Re: Heeeeelp! - about the marshall protocol

[Guest guest]

Hi Leonie;

I know just what you mean.When I pulled up the MP site I just went

ACKKKK how the heck am I supposed to understand this.English is my 4th

language and definately not very good (as you can see by the baby words

I use) and Ihad never seen such words in my life.I sat down with my

English to French dictionay and when I could not understand I would move

to the French /German one just to get the bloody gist of it all.After a

couple of years of cussing and swearing (and studying)things make pretty

good sense.I have degrees in Archeology and Paleoanthropology for which

pre-med was a requisite and dietetics and still had a rough time so

don't worry your pretty little head about it.Someone is sure to explain

it in plain English and if they do pass it on to me hehehe Lynne

leonie cent wrote:

> Hello everyone,

>

> Can anyone out there explain or summarise what the marshall protocol

> is all about, in layman's terms - you know ? ... in the style a dummy

> like me could understand ! What's the deal with vitamin D - how about

> all the info that's coming out these days about D deficiency being

> linked to cancer etc ? I tried looking up the website and reading the

> info, but unfortunately these people must be thinking that anyone who

> visits has Einstein-ian qualities of comprehension.

>

> Forever in your debt for any help.

>

> Leonie the not-so-intelligent

>

>

[Guest guest]

Leonie,

English is my 3rd language (after German and French), not the 4th

language as for you, so I will try to provide a simplified

explanation of the Marshall Protocol with some excerpts from the web.

http://bacteriality.com/about-the-mp/

" The Marshall Protocol (MP) is a medical treatment used by physicians

worldwide to treat a variety of chronic inflammatory and autoimmune

diseases including (but not limited to) Sarcoidosis, Chronic Fatigue

Syndrome, Fibromyalgia, Crohn's Disease and Rheumatoid Arthritis...

Chronic diseases (termed Th1 illnesses), are caused when individuals

accumulate large amounts of L-form bacteria, bacteria that have

changed form and lost their cell walls... Patients on the Marshall

Protocol take the medication Olmesartan (called Benicar in the United

States)... Patients also avoid the kinds of vitamin D present in

various foods. These measures renew the body's ability to turn on the

innate immune system and produce anti-microbial peptides. The immune

system is then able to kill L-form bacteria and is once again able to

manage viral and other co-infections... At the same time, MP patients

take pulsed, low-dose antibiotics. "

http://members.aol.com/SynergyHN/MPall

" ... Benicar has been found to be useful in Sarcoidosis because it

helps to interrupt the vicious cycle of excessive inflammation caused

by cell wall deficient (CWD) bacteria... The first antibiotic used in

the Marshall Protocol (MP), minocycline, was chosen because it has

greater penetrance and is more effective against a wider array of CWD

bacterial forms... The current recommendation is to gradually

increase the dose, by increments of 12.5 mg per day until one reaches

100 mg of minocycline every other day. It is important not to

increase to a higher dose until one has been at the lower dose for a

week or more and the die-off (Herx) reactions have decreased to a

minimal level. "

In my assessment, the Marshall Protocol is a version of Dr. Brown's

antibiotic protocol. Dr. Marshall's work addressed the disease

Sarcoidosis. It appears that the other four diseases (Chronic Fatigue

Syndrome, Fibromyalgia, Crohn's Disease and Rheumatoid Arthritis)

were added as an afterthought, possibly because the market is so much larger.

Sincerely, Harald

At 05:07 PM 1/27/2008, Leonie Cent wrote:

>Hi Leonie;

>I know just what you mean.When I pulled up the MP site I just went

>ACKKKK how the heck am I supposed to understand this. English is my 4th

>language and definately not very good (as you can see by the baby words

>I use) and Ihad never seen such words in my life.I sat down with my

>English to French dictionay and when I could not understand I would move

>to the French /German one just to get the bloody gist of it all. After a

>couple of years of cussing and swearing (and studying) things make pretty

>good sense. I have degrees in Archeology and Paleoanthropology for which

>pre-med was a requisite and dietetics and still had a rough time so

>don't worry your pretty little head about it. Someone is sure to explain

>it in plain English and if they do pass it on to me hehehe Lynne

>

>leonie cent wrote:

>

> > Hello everyone,

> >

> > Can anyone out there explain or summarise what the marshall protocol

> > is all about, in layman's terms - you know ? ... in the style a dummy

> > like me could understand ! What's the deal with vitamin D - how about

> > all the info that's coming out these days about D deficiency being

> > linked to cancer etc ? I tried looking up the website and reading the

> > info, but unfortunately these people must be thinking that anyone who

> > visits has Einstein-ian qualities of comprehension.

