Cooky/prednisolone, cortisone, prednisone?

August 25, 2008

ok, thanks for the info cooky....so the reason ppl get damage on AP,

is that AP never worked for them in the first place, or didn't kick

in. AP doesn't seem to kick in with everyone, or at least has varying

results. it seems like one has to take the approach ethel suggests

and do detoxes etc to maximise the effectiveness. or something

else... i don't have a clue.

why do you say the only thing that stops damage is AP, assuming it

works ? methotrexate and the like, stop damage in some people, but of

course by a different route. i know however that it causes other side

effects which can be damaging, so it's not clear cut. it seems one

has to be on a daily high dose of minocycline to get results - esp in

my case since i'm in the late stages of damage. mucking around with

50 or 100mg MWF is a waste of time for me since my joints are

crumbling on a daily basis. you don't have to convince me that AP is

a good and effective therapy for many people- i've read the scammell

book but i still have questions. i'm not sold that AP is any safer

than DMARDs. 70% of the immune system is located in the Gut, and for

all intents and purposes, the gut might as well be located outside

the body due to the nature of how it protects us from pathogens and

anything foreign - a bit like the skin. a sterile gut is no good -

it's the bacteria that do all the work to maintain the immune system.

mino attacks our first line of defense by killing the flora needed to

maintain health. if you don't think intestinal flora is important,

just read up on it via Google or read the GAPS book. it's the

catalyst by which everything else happens in our system - those tiny

bugs which people take for granted. what if taking minocycline

causes candida overgrowth and makes you sick ? it has happened.

nobody has an answer for that. candida is extremely toxic in itself

(byproducts) and has been known to kill people on it's own. how can

that be worse than methotexate for example ?

well, maybe there's no answer for all this, but i have to wonder.

like usual i think too much, probably about all the wrong things

though.

thanks again,

Leonie

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August 26, 2008

ok, thanks for the info cooky....so the reason ppl get damage on AP,

is that AP never worked for them in the first place,I WOULD NOT STILL BE ON

IT IF I WAS GETTING DAMAGE or didn't kick

in. AP doesn't seem to kick in with everyone, or at least has varying

results. it seems like one has to take the approach ethel suggests

and do detoxes etc to maximise the effectiveness. or something

else... i don't have a clue. I DID NO DETOXES. I DID DO IV'S BUT A LOT OF

PEOPLE DO NOT EVEN NEED THEM.

why do you say the only thing that stops damage is AP, assuming it

works ? methotrexate and the like, stop damage in some people, but of

course by a different route.NO IT DOES NOT. i know however that it causes

other side

effects which can be damaging, so it's not clear cut. it seems one

has to be on a daily high dose of minocycline to get results -NO YOU DO NOT

esp in

my case since i'm in the late stages of damage. mucking around with

50 or 100mg MWF is a waste of time for me since my joints are

crumbling on a daily basis.LEONIE I COULD KICK YOUR LITTLE BUTT!!! DO YOU

NOT LET STUFF SINK IN? HAVE YOU NOT READ THE HISTORIES. DOC BROWN HAD PEOPLE

ON AP THAT WERE REALLY BAD AND THEY DID FINE. you don't have to convince me

that AP is

a good and effective therapy for many people- i've read the scammell

book but i still have questions. i'm not sold that AP is any safer

than DMARDs.I HAVE BEEN ON IT FOR 11 YEARS.MY EARS ARE NOT FALLING OFF. 70%

of the immune system is located in the Gut, and for