Re: Val, getting my IV iron tomorrow, need help dosing T3, as we planned

[Guest guest]

Carol you are way beyond my experience here. But let me say this so all

reading can see it, It si DANGEROUS to just STOP T3 when you have been

on it long enough to fully supress T4. There si NO back up and as we all

klnow T4 takes a WHILE (6-8weeks) to build up and be converted and start

workign. That is TOO long to be thta low in thyroid. It sounds liek you

have a brain that is T3 starved even ON T3, so you need ot look into the

transporter system for T3 which si thansthyrethrin and albumin. You need

a really good doctor that understands these issues . It i sOVER my head,

and I dontl often say that. I would say you are doing the best for

yourself that can be done and simply try to increase it as yo can

tolerate it.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

[Guest guest]

Hard to describe how sad I was to get your post.

It was only for ONE DAY that I was off because I was having such a reaction to

even 2.5mcg of T3. (I posted what I planned to do, but went ahead and did it

without a response. Totally bad.) I don't know of a doc who gets all this at

this level. Do you know of one? (If not, I'm totally on my own, if it's beyond

you, and that feels scary as hell to me. I didn't mean for this to happen.) I

thought if I got my iron today, then I can try to start going up on T3. I still

think that might be part of it, as I was having some days that my brain was

feeling a bit better - not great. But since going off T4, it's been bad.

QUESTION: Are you saying I need to be on T4 to build it back up?! I thought the

suppressing it (and TSHO with T3 was part of how the receptors cleared when one

has Rt3 dominance. I thought folks could be fine without T4, which I finally

jumped on board with!

QUESTION: What does looking into the transporter system for T3 (thansthyrethrin

and albumin) entail?

If I was just trying to go up on T3 after the iron infusion, do you have any

thoughts? (I get that the other pieces are over your head, I'm just trying to

get a sense because until I connect with a doc, I'm going to try and get some

more T3 in me!)

Send good thoughts please, folks.

>

> Carol you are way beyond my experience here. But let me say this so all

> reading can see it, It si DANGEROUS to just STOP T3 when you have been

> on it long enough to fully supress T4. There si NO back up and as we all

> klnow T4 takes a WHILE (6-8weeks) to build up and be converted and start

> workign. That is TOO long to be thta low in thyroid. It sounds liek you

> have a brain that is T3 starved even ON T3, so you need ot look into the

> transporter system for T3 which si thansthyrethrin and albumin. You need

> a really good doctor that understands these issues . It i sOVER my head,

> and I dontl often say that. I would say you are doing the best for

> yourself that can be done and simply try to increase it as yo can

> tolerate it.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

>

[Guest guest]

Hard to describe how sad I was to get your post.

It was only for ONE DAY that I was off because I was having such a reaction to

even 2.5mcg of T3. (I posted what I planned to do, but went ahead and did it

without a response. Totally bad.) I don't know of a doc who gets all this at

this level. Do you know of one? (If not, I'm totally on my own, if it's beyond

you, and that feels scary as hell to me. I didn't mean for this to happen.) I

thought if I got my iron today, then I can try to start going up on T3. I still

think that might be part of it, as I was having some days that my brain was

feeling a bit better - not great. But since going off T4, it's been bad.

QUESTION: Are you saying I need to be on T4 to build it back up?! I thought the

suppressing it (and TSHO with T3 was part of how the receptors cleared when one

has Rt3 dominance. I thought folks could be fine without T4, which I finally

jumped on board with!

QUESTION: What does looking into the transporter system for T3 (thansthyrethrin

and albumin) entail?

If I was just trying to go up on T3 after the iron infusion, do you have any

thoughts? (I get that the other pieces are over your head, I'm just trying to

get a sense because until I connect with a doc, I'm going to try and get some

more T3 in me!)

Send good thoughts please, folks.

