Guest guest Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 High cortisol will also cause you to have trouble falling and staying asleep. With your hoigh dosages I woudl suspect that more than low cortisol. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 I can't take HC after mid-afternoon. If I do, I can't sleep. I know that many people have no problem with HC, but I do. It's possible you could have the same problem? Also, I take 100 mg 5Htp 3 times a day. This helps greatly with sleep. Peggy sleep and t3 Just so I can look forward to a light at the end of the tunnel:optimal doses of t3 help a person fall asleep?It has been many months of difficulty falling asleep. I take hc: 10, 10, 7.5, 7.5, 5, 5...What ends up happening is that I lie in bed unable to sleep so I take additional hc so as to calm down the adrenaline that kicks in... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 > > High cortisol will also cause you to have trouble falling and staying > asleep. With your hoigh dosages I woudl suspect that more than low cortisol. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Sorry, I clicked 'send' before entering the message.. I've been on 45 hc for at least a week now and when I try to reduce I get this adrenaline speediness. so i take 5 mg hc and it calms me down. what kind of hc schedule would you recommend? I'm willing to try a new schedule this week and see if it helps with my sleep. Thanks! > > High cortisol will also cause you to have trouble falling and staying > asleep. With your hoigh dosages I woudl suspect that more than low cortisol. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 If I go without hc for a few hours I begin to shake. I've tried going without hc from 4:30 p.m. until bedtime. By 6:30/7:00 I am shaking like a leaf and 5 mg of cortef helps stop the shakiness. Two hours or so later I again feel the shakiness so I take another 5 hc to relieve it. And so I end up on a total of 45 hc per day at this point. > > I can't take HC after mid-afternoon. If I do, I can't sleep. I know that many people have no problem with HC, but I do. It's possible you could have the same problem? Also, I take 100 mg 5Htp 3 times a day. This helps greatly with sleep. > > Peggy > > sleep and t3 > Just so I can look forward to a light at the end of the tunnel: > optimal doses of t3 help a person fall asleep? > > It has been many months of difficulty falling asleep. > > I take hc: 10, 10, 7.5, 7.5, 5, 5...What ends up happening is that I lie in bed unable to sleep so I take additional hc so as to calm down the adrenaline that kicks in... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Thank you, Val, I will try this for a coupla days. What if I feel restless after my final 2.5 dose, and my adrenaline begins to pump out cuz my body is overtired, should i then take some more hc? or some benzo? which benzo would knock me out? thank you so much for your help. > > 10, 10, 7.5, 5, 5,2.5 > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 I thought I might share my experience. I have had severe insomnia for 13 years. I have been to every doctor, endo, nutritionist, ER, it has been bad. Most doctors said, "It sounds like thyroid, " but with no answer. I finally raised my T3 to 75 mcg. What helped the most was moving my T3 doses to lunch, dinner and then bedtime. I have been doing this for about 8 weeks and fall asleep about 75% of the time and sleep until the morning. It was before this that I was awake the entire night as often happened. I was told not to take thyroid at night, but this has been working for me. I just thought I would write in case this helps anyone else. I have to thank Val and all the moderators for their help. It has been so helpful to me and my family. I am still working on my HC, but I know this plays a role as well. Marie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 I thought I might share my experience. I have had severe insomnia for 13 years. I have been to every doctor, endo, nutritionist, ER, it has been bad. Most doctors said, "It sounds like thyroid, " but with no answer. I finally raised my T3 to 75 mcg. What helped the most was moving my T3 doses to lunch, dinner and then bedtime. I have been doing this for about 8 weeks and fall asleep about 75% of the time and sleep until the morning. It was before this that I was awake the entire night as often happened. I was told not to take thyroid at night, but this has been working for me. I just thought I would write in case this helps anyone else. I have to thank Val and all the moderators for their help. It has been so helpful to me and my family. I am still working on my HC, but I know this plays a role as well. Marie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 I thought I might share my experience. I have had severe insomnia for 13 years. I have been to every doctor, endo, nutritionist, ER, it has been bad. Most doctors said, "It sounds like thyroid, " but with no answer. I finally raised my T3 to 75 mcg. What helped the most was moving my T3 doses to lunch, dinner and then bedtime. I have been doing this for about 8 weeks and fall asleep about 75% of the time and sleep until the morning. It was before this that I was awake the entire night as often happened. I was told not to take thyroid at night, but this has been working for me. I just thought I would write in case this helps anyone else. I have to thank Val and all the moderators for their help. It has been so helpful to me and my family. I am still working on my HC, but I know this plays a role as well. Marie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Thank you for sharing. YOur bedtime dose doesn't keep you alert? I've tried bedtime doses together with a benzo. Otherwise it keeps me awake. NOt sure what keeps me awake, I'm awake no matter what I try... I need to be on at least 100 t3 (replacement/suppression dose) and possibly by then my insomnia will improve. In the meantime, I'm underdosed and sleepless. Benzo's are the only thing that sometimes work. If benzo's push the body to produce more cortisol, then perhaps I simply should take a big dose of hc at bedtime... > > > I thought I might share my experience. I have had severe insomnia for 13 years. I have been to every doctor, endo, nutritionist, ER, it has been bad. Most doctors said, " It sounds like thyroid, " but