Re: New Intro

[Guest guest]

Hi Darla,

Just from your history it looks like you have a reverse T3 problem. And looking

at your labs, I can see that not only is your RT3 way over the top, your ratio

is pretty bad (I *think* it's 11.6 - but someone needs to check my math).

Here's a terrific little website created by one of the mods here. It will answer

some of your questions and give you a running start at this:

http://thyroid-rt3.com/index.htm

On your next blood draw, you should ask for a ferritin test. Ferritin is

necessary for your body to use T3, and should be between 70 and 90.. It might be

nice to look at your B12, too.

Your vitamin D is very, very low and needs to come way up (60s - 70s at least).

Vitamin D3 is the supplement to take, start with at least 5,000 iu per day

(someone correct me).

Welcome to the forum!

Pam

>

> Hi. Darla from the Natural Thyroid yahoo group gave me your link.

>

> Brief history: Diagnosed hypothyroid, hashi, goiter 8-1/2 years ago. Put on

112 mcg Synthroid during those years, never felt better (hypo symptoms) but

doctors wouldn't change anything, listen, etc. My T4 was mid-range normal, T3

low range normal during that time but still felt hypo.

>

> Then a couple months ago, I found a new doc. He added 2 grains of compounded

Armour and kept me on the Synthroid until new labs were drawn. I had wanted off

Synthroid but he wanted to see what labs showed first. I have most of the lab

results (not all in yet). Here they are:

>

> Free T3: 6.15 (2.32-6.09 range)

> Free T4: 1.83 (0.09-2.35 range)

> TSH: 0.3

> Reverse T3: 53 (11-32 range)

> Saturated Iron: 24 (20-55 range)

> IBC: 353 (260-400 range)

> Iron: 85 (37-170 range)

> Vitamin D: 30 (25-80 range)

>

> Don't have labs for antibodies for hashi, cortisol yet.

>

> I was having chest pain and anxiety a few weeks ago until I changed the

schedule of my meds (divided up Synthroid into 2 doses instead of 1) and did ok

for a little while but the last few days I have been jittery and nauseous.

>

> Based on these labs, I appear to have a RT3 problem? Reverse T3 is new to me

so I'm still learning what I can about it. My doc is away at a seminar and my

appt isn't for a couple weeks yet. Until then, I think I want to reduce or cut

out the Synthroid completely until I see him and stick to compounded armour

until I can talk to him about just T3 when he gets back or at my appointment.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, my name is . Sorry, I forgot to put that in my intro post. Darla

from the Natural Thyroid group sent me here:)

11.6 is right because Darla gave me that too.

Ferritin was on the lab to be tested but they didn't give me those results. I'm

going to have to find out if they forgot to draw/test or they just didn't give

me those results. I know it was low on a previous blood test (11.2 with a range

of 6-115).

I was taking Vitamin D and I really expected my D to be better on this test but

it actually decreased even though I started supplementing. I'll be increasing

my dose...wasn't taking enough obviously.

Thanks for responding and for the welcome! I appreciate all the info. I can

get.

> >

> > Hi. Darla from the Natural Thyroid yahoo group gave me your link.

> >

> > Brief history: Diagnosed hypothyroid, hashi, goiter 8-1/2 years ago. Put

on 112 mcg Synthroid during those years, never felt better (hypo symptoms) but

doctors wouldn't change anything, listen, etc. My T4 was mid-range normal, T3

low range normal during that time but still felt hypo.

> >

> > Then a couple months ago, I found a new doc. He added 2 grains of

compounded Armour and kept me on the Synthroid until new labs were drawn. I had

wanted off Synthroid but he wanted to see what labs showed first. I have most

of the lab results (not all in yet). Here they are:

> >

> > Free T3: 6.15 (2.32-6.09 range)

> > Free T4: 1.83 (0.09-2.35 range)

> > TSH: 0.3

> > Reverse T3: 53 (11-32 range)

> > Saturated Iron: 24 (20-55 range)

> > IBC: 353 (260-400 range)

> > Iron: 85 (37-170 range)

> > Vitamin D: 30 (25-80 range)

> >

> > Don't have labs for antibodies for hashi, cortisol yet.

