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My avg temp yesterday dropped to 97.7 from 98.1. Last night I had to get up and

eat a snack around 2:00am, took an isocort with it and fallen back asleep. I

was getting that hypoglycemic attack with the deep hunger. My knees are starting

to hurt some. All of this is my low cortisol symptoms. I do not get joint pain

from low thyroid, just the dryness.

Just doing that tiny increase of 2.5 T3 mcg twice got me the second day.

This is the third day and let me see if my adrenals will try to work this out.

I am not going to increase T3.

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> Yesterday I increased my T3 to 40mcg.

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> 7.5

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> 5

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> 5

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> 5 - bedtime

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> every two hours.

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> I think I am becoming more hypo as I increase my T3. Yesterday upon the

increase my avg temp was 98.1.

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> Last night I slept fine, got up only once and went right back asleep. But

when I wake up I feel so tired though my basal read 98.1.

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> I feel more dry, eyes, hair, hands, my feet are getting cold, and I stay so

tired. I don't even have that extra energy lift in the late afternoons which I

usually get. I am tired all the time now. I have the slow thinking too.

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> I checked my pulse and it is 72. My heart feels fine. No pounding no pain or

anything.

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> I noticed today my temp is very low. It dropped down to 97.2 on my first

reading and that is very rare for me to have.

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> Yesterday the readings were 97.8, 98 and 98.4 avg. 98.1.

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> This is my second day on 40mcg.

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> To me I think I am going more hypo and burning up T3 faster than I am giving.

Does this happen? Does this seem to be happening to me?

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> I am trying to be careful with my adrenals. I don't seem to have any

adenaline rush. Did not get up in the middle of the night with hunger and my

vein on my arm isn't sticking out. It usually does this when my adrenaline

kicks in.

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> When I first started the T3, I felt the energy, and I felt it leave. When it

left, I noticed it was becoming quicker, from 3 hours to 1.5 etc... but now I am

tired all the time. I don't have that energy boost anymore.

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> My RT3 ratio was 8.

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I hope what you are telling me is that my adrenals are adapting to the 5mcg

increase of T3 and to wait for the temp to rise and when they stablize again

then do another increase?

Either the increase is helping my adrenals and they are adjusting to remove the

hypo-thyroid, or my adrenals can't handle it and I need to back off. I am

waiting to see how my temps go.

This morning my basal was 97.4. But I didn't feel as tired as I was yesterday

morning.

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> NO WAY is hunger a low cortisol symptom! That is T3 increasing your

> metbolism.

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http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

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I am at lower doses than you, but always on the 2nd day of my increase I start

to get my cold freezes back. It's almost as if My cortisol isn't working after

the increase. I am really tired now so I may not be making any sense. BUt I feel

after each increase almost that I doubt that I need it. I just feel worse

almost.

VAl, what is it supposed to feel like when you increase. Aren't we supposed to

feel a lttle better. NOt colder? I have also thought that maybe I need to

increase faster, maybe thats the problem. But I don't want to overdo it.

HelP

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> > NO WAY is hunger a low cortisol symptom! That is T3 increasing your

> > metbolism.

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> > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

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> > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> >

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

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I am at lower doses than you, but always on the 2nd day of my increase I start

to get my cold freezes back. It's almost as if My cortisol isn't working after

the increase. I am really tired now so I may not be making any sense. BUt I feel

after each increase almost that I doubt that I need it. I just feel worse

almost.

VAl, what is it supposed to feel like when you increase. Aren't we supposed to

feel a lttle better. NOt colder? I have also thought that maybe I need to

increase faster, maybe thats the problem. But I don't want to overdo it.

HelP

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> > NO WAY is hunger a low cortisol symptom! That is T3 increasing your

> > metbolism.

> >

> > --

> > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

> >

> > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> >

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

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Felling worse after T3 increase is NOT niormal nor what oyu hope to

feel. Iyt si a sign of adrnela stress. If it doesnt; correct in three

days after the increase you nee ot reduce bakc ot old dose and find the

cause of it be it too lwo ferritin still or cortios or electrolyte

imbalances.

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http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

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Felling worse after T3 increase is NOT niormal nor what oyu hope to

feel. Iyt si a sign of adrnela stress. If it doesnt; correct in three

days after the increase you nee ot reduce bakc ot old dose and find the

cause of it be it too lwo ferritin still or cortios or electrolyte

imbalances.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

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Felling worse after T3 increase is NOT niormal nor what oyu hope to

feel. Iyt si a sign of adrnela stress. If it doesnt; correct in three

days after the increase you nee ot reduce bakc ot old dose and find the

cause of it be it too lwo ferritin still or cortios or electrolyte

imbalances.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

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I am feeling less tired today, but my temp is slowly crawling up. It is my 3rd

day.

When it comes to T3 resistence I am getting confused. I read in some messages

where sometimes you can feel miserable during an increase due to T3 resistence

and when you finally break through you feel so much better. How do I know if

that is happening? If the temps do not drop and you feel tired is that

resistence?

If the temps drop and they come back up slowly is that not enough T3 and your

body is consuming it faster than you are giving?

Sometimes it just seems confusing.

I wish there was a flow chart to guide us. I'll be glad to put one together

since I work with software. I recall 's book had a flow-chart showing

symptoms and what to do etc... Be so nice to have one here too.

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> Felling worse after T3 increase is NOT niormal nor what oyu hope to

> feel. Iyt si a sign of adrnela stress. If it doesnt; correct in three

> days after the increase you nee ot reduce bakc ot old dose and find the

> cause of it be it too lwo ferritin still or cortios or electrolyte

> imbalances.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

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Resistance shoudl slowly ease as you raise the T3 levels, but then you

may have a breaktrouh aorund the 12 weeks marker when it ALL goes away.

But you shoudl have some small imporovements before then. When temps

drop from an increase it si adrenal stress, not resistance. But usually

wihtin 2-3 days the adrneals can catch up and get used to the new dosing

and temps SHOULD come baclk up, if they do nto adrenals are too weak or

undersupported for that raise.

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http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

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Thank you for clarifying that for me Val, I have been so confused. From what you

said I need to stay at my present dose a little longer. I was thinking I need to

increase faster. I was so confused. Also I did increase my Isocort thinking that

I may have not had enough. but I may have increased to too much because I went

from just having the slightest bit of edema around my ankles to now my entire

lower leg is quite puffy. Edema is a sign of having too mcuh cortisol, correct?

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> Resistance shoudl slowly ease as you raise the T3 levels, but then you

> may have a breaktrouh aorund the 12 weeks marker when it ALL goes away.

> But you shoudl have some small imporovements before then. When temps

> drop from an increase it si adrenal stress, not resistance. But usually

> wihtin 2-3 days the adrneals can catch up and get used to the new dosing

> and temps SHOULD come baclk up, if they do nto adrenals are too weak or

> undersupported for that raise.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

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It can be but it can also just be an imbalance where things are nto

working right. It is a tough symptom to treat. I fought wiht severe

edema for many year sbefore finding out I had potasisum deficiency thta

was causin git.

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http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

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>When I first started the T3, I felt the energy, and I felt it leave. When it

left, I noticed it was becoming quicker, from 3 hours to 1.5 etc... but now I am

tired all the time. I don't have that energy boost anymore.

Maybe you needed to go up 10 rather than 5.

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