>

> Carol you are way beyond my experience here. But let me say this so all

> reading can see it, It si DANGEROUS to just STOP T3 when you have been

> on it long enough to fully supress T4. There si NO back up and as we all

> klnow T4 takes a WHILE (6-8weeks) to build up and be converted and start

> workign. That is TOO long to be thta low in thyroid. It sounds liek you

> have a brain that is T3 starved even ON T3, so you need ot look into the

> transporter system for T3 which si thansthyrethrin and albumin. You need

> a really good doctor that understands these issues . It i sOVER my head,

> and I dontl often say that. I would say you are doing the best for

> yourself that can be done and simply try to increase it as yo can

> tolerate it.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

>

[Guest guest]

Hard to describe how sad I was to get your post.

It was only for ONE DAY that I was off because I was having such a reaction to

even 2.5mcg of T3. (I posted what I planned to do, but went ahead and did it

without a response. Totally bad.) I don't know of a doc who gets all this at

this level. Do you know of one? (If not, I'm totally on my own, if it's beyond

you, and that feels scary as hell to me. I didn't mean for this to happen.) I

thought if I got my iron today, then I can try to start going up on T3. I still

think that might be part of it, as I was having some days that my brain was

feeling a bit better - not great. But since going off T4, it's been bad.

QUESTION: Are you saying I need to be on T4 to build it back up?! I thought the

suppressing it (and TSHO with T3 was part of how the receptors cleared when one

has Rt3 dominance. I thought folks could be fine without T4, which I finally

jumped on board with!

QUESTION: What does looking into the transporter system for T3 (thansthyrethrin

and albumin) entail?

If I was just trying to go up on T3 after the iron infusion, do you have any

thoughts? (I get that the other pieces are over your head, I'm just trying to

get a sense because until I connect with a doc, I'm going to try and get some

more T3 in me!)

Send good thoughts please, folks.

>

> Carol you are way beyond my experience here. But let me say this so all

> reading can see it, It si DANGEROUS to just STOP T3 when you have been

> on it long enough to fully supress T4. There si NO back up and as we all

> klnow T4 takes a WHILE (6-8weeks) to build up and be converted and start

> workign. That is TOO long to be thta low in thyroid. It sounds liek you

> have a brain that is T3 starved even ON T3, so you need ot look into the

> transporter system for T3 which si thansthyrethrin and albumin. You need

> a really good doctor that understands these issues . It i sOVER my head,

> and I dontl often say that. I would say you are doing the best for

> yourself that can be done and simply try to increase it as yo can

> tolerate it.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

>

[Guest guest]

(I meant to say " totally MY bad. " 110% my responsibility. Just wanted to make

that abundantly clear! Nothing but major props for the mods and the lists!)

> >

> > Carol you are way beyond my experience here. But let me say this so all

> > reading can see it, It si DANGEROUS to just STOP T3 when you have been

> > on it long enough to fully supress T4. There si NO back up and as we all

> > klnow T4 takes a WHILE (6-8weeks) to build up and be converted and start

> > workign. That is TOO long to be thta low in thyroid. It sounds liek you

> > have a brain that is T3 starved even ON T3, so you need ot look into the

> > transporter system for T3 which si thansthyrethrin and albumin. You need

> > a really good doctor that understands these issues . It i sOVER my head,

> > and I dontl often say that. I would say you are doing the best for

> > yourself that can be done and simply try to increase it as yo can

> > tolerate it.

> >

> > --

> > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

> >

> > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> >

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

> >

>

[Guest guest]

(I meant to say " totally MY bad. " 110% my responsibility. Just wanted to make

that abundantly clear! Nothing but major props for the mods and the lists!)

> >

> > Carol you are way beyond my experience here. But let me say this so all

> > reading can see it, It si DANGEROUS to just STOP T3 when you have been

> > on it long enough to fully supress T4. There si NO back up and as we all

> > klnow T4 takes a WHILE (6-8weeks) to build up and be converted and start

> > workign. That is TOO long to be thta low in thyroid. It sounds liek you

> > have a brain that is T3 starved even ON T3, so you need ot look into the

> > transporter system for T3 which si thansthyrethrin and albumin. You need

> > a really good doctor that understands these issues . It i sOVER my head,

> > and I dontl often say that. I would say you are doing the best for

> > yourself that can be done and simply try to increase it as yo can

> > tolerate it.