> >

> > I was having chest pain and anxiety a few weeks ago until I changed the

schedule of my meds (divided up Synthroid into 2 doses instead of 1) and did ok

for a little while but the last few days I have been jittery and nauseous.

> >

> > Based on these labs, I appear to have a RT3 problem? Reverse T3 is new to

me so I'm still learning what I can about it. My doc is away at a seminar and

my appt isn't for a couple weeks yet. Until then, I think I want to reduce or

cut out the Synthroid completely until I see him and stick to compounded armour

until I can talk to him about just T3 when he gets back or at my appointment.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, my name is . Sorry, I forgot to put that in my intro post. Darla

from the Natural Thyroid group sent me here:)

11.6 is right because Darla gave me that too.

Ferritin was on the lab to be tested but they didn't give me those results. I'm

going to have to find out if they forgot to draw/test or they just didn't give

me those results. I know it was low on a previous blood test (11.2 with a range

of 6-115).

I was taking Vitamin D and I really expected my D to be better on this test but

it actually decreased even though I started supplementing. I'll be increasing

my dose...wasn't taking enough obviously.

Thanks for responding and for the welcome! I appreciate all the info. I can

get.

> >

> > Hi. Darla from the Natural Thyroid yahoo group gave me your link.

> >

> > Brief history: Diagnosed hypothyroid, hashi, goiter 8-1/2 years ago. Put

on 112 mcg Synthroid during those years, never felt better (hypo symptoms) but

doctors wouldn't change anything, listen, etc. My T4 was mid-range normal, T3

low range normal during that time but still felt hypo.

> >

> > Then a couple months ago, I found a new doc. He added 2 grains of

compounded Armour and kept me on the Synthroid until new labs were drawn. I had

wanted off Synthroid but he wanted to see what labs showed first. I have most

of the lab results (not all in yet). Here they are:

> >

> > Free T3: 6.15 (2.32-6.09 range)

> > Free T4: 1.83 (0.09-2.35 range)

> > TSH: 0.3

> > Reverse T3: 53 (11-32 range)

> > Saturated Iron: 24 (20-55 range)

> > IBC: 353 (260-400 range)

> > Iron: 85 (37-170 range)

> > Vitamin D: 30 (25-80 range)

> >

> > Don't have labs for antibodies for hashi, cortisol yet.

> >

> > I was having chest pain and anxiety a few weeks ago until I changed the

schedule of my meds (divided up Synthroid into 2 doses instead of 1) and did ok

for a little while but the last few days I have been jittery and nauseous.

> >

> > Based on these labs, I appear to have a RT3 problem? Reverse T3 is new to

me so I'm still learning what I can about it. My doc is away at a seminar and

my appt isn't for a couple weeks yet. Until then, I think I want to reduce or

cut out the Synthroid completely until I see him and stick to compounded armour

until I can talk to him about just T3 when he gets back or at my appointment.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Goody, I got the ratio right! How long ago was that ferritin test, the one where

if was 11.2? That is obscenely low. It takes a long time to get ferritin up.

Again, it needs to be at least 50 before you can do much with T3, and is best

between 70 and 90.

Pam

> > >

> > > Hi. Darla from the Natural Thyroid yahoo group gave me your link.

> > >

> > > Brief history: Diagnosed hypothyroid, hashi, goiter 8-1/2 years ago. Put

on 112 mcg Synthroid during those years, never felt better (hypo symptoms) but

doctors wouldn't change anything, listen, etc. My T4 was mid-range normal, T3

low range normal during that time but still felt hypo.

