Cortisol levels very unstable - High or Low

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I have Grave's disease and I believe this is when my adrenals first began to

be sluggish, but I am not sure.

From June 2006 to July 2007, I had four eye surgeries for thyroid eye disease

and am sure this didn't help the adrenals any either.Â

Last year's and this year's labs are below. The most recent Cortisol levels

really have me confused as to whether they are high or low. I am not sure if I

need HC and/or PS. I had been on 20 mgs of HC for approx 2 months and had

stopped it completely for two weeks prior to having he saliva testing.

I definitely have some of the symptoms of adrenal fatigue, i.e. not sleeping

well, up until 2 - 3:00 am, nausea, fatigue, unable to lose weight, & weight

gain through midsection. As my labs show, the Ft3 is and has been high. I am

planning on doing the temperature average, but have been trying to wait until I

get over a sinus infection in case of this affecting temp readings.

My doc keeps reducing my Armour, which I don't feel is the problem here. I had

been on 3 grains of Armour and because of the Ft3, she reduced to 2.5 grains and

then Ft3 came back still high so she reduced again to 2 grains. I did not go

along with this last change and am still taking the 2.5, but I feel like I need

more. The only thing she is will to try regarding the adrenals, is vitamin and

herbal therapy.  I don't think the vitamin & herbal therapy is working by

itself.

Also, doc started me on Reacted Magnesium because I have started having symptoms

of Fibromyalgia - do you know of anything else I can take that might help this

condition? I have read where thyroid levels and adrenal issues can be related

to this condition.

My TPO and TSI antibodies test came back really improved from last year.

Last year TPO was 257 and now is 88 and TSI was 625 and now is 268. I am so

grateful that I am improving - now if I can just get adrenals up and running

full power, I will be so happy.Â

Any help and advise will be greatly appreciated.Â

Vicki

My TPO and TSI antibodies test came back really improved from last year.

Last year TPO was 257 and now is 88 and TSI was 625 and now is 268. I am so

grateful that I am improving - now if I can just get adrenals up and running

full power, I will be so happy.Â

Any help and advise will be greatly appreciated.Â

Vicki

I am currently taking:

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Cortico B5B6

Vit C 3000 mgs

Vit D3

B-Complex

B-12

Calcium

Reacted Magnesium

20 mgs HC

2.5Â grains Armour

5mgs DHEA

Progesterone Cream (prescribed by doc)

Estrogen Compound (prescribed by doc)Â

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Oct 2007 Most Recent labs:

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Vit D3 - 48 (20-100) ---last year was 15

TSHÂ - 0.01 ------has always been suppressed on Armour but not Synthroid

Ft3 -Â 7.59 (2.4 - 4.4) ---- 6 mths prior was 4.1 while on HC

Ft4 -Â 1.60Â (0.8-1.8)Â ---- 6 mths prior was 1.11 while on HC

TPO -Â 88.10Â (0.0 - 34.9) ---last year was 257

TSI -Â 268%Â (0 - 129%) ----last year was 625

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2006 Dec Saliva results:

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DHEA - 63.50 (300 – 500)

Cortisol: 8:00 am – 3.10 (7.0 – 10.0)

               12:00 pm - 2.7 (3.0-6.0)

                6:00 pm  - 1.9 (2.0-4.0)

               11:00 pm - 2.3 (<1.5)

Progesterone:Â 0.04Â (0.2-0.5)

 Estradiol: 2.9 (1.0-3.0) menopaus

Dec 2007 saliva results:

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DHEAÂ - 168.20 (200-400)

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Cortisol: 8:00 am – 4.7 (7.0 – 10.0)

               12:00 pm - 6.8 (3.0-6.0)

                6:00 pm  - 2.2 (2.0-4.0)

               11:00 pm - 3.5 (<1.5)

Progesterone:Â 1.403Â (0.2-0.5)

Estradiol:Â 9.0Â (1.0-2.0) menopause

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I included them with my original email, but some reason the email

came through all jumbled. Here are my labs:

I am currently taking:

Cortico B5B6

Vit C 3000 mgs

Vit D3

B-Complex

B-12

Calcium

Reacted Magnesium

20 mgs HC

180 grains Armour

5mgs DHEA

Progesterone Cream

Also, doc started me on Reacted Magnesium because I have started

having symptoms of Fibromyalgia - do you know of anything else I can

take that might help this condition?