with no answer. I finally raised my T3 to 75 mcg. What helped the most was moving my T3 doses to lunch, dinner and then bedtime. I have been doing this for about 8 weeks and fall asleep about 75% of the time and sleep until the morning. It was before this that I was awake the entire night as often happened. I was told not to take thyroid at night, but this has been working for me. I just thought I would write in case this helps anyone else. > > I have to thank Val and all the moderators for their help. It has been so helpful to me and my family. > > I am still working on my HC, but I know this plays a role as well. > > Marie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Thank you for sharing. YOur bedtime dose doesn't keep you alert? I've tried bedtime doses together with a benzo. Otherwise it keeps me awake. NOt sure what keeps me awake, I'm awake no matter what I try... I need to be on at least 100 t3 (replacement/suppression dose) and possibly by then my insomnia will improve. In the meantime, I'm underdosed and sleepless. Benzo's are the only thing that sometimes work. If benzo's push the body to produce more cortisol, then perhaps I simply should take a big dose of hc at bedtime... > > > I thought I might share my experience. I have had severe insomnia for 13 years. I have been to every doctor, endo, nutritionist, ER, it has been bad. Most doctors said, " It sounds like thyroid, " but with no answer. I finally raised my T3 to 75 mcg. What helped the most was moving my T3 doses to lunch, dinner and then bedtime. I have been doing this for about 8 weeks and fall asleep about 75% of the time and sleep until the morning. It was before this that I was awake the entire night as often happened. I was told not to take thyroid at night, but this has been working for me. I just thought I would write in case this helps anyone else. > > I have to thank Val and all the moderators for their help. It has been so helpful to me and my family. > > I am still working on my HC, but I know this plays a role as well. > > Marie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 For the last 3years I had no help of anything falling asleep.Here I was told about melatonin which did help but after I switched to T3 only I still had this problem until Val told me to get my last dose of T3 at bed time.That is waht made the difference.Now every day if i don't get my bed dose I still can't fall asleep but with T3 before I turn the light out I have no problems.That is like my sleep pill now and i don't need melatonin more. Milena > > > > > > I thought I might share my experience. I have had severe insomnia for 13 years. I have been to every doctor, endo, nutritionist, ER, it has been bad. Most doctors said, " It sounds like thyroid, " but with no answer. I finally raised my T3 to 75 mcg. What helped the most was moving my T3 doses to lunch, dinner and then bedtime. I have been doing this for about 8 weeks and fall asleep about 75% of the time and sleep until the morning. It was before this that I was awake the entire night as often happened. I was told not to take thyroid at night, but this has been working for me. I just thought I would write in case this helps anyone else. > > > > I have to thank Val and all the moderators for their help. It has been so helpful to me and my family. > > > > I am still working on my HC, but I know this plays a role as well. > > > > Marie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 It seems the bedtime t3 dose makes you sleepy? and by day the t3 does not make you sleepy? interesting. > > > > > > > > > I thought I might share my experience. I have had severe insomnia for 13 years. I have been to every doctor, endo, nutritionist, ER, it has been bad. Most doctors said, " It sounds like thyroid, " but with no answer. I finally raised my T3 to 75 mcg. What helped the most was moving my T3 doses to lunch, dinner and then bedtime. I have been doing this for about 8 weeks and fall asleep about 75% of the time and sleep until the morning. It was before this that I was awake the entire night as often happened. I was told not to take thyroid at night, but this has been working for me. I just thought I would write in case this helps anyone else. > > > > > > I have to thank Val and all the moderators for their help. It has been so helpful to me and my family. > > > > > > I am still working on my HC, but I know this plays a role as well. > > > > > > Marie > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 oh well, I tried the melatonin and it seems to have been a bad choice for me. I woke up after four hours with the shakes and sweaty and I heard my heart pounding (with some funny beats in between the good ones) and could not fall asleep again. I never wake up after four hours of sleep. My problem is with FALLING asleep, not with STAYING asleep. so i woke up at 4 a.m. and now at 5 a.m. i am as awake as anything. so no more melatonin for me. > > >It seems the bedtime t3 dose makes you sleepy? and by day the t3 does not make you sleepy? interesting. > > Yes, my theory is that it lowers cortisol at night and that helps you > sleep. > > For it to work for me I need to take it as I put the light out, take > it earlier and it wakes me up. > > The quality of my sleep has improved, I need less of it, and I wake up > feeling refreshed and " not hypo " . > > I was very doubtful about trying it as I had found that Natural after > 2pm kept me awake. > > Nick > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 So a bedtime dose of t3 would be helpful to those who have high nighttime cortisol, but not for those with low nighttime cortisol? I wish there was a prick-test to do at night, to test my nighttime cortisol levels at this point. > > >It seems the bedtime t3 dose makes you sleepy? and by day the t3 does not make you sleepy? interesting. > > Yes, my theory is that it lowers cortisol at night and that helps you > sleep. > > For it to work for me I need to take it as I put the light out, take > it earlier and it wakes me up. > > The quality of my sleep has improved, I need less of it, and I wake up > feeling refreshed and " not hypo " . > > I was very doubtful about trying it as I had found that Natural after > 2pm kept me awake. > > Nick > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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