> >

> > Forever in your debt for any help.

> >

> > Leonie the not-so-intelligent

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thank you for your explanation. This helps a lot. I am at the preset time on

Biaxin, do to an overwhelming amount of sinus infections, strep and pneumonia. I

have RA and DM, besides interstitial pulmonary fibrosis and Celiac. I had to

take a large dose of D3, but off now since I reached a good level.

Vielen Dank,

Eva

" Harald Weiss, Technical Marketing Group " <hweiss@...> wrote:

Leonie,

English is my 3rd language (after German and French), not the 4th

language as for you, so I will try to provide a simplified

explanation of the Marshall Protocol with some excerpts from the web.

http://bacteriality.com/about-the-mp/

" The Marshall Protocol (MP) is a medical treatment used by physicians

worldwide to treat a variety of chronic inflammatory and autoimmune

diseases including (but not limited to) Sarcoidosis, Chronic Fatigue

Syndrome, Fibromyalgia, Crohn's Disease and Rheumatoid Arthritis...

Chronic diseases (termed Th1 illnesses), are caused when individuals

accumulate large amounts of L-form bacteria, bacteria that have

changed form and lost their cell walls... Patients on the Marshall

Protocol take the medication Olmesartan (called Benicar in the United

States)... Patients also avoid the kinds of vitamin D present in

various foods. These measures renew the body's ability to turn on the

innate immune system and produce anti-microbial peptides. The immune

system is then able to kill L-form bacteria and is once again able to

manage viral and other co-infections... At the same time, MP patients

take pulsed, low-dose antibiotics. "

http://members.aol.com/SynergyHN/MPall

" ... Benicar has been found to be useful in Sarcoidosis because it

helps to interrupt the vicious cycle of excessive inflammation caused

by cell wall deficient (CWD) bacteria... The first antibiotic used in

the Marshall Protocol (MP), minocycline, was chosen because it has

greater penetrance and is more effective against a wider array of CWD

bacterial forms... The current recommendation is to gradually

increase the dose, by increments of 12.5 mg per day until one reaches

100 mg of minocycline every other day. It is important not to

increase to a higher dose until one has been at the lower dose for a

week or more and the die-off (Herx) reactions have decreased to a

minimal level. "

In my assessment, the Marshall Protocol is a version of Dr. Brown's

antibiotic protocol. Dr. Marshall's work addressed the disease

Sarcoidosis. It appears that the other four diseases (Chronic Fatigue

Syndrome, Fibromyalgia, Crohn's Disease and Rheumatoid Arthritis)

were added as an afterthought, possibly because the market is so much larger.

Sincerely, Harald

At 05:07 PM 1/27/2008, Leonie Cent wrote:

>Hi Leonie;

>I know just what you mean.When I pulled up the MP site I just went

>ACKKKK how the heck am I supposed to understand this. English is my 4th

>language and definately not very good (as you can see by the baby words

>I use) and Ihad never seen such words in my life.I sat down with my

>English to French dictionay and when I could not understand I would move

>to the French /German one just to get the bloody gist of it all. After a

>couple of years of cussing and swearing (and studying) things make pretty

>good sense. I have degrees in Archeology and Paleoanthropology for which

>pre-med was a requisite and dietetics and still had a rough time so

>don't worry your pretty little head about it. Someone is sure to explain

>it in plain English and if they do pass it on to me hehehe Lynne

>

>leonie cent wrote:

>

> > Hello everyone,

> >

> > Can anyone out there explain or summarise what the marshall protocol

> > is all about, in layman's terms - you know ? ... in the style a dummy

> > like me could understand ! What's the deal with vitamin D - how about

> > all the info that's coming out these days about D deficiency being

> > linked to cancer etc ? I tried looking up the website and reading the

> > info, but unfortunately these people must be thinking that anyone who

> > visits has Einstein-ian qualities of comprehension.

