Re: Hormone Conversions In The Body

March 11, 2010

I have to agree that Val is right on with this one. My DHEA has always tested

very low and my bone density wasn't good, either, and the docs keep trying to

put me on DHEA. Well, I took it and my estrogen went way too high, I started

having estrogen dominance symptoms again (which I haven't had in years since

taking PG) and my testosterone BARELY went up, so I'm using topical testosterone

anyway! I think all that estrogen made me feel even more hypo! Egads, I don't

need that!

I cut the DHEA down to 5 mg, but I think I am just going to stop it all

together. I know studies say it helps with this and that, but I think Val is

right -- the benefits are coming from the testosterone and it doesn't turn into

that with me anyway.

Oh, and 7-Keto turned into estrogen just as much as the regular DHEA! Dr Rind

once told me he didn't believe 7-keto doesn't convert into sex hormones and he's

right, at least with me.

Kathleen

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> Hi All, had to comment on Val's post 36221, my body never converts

pre-hormones properly. I've tried DHEA, 7-Keto DHEA, Pregnenolone, you name

it, none made me better, most did nothing, some made me worse. (One made me

smell really bad! Yuk & LOL!) Only now, thanks to Val, do I understand why

none of them worked - my body did not properly convert ANY of them to the

correct end hormone.

>

> I also converted T4 into harmful RT3 instead of helpful T3. (That's why I'm

in this group, of course.)

>

> You would think the doctor who told me to take all these things would be more

knowledgeable about conversion problems, instead of just selling me tons of

useless supplement$ and prescribing me T4, and then being utterly clueless as to

why they never worked.

>

> Hope this info is useful to others dealing with similar issues.

>

> Val's post

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/message/36221

>

March 12, 2010

This is very interesting! Val, could you explain this to me...

I am on DHEA as well, some months ago when I was on Armour and I started to have

adrenal symptoms my doctor put me on HC (30 mg) and DHEA (15 mg?).

Before starting any thyroid treatment (or adrenal) my testoreno and DHEA were

highish because I have PCOS. Then after thyroid and adreanl testosterone

plumeted (DHEA was not tested), although still within the normal range.

My sex drive plumeted accordingly and it has stayed like that, it just doesn't

exist. This is something alien to me which used to have a " healthy sexual

appetite " . My doctor say he never saw anyone who had less sex drive after

treating thyroid than before ???? But, that's me!

Also, my strogen is usually highish as well (I believe from PCOS as well) and I

do have symptoms of strogen dominance, like painful breasts after ovulation (and

fibrocystis brests which I believe is also related with strogen dominance, but

not sure).

Since I have worse problems than these I haven't insisted much in traying to

improve this, but now I wonder...

I have read somewhere Val saying than HC suplementation lowers testosterone...

How could I address this issue, which tests should I have to see where I am. Is

there a better way to sort out all this thyroid/addrenal/sex hhormones issues???

> >

> > Hi All, had to comment on Val's post 36221, my body never converts

pre-hormones properly. I've tried DHEA, 7-Keto DHEA, Pregnenolone, you name

it, none made me better, most did nothing, some made me worse. (One made me

smell really bad! Yuk & LOL!) Only now, thanks to Val, do I understand why

none of them worked - my body did not properly convert ANY of them to the

correct end hormone.

> >

> > I also converted T4 into harmful RT3 instead of helpful T3. (That's why I'm

in this group, of course.)

> >

> > You would think the doctor who told me to take all these things would be

more knowledgeable about conversion problems, instead of just selling me tons of

useless supplement$ and prescribing me T4, and then being utterly clueless as to

why they never worked.

> >

> > Hope this info is useful to others dealing with similar issues.

> >

> > Val's post

> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/message/36221

> >

>

March 12, 2010