are

sexual beings. They will have a sex life and there's nothing we can do about

it. What sort of sex life may be up to us, however.

My daughter went to work in sheltered workshop about eight or nine

years ago. There she met and it was love at first sight. They began

dating, with me doing the driving. This meant that and I began

including in everything we did.

Throughout the first year of this, I learned, little by little, that the

foster home in which lived was an abusive one. You name the abuse, and

was enduring it ... financial, physical, psychological, mental and

sexual. His mother had died some years previous and his father had deserted

him when he was a child, so his options were limited.

Toward the middle of the second year of knowing , he showed up on our

doorstep, suitcase in hand and we took him in. I called adult protective

services, we had a conference, and it was learned that no one had bothered

to go to court and make themselves guardian of . He was a free agent

and could live where he wished. and I wanted him to live with us.

They cannot marry because they will lose their benefits. , who

receives Social Security survivors benefits (her father died when she was 2

1/2-months old) would lose hers simply by getting married. Because she

receives money from a trust and inheritance established by her paternal

grandmother, she is not eligible for SSI. would lose his SSI because

his wife has money. Yet the money is not enough for one person to live on,

much less two.

So, they're living in sin. I refer to as my foster son. Over the past

seven years, he has become like a son to me. He and understand that

they are never to tell anyone that they are married because of Texas' very

liberal common law statutes and Social Security's penchant for cutting

people off at the drop of a hat.

Both and have a sex life. I hear them laughing a lot.

granny

---

God loves everyone, but probably prefers " fruits

of the spirit " over " religious nuts " .

http://home.earthlink.net/~bspyle

Teenager

> Hi,

> My name is Pat and I have a 28 year old daughter who will always be 16.

> I am sure that someone out there knows exactly what I am talking about.

She

> wants a man in her life, but wants what she calls a " normal person. "

> Specifically a college guy that is a hunk. We have had a lot of heart to

> heart talks about Down Syndrome and what that means. Does anyone have any

> suggestions re: this problem?

> It breaks my heart! Sometimes she cries and cries about things like

> this, I have talked to counselers but they seem to get no where. When she

> was in school she went to four proms with a boy that was LD but since then

> he has gotten married.

> I consider myself VERY lucky to have such a beautiful child. She

> extremely healthy and my heart goes out to those who are not. To some this

> might seem minor and I know I can't fix everything but I should would

> appreciate help from someone who has been able to deal with this.

> Thanks....

>

>

>

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  • 9 years later...

I have ReA (RA) my teen daughter has chronic tenoditis that the Drs dont seem to

be able to help with. I am afraid she may have RA or somethinglike I have (myco

plasma) anyway, at this point my daughter is willing to have testunbg done. Our

local DRs dont know anything about jmycoplasma.. Im asking this group for which

tests should i go in and TELL the Drs to run onh her? I do plan to test for

thyroid, What else? Kathy

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Kathy,

I believe that you should try another doctor.

Look at the file " started.txt " under the section " Files " of this group (left

menu). At the end of the file you will find a list of doctors that are familiar

with antibiotic therapy.

The link below also gives you more details on what tests should be done. It has

a list of labs that will do it, including the already mentioned, IgeneX.

http://www.thepowerhour.com/news/mycoplasma_testing.htm

-- Renato

>

> I have ReA (RA) my teen daughter has chronic tenoditis that the Drs dont seem

to be able to help with. I am afraid she may have RA or somethinglike I have

(myco plasma) anyway, at this point my daughter is willing to have testunbg

done. Our local DRs dont know anything about jmycoplasma.. Im asking this group

for which tests should i go in and TELL the Drs to run onh her? I do plan to

test for thyroid, What else? Kathy

>

>

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Hi,

Many years ago I had a frozen shoulder. I googled " frozen shoulder " and the

article said to take glucosamine. Further down in the article it mentioned that

bursitis and tendonitis could be caused or aggravated by low Vitamin B12. Vit

B12 shots were recommended weekly for 4 weeks and then sublingual after that. I

do not recall for how long.

Since I read the article my computer crashed and I lost all of my saved

favorites and have not been able to find the same article since.

Just thought I would throw out this information in case it might be of some help

to someone.

carol_DM

remission/control DM and MCTD with CREST

10 years now

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Kathy,

I have the same trouble with my son. He was diagnosed with scleroderma, jra

and chronic lyme disease in 2008 at the age of 13. He was really good about

taking supplements then, now, it is wearing thin. I have a question for the

group though, he started AP in May of 2008 and his skin is much softer now

and there is hair growing on his chest where one of his patches was.

However, I found 2 new patches behind his knee and now I am so scared that

AP is really not working. I thought that it would take time to recover but I

did not think I would find any new ones - anyone have this happen?