> >

> > Forever in your debt for any help.

> >

> > Leonie the not-so-intelligent

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Leonie - this was the site that I liked for simplicity ... but keep in

mind that this is a simplistic explanation (ha):

http://wehelpwhathurts.homestead.com/immunoinflammatory.html

excerpts:

*Mycoplasma are the bad guys. Vitamin D25 is a get out of jail card.

Benicar are the cops and antibiotics are the sharp shooters.

** " The first step is to take away the get out of jail passes (make sure

Vitamin D25 levels are not too high). Next, bring in the cops (Benicar)

to round 'em up "

** " Unless you have a severe immune disease such as Sarcoid, there is

usually not much of a fight when the mycoplasma are corralled by the

Benicar cops. If there is a brawl, just bring in more cops " .

** " Depending upon your individual conditions, expect to be on both

Benicar and an antibiotic for at least 3 -- 6 months. Blood levels will

be taken periodically to assess how many mycoplasma have been killed "

Amy

*leonie cent wrote:

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> Can anyone out there explain or summarise what the marshall protocol

> is all about, in layman's terms - you know ? ... in the style a dummy

> like me could understand ! What's the deal with vitamin D - how about

> all the info that's coming out these days about D deficiency being

> linked to cancer etc ? I tried looking up the website and reading the

> info, but unfortunately these people must be thinking that anyone who

> visits has Einstein-ian qualities of comprehension.

>

> Forever in your debt for any help.

>

> Leonie the not-so-intelligent

>

>

[Guest guest]

I loved this cartoonish explanation. Brought a vision of keystone Kops chasing

the bad guys.

May use this explanation in my book with your permission. It is genius!

Thanks Dolores

Amy <Evanesce@...> wrote:

Leonie - this was the site that I liked for simplicity ... but keep in

mind that this is a simplistic explanation (ha):

http://wehelpwhathurts.homestead.com/immunoinflammatory.html

excerpts:

*Mycoplasma are the bad guys. Vitamin D25 is a get out of jail card.

Benicar are the cops and antibiotics are the sharp shooters.

** " The first step is to take away the get out of jail passes (make sure

Vitamin D25 levels are not too high). Next, bring in the cops (Benicar)

to round 'em up "

** " Unless you have a severe immune disease such as Sarcoid, there is

usually not much of a fight when the mycoplasma are corralled by the

Benicar cops. If there is a brawl, just bring in more cops " .

** " Depending upon your individual conditions, expect to be on both

Benicar and an antibiotic for at least 3 -- 6 months. Blood levels will

be taken periodically to assess how many mycoplasma have been killed "

Amy

*leonie cent wrote:

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> Can anyone out there explain or summarise what the marshall protocol

> is all about, in layman's terms - you know ? ... in the style a dummy

> like me could understand ! What's the deal with vitamin D - how about

> all the info that's coming out these days about D deficiency being

> linked to cancer etc ? I tried looking up the website and reading the

> info, but unfortunately these people must be thinking that anyone who

> visits has Einstein-ian qualities of comprehension.

>

> Forever in your debt for any help.

>

> Leonie the not-so-intelligent

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Harald. The story of M/P, by you was well written. I'd like to use

that in my book with your's and TM's permission. Will check out the legal

procedures before I do. I am on the tail end of M/P phase 1. Hope to proceed to

Phase 2 in a couple of weeks. Have sent for the application. Will be gone from

home for two weeks. Need to make a quick trip. Talk when I get back. Thanks,

Dolores & Mike

" Harald Weiss, Technical Marketing Group " <hweiss@...> wrote:

Leonie,

English is my 3rd language (after German and French), not the 4th

language as for you, so I will try to provide a simplified

explanation of the Marshall Protocol with some excerpts from the web.

http://bacteriality.com/about-the-mp/

" The Marshall Protocol (MP) is a medical treatment used by physicians

worldwide to treat a variety of chronic inflammatory and autoimmune

diseases including (but not limited to) Sarcoidosis, Chronic Fatigue

Syndrome, Fibromyalgia, Crohn's Disease and Rheumatoid Arthritis...

