OT: fish oil

[Guest guest]

I went to the health food store and found their best fish oil supplement to

be capsules by a Dr. Murray. These capsules are kept cold at all times. Has

anyone used this brand? And should all fish oil be kept in the ice box?

Thanks,

Carol*

[Guest guest]

Patrice,

After researching the economics, I have switched from fish oil capsules to

liquid cod liver oil. The brand I'm using is " Carlson " (bottled in Norway).

That was the only bottled cod liver oil carried by my local health food

store. I take 10-12 mL per day, just above two measuring teaspoons. The

taste is bland, somewhat like olive oil.

On a more personal note, thanks to fish oils, the AP, and the use of knee

warmers and shoulder warmers, my RA is in major remission. The only

prescription medicine I am now taking is Minocin, and even there I have cut

down my dosage from 100 mg every day to 100 mg every other day.

Regards, Harald

At 12:59 PM 3/28/03 -0500, you wrote:

>Thank you Harold for your information. Very helpful. What's it taste

>like? What brand do you use?

>Patrice

[Guest guest]

should all fish oil be kept in the ice box? Carol, I am 56 years old and

thought I was the only one who gets caught calling that thing an " ice box "

rather than refrigerator. Sure dates us, doesn't it?

Re: rheumatic OT: fish oil

I went to the health food store and found their best fish oil supplement to

be capsules by a Dr. Murray. These capsules are kept cold at all times. Has

anyone used this brand? And should all fish oil be kept in the ice box?

Thanks,

Carol*

[Guest guest]

If you have taken fish oil for several years, I would appreciate it if you

would write me privately. I'm a little concerned about possible negative

effects and wondering if there should be an occasional break from it.

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

I am about to start taking it, so can you tell us what your concern is? thanks

Lucy

rheumatic OT: fish oil

If you have taken fish oil for several years, I would appreciate it if you

would write me privately. I'm a little concerned about possible negative

effects and wondering if there should be an occasional break from it.

Thanks,

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[Guest guest]

Dear Group,

First of all, fish oil is not OT (off -topic). It is very much

on-topic when it comes to reducing inflammation. One of my earliest

postings to this group was in June 2001 with the subject heading,

" Salmon, the Wonder Food. " It was entirely based on my almost

miraculous experience in pain reduction after eating salmon. At that

time I thought that I had RA. In December 2005, I learned that I

really had polymyalgia rheumatica (PMR).

One of the questions which of often asked what is the amount of fish

oil to be taken. It turns out there are two answers: one amount is as

a food supplement for cardiovascular health; another amount is to

reduce arthritic inflammation.

http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4632

According to the American Heart Association, " Evidence from

prospective secondary prevention studies suggests that taking EPA+DHA

ranging from 0.5 to 1.8 grams per day (either as fatty fish or

supplements) significantly reduces deaths from heart disease and all

causes. " Multiply these weights by 3 to obtain grams of fish oil

needed, or 1.5 to 5.4 grams (which I would round up to 2 to 6 1000-mg

fish oil capsules).

One rule of thumb for RA is 1000 mg (or 1 gram) of fish oil per day

for every 10 lbs of body weight. This means that a 150 lb person with

RA should take 15 1000-mg fish oil capsules, or 3 measuring teaspoons

of fish oil.

The main negative that I find with fish oil is that it is very

nourishing. Each 1000 mg softgel of fish oil will add 10 calories.

For other possible negatives, please see

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/fish-oil/NS_patient-fishoil

I am currently taking four 1000-mg fish oil capsules per day,

Kirkland brand from CostCo.

Sincerely, Harald

At 05:11 PM 12/17/2006, you wrote:

> rheumatic OT: fish oil

>

>If you have taken fish oil for several years, I would appreciate it if you

>would write me privately. I'm a little concerned about possible negative

>effects and wondering if there should be an occasional break from it.

>

>Thanks,

>

[Guest guest]

what do you guys think about FISH OIL vs. FLAX SEED OIL?

rheumatic OT: fish oil

>

>If you have taken fish oil for several years, I would appreciate it if you

>would write me privately. I'm a little concerned about possible negative

>effects and wondering if there should be an occasional break from it.

>

>Thanks,

>

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[Guest guest]

Thank you Harald for that excellent explanation.

Jill

[Guest guest]

Thanks, this was interesting to read. I use the flax seed since follow a

vegetarian diet but I can see that the fish oil might be better for those who

are not.

Maggy

Re: rheumatic OT: fish oil

Dear Group,

Fish oil is better. A brief Google search on the search term FISH OIL

vs. FLAX SEED OIL brings up pages like the following:

http://www.mind1st.co.uk/Flax_Seed_Oil_v_Fish_Oil.asp

" Fish oil contains two omega-3 fatty acids known as eicosapentaenoic

acid (EPA) and docosahexaenoic acid (DHA). Flaxseed oil, on the other

hand, is rich in alpha-linolenic acid, which is the parent fatty acid

to DHA and EPA. Although similar in structure, the benefits of

alpha-linolenic acid, EPA, and DHA are not the same. Your body

converts alpha-linolenic acid rapidly into EPA, and more slowly into

DHA. Roughly 11 grams of alpha-linolenic acid are needed to produce

one gram of DHA and EPA. However, other foods in your diet can easily

put the brakes on this conversion process. A diet that's rich in

trans-fatty fatty acids, for instance, will interfere with the

conversion of alpha-linolenic acid into EPA and DHA. Trans-fatty

acids are found in foods such as cookies, some types of margarine,

chips, cakes, and popcorn. When you see hydrogenated oil on the

ingredients label of a food, there are probably some trans-fatty

acids in there somewhere. "

http://www.omega-3-fish-oil-guide.com/Fish_oil_vs_flax_seed_oil.html

" ...This has led to the fish oil vs flax seed oil debate. You see,

flax seed oil is rich in omega 3's just as fish oils are. So, to

answer the question about flax oil vs fish oil, we need to dig a

little deeper, because there is not always a clear-cut answer...

First, the type of omega 3's vary in each. In flax seed oil, the

omega 3's come in the form of ALA. In fish oils, they come in the

form of DHA and EPA. ALA needs to be converted by the body into DHA

and EPA. This conversion does not always happen easily or smoothly

for people, particularly those people with less than optimal health,

which often includes elderly folk. For this reason, many (including

us here) argue that high quality fish oils are a better source of

omega 3's than flax seed oil because you are getting DHA and EPA

directly without need for conversion. "

Sincerely, Harald

At 09:39 PM 12/17/2006, karsten lee wrote:

>what do you guys think about FISH OIL vs. FLAX SEED OIL?