I am currently taking:

Cortico B5B6

Vit C 3000 mgs

Vit D3

B-Complex

B-12

Calcium

Reacted Magnesium

20 mgs HC

180 grains Armour

5mgs DHEA

Progesterone Cream (doc prescribed)

Estrogen Compound (doc prescribed)

Oct 2007 Recent labs:

Vit D3 - 48 (20-100) ---last year was 15

TSH - 0.01 ------has always been suppressed on Armour but not

Synthroid

Ft3 - 7.59 (2.4 - 4.4) ---- 6 mths prior was 4.1 while on HC

Ft4 - 1.60 (0.8-1.8) ---- 6 mths prior was 1.11 while on HC

TPO - 88.10 (0.0 - 34.9) ---last year was 257

TSI - 268% (0 - 129%) ----last year was 625

Dec 2007 Saliva results:

DHEA - 63.50 (300 – 500)

Cortisol: 8:00 am – 3.10 (7.0 – 10.0)

12:00 pm - 2.7 (3.0-6.0)

6:00 pm - 1.9 (2.0-4.0)

11:00 pm - 2.3 (<1.5)

Progesterone: 0.04 (0.2-0.5)

Estradiol: 2.9 (1.0-2.0) menopausal

Dec 2007 saliva results:

DHEA - 168.20 (200-400)

Cortisol: 8:00 am – 4.7 (7.0 – 10.0)

12:00 pm - 6.8 (3.0-6.0)

6:00 pm - 2.2 (2.0-4.0)

11:00 pm - 3.5 (<1.5)

Progesterone: 1.403 (0.2-0.5)

Estradiol: 9.0 (1.0-2.0)menopaus

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> Have you done adrenal saliva testign? Thsi will clarify what ois

going

> on wiht your adrenals. If you post the results here iwht ranges we

can

> help with what oyu need ot help them.

>

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>

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>

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DHEA - 168.20 (200-400)

Cortisol: 8:00 am – 4.7 (7.0 – 10.0)

12:00 pm - 6.8 (3.0-6.0)

6:00 pm - 2.2 (2.0-4.0)

11:00 pm - 3.5 (<1.5)

Progesterone: 1.403 (0.2-0.5)

Estradiol: 9.0 (1.0-2.0)menopaus

Yes oyu need HC. The reason the noon level is high is a rebound effect form high

ACTH caused by the way too low AM cortiosl. But then you run out again at 6PM

and then it is swinging too high at night due ot thta, To correct this you need

to get ENOUGH cortiosl in the AM which will stop the swinging effects. Your high

estrogen confirms overall low coritosl.

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What is " reacted Magnesium " and can you get it online? Your cortisol is way too

low 2 times out of 4 (used to be 3 out of 4) and your DHEA super low too. You

definitely do not want PS in my opinion but want to up your cortisol to get a

decent rhythm.

Cheri

Cortisol levels very unstable - High or Low

Also, doc started me on Reacted Magnesium because I have started having

symptoms of Fibromyalgia - do you know of anything else I can take that might

help this condition? I have read where thyroid levels and adrenal issues can be

related to this condition.

Vicki

I am currently taking:

Reacted Magnesium

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[Guest guest]

Yes, you can by it online. I get it from my doctor's office and take

500 mgs at bedtime. It really has helped me.

Vicki

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> What is " reacted Magnesium " and can you get it online? Your

cortisol is way too low 2 times out of 4 (used to be 3 out of 4) and

your DHEA super low too. You definitely do not want PS in my opinion

but want to up your cortisol to get a decent rhythm.

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> Cheri

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> Also, doc started me on Reacted Magnesium because I have started

having symptoms of Fibromyalgia - do you know of anything else I can

take that might help this condition? I have read where thyroid

levels and adrenal issues can be related to this condition.

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> Vicki

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