Chronic diseases (termed Th1 illnesses), are caused when individuals

accumulate large amounts of L-form bacteria, bacteria that have

changed form and lost their cell walls... Patients on the Marshall

Protocol take the medication Olmesartan (called Benicar in the United

States)... Patients also avoid the kinds of vitamin D present in

various foods. These measures renew the body's ability to turn on the

innate immune system and produce anti-microbial peptides. The immune

system is then able to kill L-form bacteria and is once again able to

manage viral and other co-infections... At the same time, MP patients

take pulsed, low-dose antibiotics. "

http://members.aol.com/SynergyHN/MPall

" ... Benicar has been found to be useful in Sarcoidosis because it

helps to interrupt the vicious cycle of excessive inflammation caused

by cell wall deficient (CWD) bacteria... The first antibiotic used in

the Marshall Protocol (MP), minocycline, was chosen because it has

greater penetrance and is more effective against a wider array of CWD

bacterial forms... The current recommendation is to gradually

increase the dose, by increments of 12.5 mg per day until one reaches

100 mg of minocycline every other day. It is important not to

increase to a higher dose until one has been at the lower dose for a

week or more and the die-off (Herx) reactions have decreased to a

minimal level. "

In my assessment, the Marshall Protocol is a version of Dr. Brown's

antibiotic protocol. Dr. Marshall's work addressed the disease

Sarcoidosis. It appears that the other four diseases (Chronic Fatigue

Syndrome, Fibromyalgia, Crohn's Disease and Rheumatoid Arthritis)

were added as an afterthought, possibly because the market is so much larger.

Sincerely, Harald

At 05:07 PM 1/27/2008, Leonie Cent wrote:

>Hi Leonie;

>I know just what you mean.When I pulled up the MP site I just went

>ACKKKK how the heck am I supposed to understand this. English is my 4th

>language and definately not very good (as you can see by the baby words

>I use) and Ihad never seen such words in my life.I sat down with my

>English to French dictionay and when I could not understand I would move

>to the French /German one just to get the bloody gist of it all. After a

>couple of years of cussing and swearing (and studying) things make pretty

>good sense. I have degrees in Archeology and Paleoanthropology for which

>pre-med was a requisite and dietetics and still had a rough time so

>don't worry your pretty little head about it. Someone is sure to explain

>it in plain English and if they do pass it on to me hehehe Lynne

>

>leonie cent wrote:

>

> > Hello everyone,

> >

> > Can anyone out there explain or summarise what the marshall protocol

> > is all about, in layman's terms - you know ? ... in the style a dummy

> > like me could understand ! What's the deal with vitamin D - how about

> > all the info that's coming out these days about D deficiency being

> > linked to cancer etc ? I tried looking up the website and reading the

> > info, but unfortunately these people must be thinking that anyone who

> > visits has Einstein-ian qualities of comprehension.

> >

> > Forever in your debt for any help.

> >

> > Leonie the not-so-intelligent

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

I liked the cartoon analogy too! You certainly may use it, but I don't

think I'm authorized to say that - am I? - lol! I just copied it from

the web page.

I hope you have a wonderful trip ... but I also wish you & Mike would

hurry back. I will miss your posts. You and Mike are poster children

for AP therapy! I can't get over how you were bedridden for 8 mos, and

now look at you!

Amy

mike rosner wrote:

>

> I loved this cartoonish explanation. Brought a vision of keystone Kops

> chasing the bad guys.