Sue

From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On Behalf

Of Kathy Dillon

Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:39 AM

rheumatic

Subject: rheumatic Re:teenager

thank you, that could help as she refuses to take any vitamins and I plan to

get blood work done, which im sure will show she is anemic as well. kathy

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Sue,

I have dermatomyositis caused by chronic lyme. I now have nearly normal labs

after being on AP since 2007. (My personal high was 16,800 and normal is 200

for one of my blood tests.) I have found that minocycline and even the

addition of Zithromax were not enough; Fluconazole was extremely important

to my recovery, and so was metronidazole. Fluconazole has now been shown to

disrupt the life cycle of the Lyme pathogen, and so has metronidazole. I

continued to have new symptoms despite all the progress I had made on the

AP, until I took those drugs. I still do courses of them; they are

invaluable in keeping me well.

Best,

On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Mazik <smazik@...>wrote:

>

>

> Kathy,

>

> I have the same trouble with my son. He was diagnosed with scleroderma, jra

> and chronic lyme disease in 2008 at the age of 13. He was really good about

> taking supplements then, now, it is wearing thin. I have a question for the

> group though, he started AP in May of 2008 and his skin is much softer now

> and there is hair growing on his chest where one of his patches was.

> However, I found 2 new patches behind his knee and now I am so scared that

> AP is really not working. I thought that it would take time to recover but

> I

> did not think I would find any new ones - anyone have this happen?

>

> Sue

>

>

> From: rheumatic <rheumatic%40> [mailto:

> rheumatic <rheumatic%40>] On Behalf

> Of Kathy Dillon

> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:39 AM

> rheumatic <rheumatic%40>

> Subject: rheumatic Re:teenager

>

>

> thank you, that could help as she refuses to take any vitamins and I plan

> to

> get blood work done, which im sure will show she is anemic as well. kathy

>

>

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has been on metronidazole for about 3 months now -- he see Dr. C in

Missouri and we go back again in 2 weeks. His next protocol to try will be

clindy, plaquenil and biaxin. He also had a week of clindy IV's with Dr. S

in Iowa in June. It just seems like he is not making as great a progress as

he should be considering his age. I read so much and so many people see

great results within 6 months -- I am just getting scared and frustrated.

Thank you so much for replying to me!

rheumatic Re:teenager

>

>

> thank you, that could help as she refuses to take any vitamins and I plan

> to

> get blood work done, which im sure will show she is anemic as well. kathy

>

>

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Sorry to hear is not doing as well as he should with the IV's in the summer

at Dr.S. I have been following his progress on the RBF. I have been on Biaxin

since I started the AP. I added minoxin later on and finally doing better. I

used some Cipro for 6 weeks and done some Clindy (pills) for dental work. Even

my hands are doing better. Dr. K put me on Pepsid AD and it seems to help with

my hands, seems to be some internal problem.

Hope you find some help for .

Eva

>

>

> Kathy,

>

> I have the same trouble with my son. He was diagnosed with scleroderma,

jra

> and chronic lyme disease in 2008 at the age of 13. He was really good

about

> taking supplements then, now, it is wearing thin. I have a question for

the

> group though, he started AP in May of 2008 and his skin is much softer now

> and there is hair growing on his chest where one of his patches was.

> However, I found 2 new patches behind his knee and now I am so scared that

> AP is really not working. I thought that it would take time to recover but

> I

> did not think I would find any new ones - anyone have this happen?

>

> Sue

>

>

> From: rheumatic <rheumatic%40> [mailto:

> rheumatic <rheumatic%40>] On Behalf

> Of Kathy Dillon

> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:39 AM

> rheumatic <rheumatic%40>

> Subject: rheumatic Re:teenager

>

>

> thank you, that could help as she refuses to take any vitamins and I plan

> to

> get blood work done, which im sure will show she is anemic as well. kathy

>

>

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Thanks Eva – are you able to still post on RBF? I was not sure as I have

posted a couple and did not hear back -- Sue

From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On Behalf Of

Eva Holloway

Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 11:06 PM

rheumatic

Subject: RE: rheumatic Re:teenager

Sorry to hear is not doing as well as he should with the IV's in the summer

at Dr.S. I have been following his progress on the RBF. I have been on Biaxin

since I started the AP. I added minoxin later on and finally doing better. I

used some Cipro for 6 weeks and done some Clindy (pills) for dental work. Even

my hands are doing better. Dr. K put me on Pepsid AD and it seems to help with

my hands, seems to be some internal problem.

Hope you find some help for .

