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In a message dated 5/13/2004 10:53:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

annie@... writes:

just picked up my script so I wanted to let you know about the compound

mixture. It is comprised of Dovonex, Ultravate and Aquaphor. The first 2 are

anti-inflammatory, and the third is the stuff you can buy over the counter in

the

skin lotion dept.

HI Annie,

My derm made me a compound of Ultravate, salicylic acid and some type of

coal tar prep. It works the best on the P for me then anything else ever did.

That is too bad about you insurance. I hope everything works out for you.

Janet

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Not in the high desert, but I highly recommend Dr. Wallace in LA.

After 2 years of struggling, he is the one guy who is actually

knowledgeable enough to figure out what is going on with me. From

what I've heard, he's one of the best in the world. He's worth the

trip. I'm in Riverside county, and I have no problem driving out to

see him. He is affiliated with UCLA but works out of cedars-sinai. I

was very very impressed with him. I may be " special " , but he is

immediately starting me on a very aggressive treatment program. I'm

sure he takes each situation differently, but he is the first that

didn't just call me " interesting " or " unusual " and shuffle me around.

Another pretty decent place is Arthritis Center of Riverside.

Personally, I like Dr. Lallande better than Dr. Franco, but that is

just my preference. Both are very good and very knowledgeable...I

just needed a little more expertise than they were able to offer me.

They are also VERY thorough, listen to you and answer questions, and

believe that a combination of traditional and non-traditional

treatments are the best way to treat RA and other autoimmune diseases,

which is what attracted me to them in the first place. Their website

is www.thearthritiscenter.com.

Good luck. Good rheumies are hard to find, I've discovered.

>

> Does anyone know of any good rheumys in southern california, high

> desert area? It seems that most of you are far away but I thought I

> would ask.

>

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The rheumatologist said that long term antibiotics ONLY works in Lyme NOT

Sjogrens and anyone that has gotten better with any rheumatic conditions only

got better because of the placebo affect not because of the antibiotics. And

that long term antibiotics cause problems. The thinking was that if it took

years to get better it was something else. She said if I tried anything it

should be Plaquenil although the other rheumies said it does NOT work for the

dryness just joint pain.And before she didnt offer it to me. Ugh. It was so

frustrating to hear. How can doctors not know the benefits of long term

antibiotics? She said they have an anti inflammatory affect and also

antimicrobial yet didnt rx me. Thats fine I will get rx someplace else. Then I

go to the store and this one milk said it came from a cow that was not given

antibiotics. Ugh. So I guess I am on my own when I begin the protocol soon. As

far as doctors anyway, I have you guys :)

lynneandsantos <lynneandsantos@...> wrote: OH OH I am in

trouble ...a writer and a teacher,YIKES. I never learned

English so forgive my mistakes. Lynne

smoosh215 wrote:

> Dodo,

>

> I like the name too. I have lots of nick names like smoosh in my

> screen name. That evolved from Mish to Mush to Smoosh and even

> Smooshy sometimes. My older sister only calls me smoosh - you can

> imagine the looks when we're out in public. I always thought your

> posts were so well-written. I should've known you were a writer. I

> used to teach writing to 3rd, 4th, & 5th graders before I had my

> kids and went on leave.

>

> I'm fortunate enough to have a great natual food store right down

> the road. I shop there a lot lately and they seem to have

> everything. I'm sure I'll find what I need there.

>

> Congrats with your PCP being so receptive and good luck with the

> book. I'd love to help out any way I can.

>

> Take care,

> Michou

>

>

> > >

> > > > Just wanted to say thanks to Dolores and Lynn for the input. I

> > have

> > > > noticed such a difference since the celiac diagnosis and

> dietary

> > > > changes. My skin has cleared up almost completely and my dry,

> > cracked

> > > > fingers are about 80% better. My energy has increased

> > tremendously as

> > > > well. I still have joint pain and nodules but the swelling has

> > gone

> > > > down some in my fingers and wrists.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks to all for all your help and concern.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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It took me two years to amass a group of doctors willing to placate me. I just

found one who really understands and wants to work with me. Don't give up.