> > >

> > > Then a couple months ago, I found a new doc. He added 2 grains of

compounded Armour and kept me on the Synthroid until new labs were drawn. I had

wanted off Synthroid but he wanted to see what labs showed first. I have most

of the lab results (not all in yet). Here they are:

> > >

> > > Free T3: 6.15 (2.32-6.09 range)

> > > Free T4: 1.83 (0.09-2.35 range)

> > > TSH: 0.3

> > > Reverse T3: 53 (11-32 range)

> > > Saturated Iron: 24 (20-55 range)

> > > IBC: 353 (260-400 range)

> > > Iron: 85 (37-170 range)

> > > Vitamin D: 30 (25-80 range)

> > >

> > > Don't have labs for antibodies for hashi, cortisol yet.

> > >

> > > I was having chest pain and anxiety a few weeks ago until I changed the

schedule of my meds (divided up Synthroid into 2 doses instead of 1) and did ok

for a little while but the last few days I have been jittery and nauseous.

> > >

> > > Based on these labs, I appear to have a RT3 problem? Reverse T3 is new to

me so I'm still learning what I can about it. My doc is away at a seminar and

my appt isn't for a couple weeks yet. Until then, I think I want to reduce or

cut out the Synthroid completely until I see him and stick to compounded armour

until I can talk to him about just T3 when he gets back or at my appointment.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Free T3: 6.15 (2.32-6.09 range)

> > Free T4: 1.83 (0.09-2.35 range)

> > TSH: 0.3

> > Reverse T3: 53 (11-32 range)

> > Saturated Iron: 24 (20-55 range)

> > IBC: 353 (260-400 range)

> > Iron: 85 (37-170 range)

> > Vitamin D: 30 (25-80 range)

Well this doctor has you over medicated on thyroid, mainly T4 so you shoudl stop

the SYnthroid, and also the Natural thyroid which is MAINLY T4 and go to all T3.

But with your iron labs toyou DO need iron. Even wihtout seeing your Ferriitn I

can tell you need iron from thise labs. It took me going ot 10,000iu Vitamin D

for a YEAR to bring my vitamin D up from 20 to 80. SO increase it up enough and

it will come up a bit faster.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

[Guest guest]

That's what I figured as well. The doc increased the compounded armour four

weeks ago from one grain/day to two/day because I wasn't feeling any difference,

but it pushed me over the top (headaches, jittery, anxious). The intention was

to get off Synthroid completely but he wanted to see these labs first. Now that

he'll be able to see the RT3 problem, everything changes for awhile. Hopefully,

he'll be back in town before we leave on vacation next week to get started on

straight T3.

>

> Free T3: 6.15 (2.32-6.09 range)

> > > Free T4: 1.83 (0.09-2.35 range)

> > > TSH: 0.3

> > > Reverse T3: 53 (11-32 range)

> > > Saturated Iron: 24 (20-55 range)

> > > IBC: 353 (260-400 range)

> > > Iron: 85 (37-170 range)

> > > Vitamin D: 30 (25-80 range)

>

> Well this doctor has you over medicated on thyroid, mainly T4 so you shoudl

stop the SYnthroid, and also the Natural thyroid which is MAINLY T4 and go to

all T3. But with your iron labs toyou DO need iron. Even wihtout seeing your

Ferriitn I can tell you need iron from thise labs. It took me going ot 10,000iu

Vitamin D for a YEAR to bring my vitamin D up from 20 to 80. SO increase it up

enough and it will come up a bit faster.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

>

[Guest guest]

That ferritin was last summer. The endocrinologist who took it at the time

wasn't concerned with it at all (or any of the other tests). He got fired after

the first visit. He was talking about removing my thyroid before he even

examined me. It took me awhile to find this new doc who agreed that last year's

labs were a problem. I've just started with the new doc and I'm glad to see

he's willing to see and treat things that the rest of my docs wouldn't.

> > > >

> > > > Hi. Darla from the Natural Thyroid yahoo group gave me your link.