> May use this explanation in my book with your permission. It is

> genius! Thanks Dolores

>

> Amy <Evanesce@... <mailto:Evanesce%40rcn.com>> wrote:

> Leonie - this was the site that I liked for simplicity ... but keep in

> mind that this is a simplistic explanation (ha):

> http://wehelpwhathurts.homestead.com/immunoinflammatory.html

> <http://wehelpwhathurts.homestead.com/immunoinflammatory.html>

> excerpts:

> *Mycoplasma are the bad guys. Vitamin D25 is a get out of jail card.

> Benicar are the cops and antibiotics are the sharp shooters.

>

> ** " The first step is to take away the get out of jail passes (make sure

> Vitamin D25 levels are not too high). Next, bring in the cops (Benicar)

> to round 'em up "

>

> ** " Unless you have a severe immune disease such as Sarcoid, there is

> usually not much of a fight when the mycoplasma are corralled by the

> Benicar cops. If there is a brawl, just bring in more cops " .

>

> ** " Depending upon your individual conditions, expect to be on both

> Benicar and an antibiotic for at least 3 -- 6 months. Blood levels will

> be taken periodically to assess how many mycoplasma have been killed "

>

> Amy

>

[Guest guest]

One thing that has always puzzled me about the MP is that so many people

with rheumatic diseases feel better in the summer--a time when they are

exposed to more sunlight and therefore more natural vitamin D produced by

our bodies in response to the sun. If the MP is correct about Vitamin D,

how can this be explained?

Re: rheumatic Heeeeelp! - about the marshall protocol

Leonie - this was the site that I liked for simplicity ... but keep in

mind that this is a simplistic explanation (ha):

http://wehelpwhathurts.homestead.com/immunoinflammatory.html

excerpts:

*Mycoplasma are the bad guys. Vitamin D25 is a get out of jail card.

Benicar are the cops and antibiotics are the sharp shooters.

** " The first step is to take away the get out of jail passes (make sure

Vitamin D25 levels are not too high). Next, bring in the cops (Benicar)

to round 'em up "

** " Unless you have a severe immune disease such as Sarcoid, there is

usually not much of a fight when the mycoplasma are corralled by the

Benicar cops. If there is a brawl, just bring in more cops " .

** " Depending upon your individual conditions, expect to be on both

Benicar and an antibiotic for at least 3 -- 6 months. Blood levels will

be taken periodically to assess how many mycoplasma have been killed "

Amy

*leonie cent wrote:

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> Can anyone out there explain or summarise what the marshall protocol

> is all about, in layman's terms - you know ? ... in the style a dummy

> like me could understand ! What's the deal with vitamin D - how about

> all the info that's coming out these days about D deficiency being

> linked to cancer etc ? I tried looking up the website and reading the

> info, but unfortunately these people must be thinking that anyone who

> visits has Einstein-ian qualities of comprehension.

>

> Forever in your debt for any help.

>

> Leonie the not-so-intelligent

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,that is an easy one.Since they now know that D works like a

steroid of course we feel wonderful.It works pretty well like prednisone

..Right now I would do anything to get away from this Montreal winter and

lay in the sun. AHHHHHHHHH bliss. Lynne

Ken and wrote:

> One thing that has always puzzled me about the MP is that so many people

> with rheumatic diseases feel better in the summer--a time when they are

> exposed to more sunlight and therefore more natural vitamin D produced by

> our bodies in response to the sun. If the MP is correct about Vitamin D,

> how can this be explained?

>

>

> Re: rheumatic Heeeeelp! - about the marshall protocol

>

> Leonie - this was the site that I liked for simplicity ... but keep in

> mind that this is a simplistic explanation (ha):

> http://wehelpwhathurts.homestead.com/immunoinflammatory.html

> <http://wehelpwhathurts.homestead.com/immunoinflammatory.html>

> excerpts:

> *Mycoplasma are the bad guys. Vitamin D25 is a get out of jail card.

> Benicar are the cops and antibiotics are the sharp shooters.

>

> ** " The first step is to take away the get out of jail passes (make sure

> Vitamin D25 levels are not too high). Next, bring in the cops (Benicar)

> to round 'em up "

>

> ** " Unless you have a severe immune disease such as Sarcoid, there is

> usually not much of a fight when the mycoplasma are corralled by the

> Benicar cops. If there is a brawl, just bring in more cops " .