Keep trying. You will find the right doc and keep reading everything. You are

on the right track. But you will need a doc eventually and get started on the

A/P. It was my saving grace. Dolores

Vicki <genuinelysweet2002@...> wrote: The rheumatologist said

that long term antibiotics ONLY works in Lyme NOT Sjogrens and anyone that has

gotten better with any rheumatic conditions only got better because of the

placebo affect not because of the antibiotics. And that long term antibiotics

cause problems. The thinking was that if it took years to get better it was

something else. She said if I tried anything it should be Plaquenil although the

other rheumies said it does NOT work for the dryness just joint pain.And before

she didnt offer it to me. Ugh. It was so frustrating to hear. How can doctors

not know the benefits of long term antibiotics? She said they have an anti

inflammatory affect and also antimicrobial yet didnt rx me. Thats fine I will

get rx someplace else. Then I go to the store and this one milk said it came

from a cow that was not given antibiotics. Ugh. So I guess I am on my own when I

begin the protocol soon. As far as doctors anyway, I

have you guys :)

lynneandsantos <lynneandsantos@...> wrote: OH OH I am in trouble ...a

writer and a teacher,YIKES. I never learned

English so forgive my mistakes. Lynne

smoosh215 wrote:

> Dodo,

>

> I like the name too. I have lots of nick names like smoosh in my

> screen name. That evolved from Mish to Mush to Smoosh and even

> Smooshy sometimes. My older sister only calls me smoosh - you can

> imagine the looks when we're out in public. I always thought your

> posts were so well-written. I should've known you were a writer. I

> used to teach writing to 3rd, 4th, & 5th graders before I had my

> kids and went on leave.

>

> I'm fortunate enough to have a great natual food store right down

> the road. I shop there a lot lately and they seem to have

> everything. I'm sure I'll find what I need there.

>

> Congrats with your PCP being so receptive and good luck with the

> book. I'd love to help out any way I can.

>

> Take care,

> Michou

>

>

> > >

> > > > Just wanted to say thanks to Dolores and Lynn for the input. I

> > have

> > > > noticed such a difference since the celiac diagnosis and

> dietary

> > > > changes. My skin has cleared up almost completely and my dry,

> > cracked

> > > > fingers are about 80% better. My energy has increased

> > tremendously as

> > > > well. I still have joint pain and nodules but the swelling has

> > gone

> > > > down some in my fingers and wrists.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks to all for all your help and concern.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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I went to a rheumy - one time only - when he said 60%

of his patients are cured by the placebo effect, that

AP was a hoxe. After my words with him, he offered to

refund his office visit money and cancel the blood

tests he already drew blood for. He knew he was wrong

about AP, but the drug companies are paying him too

well to contradict them, so he said.

--- Vicki <genuinelysweet2002@...> wrote:

> The rheumatologist said that long term antibiotics

> ONLY works in Lyme NOT Sjogrens and anyone that has

> gotten better with any rheumatic conditions only got

> better because of the placebo affect not because of

> the antibiotics. And that long term antibiotics

> cause problems. The thinking was that if it took

> years to get better it was something else. She said

> if I tried anything it should be Plaquenil although

> the other rheumies said it does NOT work for the

> dryness just joint pain.And before she didnt offer

> it to me. Ugh. It was so frustrating to hear. How

> can doctors not know the benefits of long term

> antibiotics? She said they have an anti inflammatory

> affect and also antimicrobial yet didnt rx me. Thats

> fine I will get rx someplace else. Then I go to the

> store and this one milk said it came from a cow that

> was not given antibiotics. Ugh. So I guess I am on

> my own when I begin the protocol soon. As far as

> doctors anyway, I have you guys :)

>

> lynneandsantos <lynneandsantos@...> wrote:

> OH OH I am in trouble ...a writer and a

> teacher,YIKES. I never learned

> English so forgive my mistakes. Lynne

>

> smoosh215 wrote:

>

> > Dodo,

> >

> > I like the name too. I have lots of nick names

> like smoosh in my

> > screen name. That evolved from Mish to Mush to

> Smoosh and even

> > Smooshy sometimes. My older sister only calls me

> smoosh - you can

> > imagine the looks when we're out in public. I

> always thought your

> > posts were so well-written. I should've known you

> were a writer. I

> > used to teach writing to 3rd, 4th, & 5th graders

> before I had my

> > kids and went on leave.

