animal fats and EFA's (was: Re: Is pasteurized milk really bad?)

[Guest guest]

> also feel that the emphasis on animal fats, to the near exclusion

of essential fatty

> acids, makes it potentially dangerous for mothers to read this

book.

Just a couple small notes here:

1. animal fats are not deficient in EFA's. Check out eatwild.com -

its only grain feeding in feedlots that lowers EFA content.

2. EFA's are better absorbed when consumed with saturated fat

3. I have no idea which EFA's play a role in lactation, but animal

fats contain the long chain omega-3's and the bodies conversion rate

from LNA to EPA/DHA is horrible (that delta-6 desaturase has probably

done in many vegans!) I have one study that shows a 6% and 4%

conversion rate for EPA and DHA, and another that finds that only

0.2% of plasma LNA ends up as EPA or DHA.

Criticism works both ways - NT is right about more than just

cholesterol! Taken together, these are a compelling argument to

consume animal fats from grassfed animals to maintain a healthy EFA

status. The references for those statements are in my literature

review on cholesterol that I posted here. I can repost them for the

email readers if anyone likes.

[Guest guest]

, this is true, but somehow NT has gotten the reputation of supporting

the meat industry. Sometimes, statements have to be repeated often to get

through--especially if the reader is a mother of young children, and even

moreso if she recently has given birth. The analytical mind shuts down, along

with short-term memory, for many women after childbirth, continuing for a few

years often.....allows us to 'meet our kids' on their own level I guess

(trying to see the positive). So anytime a statement is made that regards

diet for pregnant women, babies or young children, there has to be a re-cap

to bring it into perspective for this special audience. Somewhere there is a

statement in NT...towards the end of the first explanatory chapters...where

Fallon writes that young children need plenty of animal fats. I think mothers

could easily pick out statements like this and take it in a wrong

direction... and most readers cannot easily locate grass-fed meat and raw

milk, and many do not have the finances for it.

Or am I mistaken on this?

justinbond schrieb:

>

> > Still though, I must say that most people do not have grass-fed

> animal fats

> > available. The statements in NT would do well to be qualified to

> make clear

> > to mothers the importance of either grass-fed animals or fish-oil

> for the

> > linolenic acids when pregnant and breastfeeding.

>

> Eating grassfed is 90% of NT! Most of the questions new members to

> the list have is " I just bought NT and really love it - where do I

> get grassfed [milk/butter/meat]? " And they do recommened a cod liver

> oil supplement.

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[Guest guest]

--- son <hjacobson@...> wrote:

> Also, it would be interesting to know more--I have

> read that the wild animals

> eaten by traditional peoples were more lean than our

> farm-raised animals.

The meat itself may be less marbled with fat, but most

species store fat subcutaneously and/or in deposits in

the body cavity, and I believe the fat was prized and

sought out by the humans eating those animals. So, a

hunk of muscle meat may have been lean, but the animal

as a whole would have had a generous amount of fat

unless it was at the end of a harsh season. Native

peoples were not likely to discard those fatty areas

of the carcass as do modern humans, rather they would

consume all of it they possibly could, and in fact

even cracked open the long bones to get to the fatty

marrow.

Aubin

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[Guest guest]

Hello!

>The analytical mind shuts down, along

>with short-term memory, for many women after childbirth, continuing for a few

>years often.....allows us to 'meet our kids' on their own level I guess

>(trying to see the positive). So anytime a statement is made that regards

>diet for pregnant women, babies or young children, there has to be a re-cap

>to bring it into perspective for this special audience.

WHAT?!?!? Where is this coming from? I have never met a

pregnant/post-delivery mother whose analytical abilities were reduced, nor

have I seen any research saying anything of the sort. I resent a comment

that implies that they have " special " needs and reduced mental

capacity. Not to mention that you don't need to meet kids on their level,

but bring them up to yours. Permanent baby speak is a great way to raise a

very stupid child!

Ramit

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