> > > >

> > > > Brief history: Diagnosed hypothyroid, hashi, goiter 8-1/2 years ago.

Put on 112 mcg Synthroid during those years, never felt better (hypo symptoms)

but doctors wouldn't change anything, listen, etc. My T4 was mid-range normal,

T3 low range normal during that time but still felt hypo.

> > > >

> > > > Then a couple months ago, I found a new doc. He added 2 grains of

compounded Armour and kept me on the Synthroid until new labs were drawn. I had

wanted off Synthroid but he wanted to see what labs showed first. I have most

of the lab results (not all in yet). Here they are:

> > > >

> > > > Free T3: 6.15 (2.32-6.09 range)

> > > > Free T4: 1.83 (0.09-2.35 range)

> > > > TSH: 0.3

> > > > Reverse T3: 53 (11-32 range)

> > > > Saturated Iron: 24 (20-55 range)

> > > > IBC: 353 (260-400 range)

> > > > Iron: 85 (37-170 range)

> > > > Vitamin D: 30 (25-80 range)

> > > >

> > > > Don't have labs for antibodies for hashi, cortisol yet.

> > > >

> > > > I was having chest pain and anxiety a few weeks ago until I changed the

schedule of my meds (divided up Synthroid into 2 doses instead of 1) and did ok

for a little while but the last few days I have been jittery and nauseous.

> > > >

> > > > Based on these labs, I appear to have a RT3 problem? Reverse T3 is new

to me so I'm still learning what I can about it. My doc is away at a seminar

and my appt isn't for a couple weeks yet. Until then, I think I want to reduce

or cut out the Synthroid completely until I see him and stick to compounded

armour until I can talk to him about just T3 when he gets back or at my

appointment.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

That ferritin was last summer. The endocrinologist who took it at the time

wasn't concerned with it at all (or any of the other tests). He got fired after

the first visit. He was talking about removing my thyroid before he even

examined me. It took me awhile to find this new doc who agreed that last year's

labs were a problem. I've just started with the new doc and I'm glad to see

he's willing to see and treat things that the rest of my docs wouldn't.

> > > >

> > > > Hi. Darla from the Natural Thyroid yahoo group gave me your link.

> > > >

> > > > Brief history: Diagnosed hypothyroid, hashi, goiter 8-1/2 years ago.

Put on 112 mcg Synthroid during those years, never felt better (hypo symptoms)

but doctors wouldn't change anything, listen, etc. My T4 was mid-range normal,

T3 low range normal during that time but still felt hypo.

> > > >

> > > > Then a couple months ago, I found a new doc. He added 2 grains of

compounded Armour and kept me on the Synthroid until new labs were drawn. I had

wanted off Synthroid but he wanted to see what labs showed first. I have most

of the lab results (not all in yet). Here they are:

> > > >

> > > > Free T3: 6.15 (2.32-6.09 range)

> > > > Free T4: 1.83 (0.09-2.35 range)

> > > > TSH: 0.3

> > > > Reverse T3: 53 (11-32 range)

> > > > Saturated Iron: 24 (20-55 range)

> > > > IBC: 353 (260-400 range)

> > > > Iron: 85 (37-170 range)

> > > > Vitamin D: 30 (25-80 range)

> > > >

> > > > Don't have labs for antibodies for hashi, cortisol yet.

> > > >

> > > > I was having chest pain and anxiety a few weeks ago until I changed the

schedule of my meds (divided up Synthroid into 2 doses instead of 1) and did ok

for a little while but the last few days I have been jittery and nauseous.

> > > >

> > > > Based on these labs, I appear to have a RT3 problem? Reverse T3 is new

to me so I'm still learning what I can about it. My doc is away at a seminar

and my appt isn't for a couple weeks yet. Until then, I think I want to reduce

or cut out the Synthroid completely until I see him and stick to compounded

armour until I can talk to him about just T3 when he gets back or at my

appointment.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>