Re: Dolores/AP and collagen?

[Guest guest]

That is interesting-my face and hands have gotten much more wrinkled since I

have gone on AP, but I just assumed it was because my skin had become so much

more sensitive to the sun. Even with SPF 50, I still burned last summer. Is it

something other than that?

Mona

rheumatic Dolores/AP and collagen?

Hi Dolores, did you say AP gets rid of collagen i.e breaks it down ? You said

your face got wrinkled. Do you know why AP affects collagen?

thanks...

Leonie

[Guest guest]

Mona,

 

I am in the same situation. I guess I better find out what to use. I look at one

of the phoatos my husband took recently anfd I look like someone scared me.

LOL:)

 

Eva

From: Mona Goldstein <spellers@...>

Subject: Re: rheumatic Dolores/AP and collagen?

rheumatic

Date: Saturday, March 14, 2009, 10:11 PM

That is interesting- my face and hands have gotten much more wrinkled since I

have gone on AP, but I just assumed it was because my skin had become so much

more sensitive to the sun. Even with SPF 50, I still burned last summer. Is it

something other than that?

Mona

rheumatic Dolores/AP and collagen?

Hi Dolores, did you say AP gets rid of collagen i.e breaks it down ? You said

your face got wrinkled. Do you know why AP affects collagen?

thanks...

Leonie

[Guest guest]

Eve,Mona;

Mino interferes with a protein that SD needs to make collagen.That

is why it is a good idea to rotate antibiotics if you can.Our bodies

were never meant to be on antibiotics for years and years.I scare myself

each time I look in a miror.Mind you I am 10 years older than when I

started AP. Lynne

> Mona,

>

> I am in the same situation. I guess I better find out what to use. I

> look at one of the phoatos my husband took recently anfd I look like

> someone scared me. LOL:)

>

> Eva

>

>

>

> From: Mona Goldstein <spellers@...

> <mailto:spellers%40optonline.net>>

> Subject: Re: rheumatic Dolores/AP and collagen?

> rheumatic <mailto:rheumatic%40>

> Date: Saturday, March 14, 2009, 10:11 PM

>

> That is interesting- my face and hands have gotten much more wrinkled

> since I have gone on AP, but I just assumed it was because my skin had

> become so much more sensitive to the sun. Even with SPF 50, I still

> burned last summer. Is it something other than that?

> Mona

> rheumatic Dolores/AP and collagen?

>

> Hi Dolores, did you say AP gets rid of collagen i.e breaks it down ?

> You said your face got wrinkled. Do you know why AP affects collagen?

> thanks...

> Leonie

>

>

[Guest guest]

Lynne,

 

right now I am just on Minocin and Biaxin and alternating them during the week.

What you are saying is that after a period of time I may have to change to

another antibiotic then those two? I have to watch what I take because some of

the antibiotics I have a problem with, like not being able to sleep or racing

heart.

Eva

>

> From: Mona Goldstein <spellersoptonline (DOT) net

> <mailto:spellers% 40optonline. net>>

> Subject: Re: rheumatic Dolores/AP and collagen?

> rheumatic@grou ps.com <mailto:rheumatic% 40groups. com>

> Date: Saturday, March 14, 2009, 10:11 PM

>

> That is interesting- my face and hands have gotten much more wrinkled

> since I have gone on AP, but I just assumed it was because my skin had

> become so much more sensitive to the sun. Even with SPF 50, I still

> burned last summer. Is it something other than that?

> Mona

> rheumatic Dolores/AP and collagen?

>

> Hi Dolores, did you say AP gets rid of collagen i.e breaks it down ?

> You said your face got wrinkled. Do you know why AP affects collagen?

> thanks...

> Leonie

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well this is encouraging. On top of feeling like crap I get to look forward to

premature aging as well. Has anyone else had this problem? I think I am

giving up folks and going on the biologics. Everything I have read about AP

talks about fewer side effects which is beginning to sound untrue. Kathy

> rheumatic

> From: holloway-eva@...

> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 21:19:28 -0700

> Subject: Re: rheumatic Dolores/AP and collagen?

>

> Lynne,

>

> right now I am just on Minocin and Biaxin and alternating them during the

week. What you are saying is that after a period of time I may have to change to

another antibiotic then those two? I have to watch what I take because some of

the antibiotics I have a problem with, like not being able to sleep or racing

heart.

>

> Eva

>

>

> >

> > From: Mona Goldstein <spellersoptonline (DOT) net

> > <mailto:spellers% 40optonline. net>>

> > Subject: Re: rheumatic Dolores/AP and collagen?

> > rheumatic@grou ps.com <mailto:rheumatic% 40groups. com>

> > Date: Saturday, March 14, 2009, 10:11 PM

> >

> > That is interesting- my face and hands have gotten much more wrinkled

> > since I have gone on AP, but I just assumed it was because my skin had

> > become so much more sensitive to the sun. Even with SPF 50, I still

> > burned last summer. Is it something other than that?

> > Mona

> > rheumatic Dolores/AP and collagen?

> >

> > Hi Dolores, did you say AP gets rid of collagen i.e breaks it down ?

> > You said your face got wrinkled. Do you know why AP affects collagen?

> > thanks...

> > Leonie

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

For those of you who are getting discouraged, I am only talking about the people

who have scleroderma that has led to overproduction of collagen.  I have never

seen a person with R/A have this problem,  Scleroderma is a terminal illness. 

It used to be about a 5 year survival rate.  however, now with A/P, the survival

rate can be 20 years or more.  Years ago they treated S/D with steroids and

toxic medicines.  Some doctors still do. And that is why people died from it. 

The toxic chemicals made them worse.  Discovering A/P is a God-send for someone

who has been told " Your terminal " , like I was told.  They also added on that

they would do their best to keep me comfortable.  That was in 2005.  I have to

tell you that w/o A/P, I would not be here writing this e:mail nor doing

anything at all.  I would or should have been in my grave back in 2006.  I was

skin & bones and couldn't get myself out of bed.  A/P gave me back my life by

reducing the

run away collagen build up that was turning me into stone.  Scleroderma is also

called The Stone disease.  If you don't have scleroderma, I don't think you get

the collagen buildup, but I can't say for sure.  The R/A experts will have to

confirm that.  It is also true that a chronic illness can make one very

depressed and premature wrinkling is one more thing to worry about. However,

being the ultimate optimist that I am, I feel that being alive is a gift.  If I

have a few battle scars, at least I can function.  I don't like to see my face

in the mirror.  Not long ago, I had a nice full face with plump cheeks. 

Scleroderma was the reason I was not getting wrinkles.  Well, been on A/P since

2005, not only restored my total ability to function, but it also got rid of my

plump cheeks.  As much as I don't like it, it is a small price to pay for

feeling good.  A/P is a God send.  I will always be forever grateful to have

found it.  The best to

you all~~~~Dolores & Mike~~~~~The glass is never half empty!  It is always half

full. 

> >

> > From: Mona Goldstein <spellers@optonline . net

> > <mailto:spellers% 40optonline. net>>

> > Subject: Re: rheumatic Dolores/AP and collagen?

> > rheumatic@grou ps.com <mailto:rheumatic% 40groups. com>

> > Date: Saturday, March 14, 2009, 10:11 PM

> >

> > That is interesting- my face and hands have gotten much more wrinkled

> > since I have gone on AP, but I just assumed it was because my skin had

> > become so much more sensitive to the sun. Even with SPF 50, I still

> > burned last summer. Is it something other than that?

> > Mona

> > rheumatic Dolores/AP and collagen?

> >

> > Hi Dolores, did you say AP gets rid of collagen i.e breaks it down ?

> > You said your face got wrinkled. Do you know why AP affects collagen?

> > thanks...

> > Leonie

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Doesn't RA do the same thing...break down collagen? Can't win huh?

Suzie Huening

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