> >

> > I'm fortunate enough to have a great natual food

> store right down

> > the road. I shop there a lot lately and they seem

> to have

> > everything. I'm sure I'll find what I need there.

> >

> > Congrats with your PCP being so receptive and good

> luck with the

> > book. I'd love to help out any way I can.

> >

> > Take care,

> > Michou

> >

> >

> > > Lynne,

> > >

> > > You are just plethera of information!!!! So

> Tri-salts and jojoba

> > > can be purchased at the grocery store? Any

> particular

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Hello, This is Dolores and maybe this will explain and untangle the

mystery. Our immune systems are in place to kill off invading bacteria and

viruses. We get these Rheumatoid type diseases like Lupus, Scleroderma, R/A,

Sarcoidosis Ankylosing Sponylitis, etc: which cause inflammation, pain and

debilitates us. The old school of Rheumy's were taught to give medications that

suppress the immune response in our systems, so that we initially feel better.

But we continue to get sicker and eventually die from the complications of the

drugs. The new school, and very few doctors have learned or accepted this yet,

is that these diseases are caused by a slow growing type of minimicrobe called

micoplasma, of which there are many kinds, and most people have been exposed to

them w/o getting sick. It is only when an overabundance of them have

accumulated in the body that we become sick. And the reason is that our immune

system, which is a built in mechanism to fight off bacteria

and viruses, has become overwhelmed and can no longer function. This is called

a TH 1 disease. When I got sick with Scleroderma, my group of Rheumatologists

told me I was terminal and that they could only treat the symptoms with these

Immune suppressants. They offered me humira, remicade, thalidomide, steroids,

plaquenil and such. But they also were up front and told me that my lungs had

maybe two or three years before I would succumb and die. Well, I refused to

suppress my Immune system and did my own research. Here's what I read:

Micoplasmas are the cause of these type of diseases. That is called " The

Infectious Theory. " There have been successful trials where people have, not

only gotten better, but have gone into remission by using antibiotics. This is

called " Antibiotic Protocol " now called A/P for short. My thought was that if I

was going to die anyway, I may as well try it. I didn't know exactly how it

worked at that time, but I started on Minocin 100mg

twice a day in January of 2006. Exactly 18 months later this past May, I went

into remission. I am still on the Minocin and feeling great. My doctor who

told me I would die, is totally amazed. My symptoms have even regressed and my

lungs are fine. What I found out along the way because I am still researching

the field is that antibiotics do not kill the micoplasmas, they are first an

antiinflammatory and second they only weaken the micoplasma, not kill them. It

is the immune system becoming stronger that starts to work again that kills

them. Meanwhile, I began working on enhancing or boosting my immune system and

that's another whole subject. I am now at a point where my micoplasma count is

tolerable and my immune system is doing it's work properly and I am feeling very

well. However, I am not cured and that is my next project. In the fall, I plan

on going up the ladder one more notch and start another protocol called the

Marshall Protocol or M/P. This is a 3

phase protocol which is still part of the A/P, only a bit more intense and uses

more antibiotics and a blood pressure lowering drug which has shown to be more

effective in weakening the micoplasma. This protocol must be monitored by an

M.D. who understands the cause and effect of the disease process and is willing

to take the time to study it and speak with Trevor Marshall himself, the

inventor of the protocol. Now a note on micoplasmas. They are very slow

growing and very slow dying. They are nasty when being attacked by the immune

system. When they die, they emit a toxin. This is called a herx. It makes us

very ill and can even be dangerous in the hands of the wrong doctor. We are

fooled into thinking that the process is not working when actually we are

getting better. I am in the process of assembling a team of doctors. This

disease has taken out a big chunk of my time and energy, but it has been worth

it. I will be 71 next month. Longevity runs in my

family. My mom is 93 and doing fine. My dad died at 90 from emphysema because

he smoked all his life. My great grandmother passed in her sleep at 107, so I

am not going to break the chain. When I am done with all this, I am writing a

book with the help of my doctors, a friend with a science background who helped

me amass the information and all the wonderful people I have met along the way

who are volunteering their stories. My husband and I work with several

foundations who are excited about the project. I am already a published author,

but have never taken on a project of this magnitude. Please keep me in your

prayers. I hope you all get well. The world needs to know that there is hope.

