Guest guest Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 Dolores, I copied this from google. The only difference in the one I am taking is that it is type 1 and 3 which is for the dermis. The people I know are taking it for their skin and a side effect is as below .less joint pain. Collagen is the protein building block found in skin, ligaments, tendons, bone, cartilage, blood vessels, and other connective tissue. There are about nineteen different types of collagen, but collagen type II is the most abundant in the human body. Collagen type II is specifically found in joints, such as the knees, elbows, hips, wrists and fingers. These joints are the ones most affected by arthritis. Oral collagen type II has been shown to alleviate the pain and swelling associated with both rheumatoid arthritis and osteoarthritis. Why it might help arthritis? When people suffer from arthritis, there is a selective destruction of collagen type II in the joint cartilage. This destruction of cartilage may activate the immune system to develop antibodies against collagen type II. This sets up an autoimmune response to all of the cartilage degenerating in the body, which results in rheumatoid arthritis (RA). In osteoarthritis there is a wear and tear destruction of cartilage with loss of collagen type II, but there is no immune response. Oral collagen type II is thought to help prevent an immune response through oral tolerance. There is a part of the intestine called the GALT (gut-activated lymphoid tissue) which is part of our immune system. In essence, white blood cells in the GALT allow us to eat a variety of different kinds of proteins without developing an allergy or sensitivity to them. Consequently, repeated oral collagen intake will result in a state of absent or minimal immune response to the collagen found in the joints. This will cause a reduction in the pain and swelling associated with rheumatoid arthritis. The exact mechanism is still not fully understood. It is also unknown why this treatment would relieve the symptoms of osteoarthritis and other types of arthritis that are not associated with autoimmunity. [1] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 Thank you for the wonderful article on collagen. I will put this into my collection of saved articles and will definitely research it thoroughly. I recently wrote a paper for someone who went through some collagen replacement surgery. She needed the article to present her experiences for the hospital where her surgery was performed in the U.K. She was unable to do this for herself because of severe sclerodactyly, so I wrote it for her. I didn't delve into the why because it may have been personally too painful for her psychologically. Apparently there is a doctor who replaces disfigured facial features on patients who have scleroderma disfigurement. Although my disfigurment isn't too noticeable, it is increasing and wondered if this surgery is offered in the U.S. as an alternative or only superficially for cosmetic purposes. The former could be covered by Insurance, the latter is not. This article I wrote was about two weeks ago and since it sparked my interest, I took note of your post and decided to find out more about collagen replacement and how it helps. So, again thank you. It is an area I will research and possibly add to the book I am writing re: Coping with incurable and terminal diseases. Thank you, Dolores P.R. From: Cooky Stonkey <cookee1@...> Subject: rheumatic collagen " rheumatic " <rheumatic > Date: Saturday, March 14, 2009, 4:08 PM Dolores, I copied this from google. The only difference in the one I am taking is that it is type 1 and 3 which is for the dermis. The people I know are taking it for their skin and a side effect is as below .less joint pain. Collagen is the protein building block found in skin, ligaments, tendons, bone, cartilage, blood vessels, and other connective tissue. There are about nineteen different types of collagen, but collagen type II is the most abundant in the human body. Collagen type II is specifically found in joints, such as the knees, elbows, hips, wrists and fingers. These joints are the ones most affected by arthritis. Oral collagen type II has been shown to alleviate the pain and swelling associated with both rheumatoid arthritis and osteoarthritis. Why it might help arthritis? When people suffer from arthritis, there is a selective destruction of collagen type II in the joint cartilage. This destruction of cartilage may activate the immune system to develop antibodies against collagen type II. This sets up an autoimmune response to all of the cartilage degenerating in the body, which results in rheumatoid arthritis (RA). In osteoarthritis there is a wear and tear destruction of cartilage with loss of collagen type II, but there is no immune response. Oral collagen type II is thought to help prevent an immune response