> >

> > --

> > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

> >

> > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> >

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

> >

>

[Guest guest]

(I meant to say " totally MY bad. " 110% my responsibility. Just wanted to make

that abundantly clear! Nothing but major props for the mods and the lists!)

> >

> > Carol you are way beyond my experience here. But let me say this so all

> > reading can see it, It si DANGEROUS to just STOP T3 when you have been

> > on it long enough to fully supress T4. There si NO back up and as we all

> > klnow T4 takes a WHILE (6-8weeks) to build up and be converted and start

> > workign. That is TOO long to be thta low in thyroid. It sounds liek you

> > have a brain that is T3 starved even ON T3, so you need ot look into the

> > transporter system for T3 which si thansthyrethrin and albumin. You need

> > a really good doctor that understands these issues . It i sOVER my head,

> > and I dontl often say that. I would say you are doing the best for

> > yourself that can be done and simply try to increase it as yo can

> > tolerate it.

> >

> > --

> > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

> >

> > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> >

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

> >

>

[Guest guest]

You need ot do some searches for Transthyrethrin I can;t as I have too

much work right now or I owuld do it for oyu. If you come up wiht

somehting that sounds close send me the link and i will make time to

read it and try to help interpret it.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

[Guest guest]

You need ot do some searches for Transthyrethrin I can;t as I have too

much work right now or I owuld do it for oyu. If you come up wiht

somehting that sounds close send me the link and i will make time to

read it and try to help interpret it.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

[Guest guest]

You need ot do some searches for Transthyrethrin I can;t as I have too

much work right now or I owuld do it for oyu. If you come up wiht

somehting that sounds close send me the link and i will make time to

read it and try to help interpret it.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

[Guest guest]

The only doctor I have ever heard talk at all about this woudl be

Holtorf an I am not sure how much he knows abotu it.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

[Guest guest]

The only doctor I have ever heard talk at all about this woudl be

Holtorf an I am not sure how much he knows abotu it.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

[Guest guest]

Okay, I will.

fyi, I tolerated old doses of T3 today with NO drop in temp (in fact, temp was a

wee high 98.9 and I felt too warm, but pulse was a good 75!!) and no adrenaline

surge. It was encouraging!! Who knows what tomorrow or three hours from now

will bring, but I STILL believe I can pull through this the way we'd planned,

and maybe I needed some days to get some T3 in me. We'll see! I'll report

back, so don't count me out!!!!! (Though I truly heard what you said loud and

clear, Val.)

I had the iron IV today and I plan to start increasing T3 a bit tomorrow.

Btw, my doc has ordered me some compounded transdermal iron to circumvent the

gut, since I have such a difficult time tolerating iron - major constipation,

which I'll get from the IV, but it's short term, at least. I'm going to wait

for five days and get my ferritin tested again -I think that's enough time. And

if I need more iron, i'll go the transdermal route. I'll be sure to report back

to the list if it's effective, cost, etc.

>

> You need ot do some searches for Transthyrethrin I can;t as I have too

> much work right now or I owuld do it for oyu. If you come up wiht

> somehting that sounds close send me the link and i will make time to

> read it and try to help interpret it.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

>

[Guest guest]

No naming of docs here, but I went to the satellite Holtorf clinic, and I knew

as much as the doc did. (He was a lovely guy, but...) If Holtorf is the only

one, I'm screwed. Time to start researching articles, and like you said, Val,

if I find stuff about the transfer issue, I'll send it to you to help interpret.

(When my brain works, I can read medical stuff well. But, we know my brain is

NOT working. Ha!) Thank you.

>

> The only doctor I have ever heard talk at all about this woudl be

> Holtorf an I am not sure how much he knows abotu it.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

>

[Guest guest]

Carol,

My doc has scheduled 3 iron IV's in a row for me, and said I needed to wait a month to get ferritin retested. He said we need to wait that long because we need to know not only that the IV has raised the ferritin, but that it's stayed up, i.e. that I've held onto it.

