Guest guest Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Potassium levels are controlled in the serum by a complex system of aldosterone and renin from adnerals and kidneys. It is more complex than can be encompassed in an RT3 list. Google it! -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Potassium levels are controlled in the serum by a complex system of aldosterone and renin from adnerals and kidneys. It is more complex than can be encompassed in an RT3 list. Google it! -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Yeah even my GP says it's difficult to grasp Potassium as a whole. I was just asking cause we take sea salt here on this list, and.. I read that one shouldn't take one electrolyte supplement without taking another to balance it. The only electrolyte I take is sea salt. And I know HC presses Potasium down soooooo MAYBE, just maybe I am potassium deficient, and can't see it cause if the body releases potassium when it's loosing it, serum looks normal!?!?!?!?!? Potassium levels are controlled in the serum by a complex system of aldosterone and renin from adnerals and kidneys. It is more complex than can be encompassed in an RT3 list. Google it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Yeah even my GP says it's difficult to grasp Potassium as a whole. I was just asking cause we take sea salt here on this list, and.. I read that one shouldn't take one electrolyte supplement without taking another to balance it. The only electrolyte I take is sea salt. And I know HC presses Potasium down soooooo MAYBE, just maybe I am potassium deficient, and can't see it cause if the body releases potassium when it's loosing it, serum looks normal!?!?!?!?!? Potassium levels are controlled in the serum by a complex system of aldosterone and renin from adnerals and kidneys. It is more complex than can be encompassed in an RT3 list. Google it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 And I know HC presses Potasium down soooooo MAYBE, just maybe I am potassium deficient, and can't see it cause if the body releases potassium when it's loosing it, serum looks normal!?!?!?!?!? > > I found that taking potassium, 20-40 MEQ a day, relieved my leg cramps even though my serum level was not that bad, nor were my RBC levels low. If your kidneys are functioning properly, it is excreted as fast as you take it. Not easy to get too much. I felt much better since taking the triple potassium salts used by Dr. Gerson in his therapy. I get them from http://stat-mx.com/productspotassiumcomp.aspx Dorothy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 I suspect I have a sneaky potassium problem like that, because none of my tests were low, yet supplementing helped me. I take 1,500 mg/day potassium (K-Dur), and have checked my serum potassium several times to make sure it's not getting too high. It's not. The potassium has helped with IBS (a LOT), muscle cramps, and muscle weakness. None of my potassium tests were very low - neither serum nor RBC, they were lowish-mid-range. But since taking potassium helped me anyway, this seems a lot more complicated than the tests reveal. I am also on Florinef, which I understand depletes potassium, just to add another factor into this puzzle. > > So, I was wondering: > If Serum Potassium is midrange, or " fine " , can this mean the tissue is releasing potassium, and getting less and less, thus leaving the serum Potassium looking normal all the time until you get REAL sick from being potassium deficient? > If I supplement with Potassium, without knowing what my tissue levels are, will I see an overdose of potassium by seeing an increase in serum potassium? Like, the potassium I take will all the time move from serum into my tissue, until my tissue is " full " , and it " runs over " in serum? > How does that work? Val? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Margery if oyu find out what does this please let me know as in all my searching I am not finding the answers I need for potassium losses. I use Insulin whihc is known ot lower potasisum, btu how come pother Dinbetics don;t need 7500mg potassium a day liek I do? Makes no sense, but whne I try to drop even ONE pill I go right back oinot muscle pain and IBS so it definitely is telling me i need it. My s4erum levels were 4.2 before during and after taking 7500mg a day. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 Hi Val: Take a look at Weber's work, he's been studying potassium for 45 years http://charles_w.tripod.com/cortisol.html and http://members.tripod.com/~charles_W/arthritis4.html just for starters. Here are two very interesting paragraphs from his web pages: The most dangerous digestive diseases produce a protein poison which stimulates cyclic adenosine monophosphate [c-AMP] hormone in such a way that the lower intestines cannot remove water from their contents10 and thus cause diarrhea. Since potassium in food and the 2.5 grams or so secreted with digestive fluids can only move into the blood stream passively, 11 this causes a large loss of potassium. Judging by the reduction of the death rate in babies with virulent diarrhea from 34% to 6% by potassium supplements12 in spite of the danger of hyperkalemia (high serum potassium) during dehydration, the loss of potassium implied is the most serious consequence of diarrhea. Potassium loss is the most serious aspect of intestinal diseases, so the electrolyte capabilities of cortisol, but not corticosterone, are oriented toward conserving potassium. Low cell potassium reduces adrenal synthesis of cortisol, but not corticosterone. Sodium, water, glucose, amino acids, chloride, hydrogen ion, copper , and numerous others are controlled by cortisol in such a way as to survive during intestinal disease. > > Margery if oyu find out what does this please let me know as in all my > searching I am not finding the answers I need for potassium losses. I > use Insulin whihc is known ot lower potasisum, btu how come pother > Dinbetics don;t need 7500mg potassium a day liek I do? Makes no sense, > but whne I try to drop even ONE pill I go right back oinot muscle pain > and IBS so it definitely is telling me i need it. My s4erum levels were > 4.2 before during and after taking 7500mg a day. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 I have undiagnosed intestinal problems. Yellow/"white" bowels for 2 1/2 years.I hate the fact that serum levels of electrolytes don't tell the truth! So when we do serum electrolytes over and over, it's almost of no use - We HAVE to do RBC of them all!I did full blood of my electrolytes. Answer to that in 2 weeks. Do you guys think that's a good test?Subject: Re: Potassium, again..To: RT3_T3 Date: Friday, March 5, 2010, 3:19 PM Â Hi Val: Take a look at Weber's work, he's been studying potassium for 45 years http://charles_ w.tripod. com/cortisol. html and http://members. tripod.com/ ~charles_ W/arthritis4. html just for starters. Here are two very interesting paragraphs from his web pages: The most dangerous digestive diseases produce a protein poison which stimulates cyclic adenosine monophosphate [c-AMP] hormone in such a way that the lower intestines cannot remove water from their contents10 and thus cause diarrhea. Since potassium in food and the 2.5 grams or so secreted with digestive fluids can only move into the blood stream passively, 11 this causes a large loss of potassium. Judging by the reduction of the death rate in babies with virulent diarrhea from 34% to 6% by potassium supplements12 in spite of the danger of hyperkalemia (high serum potassium) during dehydration, the loss of potassium implied is the most serious consequence of diarrhea. Potassium loss is the most serious aspect of intestinal diseases, so the electrolyte capabilities of cortisol, but not corticosterone, are oriented toward conserving potassium. Low cell potassium reduces adrenal synthesis of cortisol, but not corticosterone. Sodium, water, glucose, amino acids, chloride, hydrogen ion, copper , and numerous others are controlled by cortisol in such a way as to survive during intestinal disease. > > Margery if oyu find out what does this please let me know as in all my > searching I am not finding the answers I need for potassium losses. I > use Insulin whihc is known ot lower potasisum, btu how come pother > Dinbetics don;t need 7500mg potassium a day liek I do? Makes no sense, > but whne I try to drop even ONE pill I go right back oinot muscle pain > and IBS so it definitely is telling me i need it. My s4erum levels were > 4.2 before during and after taking 7500mg a day. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthet hyroidmadness. com/ > http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ NaturalThyroidHo rmonesADRENALS/ > http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ RT3_T3/ > http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/HypoPets/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 > >I hate the fact that serum levels of electrolytes don't tell the truth! So when we do serum electrolytes over and over, it's almost of no use - We HAVE to do RBC of them all! Not quite, if they are out of balance in Serum then there is a problem. It's just that if they are correct in serum then there might still be a problem. Most people don't keep testing them over and over! Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 told me to do it ever 2 weeks until there is a balance. Well, I guess mine are balanced, because they are mostly within range, but I think they vary quite a lot even if I never really change my diet so much.It will be interesting to see my "Full Blood" analysis of all my electrolytes! Do you think I can trust that one more than serum? > >I hate the fact that serum levels of electrolytes don't tell the truth! So when we do serum electrolytes over and over, it's almost of no use - We HAVE to do RBC of them all! Not quite, if they are out of balance in Serum then there is a problem. It's just that if they are correct in serum then there might still be a problem. Most people don't keep testing them over and over! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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