>

> ** " Depending upon your individual conditions, expect to be on both

> Benicar and an antibiotic for at least 3 -- 6 months. Blood levels will

> be taken periodically to assess how many mycoplasma have been killed "

>

> Amy

>

> *leonie cent wrote:

> >

> > Hello everyone,

> >

> > Can anyone out there explain or summarise what the marshall protocol

> > is all about, in layman's terms - you know ? ... in the style a dummy

> > like me could understand ! What's the deal with vitamin D - how about

> > all the info that's coming out these days about D deficiency being

> > linked to cancer etc ? I tried looking up the website and reading the

> > info, but unfortunately these people must be thinking that anyone who

> > visits has Einstein-ian qualities of comprehension.

> >

> > Forever in your debt for any help.

> >

> > Leonie the not-so-intelligent

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Actually I feel worse in the summer. When it is humid I am soooo achy

and tired. I had my vit D test and it is on the low side of normal. I do

notice if I take the amount my doc wants me to take I get nauseated. I take

the D dots from twin lab. I don't feel any different when taking these. My

ap doc is a real pusher of D.

Cooky

_____

From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On Behalf

Of Ken and

Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 9:39 AM

rheumatic

Subject: Re: rheumatic Heeeeelp! - about the marshall protocol

One thing that has always puzzled me about the MP is that so many people

with rheumatic diseases feel better in the summer--a time when they are

exposed to more sunlight and therefore more natural vitamin D produced by

our bodies in response to the sun. If the MP is correct about Vitamin D,

how can this be explained?

Re: rheumatic Heeeeelp! - about the marshall protocol

Leonie - this was the site that I liked for simplicity ... but keep in

mind that this is a simplistic explanation (ha):

http://wehelpwhathu

<http://wehelpwhathurts.homestead.com/immunoinflammatory.html>

rts.homestead.com/immunoinflammatory.html

excerpts:

*Mycoplasma are the bad guys. Vitamin D25 is a get out of jail card.

Benicar are the cops and antibiotics are the sharp shooters.

** " The first step is to take away the get out of jail passes (make sure

Vitamin D25 levels are not too high). Next, bring in the cops (Benicar)

to round 'em up "

** " Unless you have a severe immune disease such as Sarcoid, there is

usually not much of a fight when the mycoplasma are corralled by the

Benicar cops. If there is a brawl, just bring in more cops " .

** " Depending upon your individual conditions, expect to be on both

Benicar and an antibiotic for at least 3 -- 6 months. Blood levels will

be taken periodically to assess how many mycoplasma have been killed "

Amy

*leonie cent wrote:

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> Can anyone out there explain or summarise what the marshall protocol

> is all about, in layman's terms - you know ? ... in the style a dummy

> like me could understand ! What's the deal with vitamin D - how about

> all the info that's coming out these days about D deficiency being

> linked to cancer etc ? I tried looking up the website and reading the

> info, but unfortunately these people must be thinking that anyone who

> visits has Einstein-ian qualities of comprehension.

>

> Forever in your debt for any help.

>

> Leonie the not-so-intelligent

>

>

[Guest guest]

Cooky, just to clarify, do you feel nauseous with the D dots as well? How

much Vit. D can you take without nausea? Does being out in the sun cause

any side-effects? Recent research is defnitely pushing vit. D--the Vit. D

Council has studies showing it helps RA. Even my GP has gone from

recommending 400 IU to 1000 IU. I'm trying to sort out if the supplements

affect my stomach too although eating good salmon and tuna makes me feel

better. One GI specialist I saw said Vit. D can cause nausea in some

people. It's all so complicated and hard to know what is the right thing

to do

Re: rheumatic Heeeeelp! - about the marshall protocol

Leonie - this was the site that I liked for simplicity ... but keep in

mind that this is a simplistic explanation (ha):

http://wehelpwhathu

<http://wehelpwhathurts.homestead.com/immunoinflammatory.html>

rts.homestead.com/immunoinflammatory.html

excerpts:

*Mycoplasma are the bad guys. Vitamin D25 is a get out of jail card.