Peggy

Re: Val, getting my IV iron tomorrow, need help dosing T3, as we planned

Okay, I will.fyi, I tolerated old doses of T3 today with NO drop in temp (in fact, temp was a wee high 98.9 and I felt too warm, but pulse was a good 75!!) and no adrenaline surge. It was encouraging!! Who knows what tomorrow or three hours from now will bring, but I STILL believe I can pull through this the way we'd planned, and maybe I needed some days to get some T3 in me. We'll see! I'll report back, so don't count me out!!!!! (Though I truly heard what you said loud and clear, Val.) I had the iron IV today and I plan to start increasing T3 a bit tomorrow.Btw, my doc has ordered me some compounded transdermal iron to circumvent the gut, since I have such a difficult time tolerating iron - major constipation, which I'll get from the IV, but it's short term, at least. I'm going to wait for five days and get my ferritin tested again -I think that's enough time. And if I need more iron, i'll go the transdermal route. I'll be sure to report back to the list if it's effective, cost, etc.>> You need ot do some searches for Transthyrethrin I can;t as I have too > much work right now or I owuld do it for oyu. If you come up wiht > somehting that sounds close send me the link and i will make time to > read it and try to help interpret it.> > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV> > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/>

[Guest guest]

Carol,

My doc has scheduled 3 iron IV's in a row for me, and said I needed to wait a month to get ferritin retested. He said we need to wait that long because we need to know not only that the IV has raised the ferritin, but that it's stayed up, i.e. that I've held onto it.

Peggy

Re: Val, getting my IV iron tomorrow, need help dosing T3, as we planned

Okay, I will.fyi, I tolerated old doses of T3 today with NO drop in temp (in fact, temp was a wee high 98.9 and I felt too warm, but pulse was a good 75!!) and no adrenaline surge. It was encouraging!! Who knows what tomorrow or three hours from now will bring, but I STILL believe I can pull through this the way we'd planned, and maybe I needed some days to get some T3 in me. We'll see! I'll report back, so don't count me out!!!!! (Though I truly heard what you said loud and clear, Val.) I had the iron IV today and I plan to start increasing T3 a bit tomorrow.Btw, my doc has ordered me some compounded transdermal iron to circumvent the gut, since I have such a difficult time tolerating iron - major constipation, which I'll get from the IV, but it's short term, at least. I'm going to wait for five days and get my ferritin tested again -I think that's enough time. And if I need more iron, i'll go the transdermal route. I'll be sure to report back to the list if it's effective, cost, etc.>> You need ot do some searches for Transthyrethrin I can;t as I have too > much work right now or I owuld do it for oyu. If you come up wiht > somehting that sounds close send me the link and i will make time to > read it and try to help interpret it.> > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV> > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/>

[Guest guest]

Thanks much, Peggy!

I also need to find out if the one round of IV is enough, so I think I need to

retest before then to make sure I get this ferritin up adequately as soon as I

can. I had 5 IV rounds a while back and it was TOO MUCH, and I don't want to do

that. (Also, it's very expensive and I have to be super judicious in how I

spend my health dollars. I have no health insurance and am barely working and

am single at this point). I couldn't hold it, as well. (probably low T3.)

So, I think I might test in five days.

~ Carol

> >

> > You need ot do some searches for Transthyrethrin I can;t as I have too

> > much work right now or I owuld do it for oyu. If you come up wiht

> > somehting that sounds close send me the link and i will make time to

> > read it and try to help interpret it.

> >

> > --

> > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

> >

> > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks much, Peggy!

I also need to find out if the one round of IV is enough, so I think I need to

retest before then to make sure I get this ferritin up adequately as soon as I

can. I had 5 IV rounds a while back and it was TOO MUCH, and I don't want to do

that. (Also, it's very expensive and I have to be super judicious in how I

spend my health dollars. I have no health insurance and am barely working and

am single at this point). I couldn't hold it, as well. (probably low T3.)

So, I think I might test in five days.

~ Carol

> >

> > You need ot do some searches for Transthyrethrin I can;t as I have too

> > much work right now or I owuld do it for oyu. If you come up wiht

> > somehting that sounds close send me the link and i will make time to

> > read it and try to help interpret it.

> >

> > --

> > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

> >

> > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

> >

>