For those of you who are suffering, I Know! I am one of you. Been there! We

have you in our hearts and wish you well.. You are the reason I am writing the

book. By the way, I am a retired nurse. I used to make placebos. A gel

capsule with a bit of sugar in them. Don't

be fooled. Maybe your mind can fool you into getting better, but your body

will be able to differentiate. We gave these out instead of pain pills at

night. Most people relaxed themselves thinking they had a pain pill and fell

asleep on their own. Aaaaah! such is the power of the mind. Good luck to all

of you.

Carolyn Brownlee <carolynbrownlee@...> wrote: I went to a rheumy

- one time only - when he said 60%

of his patients are cured by the placebo effect, that

AP was a hoxe. After my words with him, he offered to

refund his office visit money and cancel the blood

tests he already drew blood for. He knew he was wrong

about AP, but the drug companies are paying him too

well to contradict them, so he said.

--- Vicki <genuinelysweet2002@...> wrote:

> The rheumatologist said that long term antibiotics

> ONLY works in Lyme NOT Sjogrens and anyone that has

> gotten better with any rheumatic conditions only got

> better because of the placebo affect not because of

> the antibiotics. And that long term antibiotics

> cause problems. The thinking was that if it took

> years to get better it was something else. She said

> if I tried anything it should be Plaquenil although

> the other rheumies said it does NOT work for the

> dryness just joint pain.And before she didnt offer

> it to me. Ugh. It was so frustrating to hear. How

> can doctors not know the benefits of long term

> antibiotics? She said they have an anti inflammatory

> affect and also antimicrobial yet didnt rx me. Thats

> fine I will get rx someplace else. Then I go to the

> store and this one milk said it came from a cow that

> was not given antibiotics. Ugh. So I guess I am on

> my own when I begin the protocol soon. As far as

> doctors anyway, I have you guys :)

>

> lynneandsantos <lynneandsantos@...> wrote:

> OH OH I am in trouble ...a writer and a

> teacher,YIKES. I never learned

> English so forgive my mistakes. Lynne

>

> smoosh215 wrote:

>

> > Dodo,

> >

> > I like the name too. I have lots of nick names

> like smoosh in my

> > screen name. That evolved from Mish to Mush to

> Smoosh and even

> > Smooshy sometimes. My older sister only calls me

> smoosh - you can

> > imagine the looks when we're out in public. I

> always thought your

> > posts were so well-written. I should've known you

> were a writer. I

> > used to teach writing to 3rd, 4th, & 5th graders

> before I had my

> > kids and went on leave.

> >

> > I'm fortunate enough to have a great natual food

> store right down

> > the road. I shop there a lot lately and they seem

> to have

> > everything. I'm sure I'll find what I need there.

> >

> > Congrats with your PCP being so receptive and good

> luck with the

> > book. I'd love to help out any way I can.

> >

> > Take care,

> > Michou

> >

> >

> > > Lynne,

> > >

> > > You are just plethera of information!!!! So

> Tri-salts and jojoba

> > > can be purchased at the grocery store? Any

> particular

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Hi ,

A gal named Crystal maintains a list by location of physicians who prescribe LDN

and of pharmacies that compound it. You can contact her at

crystalangel6771@...

If that doesn't work out, you can buy 50 mg Naltrexone without a prescription

tablets here:

http://tinyurl.com/2vfdw5

and convert them to LDN using the instructions here:

http://tinyurl.com/3alm3y

With best wishes,

Dudley

[low dose naltrexone] Doctors

Looking for doctor to persribe naltrexone in SE Wisconsin or nothern

Illinois. Thank you.....

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Doctors who prescribe LDN and do telephone consultations:

Dr. Sullivan

1001 S. Market St.

Ste. B

Mechanicsburg, PA 17055

(717) 697-5050

www.ACAM.org

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>

> I want to use LDN for autoimmune, could anyone tell me of a doctor

in

> Gerogia or south that could prescribe or a doctor that will do phone

> consultations?

>

>

>

> Thanks so much

>

>

>

> Laurie

>

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