Eva

>

>

> Kathy,

>

> I have the same trouble with my son. He was diagnosed with scleroderma,

jra

> and chronic lyme disease in 2008 at the age of 13. He was really good

about

> taking supplements then, now, it is wearing thin. I have a question for

the

> group though, he started AP in May of 2008 and his skin is much softer now

> and there is hair growing on his chest where one of his patches was.

> However, I found 2 new patches behind his knee and now I am so scared that

> AP is really not working. I thought that it would take time to recover but

> I

> did not think I would find any new ones - anyone have this happen?

>

> Sue

>

>

> From: rheumatic <mailto:rheumatic%40>

<rheumatic%40> [mailto:

> rheumatic <mailto:rheumatic%40>

<rheumatic%40>] On Behalf

> Of Kathy Dillon

> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:39 AM

> rheumatic <mailto:rheumatic%40>

<rheumatic%40>

> Subject: rheumatic Re:teenager

>

>

> thank you, that could help as she refuses to take any vitamins and I plan

> to

> get blood work done, which im sure will show she is anemic as well. kathy

>

>

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Sue

Yes, lots of people can not get on RBF, they working on a new system, Lynnie

from Australia is about the only volunteer still able to get on. I write to Maz

on the regular e-mail if I have a question, There are not that many people able

to get on.Let me know if you want Maz e-mai address and I send it to you on you

personal e-mail.

I am doing lots better, my hip has healed well and I am almost upright now but

still leaning to the right side because of the scoliosis of the lower back. No

help for that.

Eva

>

>

> Kathy,

>

> I have the same trouble with my son. He was diagnosed with scleroderma,

jra

> and chronic lyme disease in 2008 at the age of 13. He was really good

about

> taking supplements then, now, it is wearing thin. I have a question for

the

> group though, he started AP in May of 2008 and his skin is much softer now

> and there is hair growing on his chest where one of his patches was.

> However, I found 2 new patches behind his knee and now I am so scared that

> AP is really not working. I thought that it would take time to recover but

> I

> did not think I would find any new ones - anyone have this happen?

>

> Sue

>

>

> From: rheumatic <mailto:rheumatic%40>

<rheumatic%40> [mailto:

> rheumatic <mailto:rheumatic%40>

<rheumatic%40>] On Behalf

> Of Kathy Dillon

> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:39 AM

> rheumatic <mailto:rheumatic%40>

<rheumatic%40>

> Subject: rheumatic Re:teenager

>

>

> thank you, that could help as she refuses to take any vitamins and I plan

> to

> get blood work done, which im sure will show she is anemic as well. kathy

>

>

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I remember when you posted about your hip and I am so happy that it has healed

well. I really would like to know if other people with scleroderma/mctd

experience new patches after they had been on AP for over a year. Thank goodness

we finally have ryan’s pediatrician back and he is going to follow what Dr. S.

wants and order clindy IV’s every 2 weeks because I do believe the IV’s for

5 days helped ’s hands – do you think the IV’s could have brought out

the new patches as some sort of herx?

From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On Behalf Of

Eva Holloway

Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 8:46 AM

rheumatic

Subject: RE: rheumatic Re:teenager

Sue

Yes, lots of people can not get on RBF, they working on a new system, Lynnie

from Australia is about the only volunteer still able to get on. I write to Maz

on the regular e-mail if I have a question, There are not that many people able

to get on.Let me know if you want Maz e-mai address and I send it to you on you

personal e-mail.

I am doing lots better, my hip has healed well and I am almost upright now but

still leaning to the right side because of the scoliosis of the lower back. No

help for that.

Eva

>

>

> Kathy,

>

> I have the same trouble with my son. He was diagnosed with scleroderma,

jra

> and chronic lyme disease in 2008 at the age of 13. He was really good

about

> taking supplements then, now, it is wearing thin. I have a question for

the

> group though, he started AP in May of 2008 and his skin is much softer now

> and there is hair growing on his chest where one of his patches was.

> However, I found 2 new patches behind his knee and now I am so scared that

> AP is really not working. I thought that it would take time to recover but

> I

> did not think I would find any new ones - anyone have this happen?

>

> Sue

>

>

> From: rheumatic <mailto:rheumatic%40>

<mailto:rheumatic%40> <rheumatic%40> [mailto:

> rheumatic <mailto:rheumatic%40>

<mailto:rheumatic%40> <rheumatic%40>] On Behalf

> Of Kathy Dillon

> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:39 AM

> rheumatic <mailto:rheumatic%40>

<mailto:rheumatic%40> <rheumatic%40>

> Subject: rheumatic Re:teenager

>

>

> thank you, that could help as she refuses to take any vitamins and I plan

> to

> get blood work done, which im sure will show she is anemic as well. kathy

>

>

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