Benicar are the cops and antibiotics are the sharp shooters.

** " The first step is to take away the get out of jail passes (make sure

Vitamin D25 levels are not too high). Next, bring in the cops (Benicar)

to round 'em up "

** " Unless you have a severe immune disease such as Sarcoid, there is

usually not much of a fight when the mycoplasma are corralled by the

Benicar cops. If there is a brawl, just bring in more cops " .

** " Depending upon your individual conditions, expect to be on both

Benicar and an antibiotic for at least 3 -- 6 months. Blood levels will

be taken periodically to assess how many mycoplasma have been killed "

Amy

*leonie cent wrote:

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> Can anyone out there explain or summarise what the marshall protocol

> is all about, in layman's terms - you know ? ... in the style a dummy

> like me could understand ! What's the deal with vitamin D - how about

> all the info that's coming out these days about D deficiency being

> linked to cancer etc ? I tried looking up the website and reading the

> info, but unfortunately these people must be thinking that anyone who

> visits has Einstein-ian qualities of comprehension.

>

> Forever in your debt for any help.

>

> Leonie the not-so-intelligent

>

>

[Guest guest]

No I don't get nauseated with the D dots. They are 1000 IU. These are vit D3

and K2 . it is so winter here I don't have any idea how the sun

effects me <smirk> anymore. I actually started taking these in December

before that I took regular 400 IU and took 3 and yes I got nauseated. I did

not want to listen to my doc because I thought getting nauseated meant I had

too much<grin>. Anyway these are tangerine flavored and very small. I could

eat the whole bottle like candy.

cooky

_____

From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On Behalf

Of Ken and

Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 12:53 PM

rheumatic

Subject: Re: rheumatic Heeeeelp! - about the marshall protocol

Cooky, just to clarify, do you feel nauseous with the D dots as well? How

much Vit. D can you take without nausea? Does being out in the sun cause

any side-effects? Recent research is defnitely pushing vit. D--the Vit. D

Council has studies showing it helps RA. Even my GP has gone from

recommending 400 IU to 1000 IU. I'm trying to sort out if the supplements

affect my stomach too although eating good salmon and tuna makes me feel

better. One GI specialist I saw said Vit. D can cause nausea in some

people. It's all so complicated and hard to know what is the right thing

to do

Re: rheumatic Heeeeelp! - about the marshall protocol

Leonie - this was the site that I liked for simplicity ... but keep in

mind that this is a simplistic explanation (ha):

http://wehelpwhathu

<http://wehelpwhathu

<http://wehelpwhathurts.homestead.com/immunoinflammatory.html>

rts.homestead.com/immunoinflammatory.html>

rts.homestead.com/immunoinflammatory.html

excerpts:

*Mycoplasma are the bad guys. Vitamin D25 is a get out of jail card.

Benicar are the cops and antibiotics are the sharp shooters.

** " The first step is to take away the get out of jail passes (make sure

Vitamin D25 levels are not too high). Next, bring in the cops (Benicar)

to round 'em up "

** " Unless you have a severe immune disease such as Sarcoid, there is

usually not much of a fight when the mycoplasma are corralled by the

Benicar cops. If there is a brawl, just bring in more cops " .

** " Depending upon your individual conditions, expect to be on both

Benicar and an antibiotic for at least 3 -- 6 months. Blood levels will

be taken periodically to assess how many mycoplasma have been killed "

Amy

*leonie cent wrote:

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> Can anyone out there explain or summarise what the marshall protocol

> is all about, in layman's terms - you know ? ... in the style a dummy

> like me could understand ! What's the deal with vitamin D - how about

> all the info that's coming out these days about D deficiency being

> linked to cancer etc ? I tried looking up the website and reading the

> info, but unfortunately these people must be thinking that anyone who

> visits has Einstein-ian qualities of comprehension.

>

> Forever in your debt for any help.

>

> Leonie the not-so-intelligent

>

>