through oral tolerance. There is a part of the intestine called the GALT (gut-activated lymphoid tissue) which is part of our immune system. In essence, white blood cells in the GALT allow us to eat a variety of different kinds of proteins without developing an allergy or sensitivity to them. Consequently, repeated oral collagen intake will result in a state of absent or minimal immune response to the collagen found in the joints. This will cause a reduction in the pain and swelling associated with rheumatoid arthritis. The exact mechanism is still not fully understood. It is also unknown why this treatment would relieve the symptoms of osteoarthritis and other types of arthritis that are not associated with autoimmunity. [1] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 Hi Dodo; There was a lot of info on this topic on the old Roadback site.The archives are up and running so you should find something there..Seems that collagen is sort of the " hair of the dog " story.SDers are better off with bovine collagen and RAers with chicken collagen.I certainly would not have cosmetic surgery done with this stuff as it has not been broken down by digestion and really might come back and haunt me. > Thank you for the wonderful article on collagen. I will put this into > my collection of saved articles and will definitely research it > thoroughly. I recently wrote a paper for someone who went through > some collagen replacement surgery. She needed the article to present > her experiences for the hospital where her surgery was performed in > the U.K. She was unable to do this for herself because of severe > sclerodactyly, so I wrote it for her. I didn't delve into the why > because it may have been personally too painful for her > psychologically. Apparently there is a doctor who replaces disfigured > facial features on patients who have scleroderma disfigurement. > Although my disfigurment isn't too noticeable, it is increasing and > wondered if this surgery is offered in the U.S. as an alternative or > only superficially for cosmetic purposes. The former could be covered > by Insurance, the latter is not. This article I wrote was about two > weeks ago and since > it sparked my interest, I took note of your post and decided to find > out more about collagen replacement and how it helps. So, again thank > you. It is an area I will research and possibly add to the book I am > writing re: Coping with incurable and terminal diseases. Thank you, > Dolores P.R. > > > > From: Cooky Stonkey <cookee1@... <mailto:cookee1%40comcast.net>> > Subject: rheumatic collagen > " rheumatic " <rheumatic > <mailto:rheumatic%40>> > Date: Saturday, March 14, 2009, 4:08 PM > > Dolores, > > I copied this from google. The only difference in the one I am taking is > that it is type 1 and 3 which is for the dermis. The people I know are > taking it for their skin and a side effect is as below .less joint pain. > > Collagen is the protein building block found in skin, ligaments, tendons, > bone, cartilage, blood vessels, and other connective tissue. There are > about nineteen different types of collagen, but collagen type II is > the most > abundant in the human body. Collagen type II is specifically found in > joints, such as the knees, elbows, hips, wrists and fingers. These joints > are the ones most affected by arthritis. > > Oral collagen type II has been shown to alleviate the pain and swelling > associated with both rheumatoid arthritis and osteoarthritis. > > Why it might help arthritis? > > When people suffer from arthritis, there is a selective destruction of > collagen type II in the joint cartilage. This destruction of cartilage may > activate the immune system to develop antibodies against collagen type II. > This sets up an autoimmune response to all of the cartilage > degenerating in > the body, which results in rheumatoid arthritis (RA). In osteoarthritis > there is a wear and tear destruction of cartilage with loss of > collagen type > II, but there is no immune response. > > Oral collagen type II is thought to help prevent an immune response > through > oral tolerance. There is a part of the intestine called the GALT > (gut-activated lymphoid tissue) which is part of our immune system. In > essence, white blood cells in the GALT allow us to eat a variety of > different kinds of proteins without developing an allergy or > sensitivity to > them. Consequently, repeated oral collagen intake will result in a > state of > absent or minimal immune response to the collagen found in the joints. > This > will cause a reduction in the pain and swelling associated with rheumatoid > arthritis. The exact mechanism is still not fully understood. It is also > unknown why this treatment would relieve the symptoms of > osteoarthritis and > other types of arthritis that are not associated with autoimmunity. 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